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Previously on Queen of the con con

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artist Danielle Miller, who flaunted

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lavish lifestyle, facing

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new reality and needs a roommate.

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The New York Post runs a story that

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Danielle's roommate Julia Cornell, is

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looking for someone to trade places with her,

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and Danielle confirms the story, saying

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publicly, quote this little nineteen

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year old girl who rented the room from us

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for one month that decided to tell us she

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wanted to move out. I don't even want to say

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her name, because she's like, she's like from Pensacola,

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Florida, and like just came to New York

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to be an actress. But those who know

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her say rooming with Danielle

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Miller is fraught with peril. It

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was a year the place that she's staying in. Are

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you insane? You've been exposing

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our friends to this woman. I actually

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tracked down another former roommate of

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Danielle Miller's from her Los Angeles

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days was paying her like a thousand dollars

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in mine and it was all a scam.

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How crazy would it be if you find out she's doing

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that to ten different young women like

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yourself, Like she's got ten apartments, sharing

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with all of them, and they're giving her a thousand dollars

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a month and she's not really paying the rent and she's

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just waiting to get a victim. And while

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Danielle is pulling this rent scam

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in l A, she's working for the Beverly

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Hills Chamber of Commerce pulling yet

1:17

another scam. So I'd go into

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her room. I found a huge

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sheet of paper of people

1:23

that she worked with, with all of their bank account

1:26

information and all of the name Basically

1:28

anywhere she's worked, she's stole pupil's information.

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And that's just the beginning. So

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she's using a stolen credit card

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on your Uber account and then used

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you to book rides for her. Yeah,

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you're a lucky police didn't show

1:44

up at your door, I know. But

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Danielle's roommate is about to learn

1:49

just how far this rabbit hole goes.

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And yet another sinister move, Danielle

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tricks her roommate into taking the fall

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for a check fraud scheme, and set

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Lee Taylor Fergus is named

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as a co defendant in court proceedings.

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She did it in the middle of the night. She came up and woke

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me up from the middle of my sleep before I

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had to go to work, and she was like, here's here's

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the check, like sign it here recorded to take care of this. I'm

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Jonathan Walton and this is Queen

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of the con The

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Rich Girl, episode

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eight d Girl.

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We had a friend group, and I just don't understand,

2:47

Like, how am I the only one that got screwed

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over? I mean, obviously I moved in with her, so if there's that,

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but like, oh no, I guarantee you

2:54

if you hit up any one of those friends in that group,

2:56

they have a story, and I feel like I'm still in

2:58

contact enough with them that they be able to share it

3:00

with me. Well, let me let

3:03

me ask you this then, how many of them

3:05

have you told you found a list in her

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room with a dozen people with credit

3:09

card and bank numbers, just the

3:11

girl that was with me when I found it. So, I mean

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they could say the same thing, like, you

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know, like because nobody wants to share, like these

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are unpleasant, embarrassing

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things. Taylor Fercus was

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Danielle's roommate back in two thousand fourteen,

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and she was scammed out of thousands of dollars

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she was paying Danielle. She thought for

3:30

rent. We signed a year lease and

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we never made it a full year. I

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first discovered Taylor Fercus listed

3:37

in a lawsuit filed

3:39

in Los Angeles Superior Court, named

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as a co defendant along with daniel

3:44

Miller in a check fraud scheme. That

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lawsuit was filed by one of Danielle's

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childhood friends, Quentin smy

3:52

Brown. There was one night

3:55

when Danielle and I had already been living together,

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that we went to

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some club in Hollywood, and as

4:02

May was there with a few

4:04

of her other New York friend Quintin

4:06

as May Brown is a New York socialite

4:09

whose father was a big time real estate

4:11

developer. She was close with Danielle

4:13

as a teenager. She first made

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a name for herself as the former wife

4:17

of billionaire air PC Peterson

4:20

from that Bravo show NYC Prep.

