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spoilers ahead.

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In the last

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couple of years, I kinda got hair up in my ass

1:04

to try and find good Jeffries.

1:07

As a Jeffery myself, I've

1:09

become acutely aware of all of this

1:11

shitty Jefferies. And I hate

1:13

that. Jeffrey Epstein, child

1:16

sex ring operator, Jeff skilled

1:18

in Ron Fraudster, Jeffrey

1:21

Dahmer Yikes, Jeffrey

1:23

Tambor, patriarchal actor

1:26

Dickhead, TubeBim, Zoom

1:28

meeting master bader. So

1:30

where are the good Jefferies? I

1:32

did a little bit of research and I found a

1:34

couple. There's Jeffrey Wright,

1:36

character actor who first came to my

1:38

consciousness playing Belize in angels in America

1:41

on Broadway, Jeffrey Dean Morgan,

1:43

another fantastic actor from Watchmen

1:45

and The Walking Dead. There's also the

1:47

brilliant R and B singer, Jeffrey Osborne,

1:50

best known for the lovely if a little

1:52

corny hit, on the wings of love.

1:55

And there are tons of people with

1:57

the birth name, Jeffrey, but they don't go

1:59

by that. So like j j Abrams is a

2:01

Jeffrey. Jeff Buck is a Jeffrey,

2:03

jaw rule, is a Jeffrey to name a few,

2:06

but I've left them out. I'm looking for good

2:08

quality Jeffrey's JEFFREY

2:11

The way I spell my name, we need more

2:13

solid Jeffrey representation out

2:15

there. Well, this week,

2:17

found another talented and seemingly

2:19

unproblematic Jeffrey. Jeffrey

2:21

Jones, star of the nineteen eighty

2:23

five cult classic reanimator, which

2:26

I had never seen this movie until we did this

2:28

episode. And Jeffrey Combs looking him

2:30

up has had a long career in horror

2:32

films with a particular bent toward lovecraft.

2:35

based horror films. His character

2:37

of Herbert West isn't a likable guy

2:40

in this movie, but that seems to be what

2:42

makes Jeffrey Combs so excellent at

2:44

his job. he gives Herbert an arrogance

2:46

and a swagger, yet a wispy dorkiness

2:49

that's satisfying and compelling. He

2:51

knows the movie he's in, which is

2:53

a darkly funny Schlock Fest.

2:55

He relishes the one liners and performs

2:57

quite sincerely with severed heads

3:00

and naked zombies. So

3:02

I am happy to add Jeffrey Combs

3:04

to my pantheon of good Jefferies.

3:07

Hi, Jeffrey. Are there any real life

3:10

that you like or admire? Are

3:12

there are there real c's anymore? That's

3:14

a real good question. I didn't even actually,

3:16

like, do my own look or the let

3:18

let's see list of famous

3:22

So there's okay. So there's CECL beaten.

3:25

beaten famous photographer Audrey

3:27

Hepburn, you know, I think photographer

3:30

for the Queen and the Hollywood, Seth

3:33

will be the mill. Seth will be the mill. It's another

3:35

a lot of them are which is

3:37

a hard point because it's not exactly

3:40

your name. Sure. Because CECL

3:42

is the American version, CECL is the

3:44

British version. CECL

3:48

CECL Fields.

3:50

So I wanna say there's a baseball No.

3:52

There's a CECL fielding. is a baseball

3:54

player. He's a baseball player. There's also

3:56

a famous jazz musician,

3:58

CECL something. Oh,

4:00

interesting. I think Mike is either still

4:03

working or is often cited.

4:06

Mhmm.

4:07

the

4:08

I think there's, like,

4:10

Japanese female

4:13

clothing brand named

4:16

CECL and maybe a

4:18

Polish this fell off a truck

4:20

and you can buy it at our

4:22

CECL stores. That's

4:26

all I got. You have a very unique

4:28

name. That's the table from this. It's

4:30

very nice. It is the perfect

4:32

balance of unique in

4:34

that there aren't a lot of other ceciles

4:36

out there. but well known enough

4:38

to where people mostly

4:41

or partially get your name right when

4:43

meeting you for the first time. It's yeah.

4:45

It's not a made up name. I'd like to

4:47

think of it as antique. It's

4:49

like it's like an ethyl or

4:52

a hazel. Oh, yeah. You

4:54

know, like, it had its heyday. Like, when I

4:56

was at school in England, well, when

4:58

I just introduced myself as CECL to

5:00

just save myself the heartache of having to be c

5:03

sold, not so sold, not that whole Liza with a z, not

5:05

Liza with ANS because Liza with a s,

5:07

not that whole thing. But I would

5:09

introduce myself as Cecil and they'd be like, oh,

5:11

I had an uncle named

5:13

Cecil, but he's dead.

5:16

was, like, legit like,

5:18

every single person said that

5:20

because it was of an era. Like, I wanna say

5:22

there was a a prime minister, something

5:24

something settle in the, like,

5:26

twenties -- Okay. -- teens. So

5:29

a very antique name. Yeah.

5:31

It's a good one. I like that name. It's it

5:34

sounds tangent

5:36

to nobility, almost. Yes.

5:38

I think it's the britishness of the

5:40

sea salt. Britishness. It's also I mean, it

5:42

has deep deep roots in the American South. like,

5:44

you'll find a lot of African American

5:46

CECLs -- Mhmm. -- like, quite a lot.

5:48

And, I mean, you know, the the part

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of my family that goes back that I got

5:52

my name from, I mean, I'm probably

5:54

related to an absolute monster, but

5:57

it is that American south

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kind of roots Georgia,

6:02

Louisiana kind of thing. All those old British

6:04

roots. Yeah. Of course. Yep. Well,

6:07

we saw a less than,

6:09

like, a very good movie, but, like,

6:11

less than, like, high teen nobility

6:13

type of film. What?

6:17

I think this movie has everything in

6:19

the world. This was this was

6:21

possible. Lawrence of Arabia. What?

6:24

What? This is not charity to fire.

6:26

I have never seen either of those movies

6:28

and coming off of reanimator. I think

6:30

I can't imagine being,

6:32

like, thrilled in those films.

6:35

So we like ReAnimator go in.

6:38

Night ReAnimator. Night two,

6:40

the English patient. Oh, god.

6:44

What a double feature? I

6:47

was gonna say I didn't really know what to expect

6:50

going into this film, and that's not true

6:52

because I I think I knew what to expect

6:54

going into this film. And I got those

6:56

things, which is mid

6:58

eighties, the height

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of practical effects Yeah.

7:03

From the get go, we're going gross.

7:05

Yeah. If all else fails, go for the

7:07

gross out. So the grossing says and

7:10

you absolutely get it. This has a

7:13

an easy comics type of feel to

7:15

it like this classic, like horror

7:17

comic book. type of vibe

7:19

to it. I'm unfamiliar with

7:21

this HP Lovecraft story

7:23

that this is based off of. Same.

7:25

I have read a lot of HP Lovecraft

7:28

but I think the HP Lovecraft

7:30

that I gravitated towards was

7:32

much more of his, like, weird

7:34

existential fear type of the,

7:36

like, the rags in the wall kind

7:38

of -- Yeah. -- angsty bread and

7:40

less, like, gory bloody sort of thing.

7:43

I I don't I wonder if, you know, during

7:45

the cursory amount of research, III

7:47

wonder if these reanimator tales are even

7:49

in print because apparently these were

7:51

his least favorite love graphs

7:53

I mean. Like, he got paid by the

7:55

word they were they were he

7:57

considered them Schlocky. It was just like,

7:59

I'm gonna write this, Frankenstein, knock

8:02

off bullshit, and it's gonna pay my

8:04

bills. Yeah. I could totally see that. It definitely

8:06

this movie, not to speak of

8:08

the short story, it's based on the

8:10

this movie doesn't feel lovecraftian to

8:13

me -- No. -- when we talk about that as

8:15

an adjective. It feels it all I think you're

8:17

right. This feels more easy comics creep

8:19

show. I I recently ran into the phrase,

8:21

ghouls and gags. And

8:24

I think this is perfectly ghouls and gags.

8:26

This is like that wonderful. Like,

8:29

I put this film up there with

8:31

Return of The Living Dead in

8:34

that it's like amazing special

8:37

effects. subversive message,

8:39

like, you know, kind of anarchy

8:41

in the USA, kind of

8:43

eighties, and

8:46

gallows humor. Yeah.

8:48

Like, dark dark humor, one liners,

8:51

visual gags, that just that

8:53

is that is to me like that eighty's

8:56

sweet spot of horror. While we

8:58

open up at the University

9:00

of Zurich Institute of Medicine,

9:02

Oh. And some shit is going

9:05

down. Doctor Gruber. Paging

9:07

Hans Gruber. Hans. met

9:10

to look this up before we even started Yes. It is Hans Gruber.

9:12

Hans Gruber. Right? From Yes. It is. It's

9:14

really good. Yep. Mhmm.

9:16

Yeah. Hans Gruber. Dyer

9:18

was like nineteen eighty

9:19

six, so we had

9:21

these two movies back to back with just

9:23

Hans Gruber as a major player. Is

9:25

that weird? It's very stark. I wanna see

9:27

the film connecting. I

9:30

don't think that would work at all.

9:32

Maybe their brothers, I don't know. Who

9:34

even knows? So Please.

9:36

Doctor Groover is my father.

9:40

I'm an international terrorist. So

9:43

we've got this whatever shits going

9:45

down in some office. And more of that, doctor Gruber,

9:47

what's happening? What's going on in there? And

9:49

then when we get inside the office, we

9:51

see the man we will meet Jeffrey Combs

9:53

as Herbert West. This

9:56

young Americans kind of

9:58

wispy nerdy scientist or whatever

10:00

crowd over this older

10:02

doctor injecting

10:04

him with some kind of bright

10:06

green, like chartreuse. Just

10:09

a minute. Let's call it let's call it is. It is

10:11

it is highlighters and glow sticks.

10:13

It totally is. And

10:16

he's got doctor Gruber

10:18

who then lifts

10:21

back up is

10:23

howling, flailing, and there

10:25

is blood pouring out of every

10:28

head orifice he has. Yeah.

10:31

Now, Jeffrey, I have a question. How are you

10:33

with this film in general? because

10:35

this film is without a doubt

10:37

one of the bloodiest we have covered

10:39

on this show. It's it's now three

10:41

years old. It's three years old. Have we been doing this? It's three

10:43

years. Three years. Yeah. two and a half years.

10:45

Well, have I completely desensitized

10:48

you? Have I burnt off all your nerve endings

10:50

emotionally? I can squeeze the least recently

10:52

by somebody about whether or not, like, doing

10:54

this show for two plus years

10:56

makes me it, like,

10:59

desensitizes me to horror. And

11:02

think in a lot of ways it has. There's still some

11:04

stuff. I I find that it's changing like

11:06

the stuff that x me

11:08

out or scares me changes

11:11

over time. And this type of blood, these

11:13

I've come to really love practical

11:16

effects, blood. Yeah. I

11:18

think if I watch dead alive

11:20

again, that's still my number one of

11:22

bloody movies that really kicked

11:24

me out and I still get kind of

11:26

kicked out because Debt

11:28

alive is definitely a gross out

11:30

comedy more than

11:32

anything else and it really relishes

11:34

in being as gross as

11:36

it possible can't possibly can.