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I can't feel like I can do something unless I'll be

4:25

the best at it. Tiffany

4:28

Trump was actually the flower girl

4:30

at their Vegas wedding. It was reportedly

4:33

a marriage based on friendship and

4:35

not romance, and it lasted about

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two years. She now lives a

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jet set lifestyle with her new husband

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and baby, and is involved with several

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charities. As far as Esmey's

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lawsuit goes, It's thirteen pages

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long and it details how

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Danielle Miller stole six checks

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from her, totaling twenty dollars,

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and it also alleges that Taylor and

4:59

Danielle stole another check for eight

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thousand dollars, but Taylor says

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that's just not true, and that

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Danielle actually used the threat

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of all those eviction notices she was

5:11

receiving to trick Taylor into

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putting her name on that check. We

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get a notice from the apartment and

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it said that we owed eight thousands

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odd dollars. And

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she tells me, She's like, esme actually

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owes Me some money. I'm just going to get

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it from her and then it'll cover our rent, Like just give

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me a few days. And she

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made up some excuse about like how

5:36

Esmey's family was like fighting with Danielle's

5:39

family and like it couldn't be known that

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Esmey was going to be giving Danielle this

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money. And so I said to Danielle,

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I was like, well, you can have Esmey make the

5:47

check out to me, and I'll immediately make it out to

5:49

you. I

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remember like writing on the back of the check, take the

5:54

order of Danielle Miller and signed it. If

5:56

anybody wanted to reopen this case, like that money

5:59

never went into my bank account, like it immediately.

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I signed the check immediately over to Danielle.

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I never went to as May's house. If she wanted to

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tell her that or whatever. I was never

6:08

a part of it. I would asleep. And

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I just believed her because she had said, you know, as

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me and I were like best friends growing up. She

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owes me money, and like, I just never really questioned

6:17

it. I never deposited that check into

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my bank account, like I never saw that money.

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It was never mine. It just immediately

6:24

then went to Danielle. And then fast

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forward that money that she ended up stealing.

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She didn't take that eight thousand and pay

6:31

rent. She took it for whatever

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else. Yeah, So I reached

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out to Quentin as May Brown, the

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woman who filed a lawsuit against Danielle

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and Taylor. We message each

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other back and forth on Instagram for almost

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two months. As May says she

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wants to maybe do an interview with me,

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so stay tuned when I message

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her saying she was wrong to include

6:53

Taylor in her lawsuit against Danielle

6:56

and explained to her what actually happened

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with that eight thousand dollar chet. She

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asked for Taylor's contact info to

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apologize. The court

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ultimately ruled in favor of Esmate

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and issued a judgment against Danielle

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and Taylor, but Taylor actually

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had nothing to do with that check fraud scheme.

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I knew when I read

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that lawsuit. I knew

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there was more to the story. Essentially

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in that lawsuit, you're named as like an accomplice

7:27

of Danielle, And as soon as I read

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your name, I'm like, I know this

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woman is getting scammed too. So

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I got served with law suit papers

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from you know, a p I somewhere, and

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I kind of just was like, you've

7:41

got to be kidding me, Like I wanted this chapter to be

7:43

over and back

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to the young dominaive. I just decided to

7:48

call the lawyer's office and asked,

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like, what is it about? Why am

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I getting this? Like what is Danielle doing about

7:55

it? Like I don't understand,

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And he just told me he was like,

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we can't find Danielle. And

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in my head, I'm just like, you've got to be freaking kidding me,

8:04

Like do some research and

8:06

serve this girl papers too, because I was under the impression

8:08

that like she hadn't even served yet. And

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so one of my good girlfriends

8:13

still in l A love her death, I

8:15

was telling her about this, and she was like, I'll

8:17

message her and try to see where she's at, and like I'll go get

8:19

drinks with her and like try to figure it out. So we

8:22

do our own like private again investigation

8:24

if you will find out where she's living. So

8:33

we do our own like private and investigation

8:35

if you will find out where she's living. And

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I call this lawyer office, say

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hey, this is where she's living. Please go

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serve her papers too, Like I'm not not

8:44

involved in this, and I don't think he care

8:46

because obviously he wasn't representing me. Because

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I didn't want to deal with it. I just I

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didn't go. I never showed up. I didn't look for a lawyer.