11:38

I don't this movie is

11:41

super gross. Super

11:43

duper gross. But I I

11:45

would say that there's like

11:47

a weight in this movie that's not

11:49

quite there for dead alive in its plot.

11:51

There's there's a moment which we'll talk about

11:53

later where we've got this,

11:55

like, you know, like,

11:57

chaining down of a woman and --

11:59

Oh, yeah. -- all of that that I found

12:01

really, like, creepy and disturbing

12:03

and, like, a really real upsetting sort

12:05

of way. So,

12:07

yeah, it's just kind of a balance. Like, it just sort

12:09

of it depends on the movie. But in

12:11

this one, I got really excited at

12:13

the get go of, like, just blood

12:16

pouring out of doctor Gruber's exploding

12:19

eyes. Like, I was definitely, like, y'all

12:21

are all gross, but I

12:23

like it. now. Welcome

12:25

to the dark side. Thank you. Thank you for

12:27

turning me over. So

12:30

doctor Gruber has stood up, but then

12:32

his eyes basically explode

12:34

blood gushes out of his mouth and his

12:36

eyes, and then he's now dead.

12:39

And his doctor yells

12:41

at Herbert. He's like, he's

12:43

dead. I was like, well, of course,

12:45

he is. The dosage was too

12:47

large. That, like

12:49

like, I gotta say, that line

12:51

reading if anything

12:53

carries throughout Jeffrey Combs

12:55

performance and kind of, like, I think this

12:57

was if not his first, like, one of his first

12:59

film roles, and I think

13:01

that confidence slash III

13:06

don't know how to like, that that is a

13:08

mad scientist. like that is how you

13:10

play a mad scientist of someone

13:12

who is just like, well, of

13:14

course, I could Of course, it was dead. I

13:16

the dosage will go. Like, that to me

13:18

is the quint is like what

13:20

made him so good in this role. And

13:23

if you haven't watched this

13:25

movie or aren't going to watch it. And I just

13:27

wanna hear us talk about

13:29

this movie. If you want a visual

13:31

of Jeffrey Combs as Herbert West in

13:33

this because he is. He's

13:35

really arrogant. He's really

13:37

fucking confident. He's really sure about

13:39

everything he's doing, but he looks

13:41

exactly like Kip dynamite from

13:43

Napoleon Dynamite. Like, he is -- Oh,

13:45

yes. -- tied dynamite keep

13:47

dynamite with with Lego with black

13:49

Lego hair. Yes.

13:51

Totally it. Totally exactly

13:53

the same look, but then

13:55

to get this I

13:58

guess Kitt dynamite has a little swagger

14:00

to him too, but it's played

14:02

for, like, a false swagger, a

14:04

false comedy, whereas, Herbert

14:06

seems evily competent.

14:08

I think the thing the thing about the thing

14:10

about that gets me about

14:13

Jeffricorn's performance is the stillness

14:15

and the like. The

14:18

again, it's it's the confidence

14:20

that is expressed in

14:22

not having do anything at all. Like like Stan as

14:24

Lofsky once said, don't just do

14:26

something, stand there. ReAnimator,

14:31

when we have the sort of the confrontation

14:33

between him and Dr. West

14:35

in the scene, all he has to

14:37

do is dare at that man

14:39

and break a pencil. And

14:41

throw another pencil out of his pocket.

14:44

Yeah. And that all

14:46

he has to do. Yeah.

14:48

He the last line of

14:50

this opening scene is

14:53

this doctor shouting, you killed him and

14:55

he says, no. I gave him

14:57

life -- Yes. -- credit. Like,

15:00

you almost just like, I had

15:05

to I had to stop the credit. I've seen this

15:07

movie countless times, but I had to stop the credits and

15:09

be like, is this action surely the

15:12

opening theme from Psycho. It

15:14

is not Bernard Herman's opening

15:16

theme from Psycho. It is a,

15:19

like, like La

15:21

Coste Alligator brand

15:23

knock off. We got

15:26

Heidi Fox Bernard Hermann is what

15:28

we got. But

15:31

it is I I love it. I love I love

15:33

the opening sequence. You know, I do love an

15:35

animated opening sequence. I think it gets me in

15:37

the mood. And and

15:39

sure. Yeah. They blatantly ripped off the

15:41

theme from Psycho. You know what? That's

15:43

okay. Like that movie was

15:45

full twenty years prior, this

15:47

movie is doing something very different. So

15:49

we cut to the Miskatonic Med

15:51

School in Arkham, Massachusetts. Good

15:54

old Miskatonic You. I

15:57

wonder if I can get into the archaeology department

15:59

there. Maybe they're doing very

16:01

big things. Mhmm. We meet

16:03

doctor Cain. This is

16:05

Dan. Kane, Nadine Cain.

16:07

Nadine Cain. Nadine Cain. We have

16:09

Dan Cain, young

16:12

med student daughter, doctor intern

16:14

sort of person, and he is you

16:16

know, he's giving, you know, chest

16:19

compressions to a dying lady on the

16:21

table and the doctor's zapping

16:23

this patient again, and the doctor of the other

16:25

doctor this woman's basically

16:27

is like, doctor Cain, she's

16:29

flat lining. Yeah. She's she's

16:31

gone. As a doctor, you have to know

16:33

when to stop when it is

16:35

done. The scene will now back into

16:37

play, the end of the film, I

16:39

love I oh, man. That last the

16:41

last scene of this movie gets me every time.

16:43

Yeah. One of the things that also gets me

16:45

every time about this movie is the

16:48

misogyny of this movie is real.

16:50

It's it's tough to chew and

16:52

swallow. Oh. Please talk

16:54

about being tough. Yeah. It's Like,

16:56

from the very get go, we have

16:58

this sort of, you know, the trope

17:00

of the sort of, like,

17:03

professor McGonigal doctor. If

17:05

you will, you know, the, like,

17:07

the woman who is in charge

17:09

of the young handsome you

17:12

know, if he has a fault, he's

17:14

too caring. And you have this

17:16

like, you know, battered old hag

17:18

who's just like doctor,

17:20

you gotta, you know, turn off

17:22

your heart. Like, what a terrible

17:24

what a terrible stereotype,

17:26

you know, especially because I mean nobody

17:28

in this movie is

17:31

good per se except

17:33

for Meghan who

17:35

played to the hilt by Barbara

17:37

Cranpton -- Mhmm. -- but

17:39

my God she is

17:41

this poor woman, she is put through

17:43

the fucking ringer. Boy, she

17:45

really is. But back to this

17:47

opening sequence, it's this idea of

17:50

like if he's a young cute doctor, oh,

17:52

you know, he just cares too

17:55

much. And we kind

17:57

of like put it you this woman who probably

17:59

has, like, nine other interns she has

18:01

to wrangle and, like, you

18:03

know, like, I just hate that. I hate

18:05

that stereotype. type -- Yeah.

18:07

-- of, like, you know and it's always a fucking woman.

18:09

It's always a woman that's, like,

18:11

turn off your heart. You

18:14

know? five points to Gryffindor.

18:16

I was talking to a friend

18:18

of mine about romantic comedies the

18:20

other night and, you know, like, the movie

18:22

love actually sort of famous slee

18:25

is -- Yep. -- just kind of a hot mess.

18:27

But, like, a lot of genre,

18:29

like, trade paper back genre

18:33

stories. A lot of genre

18:35

films kind of exist in this

18:37

world of like easy archetypes. You're just

18:39

trying to crank out trade mass market

18:41

paperbacks. You're just trying to crank out the mystery. You're

18:43

trying to crank out the romance. You're trying to crank

18:45

out the horror, the sci

18:47

fi. And you

18:49

fall into line

18:51

with real simple tropes and real simple

18:53

archetypes and kind of

18:55

whatever is of the moment

18:57

-- Yeah. -- whatever the du jour

18:59

is, this is very

19:01

mid eighties, the way in which in a

19:03

horror film, the

19:05

women are either, you

19:07

know, scary hags. We don't

19:09

quite have like a horror lady. We don't

19:11

have a we don't have, like, missus

19:14

Voorhees here. Yeah. But we

19:16

do have this doctor who is just

19:18

kind of a little a little gruff

19:20

hearing. Yeah. we

19:22

have an unfeminin one might

19:24

say. And then we have the screen queen. We

19:26

have the victim of everything that can

19:28

go wrong. Any violence that

19:30

could be committed of the --

19:32

Yes. -- subject of all said violence. Like, even

19:35

her dad is like like,

19:37

ugh, got her dad dad's

19:40

colleague, the main character.

19:42

Like, honestly, one of the reasons I

19:44

love the Herbert West character is because he's

19:46

the only person not, like,

19:49

lusted after her boobies. Yes.

19:51

Yeah. As a gay man, I'm

19:53

like, yeah. But in all honesty,

19:56

I'm more stating on Meghan when she's

19:58

like, you need to ask your roommate some

19:59

more questions before you say

20:02

yes. Letting you use your

20:04

fucking basement, dude. or

20:06

else, that's the last study

20:08

date you'll be seeing for me

20:10

over here. Lady doctor basically tells

20:14

young Dan like,

20:16

well, you know, awesome stuff. with you.

20:18

Yeah. Take her take her to the morgue. So

20:20

he takes his body of the morgue. We meet

20:22

the security guard by

20:24

the morgue. ug. Yep. Who

20:26

does it does a little bit of foreshadowing

20:28

in the sense that he says, hey,

20:30

don't know why they lock the doors around

20:32

here. Nobody wants in and ain't nobody getting

20:35

out. Chuckled. Chuckled. Oh, just

20:37

wait about an hour and

20:39

fifteen minutes. And

20:42

yeah, we will want to get inside

20:44

the unlocked doors of the morgue.

20:47

Okay. So now we need Well, we've

20:49

met Herbert in the open the cold

20:51

open. But now Herbert is here

20:53

at the Miskatonic Med

20:55

School. and it is Herbert

20:57

along with Dean Halsey.

21:00

Yeah. And doctor

21:02

Hill, who is kind of the Dean

21:05

Halsey, obviously, the dean of the school then doctor Hill who is, like,

21:07

the older gentleman,

21:09

he is the he is,

21:11

like, the main professor,

21:13

he is the celebrity doctor.

21:16

He's the the the person that everything

21:18

kinda goes through. Like the like Dean

21:20

Holsey even describes them as what their their

21:23

their grant their grant ReAnimator.

21:26

Yes. Like this guy wrote a paper

21:28

once about brain

21:30

death and and Now

21:32

the medical facility has everything a

21:34

good ever possible we want because of

21:36

doctor Carl Hill. Oh, Carl,

21:40

Also, when we meet Carl, I wanna

21:42

point out that the way we meet

21:44

him, this scene begins with the

21:46

close-up of a corpse's forehead.

21:48

a hole being not

21:51

drilled but burned open. Leasered.

21:54

Leasered open. And then

21:56

he's just digging brain tissue out with a fucking

21:58

q tip. Like,

21:59

oh, I have some

22:02

questions about what is happening at

22:04

Miskatonic. medical care.

22:06

I know you should go in

22:08

for your physical c, so you've never done

22:10

this before. They're like, I

22:12

feel like I'm gonna get unsanned.

22:14

You know? Because,

22:17

okay, later, I I noticed this upon

22:19

watching this. Doctor Carl

22:22

Hill in his office has a one

22:24

way mirror padded

22:26

room attached to

22:29

his office. You're

22:31

right. Who is office? I

22:33

didn't even think about like why we have

22:35

this. I

22:35

was like, what does

22:37

that kind of work are you

22:40

doing? I understand the notion of an operating

22:42

theater. Yeah. But

22:44

this is like like because

22:46

like later, spoiler Dean Halsey,

22:48

you know, gets ReAnimator, and then, you

22:51

know, then gets essentially,

22:53

what do you call it,

22:55

Would they put the thing in your eye? Yeah. And

22:58

uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. That thing that thing -- Mhmm. --

23:00

that thing, would they, you

23:02

know, make you very compliant.

23:04

Yes. But it's like

23:06

attached to doctor Hill's

23:09

office this

23:10

Like, can

23:11

you imagine going in for, you know, whatever

23:14

reference because this guy is ostensibly doing

23:16

like brain stuff he

23:19

doesn't need a padded room.

23:21

He's not a psychiatrist or a psychologist.

23:23

He's not, like, what?

23:26

What? Who mentioned as is operations

23:28

for that? Like, when you go to your Department

23:30

of Operations -- Oh, right. -- I would like to

23:32

install a one way mirror. They're like, I

23:34

I see that doctor doctor

23:37

doctor Hanson over here,

23:39

he's moved on. And his

23:42

office abutts mine, can

23:44

we just I suppose, can we

23:46

just take his office and just make that

23:48

into a padded cell one way mirror

23:50

kind of thing so that I can just

23:53

psychically control people who have been

23:55

lasered in the brain? Sure. There's

23:57

famously very little paperwork or explanation

23:59

required in any kind of academic

24:01

setting. So that would be very easy and

24:03

quick to do. Excellent. Excellent.

24:05

See you in the vault. I love this

24:07

meeting between Herbert and doctor

24:09

Hill because we get we get

24:11

full on Herbert. We had one liner Herbert to

24:13

open. And here -- Yeah. -- and here we

24:15

get full on. Herbert is

24:17

an arrogant prick. I love him

24:19

for it. Right. Because doctor

24:22

Hill is also an arrogant prick but in

24:24

a more, like, I

24:26

am an older gentleman. I am experienced. I am

24:28

not in the establishment. Yeah. The

24:31

establishment is the word. And Herbert

24:33

is the young

24:35

man shaking the whole thing up. And

24:37

it's so weird that he's like this, you

24:39

know, we know what went down

24:41

in Zurich. Mhmm. Right? because we we

24:43

saw the opening But it's

24:46

the fact that, like, Herbert goes

24:48

into this scenario.

24:51

This this season on you

24:53

know, general hospital, miss catonic you. Like

24:58

unapologetically gunning

25:00

for

25:01

for

25:02

here to shake it up. Like,

25:05

you know, I would think if I killed my old

25:08

professor, there's like police

25:10

officer, you know, poor doctor

25:12

Gruber, Port Hans Gruber.

25:14

I I would think that I know

25:17

cellphones and email was not invented in

25:19

the eighties, but I would think somehow

25:21

Some word of

25:23

the mysterious nature of that death would have

25:25

gotten back to Massachusetts. I

25:28

feel like it would have. Yes.

25:31

Right. Yeah. Dr. Hill has an easy comeback

25:33

here with that information and he

25:35

doesn't use it. To be like,

25:37

well, my research

25:39

may be out of date, but

25:41

I have never killed one of my professors.

25:43

That's right. But I'm not

25:45

a murderer. Vends up

25:47

hands up anybody in the room.

25:49

not a murderer? 1230

25:52

Seguin class? It sets

25:54

the tone for the we

25:56

now have our antagonists. right,

25:58

Herbert and Doctor Hill, because Herbert immediately

26:01

says your your work on

26:03

brains is long pause,

26:05

Outdated -- Oh.

26:08

-- and it also tells him that whatever

26:10

work you did do on brains,

26:13

your study was there outdated the moment you had it anyway

26:15

because it was just derivative of

26:17

doctor Gruber's work. You were

26:19

just some would say you

26:21

were plagiarizing. his work. I I love

26:23

how they, like, they refer to, like, in

26:25

Europe. As if it's, like

26:27

somehow, you know, like, as Americans

26:30

were always, oh my gosh. If somebody says in Europe or in

26:32

England, then we are we're

26:34

like, we instantly think, okay,

26:36

better, older, Yeah.

26:38

You know, and yet somehow creakier.

26:41

Somehow more traditional.

26:43

CECL, it's pronounced Ibitha.

26:45

I know because I went there

26:47

for one summer in college. To Barcelona.

26:52

Barcelona Medical University. No.

26:56

I I love this quartet that we have

26:58

here. Yeah. I mean, essentially, this is,

27:00

you know, we have pure

27:03

evil in doctor Carl Hill. We have,

27:05

like, evil neutral.

27:09

Yeah. Neutral bad. I don't know.

27:11

In Herbert West, And

27:13

then we have the two kind of can

27:15

be sweat like the sort of

27:17

weaker personalities that are sort of

27:19

swayed to whoever

27:21

has the strongest emotional

27:25

gravitational pull in,

27:27

you know, young Dean Cane not

27:29

Dean Cane. Dan Cane. And

27:31

Dean Halsey. Dean Halsey.

27:34

Yes. Because Dean Halsey

27:36

is like, he's just he's

27:38

a pencil pusher. Yeah. He's a pencil pusher with a really

27:40

hot daughter. Uh-huh. And, you

27:42

know, he's very, like, out of sight, out of mind. He's,

27:44

like, listen, as long as the checks keep

27:47

coming in, you

27:49

know, I might as well betruth my daughter

27:51

to doctor Carl Hill, my

27:53

darling, you make this beautiful dinner. Oh

27:55

my god. We're gonna talk about this dinner here in a

27:57

moment. Okay. And then Dan

27:59

Dan, who has so many

28:02

opportunities to unentangle himself

28:04

from all of this bullshit. and

28:06

yet does not? Well,

28:08

talk to me about this dinner CECL.

28:10

Let's go ahead and jump to that. So

28:12

it's kind of weird that, like, Just

28:14

already you know there's something

28:16

rotten. There's something there's something

28:18

foul about this this

28:20

weird relationship between Dean

28:23

Halsey, doctor Hill, and Meghan.

28:25

Because one, she made them

28:27

dinner. They're drinking the red wine. Mhmm.

28:30

And did she notice the dinner? It's

28:32

like It's like

28:33

rice.

28:34

It's literally she like made them

28:37

like a biryani. Okay?

28:39

Great. I didn't even notice. I

28:41

was like, what is because they comment there, you

28:43

know, because doctor doctor Hill is gonna be

28:45

like, you know, naked. You should stick

28:47

around and know, you

28:50

know, like, Leary McLeary's and,

28:52

you know, you made this beautiful dinner.

28:54

Now you're gonna run off with, you

28:56

know, oh, doctor Halsey, shouldn't you

28:58

keep a a handle on your Maybe

29:00

you should be a little more you know, it's just like, okay, co parent. Yeah.

29:03

Listen. Shut the fuck up.

29:05

About how to how to raise

29:07

a child. Thank you.

29:10

But it's like, oh, you should really appreciate this fine dinner.

29:12

And I look down at the dinner, and it's literally

29:14

just like a pile of rice.

29:17

I was like,

29:20

oh, well, I mean, maybe it's like maybe it's

29:22

like a lamb biryani or something. Yeah. You took

29:24

a long time. Who knows where the meat even

29:26

is? Who knows who knows? But

29:29

it's I don't know. This this

29:31

already sets up. And apparently, there was there

29:33

was, like, another forty five

29:35

minutes this movie in which doctor

29:37

Carl Hill is supposed to have, like,

29:39

psychic abilities, which we

29:41

kind of see a little bit later in the

29:43

film. But already,

29:45

with that haircut, And like that

29:48

voice, he is you already

29:50

know he's evil. Right? Yeah. Like we all

29:52

know he's he's chaotic

29:54

evil. Yes. There's no point in time where you

29:56

see doctor Carl Hill and you think I trust this

29:58

man. You're like, yeah. You know, welcome

30:00

to my office with the

30:03

the patted one way

30:05

death bureau room.

30:07

So we meet

30:09

Meghan Halsey. Right? So this is doctor

30:12

k. Dan's girlfriend. Yep. It

30:14

sort of sets up, like, they're really flirty,

30:16

they're cute, like, young in love, like,

30:18

new in love. Maybe still, like,

30:21

that like, flirty thing. Like, the moment we

30:23

meet them is him, like, flirting

30:25

with her in the hallway and her

30:27

going No. No. No. And then it immediately

30:30

cuts yes. Yes. So they're plus or

30:32

sexually active. Yep. But it's

30:34

also a very, like, nineteen

30:37

fifties, like, she literally she's flat

30:39

out says, which, hey, listen, I love a

30:41

girl who knows her worth and her

30:43

standard. She's like, uh-uh, You

30:46

get nothing from me. You

30:48

get that MD. You get

30:50

me. Ring on the finger. Whatever

30:52

you want, baby. But until then,

30:54

It is pizza and Coca Cola

30:57

and study hall. Uh-huh.

31:00

Because I am not chaining myself

31:02

to a, you know, to

31:04

a dude who can't finish fucking finish

31:06

medical school. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And

31:08

I would like a credit check, by the way. I

31:10

would like a full credit check before we

31:12

get involved financially and meridly.

31:15

So they're all flirty,

31:18

post coital, flirty, whatever she's

31:20

getting ready to leave. and then submit the throwing

31:23

across the room. Yeah. That's right. The cat, like, jumps on

31:25

her at one point in time, Rufus. I think is the

31:27

cat's name. in Rufus. That was That that

31:30

cat cat ever behaved.

31:32

Also, did you

31:35

notice the talking

31:37

heads poster? poster

31:39

Oh, no. I did not. That's

31:41

very good. Hits

31:44

lovely. lovely Great.

31:46

Mhmm. Mhmm. So

31:49

she's about to leave. She opens the

31:51

front door and whoa. There is

31:54

doctor Herbert West. Oh, the front door.

31:57

He's like, hey, I came to us all

31:59

your ad for needing a

32:01

roommate. What do you say, Powell?

32:04

I do like this moment where Meg Megan

32:06

Meg, I guess they call her Meg. We introduce

32:08

hers Megan, but they call her Meg throughout the

32:11

movie Meg. is talking to Herbert, and she's

32:13

obviously a little skeptical. Like, maybe --

32:15

Yeah. -- maybe Dan, we should ask him

32:17

a few more questions. can

32:20

you pay rent? Maybe you need to

32:22

think about it. How would

32:24

she say? For a night. also

32:27

love like when, you know, when put

32:29

his pants on, which like, okay. Sure. You

32:31

knocked out their door. She opened

32:33

the door. You're naked. Okay. Cool. Like,

32:36

Come on. Like, this is not I don't have

32:38

to be terribly prudish

32:42

about this, but I kinda love the

32:44

awkward silence between Meg

32:46

and Herbert. We're we're like,

32:48

Herbert's like, I struggled. You didn't I, and

32:50

she goes, yep.

32:53

Because fuck it, Barbara

32:56

Cranton, like, she gives just

32:58

as much as she gets in this film. Like,

33:00

she's not given a ton to

33:02

work with but she holds her

33:04

own as an eighty scream queen

33:06

actress. Yeah. Like,

33:08

she's, you know, screams with best of them,

33:10

but also in these moments, she

33:12

she has that dry sense of humor

33:14

that I wish this movie had given

33:16

her more opportunities

33:19

to utilize. Just my wish. I

33:21

think that's a great point. Like, that that's part of

33:23

the the the great acting thing too.