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Looking back on it, I probably should have. I

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guess. The thing that kind of like upsets me, I

8:58

guess is a little bit of like why didn't

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anybody did harder? And maybe it could have been because

9:02

I didn't show up. And that's on me because

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that's how the legal system works. If you don't

9:07

show up, it is your fault. So

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when I first got over the papers, I reached out to

9:12

her and I was like, hey, Danielle, like I'm

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just getting this, like what's going on with you? And esme blah

9:16

blah blah blah blah, and you know, she turns it into like

9:18

I'm sorry, like my dad will take care of it. Don't worry my

9:20

dad, my dad whatever. And so

9:24

that was probably another reason why I let it go, because for whatever

9:26

reason, I still decided to trust her. And I have no idea

9:28

why, because I just didn't want to deal with it, I think

9:30

anymore. At the time, Taylor

9:33

didn't realize that not showing up to

9:35

court after being served a lawsuit

9:37

usually ends up with a default judgment

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against you, and that's what happened

9:42

to Taylor. Her wages were actually

9:45

garners to pay for that fraudulent

9:47

eight thousand dollar check Danielle

9:49

Miller stole and successfully

9:51

framed Taylor for. I

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mean, at the end of the day, karma is

9:55

a bitch, and I hope that it comes and invites

9:58

her in the assid and I hope that she has to be in prison

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for a very long time for all of the

10:02

wrong that she has done in

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a beautifully ironic twist. As

10:08

my conversation with Taylor Fercus

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is winding down, thank you

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to care Sarah Sota. Courts

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are winding back up in the wake

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of Hurricane Ian and Part two

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of Danielle Miller's sentencing hearing

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is now scheduled for eleven am,

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October one

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afternoon. Last time we

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were here. A month ago, Danielle

10:36

pled no contest to one third

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degree felony for fraudulently using

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the identity of a victim named Erica

10:42

Beers. Remember, Danielle

10:44

was arrested at a Saracenor Chase Bank

10:47

drive through, sitting in a rented Jaguar

10:49

with her accomplice, Sierra Blast,

10:52

with Danielle pretending to be Erica

10:54

Beers trying to withdraw eight thousand

10:56

dollars in cash from her account. Judge

11:00

Thomas Krug was going to sentence her

11:02

for that crime crime. She already

11:04

played no contest too, but Danielle's

11:06

attorney kept interrupting, mistakenly

11:09

treating the sentencing hearing like a full

11:12

fledged trial. Jameson

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a lot of question, I'm

11:17

object to that, That's what I

11:20

want. Jane because I had nothing to do with my not

11:23

want to Daniel Miller. According

11:27

to attorney Darryl Mitchell, the Daniel

11:29

Miller sitting in court that day is not the

11:31

same Daniel Miller convicted in that New

11:33

York spot case. So the judge shouldn't

11:36

add that to her score sheet. And he

11:38

keeps insisting the six cell phones

11:40

found in the Jaguar Danielle was driving,

11:43

we're not hers.

11:47

Eventually, Sarah Soda Prosecutor Andrew

11:49

Van Sickle grew so frustrated

11:51

he asked the judge for continuance.

11:53

But if he's gonna stand there and object all

11:55

the time to this, knowing that you already the evidence,

11:58

they will spring in the audience and in that way.

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So here we are one month and

12:04

one hurricane later, and

12:06

Daniel Miller's attorney seems to have changed

12:09

his tune. It was a discussion

12:11

related to the score sheet. I think this is

12:13

the case where we gotta prosecute on the phone.

12:15

Is this that case? Okay?