33:25

Is is that it it endears you to the

33:27

character just that the character has good

33:29

qualities about them. Right. But that the

33:31

character is relatable

33:33

in a scene that they behave in a way

33:35

that is identifiable to you.

33:37

It's all for charisma points. Yeah. That's

33:39

what it is. You know, like like a plus

33:41

two charisma can, like,

33:44

take take a hero and turn him into or

33:46

her into a like

33:49

epic hero. We

33:51

talked about in our day

33:53

of the day of the Trifids

33:55

episode wherein we had

33:57

the the lighthouse couple and there was

33:59

Karen -- Oh my god. -- who was very

34:01

smart and I always wanted to cheer for

34:03

Karen, but her primary personality

34:06

was ear splitting

34:08

screaming. Yes. And and and

34:10

also one time things went wrong. She kind

34:12

of like hit out of the way for Debbie

34:14

Downer. Yeah. Debbie Downer. So

34:16

when things got tough or when there

34:18

was an awkwardness or a scare or

34:20

something, she does the very classic fifty

34:22

sixties thing of just we don't we're not

34:24

sure how women would behave in a situation

34:26

like this we'll just have them scream as kind of what the

34:28

director does. And here with Barbara

34:30

Crumpton, this isn't a scary

34:32

scene, but she is behaving

34:34

in a way that's super

34:36

relatable that that I think all of us

34:38

men and women can look at this character and be

34:40

like, yep. That's

34:42

the type of Reunion feature

34:44

did bust in on

34:47

a STEMU. She

34:49

also asks Herbert here.

34:51

She said, oh, you never said,

34:53

why you left Switzerland and he said, bam. Bam. She gets I

34:55

love it. She gets like one. She's like, you know what?

34:57

Fuck it. My boyfriend, he's adorable. He's

34:59

also an idiot. I'm

35:02

gonna ask one question. And she gets right the fuck

35:04

to it. Yeah. Maybe maybe she saw the opening

35:06

credits as well. Yeah. That's probably true.

35:09

And he says, I had no

35:11

more left to learn there.

35:14

Good. Well, you know,

35:16

evasive, Perry and

35:18

Dodge. Yep.

35:20

Okay. So doctor let's talk about doctor Hill's lecture. Again,

35:22

we start a scene with doctor

35:24

Hill demonstrating how to rip open

35:26

a human scalp to get to the brain.

35:29

which again, like okay. To

35:32

Jeffrey, yes. You know, I watched this

35:34

movie. You know, you know, you always you always start these

35:36

episodes with a question for me. I had a

35:38

question for you. Yeah. how do you

35:40

feel about your body?

35:42

I don't like

35:45

sound effects of

35:47

my body. It's like, when you know when you can

35:49

hear your own heartbeat. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Especially, like, you know,

35:52

when you get, like, a sinus infection or

35:54

stuffy nose, sometimes you can feel it and hear

35:56

it in

35:58

the, like, back of your ears. I don't

35:59

like that.

36:00

I have in my

36:02

older age, I literally have

36:05

heard my knees creak as

36:07

I understood. I'd yeah. The

36:10

this I'm going back to Cameron

36:12

Svezito on this very podcast talking about.

36:14

It's not the visual things that make her

36:16

not like horror. It's the

36:18

sounds. And the sound of him

36:20

ripping the scalp off

36:22

describing it. It's like peeling a large

36:24

orange. It really does yeah.

36:26

It does feel like somebody peeling up

36:28

carpeting. It sounds so bad.

36:31

It sounds like fibers ripping away

36:33

from one another. There's a dryness

36:35

to that scalp ripping

36:37

away that is it's old glue being torn apart

36:40

-- Yeah. -- from a swatch of

36:42

fabric. That's how

36:44

I feel about my body. Mhmm. Until

36:47

I don't like I don't like thinking

36:50

of how material it

36:52

is because the

36:54

sounds dictate a different

36:56

material than I think my body. It's made of yeah.

36:58

Does that make sense? Oh, yeah.

37:00

Absolutely. Like, youth you know, the the body of

37:02

the mind and the body of

37:04

the flesh are two very different things. Mhmm. And the body of the

37:06

spirit one might say is an even different

37:08

thing. Would you would

37:10

you ever donate your body

37:12

to science? Yeah.

37:14

Yeah. Definitely. Like, would you,

37:16

like like, does it freak you out to think

37:18

about, or not at all, to think

37:20

about, like, you being that cadaver

37:22

that some medical students like, and if we

37:24

take this and we Mhmm.

37:26

That does not freak me out at all. I

37:28

mean, my rule my only

37:30

request when I die is

37:33

just to triple check that I'm dead. You want

37:35

the fucking bell? Mhmm. You want

37:37

you want the

37:40

the window? bury me,

37:42

burn me, cut me open, launch me out

37:44

of a can and whatever you need to

37:46

do for Because when I

37:48

am dead, then whatever

37:50

happens with my body is

37:52

that's on everyone else to figure out

37:54

what closure they need, how they

37:56

want to celebrate or

37:58

not my life. And then

38:00

we move on.

38:02

That's for everyone else. But for me,

38:04

Just triple check that I'm dead. Make sure that I'm not still using it. You

38:07

can put me in one of those big I know

38:09

that a lot of bodies donated to science end

38:11

up in these giant

38:14

fields. where they study decomposition of the body -- Yes. -- so body farm --

38:16

Yeah. -- in the continental Tennessee is the famous one. Yeah.

38:18

That's how I feel. What about

38:22

you? Oh, man.

38:24

Well, I don't know. It's so funny watching

38:26

this movie upon this rewatching.

38:28

I got thinking a lot about

38:31

you know, the the Frankenstein myth which

38:34

arguably is the first

38:36

horror story like the

38:40

very first I mean, of of the horror

38:42

fantasy sci fi genre. Yeah.

38:44

And a lot of it's based on just what

38:46

you were

38:48

saying of things that gross people out about the

38:50

medical profession, the grave

38:52

digger, the, you know,

38:54

I am bigger than I

38:57

I will create life. Uh-huh. It's

39:00

alive. Like, all of that is kind of

39:02

based on the sphere that people are gonna

39:04

start tinkering around with your guts.

39:07

before you're done with them. Yeah. Yeah.

39:10

And then we extend that even

39:12

further into the existential fear,

39:14

which is I think more where

39:16

I fall of this

39:18

like, what life

39:20

is life? If you come

39:22

back screaming and howling

39:26

in pain, you know. And I think that, you know,

39:28

like, yes, absolutely,

39:30

make sure that I am checked the fuck

39:32

out. Mhmm. If turned in

39:36

the key, have left the parking lot before you start, you

39:38

know, chopping up my body for

39:40

science, which will probably never happen because

39:42

I have

39:44

pre existing medical conditions that most people don't really need

39:46

to do anything with. But don't

39:48

bring me back if it's like

39:50

a life of torture and malays.

39:54

And, yeah, gross. Like,

39:57

come on. There's one

39:59

scene in which can't remember somebody's reanimating

40:01

somebody else and there's ReAnimator going on in the

40:04

backroom from the And I'm

40:06

like, this

40:09

This is what you

40:12

want? Do not. Thank

40:15

you. Do not Like, do not want? Mhmm.

40:17

Like, leave me dead, my man. Yeah.

40:20

Let me One life. One life was

40:22

painful enough.

40:24

That's the undercurrent

40:26

of this movie and it doesn't

40:28

hammer the theme like a like

40:31

a solid like rich

40:34

literary fiction. And this is a

40:36

shawky movie, of course. But the

40:39

the undercurrent of the message

40:41

of this movie is that it's dealing with is

40:43

the existential question of like what is

40:46

life. Yep. If you could reanimate

40:48

a body, what does that

40:50

actually mean to

40:52

the body itself? You know, it doesn't

40:54

dive in as much as my, like,

40:56

academic intellectual brain wants it too. I want it you know, I want

40:59

but it's there. But it's there. It

41:01

definitely goes into that

41:04

that you know, all the way to the end, which is,

41:06

is it the dead that want to be back to

41:08

life, or is it the living who want the dead

41:10

to come back to life? It's so interesting like

41:14

Herbert West. wants to bring the dead back to life

41:16

for, let's say, pure science. Yeah. You

41:18

almost get the feeling that he,

41:20

like, he doesn't even care if his

41:22

name is

41:24

on it or not. It's more about the like, it's

41:26

that, you know, I just wanna see how

41:28

far we can

41:30

go. Yes. Doctor

41:32

Carl Hill is the opposite and that he

41:34

just wants his name on whatever's he wants

41:36

to be, like, doctor Carl Hill, t

41:39

m, trademark. Yep. famous.

41:42

Dan, of course, does it for

41:44

love. Yeah. And I think those are the only

41:46

reanimators that we have in this film. Right?

41:48

believe so interesting how, like, all three of them are bringing these

41:50

people back from the dead for such

41:53

different reasons. Yeah. And I

41:55

kind of wish that there

41:57

had been, like, other

41:59

other opportunities

42:00

of, like, why why

42:02

would you subject these

42:06

people to Oh, well, I guess they do

42:08

bring doctor I they do bring

42:10

Dean Halsey back just

42:12

to, like, shut him up.

42:14

Just they're like, oh, shit. He's dead.

42:16

Well, he's fresh. And if we reanimate him,

42:18

he's not dead anymore, so we didn't commit

42:20

murder. Well, let's talk about our

42:22

first reanimation

42:24

here. Well, Briefly to

42:26

talk about doctor Hill in this class

42:28

peeling this head open. This is where

42:30

we get Herbert just

42:32

snapping pencils in the

42:34

election. I love him.

42:36

He's such a bitch in the scene and I love

42:38

him. Girl, he's

42:40

so rude. and he

42:42

tells doctor Hill, he's, you know, you

42:44

should have stolen more of mister

42:46

Gruber's ideas because at least you

42:48

would have

42:50

ideas. Damn. point and points. And, like,

42:52

and doctor Carl Hill is just,

42:54

like, literally, you're watching a blow a

42:56

gasket. Like,

42:59

And and his I mean, admittedly, he does

43:02

get a pretty good fine line. It'll be a

43:04

pleasure to fail you, but a little bit

43:06

weak sauce

43:08

compared to having been dumped on for the last seven

43:10

solid minutes.

43:12

So Meghan and Dan can't

43:16

fine roofist the cow to know. Again,

43:19

poor meg. She's

43:21

like, that dude's creepy. Does

43:23

he eat? Does your roommate eat? I've been

43:25

that roommate before that I'm sure people are

43:28

like, what's up with

43:30

your roommates? It's because I feel common space in a shared

43:32

living environment is common space. Yeah. And

43:34

if I want to read or watch a

43:36

movie or

43:38

jerk off, I will do it

43:40

in my room. And honestly, that is mostly what I'm doing at all times. I had

43:42

a roommate in college who was a perfectly

43:46

nice guy. but apartment

43:48

together, two bedroom apartment, College

43:50

Station, Texas. But he whether

43:52

he was home or not, he kept his door

43:54

closed. Okay. So there

43:57

was often thing where I and we also

43:59

just didn't talk a whole bunch. You just

44:01

never knew. And so a lot of times

44:03

I get home from work

44:06

or school, And I was like, I have

44:08

no idea if he's here or not.