12:20

So Mr Mitchell, I've been handed Actually

12:22

this is the score sheet, think ahead from last time? Is this

12:24

accurate? It's just now,

12:27

if I was that judge, I'd be thinking

12:29

to myself, you made such

12:31

a freaking stinct last time,

12:33

telling me the score sheet was wrong. She

12:36

wasn't convicted in that New York SPA case,

12:39

dragging this out a whole other month,

12:41

only to now say that same

12:43

score sheet is correct. I

12:46

would be so pissed at Daniel

12:48

Miller's attorney. But if

12:50

Judge Thomas Krug is annoyed

12:52

in any way, he's not showing

12:55

it alright, State, please call

12:57

it your first witness. It's Carlos Ordoni,

12:59

judge. Okay, Detective

13:01

for DONI makes his way to the stand dressed

13:04

in a dark suit, wearing an overstuffed

13:07

backpack, and carrying a thick

13:09

stack of files, all evidence

13:11

against Daniel Miller. Based

13:14

on her attorney's countless objections

13:16

last time. He's not taking any

13:18

chances. How many

13:21

cell phones are involved in this

13:23

case? We collected six cell phones,

13:25

Okay? Is there any evidence that

13:27

would attribute the seller

13:30

phones to being used by

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Daniel Miller. Yes, there's

13:34

photos, there's messages, context within

13:36

the messages, their selfies,

13:40

there's personal information. She identifies

13:42

herself in some of the text messages as Daniel

13:44

Miller, and also the user accounts

13:46

on the phone. Her own email and stuff

13:49

is on as the owner of the phone. The prosecutor

13:51

then hands the detective a piece of paper

13:54

and asks what is that?

13:57

That is the extraction report from the phone?

13:59

Another to all the user accounts, there's twenty

14:01

seven. Is there anything unusual

14:03

with that? Unusual? Yes,

14:05

because normally you don't have that many user accounts

14:08

on one phone. It's usually the person that owns the phone.

14:10

So unjust one of those six

14:13

cell phones recovered from the Jaguar

14:15

Danielle was driving, it had twenty

14:17

seven different user profiles on it. But

14:20

we're twenty seven different people using

14:22

that phone, not at all. We

14:25

know that one of the users was Daniel

14:27

Miller herself, and the other profiles

14:30

belonged to the identities she stole

14:32

and then sim swapped those victims

14:34

cell phone numbers to that phone victims

14:37

like Erica Beers. Are any

14:39

of these profiles found to

14:41

be related directly to Erica

14:44

Beers? Yes, I

14:46

remember twenty two has miss

14:48

Beers as one of the profiles

14:50

in this phone, the phone number

14:52

itself. Okay, that's

14:55

an important distinction because technically

14:58

this sentencing hearing is only about

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the theft of Erica Beer's identity.

15:03

Even though Daniel Miller has allegedly

15:06

stolen hundreds of others. There's

15:08

so many crimes going through this phone, but

15:11

the moment any of those get brought up by

15:13

the detective, her attorney interrupts

15:16

objection again. A way

15:18

of dealing with this one charge

15:20

is one case. Miss miss

15:23

beers as the bid, and

15:25

the judge actually agrees

15:27

with Daniel Miller's attorney. Let

15:30

me explain myself any

15:32

criminal activity that is pending,

15:35

it would be inappropriate for me to consider

15:37

that because it's still pending.

15:41

I think what I learned is that there's a case you

15:43

have right. That

15:46

case is a first degree felony for

15:48

the fraudulent use of ideas of between

15:50

twenty and thirty people. It's

15:52

a completely separate Sarah Sota case than

15:55

this one, even though it's based

15:57

on all the additional identities discovered

15:59

on Dan yells multiple cell phones

16:02

after her Chase Bank arrest, and

16:05

MS Miller is entered to plea of not guilty,

16:08

and that case needs to be resolved

16:10

by plea or a jury

16:12

trial right determining whether or not

16:14

she's guilty, it would be impermissible

16:16

for me to consider an act

16:19

that she's accused of that has yet

16:21

to be determined that process

16:23

needs to take its course. It would

16:25

be improper for me to consider it. There's

16:27

a distinct difference between

16:29

a prior bad act, which is permissible

16:32

and sentencing, versus

16:35

contemporary is bad act that's

16:37

pending and subject to litigation.

16:40

There's two those are very different.

16:42

I understand the difficult position

16:45

that puts you in because it seems like you're

16:47

telling me that they're connected in many ways.

16:50

But I've ruled the way of rules. I

16:52

agree with you completely, and

16:54

now things take a really interesting

16:56

turn. Last time the detective

16:58

was on the stand, he speaking from memory

17:01

about all the incriminating messages. He uncovered

17:04

that Danielle was sending from multiple

17:06

cell phones. After all, it was

17:08

a sentencing hearing, and he didn't think he needed

17:10

to bring the actual cell phones into

17:13

court. But today both

17:15

he and the prosecutor did

17:17

bring all the cell phones in and

17:20

they also brought printouts of hundreds

17:22

of messages from those phones, and

17:25

page by page they get placed

17:27

on an overhead projector for the

17:29

entire court to see. So

17:32

this is a specific thread within the

17:34

messages of cell phone number or

17:36

item number twenty three, and this conversation

17:39

is happening between someone named Trey

17:41

D Girl and JPS mode.

17:45

D Girl is Daniel Miller, which

17:47

is established based on the preponderance

17:49

of selfies and the number of times

17:52

D Girl actually identifies herself

17:54

as Daniel Miller, but her

17:56

attorney still disputes that. But

17:59

D Girl girl could be the other girl,

18:02

right, Sierra Blast. Isn't that right? Not

18:04

when the girl says to me Daniel Miller

18:09

Anyway. The other guys messaging

18:11

with Danielle are scammers who go

18:13

by the handles Trey and JB.

18:15

Smooth. We hired actors

18:17

to read verbatim some of these text messages

18:20

that were read aloud in court. Danielle

18:23

starts off with this one to Trey,

18:25

a scammer she recently meets on

18:27

telegram. I'm really picky and I hate

18:29

saying this ship because, like, if you take it the wrong way,

18:31

I sound like a bit and I'm really not. I'm

18:33

just really good at what I do. So here it goes.

18:36

Everyone wants to work with me, and I have no problem

18:38

telling someone I'm good, but I like your vibe. So

18:40

far, let's get rich. Everyone

18:49

wants to work with me, and I have no problem telling someone

18:51

I'm good, but I like your vibe so far, let's

18:54

get rich. This notion that

18:56

everyone wants to quote work with her is

18:58

something Danielle repeats in that New York

19:00

Magazine article too. In fact, one

19:03

of the red flags I've noticed and pretty much

19:05

all con artists say, is they all

19:07

like to tell you how great they are, so

19:10

scammer. Trey is impressed,

19:12

and he responds, damn, that's

19:15

as real as it gets. I definitely appreciate

19:17

the opportunity Chase debit plus

19:19

pain female

19:22

New York balance four K on five

19:25

one detective or DONI explains,

19:28

so that would be a Chase account

19:30

with a pin Chase debit account

19:33

for a female out in New York

19:35

with a balance of four thousand. Whence

19:37

the last time the balance was checked five

19:39

one was wrong. I'm fine, it's

19:42

fine. I just feel like I'm super clear

19:44

and exactly what I need and what I don't need and

19:46

what I don't want, And when I get surprised

19:48

with something I don't want, I'm tight, like I

19:50

don't funk with Sprint. I don't know how

19:52

many more times I have to tell someone that, And the fact

19:54

that I just got surprised with Sprint by pulling

19:57

up to a sprint, got me tight? Then the number

19:59

is in the ladies her. Hello,

20:01

I cracked myself up. I'm like, why am I

20:03

tight? I already made g's today.

20:06

I had a dope week. I just

20:08

got an account with seventy in it and

20:10

I want all of it. My goal is to make

20:12

at least twenty g's a day, so that I make at least

20:14

six and eighty thousand by January one.