44:10

Yeah. And,

44:12

you know, you've sort of developed that's where you

44:14

develop the, hey, man, are you home? What's

44:16

going on? you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't really need anything

44:18

from you. I just need to know, can I

44:21

fart real loud right now? Can I

44:23

turn out my o's sake? Yeah. Can I

44:25

watch them? disturb you. Yeah. Am I not

44:27

gonna disturb you? Yeah.

44:30

Or you get dead? But the person who keeps

44:33

their shut all of the time is a

44:35

weird thing because it doesn't give you

44:38

levels of sometimes I'm just in my

44:40

room reading, or

44:42

listening to the radio or napping. And

44:44

I'll leave the door open because I don't mind being

44:46

interrupted. And sometimes I close my door because

44:48

I don't want to be bothered. Yes. And

44:50

it gives you some levels. But if it's always

44:52

closed, you always have a question, what

44:55

does he do in there?

44:57

Right? Yeah. Okay. Well, they do

44:59

go into they do go into the roommate's room. I love it

45:02

when they're,

45:04

like, Rovis,

45:05

you know,

45:07

because that has always worked for a cat. Yeah. Cats definitely come

45:09

when they're called famous for that. Meg

45:11

gets into Herbert's room and

45:14

finds, opens

45:16

his fridge and finds dead roofers in

45:18

the fridge. Yeah. Yep. I love

45:20

this that Dan confronts Herbert

45:24

He's like, why is my cat in your fridge? And he says, oh,

45:26

listen. I was gonna show

45:28

you this because of that. The

45:31

thing is, it was dead

45:33

when I found it, it was in the and it just -- Oh.

45:35

-- suffocated on the plastic garbage bag.

45:37

You know, no.

45:40

Okay. do. No. I think he said it, like, got its stuck

45:42

in a pickle jar. And it

45:44

was like doctor West.

45:47

You need to work

45:50

on that story because

45:52

that is not no

45:54

thing. No. Pet cats do ever.

45:58

No. or maybe they do, and I've just never heard of But

46:00

I'm not a veterinarian at

46:02

Miskatonic University. No.

46:04

No. He is he's so good with his one

46:08

liner he hadn't really worked on his alibis at all.

46:10

Yes. I mean, that's the

46:12

thing about these sort of, like, you know, the the

46:14

the sort of if I knew my

46:16

instagram better, the sort of the

46:18

scientist personality, is that, like,

46:20

they have a reason for everything.

46:22

They have, you know, everything is very

46:24

logical in their brains.

46:26

However, if, you know,

46:28

thinky if feely touchy

46:30

feelies come in like, start

46:33

picking things up -- Yeah. -- messing around with their

46:35

dewy decimal systems, they get thrown into

46:37

a tizzy and that is

46:40

when they're not so great. Yeah. He's gotten caught

46:42

in probable what is most likely a

46:44

lie, but he very likely killed this

46:48

to study it. And I and I love, you know, classic, like,

46:50

he's like, I thought I rented a private

46:52

room and I'm like, I thought

46:54

I rented a a live cat.

46:58

Also, not your house, my

47:00

house. Yeah. Like, I've seen

47:02

like, actually, you know, renters rules

47:04

are terrible. You should never rent out your

47:07

room because Rentros could fuck you up.

47:09

Like reanimating corpses in your basement? They

47:11

can. Yeah. Or like this fucking cat.

47:13

Like Rufus is about to try

47:15

to fuck up her. middle of the night.

47:18

Dango's sneaking around and he sees

47:20

in Herbert's room he

47:22

is injecting Yeah.

47:24

At Rufus with more glow

47:26

stick ink and

47:28

more highlight ink. That cat's gonna be going

47:30

to a rave later tonight.

47:33

he's gonna start

47:35

by

47:36

basically just digging his claws into Herbert's

47:38

torso. Oh my god. I love this

47:41

entrant. Like, we we got a lot of this last week --

47:43

Uh-huh. -- with Karen Black in

47:45

Trilogy of Terror. But,

47:47

like, watching actors

47:50

work with with, quote, animated props

47:52

and then they're just, like, adhered

47:54

to their body. Gives

47:57

me such joy. like,

48:00

it is like, we

48:02

all know. This is

48:04

like what you would do when you were a

48:06

child and

48:08

you're told you know, like, put on a play with your brother or

48:10

sister for your mom or dad or

48:12

whoever the fuck ed. Like, you're like,

48:14

it's eating me. Like, you just hold it

48:16

to your

48:18

face. and yet it is that and these people

48:20

are making a professional

48:22

level paycheck at it. And

48:25

I fucking love that. Like, that gives me such

48:28

joy. I love it. It's too hard when

48:30

he hurled that fucking cat against the

48:32

wall. He has

48:34

a cat staple to his back.

48:36

And then and then I love, like, you

48:38

know, you you know that this movie was shot in,

48:40

like, two weeks -- Mhmm. -- to hops.

48:43

and just reacting to nothing,

48:46

but they are fully committed to it. They're like,

48:48

you know, one of them's got a croquet, Malibu

48:50

was gonna like a baseball bat and they're just

48:52

like there and they just start like fucking shit

48:55

up on the set knowing full well

48:57

that this is the one and only take because

48:59

there's no we're not gonna reset for

49:01

shit. Mhmm. Nothing moves at

49:03

all. They're, like, over there, and then they just

49:05

start fucking shit up over there.

49:08

Brilliant. Super

49:10

great. Well, this at least convinces Dan that Herbert is

49:12

onto something because he watched his

49:14

dead cat come back to life

49:17

even if it went crazy. Yeah.

49:19

But he at least knows, Herbert's got

49:22

something

49:22

like like he like

49:24

he

49:26

Dan fully hurled that cat across the room. How much shall we

49:28

saw its brains come out against the

49:32

wall? So

49:34

gross. and then he revives the cat. He's like, wait, just one

49:36

moment. I love how, like,

49:38

they're very anal about the, like, tape

49:41

quarter, they're like, you must record. We must record. You

49:43

know what they're not anal about in

49:45

this movie? What's

49:48

that? Dosage. No.

49:50

It is like fifteen hundred

49:52

c c's and whatever. Yeah. We

49:54

don't know. There's literally no numbers

49:56

on that giant cartoonish syringe that they're I

49:59

was like, I was like, is that point

50:01

five? Is that one point

50:03

five? Because listen, that can make a

50:05

big difference in a lot of different

50:08

substances. They use they

50:10

use imperial measurements rather than metric

50:12

and it is technically three

50:14

jugs or in

50:16

the syringe. It's the distance from

50:18

your thumb to your nose. That's right.

50:21

much. That's that's

50:23

one foot. But I

50:25

love it, like, there's so anal, especially

50:27

your Herbert Westy sowing about, like, no, you

50:29

must record. I was like, Curl, kit,

50:31

like, mark dosage? Dosage. Body weight? Body

50:34

weight?

50:34

Yeah. Do what? No.

50:36

Oh, okay. Alright. --

50:39

condition of death. At

50:41

least, I would imagine if

50:43

you're reanimating brains that

50:45

a a spic association is a different type of

50:47

death than heart attack or getting hit by a

50:50

car or whatever. because I'm

50:52

assuming if this is, you know, this seems to

50:54

be reanimating it's

50:56

going after your your nervous system is, like, guess. I

50:58

think so. You know, because they keep putting in

51:00

the the the base of the skull, which I

51:03

was like, okay. Alright. sure

51:05

why not? Except when it's the big giant body, and then he

51:08

goes right for the heart, like oomathermon in

51:10

full face. Yep. So, you

51:12

know, we try and talk to Dr.

51:14

Halsey about this dumb

51:16

man. Beautiful dumb

51:18

man. Once and once and

51:20

none of this. And

51:23

he's all and the Dean Dean Holsey is also like, what have you

51:25

been doing with my daughter? And it's like, what Right.

51:27

You're off topic, sir. To

51:30

operate, like, like these two stupid men. Like Dan,

51:32

who is so like, oh my god, you would not

51:34

believe what I saw last night.

51:36

And Dean Halsey

51:38

is like, Proper, properper.

51:40

My daughter is a

51:42

virtue of paragon of virtuous

51:44

-- Yes. -- letter puppies. So

51:48

Dan goes with Herbert to

51:51

the moored, sifted him through some

51:53

dead bodies. We're going to

51:56

madness. I love it with the

51:58

system. Yes. Shop it. I love they're like, yes. Yes. No.

52:00

Meatball. That's your

52:03

meatball over there. I love

52:05

that they pick the

52:08

most muscally,

52:09

right dead body

52:10

naked man they could

52:13

find. I love this naked man. He's

52:15

the best. Okay. Fun fact.

52:17

Okay. This guy is was

52:19

Arnold Schwarzenegger stunt double

52:22

throughout, like, every eighties film -- Oh, wow. -- wholesaler

52:24

did. Okay. He looks like You know,

52:26

it's like yeah. Yeah. It's like

52:28

eighties muscle

52:30

beach like when that that like body physique,

52:32

you know, like literally let's get physical

52:34

kind of thing was in, and this

52:36

dude has a body for days.

52:38

But it is like, professionally

52:42

attuned athlete. That's what it is, is that he's

52:44

got full body sculpting

52:46

happening. Yeah. Like his

52:48

muscles are carefully

52:50

sculpted. It's not just like a beefy man. It is --

52:52

Yes. -- this is a linebacker. So

52:55

Herbert and Dan, they

52:58

they go inject this body in

53:00

the in the morgue.

53:02

Manging us at the hospital too.

53:04

Lady Douglas holding her back. Yeah.

53:06

Okay. Alright. you've been ejected from medical

53:09

school. One. Uh-huh. You're on

53:11

thin ice. Two. And you

53:14

think that this is the

53:16

best place to reanimate a two hundred and fifty

53:18

pound athlete.

53:22

Okay. So what you get your little

53:24

tape recorder that

53:26

says, yes, we have reanimated him. And then what?

53:30

Also, what is

53:30

your next step? Gentlemen? This

53:34

is like

53:34

felony level of crime.

53:37

Oh, yeah. To to fuck

53:39

with corpses, when you could just say,

53:41

you know what? What if what if we found some dead

53:43

animals? What if we started with a dead rat?

53:46

Right. What if we started just

53:48

let's start simple, you

53:50

guys. We don't have to be injecting humans

53:52

the moment we think of it. Well,

53:54

I mean, are they I I think

53:56

he said that, you know, doctor

53:59

Hrid West has been doing that. And that's

54:01

kind of what was going on in Europe.

54:03

Yeah. But he has been

54:05

doing the wrath to the cats and

54:07

the dogs and the possums and I don't know all that shit. Clearly has

54:10

not refined doing that yet

54:12

though. Like,

54:14

why, like, wait and see if little fluffy

54:16

-- Right. -- the the

54:18

the poodle mix could

54:20

come back to life and behave.

54:23

Like, a little fluffy. Yeah. The little

54:26

labradoodle. Like like, Harper West is

54:28

so a tittle. He's like, oh my god. You know,

54:30

the cat is like

54:34

It's like, well, don't expect to tap dance.

54:36

Its back is broken. I'm like, how

54:38

about if you something that

54:40

has not been through the mangler --

54:42

Uh-huh. -- first. Yeah.

54:44

Just to see, I don't know,

54:47

no no does it want

54:49

to be back? Yeah. Well, obviously,

54:53

the dean has the

54:55

Dean and his daughter, Meg, have come up to the

54:58

hospital. Mhmm. The Dean is really

55:00

the Dean is onto them. You know, something

55:03

is up. get to basically the door of the

55:05

morgue and they can hear all kinds

55:07

of commotion because we've got

55:10

nicked up Naked Arnold Short Senator, stunt

55:12

double, has come back to life, is

55:14

screaming in his going nuts.

55:16

He is.

55:18

unhappy. Yeah. Yeah. He is not pleased with his situation.

55:21

I love that this is

55:23

the moment that Dean

55:26

Halsey has at the door, the

55:28

door to the morgues locked.

55:30

Schwarzeneger basically, undead Schwarzeneger

55:32

basically pushes the entire door

55:34

off its hinges Yeah. Crushing Nadine

55:36

and then starts stomping on the

55:39

door, just jumping up and down

55:41

on it with Glee as if

55:43

he knew. And they're like, no,

55:45

bad, bad, bad

55:48

reanimated world nature.

55:52

bad commando. And they there's also another moment where

55:55

the dean stands up who's trying

55:57

to fight off this you

55:59

know, reanimated corpse. The reanimated

56:02

corpse straight up like

56:04

bites the Dean's fingers off. Oh,

56:06

yeah. Well, I love a good

56:08

finger bite. Yeah. Because honestly, for

56:10

practical effects, it gives a lot of

56:12

spray. It's like you can always see

56:14

the actor's face edit, like, I

56:16

think we all know, like I

56:18

mean, I have all of my

56:20

digits, but I think we can all it's like it's

56:22

like the nail thing of, like, we

56:24

can all imagine, like, we've we've

56:26

strained a a knuckle or something. Like, we

56:28

can take that to the next level. But, yeah,

56:30

you've you've some point in time, you

56:32

have, like, peeled a nail back or you

56:34

slammed a finger in a door.

56:36

And you know how painful that

56:38

your knuckles are and to have somebody chew those fuckers

56:40

right on. Oh god. Can you imagine?

56:42

Ugh. A little So However

56:44

-- Yes. -- it also has one of my

56:47

favorite moments in which, you know, dear old

56:49

handsome dumb doctor

56:52

doctor Dan is like, let me

56:54

try and arm wrestle this

56:56

guy to the ground and then Herbert West is

56:58

like, Dan, watch out.

57:00

I guess that brain saw and

57:02

just like cool as a cucumber.

57:04

he decides, I am gonna take this

57:06

circular saw and I am gonna

57:08

put it right the fuck

57:12

through his torso. Uh-huh.

57:16

Bold. Very bold move.

57:18

Like, I would think,

57:20

like, decapitate Yeah. We

57:22

know. Like Never the Never the

57:24

top level of the spine. Get that get that

57:26

head removed. Yeah. Yeah. Get that head removed

57:28

because nothing moves without a head. But no

57:30

no. And it's like, we get, like I mean,

57:32

this is some this is really, I think,

57:34

where this movie earns well, this in,

57:36

like, the last act is where this

57:38

movie earns its reputation

57:40

as being the bloody one of the

57:42

bloodiest movies ever made. Yeah. And just, like, gratuitous

57:44

and gleefully. Uh-huh. because there's no

57:46

reason he had to do that.

57:49

Nope. But it's like you see the shot

57:51

of the buzzsaw coming through the chest.

57:53

Oh my god. It's like it it's

57:56

classic. Before he even gets to this. The

57:58

dean is already dead. Oh, yes.

57:59

Now we've now we've

58:02

redidned this real life

58:04

corpse, so that thing's gone. And

58:07

and to read the the

58:09

redediator. The redediator. And then

58:11

the conversation here with

58:14

Herbert and Dan is

58:16

I think maybe we're getting a bodies that are too old. I need

58:18

a fresh body. So

58:20

now we can do that

58:22

with doctor with Dean Holsey,

58:24

with Dean. Suckredine.

58:26

Yeah. So they too,

58:29

and surprising no

58:31

one. Doctor Holzate

58:34

Doctor Dean Halzie turns into a Berserker as

58:36

well. Oh, my God. But not

58:39

before, you know, our

58:41

only African American Boudoir

58:44

reading night watchman. Name of

58:46

his magazine is Boudoir. Boudoir.

58:50

And I think Meghan is here. Of course Meghan picks this

58:52

moment to show up. Yeah. And listen,

58:55

this is where doctor Herbert

58:57

West really gets his

59:00

his alibi motor

59:02

running, I guess. He's like, yeah,

59:06

I was Okay. So

59:08

he was here because he works

59:10

here and I know

59:12

him because we're roommates.

59:14

That is correct. And then the dean the dean just

59:16

ran in and

59:18

just put this brain soft through

59:22

the body of this guy who is dead, but

59:24

was over there.

59:26

And this this poor fucking security

59:29

guard is like, I'm out. Like, literally says nothing

59:31

-- Yep. -- at just the wall. It's the

59:33

fuck out of the scene. Yep.

59:36

Like, like ah uh-huh.

59:38

This sounds like some white people nonsense to me.

59:40

Dean Halsey, unlike schwarznager

59:43

stunt double, is not

59:46

quite is not very muscular. So they managed to subdue

59:48

him enough to get him into a straight

59:50

jacket. I love it. He's giving me all

59:52

the midfield of, like, I

59:55

love Redfield as the idea, like, as an ideal character, and

59:57

he's giving you all

59:59

the Redfield. It's so it is, like, you

1:00:01

might as well, like,

1:00:04

draw be duck in a straight jacket. It's

1:00:06

like it is that level of

1:00:08

cartoonish. Yeah. But it's also

1:00:10

kind of why I love it. he's

1:00:13

great. He's he's such a good, like,

1:00:15

Tasmanian Devil sort of thing happening in the

1:00:17

background of the rest of the scenes of

1:00:19

this movie. Well, now we have doctor

1:00:21

Hill and Meghan in the one way

1:00:24

mirror of doctor Hill's office watching

1:00:26

the ship go down. And doctor Hill

1:00:28

is basically turning to Meghan saying,

1:00:30

like, hey, can you sign a release

1:00:32

form so I can do exploratory surgery

1:00:34

on your reanimated dad.

1:00:36

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah. That'll check something. because she

1:00:38

says and she does. She signs it

1:00:40

and says, I don't want to know what you're just him.

1:00:42

Yeah. All I'm I will sign whatever

1:00:44

if you are in the business of

1:00:48

how being my dad not be dead anymore or

1:00:50

crazy or whatever. And then

1:00:52

doctor Hill basically, this is where

1:00:54

he starts tried to

1:00:56

slide into her DM saying, you know, oh,

1:00:58

my god. You can always come to

1:01:00

me if you're lonely.

1:01:02

Grody. Grody. Grody. do

1:01:04

what? Doctor Hill and

1:01:07

do what? This

1:01:10

okay. have Hill

1:01:12

studying the Dean's brain.

1:01:14

Right. He's doing he's doing the brain

1:01:16

laser thing. He's doing the brain laser thing

1:01:19

to get into doctor The Dean's

1:01:21

brain -- Yeah. -- Herbert

1:01:23

comes in and

1:01:24

they get into a argument

1:01:28

or fight. fight does

1:01:30

this escalate so quickly? No.

1:01:32

No. No. Okay. So so doctor

1:01:35

Carl Hill, I

1:01:37

think knows that Dean

1:01:39

Halsey's dead and has been reanimated. So

1:01:42

he goes to Herbert

1:01:44

West's place. He goes to

1:01:46

the basement. because all this

1:01:48

takes place in the basement,

1:01:50

sees Herbert West, and they have their

1:01:52

sort of like dick measuring contest that

1:01:54

has been waiting this

1:01:56

entire movie. they're like gloves off. There's nobody here. We can

1:01:58

talk. Evil scientist to

1:02:00

Evil scientist. And that's

1:02:02

where doctor Hill

1:02:04

is like, that man is dead. You have

1:02:06

reanimated him. I am not small

1:02:08

minded. I just want to be the

1:02:10

inventor of it. I

1:02:12

will be

1:02:14

famous. I I will defeat one. Famous. Yes. You will do

1:02:16

what I you will do what I say. And then

1:02:18

does this weird like, they do this weird stare

1:02:20

down, which I think is

1:02:22

the holdover from doctor

1:02:24

Carl Hill being a psychic

1:02:26

predator. Yeah. Which then a

1:02:28

lot of the rest of the movie hinges upon.

1:02:30

But you know what? We're just going

1:02:32

with it. Dr. Herbert West grabs the

1:02:34

shovel and is like fuck you, you

1:02:36

discovered this. Uh-huh. Decapitate.

1:02:38

Yes. Then we have literally

1:02:42

my favorite scene in the entire thing

1:02:44

in which Doctor Herbert West is like He's

1:02:47

like pieces. Yes. I've

1:02:49

never done whole pieces before

1:02:53

and has tried to,

1:02:55

like, set the head up in

1:02:57

the pan. Uh-huh. He keeps falling over and sets it up again. And because

1:02:59

the role of comedy comes in three,

1:03:01

he grabs the

1:03:04

letter holder -- Uh-huh. -- and

1:03:06

just like just like like a fucking turkey

1:03:08

puts the man's head

1:03:12

and I I this is so

1:03:14

and I applaud. I loved it so much. I loved that so much. I wrote that down.

1:03:16

Because it's not Hamblit without the gravediggers.

1:03:18

Yet, you need Gallo's humor,

1:03:22

if you're going to deal with the

1:03:24

gallows, there is, like, bodies are

1:03:28

gloopy and gross and

1:03:30

weird. and

1:03:32

make terrible sounds. But

1:03:34

also, you're gonna fart during sex.

1:03:37

You know? Yeah. You're gonna have

1:03:39

to pee at the wrong apartment

1:03:42

vader. Yeah. Like bodies are weird and especially

1:03:44

when bodies are gone,

1:03:46

like we have completely sanitized the

1:03:50

whole what happens after we die kind of thing. But, you

1:03:52

know, like, all these these sort of Frankenstein mad

1:03:54

scientists think this all harkens

1:03:56

like two hundred years ago to

1:04:00

when bodies were just sorta everywhere. Yeah. That's

1:04:03

very true. And so you

1:04:05

would, you know, it wouldn't necessarily

1:04:07

be a thing to,

1:04:10

like, take a dead person's hand

1:04:12

to be like, look, I'm a liar if

1:04:14

you're insane. Yep. Or maybe

1:04:16

just really bored. I don't fucking know.

1:04:19

now we've got Herbert reanimating doctor

1:04:22

Hill's head, which I'm like,

1:04:24

why why we could do that? animating

1:04:27

her enemy. I think it's the control thing. Like, these two dudes

1:04:29

are in a dick measuring competition, so

1:04:31

they're just trying to one up each

1:04:33

other all the time. So it's like,

1:04:35

well, if he's beheaded, Now

1:04:37

that he's just ahead, I don't

1:04:40

know why he would have taunt him and do

1:04:42

whatever, but this

1:04:44

is where doctor Hill's psychics' body as well. Well, I think

1:04:46

here's what I think is happening. I think

1:04:48

he doesn't realize doctor Hill's

1:04:51

psychic abilities. Right. Right.

1:04:53

So think doctor Hill is able to

1:04:56

because we learned that he can also control

1:04:58

the other corpses including the Dean

1:05:00

Halsey, but he can also control his

1:05:03

own severed body. Yeah. And the body comes up

1:05:05

from behind Herbert and attacks

1:05:08

Herbert. Knox amount. Yeah.