20:18

Keep in mind this message was sent

20:20

in May, so over the following

20:22

seven months, Danielle was planning

20:25

to steal another six hundred

20:27

and eighty thousand dollars from people's bank

20:29

accounts. Further down in the chain,

20:32

Tray messages, what are

20:34

you up to? Just finished robbing

20:36

another bank? Do you know where I can get another

20:38

unlocked iPhone? Out there? All these places

20:40

think I'm a cop. I'm too white and innocent.

20:42

Hello L. And then later Danielle

20:45

messages Trey Boo, when

20:47

you get those blanks? I need you to make me one for every

20:49

important project. Please what

20:52

I mean what? You need a secondary

20:55

whenever you get your stuff? See and I just almost

20:57

bought a bit. But she wasn't getting out of the car out

21:01

So when she's asking for the blanks.

21:03

She's asking for those specific blank cards that can

21:05

be ordered to make credit cards out of. They

21:07

put them under a printer and they can purnt out

21:09

whatever bank they want on the card. As

21:12

you can imagine, these eye opening

21:14

messages from Danielle's cell phone being

21:16

read aloud in court are not sitting

21:19

well with her attorney objection

21:22

all of them.

21:24

This is a fraud case, Mr Mitchell.

21:26

The issue is whether what your

21:29

client pled to was having

21:31

the I D and a fraudulent transaction

21:34

at a bank here in Sarah Soda right.

21:37

So, I think anything related to fraudulent

21:39

transactions I D s, trying

21:41

to fake an I D, having

21:43

documents of other folks, I think that's relevant

21:47

to what the sentencing is here today.

21:50

And what's really hurting daniel Miller's case

21:52

right now is that it didn't have to be this way.

21:55

These highly incriminating messages being

21:57

read aloud in court, some of them even

21:59

have Danielle dropping the N word

22:01

a couple of times, didn't have to happen.

22:04

But her attorney made such a fuss last

22:06

time, calling into question who

22:08

owned the cell phones. He doesn't see the cell phones

22:10

in court? How do they know it was his

22:13

client who sent those messages that

22:15

he forced the prosecutor to not

22:17

only bring in all the cell phones, but

22:20

to print out and read all these

22:22

really incriminating messages in front of the judge

22:24

and prove they were unequivocally

22:27

sent by his client. Danielle

22:29

Miller messages like, Hey,

22:32

how do I learn how to SIM swap in port

22:35

lines without having to go inside in the

22:37

store. I go into the stores and

22:39

I want to learn how to not so

22:41

normally, if someone goes into a

22:43

store to do a SIM swap. Let's say

22:45

my phone breaks and I have my old phone

22:48

still with me. I could take

22:50

the same card from one phone that's broken

22:52

and have it swapped to the other phone, so we'll continue

22:55

to work, okay, But to do that I

22:57

have to go into the store so they can take

22:59

it from one phone to the other. In

23:02

this particular question, she's asking, is there

23:04

a way to do that without having to go in

23:06

the store, making it easier to take

23:08

over somebody's account. The next

23:10

message has daniel Miller bragging

23:12

about her SIM swapping abilities.

23:15

I take over about three to four lines a day,

23:18

every day, no problem.

23:23

She conducts three to four swim stops a day

23:26

every day. Also, opening

23:28

up cards with Pros and Dillards in Florida

23:30

is hitting right now, Okay,

23:33

so Pros will be the profiles. Basically,

23:35

they take people's information that's stolen and then

23:37

they use it to open up a profile at Dillards

23:40

to obtain a credit line and make

23:42

orders. That's

23:44

not relevant to this case. Now,

23:48

I'm not an attorney. I'm just a guy

23:51

more familiar than most lay people with

23:53

the criminal justice system, having had

23:55

to bust my hump for two and a half

23:57

years to bring my con artist to justice.

24:00

But normally, when someone pleads

24:02

guilty or in this case, no contest

24:04

to a crime, there's a certain level

24:07

of humility to them. The

24:09

perpetrator usually tucks their tail

24:11

between their legs, admist they were

24:13

wrong, and begs the court for mercy.

24:16

But Danielle, through her attorney,

24:19

seems really defiant, strident.

24:22

Even there's not one thing

24:24

her attorney says or does this

24:27

entire time that gives me the impression

24:30

she's sorry for someone

24:32

pleading no contest. Her

24:34

attorney sure is contesting

24:36

a lot. Can anybody

24:38

get an online poem and not use it for criminal

24:41

purposes? But

24:44

you imply that the phones that put

24:46

potentially belong to my client.

24:49

We're used for criminal purposes.

24:52

I'm sorry I didn't imply that she was using

24:54

it. I'm stating she used it for

24:57

illegal purposes. But anybody

24:59

can get an law home that's correct, correct,

25:01

all right. The other thing that,

25:04

in my opinion, really hurts daniel

25:06

Miller's case here, and it's identical

25:08

to what happened in court to the Irish Herriffs in

25:10

season one and the o C Savior in

25:12

season two, is that not

25:14

one of Danielle's friends

25:16

or family members are getting up

25:19

on that stand and testifying about

25:21

what a good person she is and how

25:23

she deserves leniency. Not

25:26

one, and their absence speaks

25:29

volumes because it tells the judge

25:31

all the people who really know her

25:34

won't lift a finger to keep her out in

25:36

sail. The only two people

25:38

who do agree to speak up for Danielle are

25:41

her bail bondsman. She's been pretty

25:43

much on point what everything I've asked her to do

25:45

as far as checking in, and the person

25:47

in charge of her supervised release

25:52

compliant with the program.

25:55

As this sentencing hearing starts circling

25:57

the drain the mood in the courtroom,

26:00

shifts. Everyone's getting

26:02

really antsy. I mean it's

26:04

gone on now for almost six

26:06

hours. And then finally

26:09

the judge asked the prosecutor to get

26:11

down to brass tacks sentencing.

26:15

What's the States seeking it more? Five

26:17

years? And the reason is fairly

26:19

simple, Judge, if you take a

26:21

look at what actually happened in this case,

26:24

what did it take for her to know

26:27

how to get those ideas, who

26:29

to know in order to get the credit card?

26:32

What kind of gumption did it take

26:34

to go through a drive through with

26:36

these people's information to take the money.

26:39

Well, she is, by her own

26:41

words, a professional, and

26:43

she's done it for ever and ever.

26:46

She has an essence, gotten

26:49

caught before in New York,

26:52

served a one year time, got

26:54

out, and within months of getting

26:56

out with zero deterrence, goes

26:59

back to doing it again. The state

27:01

recognizes that this court has got to do

27:04

a balancing what is fair And no

27:06

one used a firearm, But in protection

27:08

of society as a whole, this

27:10

person is dangerous. This person

27:13

is more dangerous with a cell

27:15

phone than anybody I know with a firearm

27:18

because of the fact of how much money

27:20

she could take. It's a complete

27:22

lack of a moral code to

27:25

sit there and say, my goal is to

27:27

get six thousand dollars.

27:29

This person is a danger. It's five

27:31

years for the state. Prison is the only

27:33

thing that could possibly protect us

27:35

here in Sarasota County. Wow,

27:38

five years, that's a lot

27:40

for a case like this. I can't

27:42

get a read on the judge. He's got

27:45

one hell of a poker face. As

27:47

for Danielle's attorney, his closing

27:49

argument makes a lot of salient points

27:52

whether or not this case

27:55

involved all the intricacies

27:58

and all the complexities and all

28:00

the sophistication that

28:02

they spoke about a

28:04

Roses Roses rose. If

28:06

a drone went into a grocery store

28:08

and stole a candy bar, that's

28:11

petty debt. If a person

28:13

individually goes in that grocery store and

28:15

stills that saying candy

28:18

bar, it's still petty theft. No

28:20

matter what happens, it's still you got

28:23

to be treated the same way as

28:25

a petty theft. Now, in

28:27

this particular case, my

28:30

client, as everyone

28:32

knows, scores twenty five points. He doesn't

28:34

score jail time. He's referring

28:36

to the score sheet ranking Danielle's past

28:39

crimes, and he's right, she doesn't

28:41

score high enough for jail time. It

28:43

is entirely possible the judge

28:45

could let daniel off today with probation,

28:49

a slap on the rest. It's the

28:51

fraudulent use of personal

28:53

identification information of

28:55

one case, one victim.