1:05:10

But again, I've I just poor

1:05:12

poor doctor West. He's gone reanimated he's

1:05:15

gone reanimated nuts. Yes. Like,

1:05:17

stop reanimated. It's like, you know, when you

1:05:19

get a label maker and

1:05:22

you're Stop putting labels on everything around the

1:05:24

house. Uh-huh. I know that that is a

1:05:26

table. It does not need a

1:05:28

label. Get the label

1:05:30

maker down. So now we've basically,

1:05:32

what's happening is doctor Hill gets his

1:05:34

body to put on a

1:05:38

fake mannequin head with a

1:05:40

surgical mask. And I

1:05:42

I -- Yeah. -- goggles. Yep.

1:05:45

and I and the the the whatever so

1:05:47

it's fully covered. So full

1:05:50

invisible man here. Yeah. And

1:05:52

sneaking past the guard who's reading

1:05:54

Boudoir magazine to to go to work on

1:05:57

doctor Holsey in

1:05:59

the morgue. Yes.

1:06:02

and and do other nefarious things. So and

1:06:04

then the whole time he's carrying this

1:06:08

this very

1:06:10

critical feedback with his head

1:06:12

in it, which side

1:06:14

note, this is this is straight from the IMDB

1:06:16

trivia page. Apparently, Barbara

1:06:19

Cranpton, the smart smart person that she is in front of

1:06:21

an entire set full of men that said,

1:06:24

if the body can put the fake head

1:06:26

on top

1:06:28

of its own neck. Why doesn't it just

1:06:30

put its actual head --

1:06:31

Uh-huh. -- on top of its own

1:06:33

neck. Yep. And

1:06:36

everybody went, That's

1:06:40

not as cool looking. That's why

1:06:42

we need women directors. And

1:06:44

is why we need more women directors and writers in Hollywood, ladies

1:06:46

and gentlemen. I mean, you don't get

1:06:48

the visual. It's funny. It's hilarious. Yeah. But

1:06:51

it makes zero sense.

1:06:54

Well, and also, this coming scene too, also expresses not only why we

1:06:56

need more women working in film, but also why

1:06:58

we need intimacy coordinators. So I

1:07:01

feel like, god. That's just I

1:07:03

mean, Barbara Cranpton has

1:07:06

paid her dues in horror.

1:07:08

And I've seen is, you know,

1:07:12

basically the showdown inside the

1:07:14

morgue here. Yeah. Yeah. We're kind of into

1:07:16

our last act. Yeah. So Dan

1:07:19

is coming to stop whatever's

1:07:22

happening. Dean

1:07:24

Halsey is psychically gone to grab

1:07:26

his daughter to bring her -- Yeah. --

1:07:28

to be like, we're all meeting of the work.

1:07:30

there's a moment here where, like, doctor Halsey, crushes Dan

1:07:32

against a wall and starts to take Meghan away

1:07:34

because he's -- Yeah. -- he's in program mode

1:07:36

of, like, save daughter or whatever.

1:07:40

No. He's in he's in bring daughter to That's right. He's currently

1:07:42

into He's in a safe daughter.

1:07:44

He's in bring daughter to

1:07:47

he's Igor mode. Right? Like,

1:07:49

I'm bringing this to master.

1:07:52

Doctor Hill basically has her stripped

1:07:54

naked and strapped

1:07:56

down to the gurney or whatever. Yeah. And then there's all these, like,

1:07:58

creepy things of, like, his bloody head

1:07:59

coming in from side screen. Like,

1:08:02

he's like, his body is holding his head out

1:08:04

to her. It's brilliant the

1:08:06

way they shot it. Because you know

1:08:08

exactly what it is. It's like there's a

1:08:10

dude just off camera

1:08:12

and and they've like dressed it like

1:08:14

it's brilliant. but it is

1:08:16

also so leery and nefarious. Yes.

1:08:18

It's super male, Daisy, it's super

1:08:21

gross, and he's saying shit like while

1:08:23

he's drilling blood on her tits, saying

1:08:25

things like you will love me. It's

1:08:28

fucking gross, man. It

1:08:30

is It's over the top. It's over

1:08:32

the top. However, there

1:08:34

is just a moment

1:08:36

in through the character Herbert

1:08:38

West. to, like, you know, we see the plan of the, quote, good guys. Herbert

1:08:41

West comes in and he's gonna tap

1:08:43

dance. He's gonna do, like,

1:08:45

do the sideshow

1:08:48

to distract doctor Hill with Dan on Hooks Meghan

1:08:50

and they sneak out the back. Right? Yes. And the first thing

1:08:53

he says

1:08:56

is, like, look at you. You are a

1:08:58

re you're a back from the dead. You have you have

1:09:00

the you have everything.

1:09:02

And the first thing you do

1:09:05

is, like, August, some COVID? Yes. Which I think is honestly, like,

1:09:08

what all of us are

1:09:10

thinking were, like, my god, you

1:09:12

have This

1:09:15

is your Achilles heel. Is like blonde

1:09:18

girls? Boobies? Really?

1:09:21

Boobies? Yeah.

1:09:23

Come on. Come on, my man. Doctor

1:09:24

Hill also says during this kind

1:09:26

of showdown with Dan and Herbert

1:09:28

that he's like he

1:09:31

sort of reveals his technique in his

1:09:33

lobotomy technique -- Right. -- that allows him

1:09:36

this is, like, planting some type of

1:09:38

microchippy sort of thing. You know, like,

1:09:42

whatever it is that allows him the ultimate

1:09:44

control of human will. Yes.

1:09:47

But it's doctor Halsey

1:09:49

that gets turned here and starts becoming an

1:09:52

agent Dean Halsey -- Yeah. --

1:09:54

agent of chaos because he starts to

1:09:57

comprehend the appeal

1:10:00

to his fatherness to your job is

1:10:02

to protect your your daughter. Yeah. Like, Meg Meg,

1:10:05

like, you know, she's like, got three zombies

1:10:07

on which I also loved the moment, you know, which they're they

1:10:10

like, you think they're like, oh my gosh, this plan

1:10:12

might work. Yeah. And then doctor Carlos,

1:10:14

like, I've been busy with plans. I'm

1:10:17

my own and did, like, all the zombies pop up.

1:10:19

I love that moment. That is, like, so horrifying. And it's, like, we've been waiting for

1:10:21

it. Like, we didn't know we were

1:10:23

waiting for it. since

1:10:27

the moment we entered that morgue, but we were waiting for

1:10:29

all of those questions to be

1:10:31

achievable. Right? So it's just

1:10:34

a herd of naked zombies attack our

1:10:36

heroes and and and and and and Meg as

1:10:38

well. And but Dean but Dean has a moment

1:10:41

of connection with his daughter -- Yes. -- and you can see

1:10:44

him acting through the crazy -- Yes. -- and

1:10:46

he kinda I don't remember what he does

1:10:48

because it's all honestly, the last ten

1:10:50

minutes left. It's just fuck here. It is

1:10:53

panda fucking ammonium. It's it's like there's like

1:10:55

zombie corpses everywhere ended like they attack. I

1:10:58

think Herbert West gets

1:11:02

the doctor Hill head

1:11:04

and is squishing it like you

1:11:06

would a grapefruit, which makes all

1:11:08

of the other zombies go

1:11:11

nuts. before right before he starts pushing doctor

1:11:13

Hill's eyes out, he head

1:11:15

butts him. So he

1:11:17

does. Has just a

1:11:20

disembodied head and just head butts

1:11:22

it. Yep. Yes. It's like literally you could you could

1:11:24

put the script in the

1:11:26

hands of a ten year old

1:11:29

and it would make complete sense. This is a dollhouse

1:11:31

movie in that, like, you know, the way kids play with dolls or action figures of like,

1:11:34

we're having a t

1:11:36

part today. And they just well,

1:11:38

how was your day today? My day was fine. And you just in act the story makes no

1:11:43

sense. You're just playing to play. And

1:11:45

that's what this scene is. We're just watching your head over there and your body

1:11:47

over I don't know. But I'm

1:11:50

gonna come get you. Like, it's it's

1:11:52

that. level

1:11:56

but here's the thing. These are adults, these

1:11:58

are professionals who are very good at their

1:12:00

job, and yet That

1:12:02

is why I like it. Yeah. Pete, we crush out Hill's eyes. The rest of the zombies kind

1:12:04

of get they go crazy, but

1:12:06

they're Exactly. connection is broken.

1:12:11

And then what he injects doctor Hill's

1:12:14

Herbert injects doctor Hill's body

1:12:19

with highlighter juice and then the overdose.

1:12:22

The overdose, which causes

1:12:24

doctor Hill's body

1:12:27

to mutate grow tentacles or just a slower I

1:12:30

think just a slower tested, and they just become

1:12:32

spectacular and -- Yeah.

1:12:34

-- I think it becomes accentient

1:12:37

and also the gateway to the beyond.

1:12:39

Mhmm. Oh, yes. Yes.

1:12:42

Which is pretty lovecraftian.

1:12:45

if you like pump anything up

1:12:47

big enough, it like breaks through the time space continuum and the

1:12:52

old bods are watching or Cthulhu or

1:12:54

something is -- Sure. -- the the shores of Ralaya. I don't fucking

1:12:56

know. Well,

1:12:59

doctor Hollsy, Dean Hollsy gets ripped apart by the other

1:13:01

corpses as he saves Meg. And it's

1:13:03

Dan and Meg running to

1:13:06

escape. Right? So we've lost So

1:13:08

Herbert's gone. Right? Like, Herbert's -- Okay. -- done. Herbert has

1:13:10

been sucked into the another world. Into the into the other world thing.

1:13:12

So he's he's having he's having

1:13:15

tea with the the the king

1:13:18

in yellow. Yes. Right. Dean

1:13:20

Halsey has been shredded and doctor Hill

1:13:22

has been mutated into whatever Yeah.

1:13:25

Dean Halsey has literally been Oh, actually,

1:13:27

part of this. In in a very, like,

1:13:29

backlit, they, like, like, all the

1:13:32

zombies, like, take

1:13:34

a bit. They tear And in a very, like, stylish

1:13:36

sort of death. Yeah. Almost reminds me

1:13:38

of, like, there's a moment in

1:13:41

the Exorcist. That's very similar.

1:13:44

Interesting. But it's like it these

1:13:46

last fifteen minutes are such pandemonium.

1:13:48

Like, you get

1:13:51

no chance to, like, let any of

1:13:53

this land emotionally? No. Dana Megg make it to

1:13:55

the elevator, but one more court

1:13:58

of attacks. Yeah. attacks Meg. Dan's

1:14:00

unable to fight it off so

1:14:02

he runs for the fire The

1:14:05

fire acts was yep.

1:14:07

The fire acts And then he

1:14:10

managed Famous in hospitals. Famous. Yeah. Definitely. OR in the institutional

1:14:13

medical buildings. Yes.

1:14:16

And he manage

1:14:18

just to, like, chop this thing up with the

1:14:21

back arm. Chop the arm. We get one

1:14:23

shot of one last little squirming

1:14:25

hand on the elevator floor. But she is down for the

1:14:28

couch. She did. Dee Dee Dee

1:14:30

did? Well, he listen, though,

1:14:32

he starts

1:14:34

doing CPR. her just like, oh my gosh. The baby began in here before that

1:14:36

happening, rushes her to the and all

1:14:39

the doctors are there including Professor

1:14:41

McGonagall is there. McGonagall

1:14:43

is there. And he is he's

1:14:46

doing chest compressions. He's breathing. He's doing all of that. And

1:14:50

she is flat lining. and and Professor McGonagall

1:14:52

finally puts her hand on his arm

1:14:54

and says, you know, doctor Kain, no.