28:58

My client has played open to this court

29:01

and is asking for

29:03

probation or adjudication and extended

29:06

probation. That's sniffling. You're

29:08

hearing. Is Danielle standing beside

29:10

her attorney now seeming to fight

29:12

back tears. A lot of what

29:14

you heard was involving

29:18

the other case. The number

29:20

one culprit in this was Sierra Blast,

29:22

who they still have not found our cart. They

29:25

don't know where she is. She

29:27

was the one who got the information. My client

29:30

has informed me she did not purchase any

29:32

of those profiles. That was all Serial Blast.

29:34

It was her operation. She's the number

29:36

one person, she's the number one experienced

29:40

person in this whole thing. The only reason

29:42

that the state is not going after her they

29:44

can't find her. My client has

29:46

presented herself, she's made herself

29:49

present, she's appealed to the court.

29:52

She has helped the federal government,

29:54

she has helped the state in Miami

29:57

with information about this scheme

29:59

of this calling. But as

30:01

it pertains to this particular

30:03

case, Judge, she scores

30:06

no jail time. I think the case

30:08

should be treated as any other case.

30:11

But I just don't understand how it could be treated

30:14

as any other case. If you recall how

30:16

emphatically Danielle insists

30:18

she's really Erica Beers in that

30:21

five hour Sarasota County Sheriff's

30:23

Office interrogation video. Again,

30:26

and this is like time. Sorry,

30:29

I'm here confidently

30:32

spitting out Erica Beer's personal

30:34

identification information as

30:37

if it's her own. What about March?

30:41

Where is your current endres it? And

30:44

what's a good one for three?

30:48

Okay, I'm

30:51

sure Prosecutor Andrew Van Sickle

30:53

watched this entire video, and

30:56

that must be one of the reasons he's asking for the

30:58

maximum five years in Florida

31:00

State prison. Obviously, though

31:02

Danielle's attorney disagrees, I

31:06

understand Mr. Ven Sickle's

31:08

emotional involvement in

31:10

the case. My client, as

31:13

he depicts her, is not that person. She's

31:16

just not that person, and

31:18

if she was, she isn't any longer. I

31:21

do believe that she has learned a great deal

31:23

as a result of this, and I'm asking the court

31:26

two provides my client

31:29

a penalty that's commensurate

31:32

with her sentencing sheet and

31:34

this particular single charge

31:37

against this single individual. Thank

31:40

you. I am wondering how

31:42

the judge is perceiving all this. Of

31:44

course, there is one person left

31:47

who has yet to speak, but who

31:49

could really move the needle in the sentencing

31:51

hearing, and that's Danielle

31:53

herself. I

31:56

just have a couple of clarifications before I say

31:58

my statement. Is before that, I had prepared

32:01

Buckle up, kids, things are about

32:03

to go sideways. The year

32:06

in Riker's Island it's called a

32:08

city year, which is actually eight months,

32:11

so that's not prison time in the state of New

32:13

York. Next

32:19

time, on Queen of the Con Danielle

32:22

pulls out all the stops to save

32:24

her own hide. When I was thirteen

32:27

years old, I went through traumatic

32:29

experience as a victim of child pornography

32:32

that scarred me for the

32:34

rest of my life. And shockingly, under

32:36

Florida law, Danielle doesn't actually

32:39

qualify for prison time, so she

32:41

could walk away from yet another

32:44

scam. She would saying something about the probation

32:47

or fine, and she was like, yeah, that's

32:49

all this is gonna amount to you like bringing on. A

32:58

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33:00

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