1:14:59

We know she didn't make it,

1:14:59

and all the doctors kind of clear

1:15:02

out time write down time at

1:15:04

death, blah blah

1:15:06

blah. But he's not

1:15:08

done. do do do doo doo doo

1:15:11

He

1:15:16

finds the highlighter formula. He takes that

1:15:18

yellow highlighter form. He's going to

1:15:20

a rave man. He is and

1:15:22

he goes right into her neck.

1:15:25

and he injects her. He injects injects

1:15:27

Meg's body with this stuff. He says, I

1:15:32

love you. and then it

1:15:34

goes

1:15:34

black and we hear her scream. The end,

1:15:38

the and the the

1:15:39

end. Goodbye. Should we

1:15:41

rate this film? Yes. Let's.

1:15:44

Okay.

1:15:44

this film On

1:15:47

a scale of one to ten.

1:15:49

I'm going, well, this is my scale of horror film approachability. Like, if you

1:15:51

don't like horror movies, on a scale of one

1:15:54

to ten with one being, like, not at

1:15:56

all approachable for

1:15:59

you and ten being super approachable even

1:16:01

if you're horror squeamish. I

1:16:03

will give reanimator two

1:16:05

failed CPR attempts

1:16:07

out of ten fair. Very fun.

1:16:09

It is so gory. It is so eighties practical effects,

1:16:11

gory, which is grocer somehow

1:16:15

than CGI gory. But

1:16:18

also, I will see this. Like, the one thing

1:16:20

that keeps me from giving it a

1:16:22

one is that it is silly. Like,

1:16:24

this movie is a dark comedy. Like, it

1:16:27

knows it silly. It's it's having fun mostly with

1:16:29

what it does. That sort

1:16:31

of takes some of the edge

1:16:33

off for me, but again, like, you brought up

1:16:35

at the beginning. Listen, this is a

1:16:38

very misogynist movie in its

1:16:40

tropes, in its portrayal of

1:16:42

when and Barbara Cranpton's doing a lot

1:16:44

of great things in this movie with

1:16:46

what she has. But that sexual

1:16:48

assault plot line is just content

1:16:51

warning is unfucking nervous. Maybe the most unnerving thing in

1:16:53

this film. So I will give this a

1:16:55

two out of ten for

1:16:57

horror approachability. What

1:17:00

about you CECL as a horror film. What did

1:17:02

you think? You know, long before I had even heard the name h p Lovecraft,

1:17:04

I saw this film.

1:17:06

And then I think later

1:17:09

you know, I I, you know, sort

1:17:11

of got literary about it. But here's the thing.

1:17:13

I think I like this movie way more than

1:17:16

I loved ever

1:17:18

reading any HP Lovecraft. You

1:17:20

know, like this, because because

1:17:23

we've talked about the beginning,

1:17:25

this taps into the Gags

1:17:27

and Googles part of me that is

1:17:29

still sixteen years old watching USA up all

1:17:31

night that loves things

1:17:36

that are competently even very well acted. The

1:17:38

script is a bit bonkers in

1:17:40

the same way that a

1:17:43

comic book script is a bit like it gives you enough information to keep

1:17:45

the plot going. Yes, it has a

1:17:47

lot of stereotypes. Yes,

1:17:50

it has some pretty thinly drawn female

1:17:52

characters. But what you do

1:17:54

get from it is some

1:17:58

amazing moments of horror

1:18:00

and some amazing moments of

1:18:02

comedy. It's it's very eighties, you know? Like it

1:18:07

really is smack in the middle of nineteen eighty five for

1:18:09

both good and bad. It's pumped

1:18:11

up to eleven. It is,

1:18:13

you know, it's it's

1:18:16

flashy trash. And

1:18:18

you know what? Sometimes that's all you want is a is a a banana's

1:18:23

insane clown car on

1:18:26

fire driving off a cliff into

1:18:29

a vad of blood. So for that, I'm

1:18:31

going to give this eight

1:18:34

out of ten bottles of highlighter fluid.

1:18:36

Perfect. Well, let's figure out what

1:18:38

movie we will watch next.

1:18:40

We will do that by

1:18:43

rolling our two dice CECL,

1:18:45

you have a scared die. I have a style die. We'll match up what we

1:18:47

roll and figure out what movie fits that. So when you roll your scared die, if you

1:18:49

roll a one, that means our next movie has to

1:18:51

feature a ghost story,

1:18:55

two accountable, three encrypted,

1:18:58

four tiny blank, five

1:19:01

into the filed or six are scarce, is

1:19:04

a vampire? What is

1:19:06

our scarce CECL? That's

1:19:07

a one.

1:19:12

Ghost story. The ghost

1:19:12

is a metaphor. So we'll match up

1:19:14

your ghost story with the style that

1:19:16

I roll. If I roll

1:19:18

a one, our style of film

1:19:21

is let's go shopping, something that takes place in a store, mall,

1:19:23

or what have you. Two, our style is what the fuck?

1:19:28

WTF. something really confounding or

1:19:30

wild bonkers. Three, film, on film. For

1:19:33

a period

1:19:36

piece. Five, a holiday movie or

1:19:38

six something with a bitching soundtrack. We're bringing that one back. Okay. Here

1:19:43

we go. I got a two

1:19:45

WTF ghost story. Oh, we've got some good

1:19:47

ones here. We've got a lot to

1:19:49

choose from on this list of ones

1:19:51

that we've picked. and

1:19:54

also some that have been suggested by

1:19:56

our letterbox followers. Great. Let us start.

1:19:58

I think a couple of these are

1:20:01

yours. Can you tell me about

1:20:03

Gothic? Okay. So Gothic is a really interesting film.

1:20:05

This is like super famous

1:20:07

British actors portraying

1:20:10

Lord Yren and Percy Shelly and Mary Shelly, the

1:20:13

night that Mary Shelly conceives

1:20:15

of Frankenstein. So all

1:20:17

the things we kinda

1:20:19

talked about today This is

1:20:22

a dramatization of that evening, but it

1:20:25

is also

1:20:28

directed by Ken

1:20:30

Russell, which if you don't know, Ken Russell is one of my favorite WTF

1:20:33

directors. Like, he

1:20:36

will put Fucking

1:20:39

anything and everything into his films.

1:20:41

So you've got like really

1:20:43

famous British actors Natasha

1:20:45

Richardson, Gabriel Byrne,

1:20:48

Julian Sands, Timothy Small, but they're all, like,

1:20:50

naked and on drugs and talking to

1:20:53

dead people. Beautiful.

1:20:56

We also this

1:20:58

sounds great. I am unaware of this film.

1:21:00

It looks really cool. Okay.

1:21:02

Evil dead two, kind of a

1:21:04

classic, fairy ghost story, fairy what

1:21:07

the fuck? kind of in a similar vein what we just watched reanimator

1:21:09

would have fit not ghost story but

1:21:11

would have fit WTF

1:21:14

pretty well. I think evil dead two is right in

1:21:16

line with a movie like that. I mean, like

1:21:19

evil dead two is also of the

1:21:21

ghouls and gags like

1:21:23

amazing practical effects taking a small

1:21:25

budget and making it stretch and being creative with a small budget.

1:21:27

And even in this case,

1:21:30

they made Evil Dead One

1:21:33

they then got a chance to like Hollywood gave them some money and they got a chance to

1:21:35

revisit, which I think, like,

1:21:40

never happens. like nobody

1:21:42

ever revisits their older work and said, you know what? Yes. The plot makes no sense.

1:21:47

Let's fix that. Yes. These characters

1:21:49

make no sense. Let's fix that. Yes. We have the budget

1:21:51

to do but

1:21:56

bigger, better, faster, stronger. So this is

1:21:58

a classic. Like, probably, if not number one,

1:22:00

probably top three

1:22:02

on everybody's list. Yeah. The

1:22:04

Beyond. Let's see. It's been a long time since I've watched the

1:22:07

Beyond, but the Beyond is a Luchier

1:22:10

Folci Italian horror film

1:22:13

about a young woman who inherits

1:22:15

a hotel in Louisiana where a bunch

1:22:17

of supernatural quote accidents -- Uh-huh. -- begin

1:22:20

to happen. And

1:22:22

also, it's it's an end of the world story because her hotel has suddenly opened the door

1:22:24

to hell. Yep. But

1:22:27

in that way that It

1:22:31

makes no sense because it's Italian, but everything is gorgeous.

1:22:33

Okay. So we also have on

1:22:35

here popcorn. Now here's a

1:22:38

movie that I have never

1:22:40

seen but his been, like,

1:22:42

as I've been combing through shutter these last few weeks, it it it keeps popping

1:22:44

up -- Uh-huh. --

1:22:47

no pun intended. Mhmm. very

1:22:50

much a horror film festival theater in which was once inside of a tragic fire, turns into a real life

1:22:56

horror show. So this is kind

1:22:58

of a combination of two movies. One, demons, which we watched and which a bunch of demons

1:23:04

lock a bunch of people in the

1:23:06

movie and make them watch their horrible movie. But then also, is it a demons or

1:23:10

is it a psycho killer I don't know, Jeffrey. I don't either. But

1:23:12

maybe it does look like a lot

1:23:14

of masks, a lot of gross

1:23:18

practical effects in this as well. It does look like

1:23:21

it could very well fit WTF.

1:23:23

Perfect. I think WTF

1:23:25

is at a ghostry though. I don't know. But

1:23:27

if the ghost is a metaphor, honestly, anything

1:23:30

is a ghost story. a

1:23:34

tale of two sisters. Now

1:23:36

this is one I don't wanna talk

1:23:39

too much about. Because it is it's

1:23:41

a mystery. This definitely a mystery tale. It's been

1:23:43

rebate into an American version, which

1:23:45

is kind of pales in comparison.

1:23:48

But it's about a

1:23:50

family, a very dysfunctional family, that has good, good, good, go,

1:23:52

haunting their cabin in

1:23:55

the woods. Yes.

1:23:59

Beautiful, stylish subtle, quiet, every single creek. This

1:24:02

is one where you have to, like, lean in

1:24:04

and when you do,

1:24:07

this movie rewards you. One

1:24:10

I put on here is phantasm. I

1:24:12

don't have you seen phantasm before? This

1:24:14

was this one I remember watching with my

1:24:16

step brother when I was younger, which is

1:24:19

this movie is so nineteen seventy eight and so

1:24:21

WTF. It's so like WTF.

1:24:23

It's arguably like one of the

1:24:25

first of the big Anthe an anthology

1:24:28

series films that just people

1:24:30

went, this low budget movie

1:24:33

is so WTFI

1:24:35

don't even know what I just watched. No. Bring me

1:24:37

more. Yeah. The tall man

1:24:40

is such a

1:24:42

terrifying figure. The crazy devices he

1:24:45

has to kill people and drill into their skulls

1:24:47

are fucking wild as shit. Just like

1:24:49

these like long shots of,

1:24:51

like, just just it's just

1:24:54

so bizarre. It's almost like an art film

1:24:56

-- Yeah. -- in its sensibilities,

1:24:58

but then definitely not an art film

1:25:01

though because it's also silly as shit.

1:25:03

Yeah. It's this is definitely fits I don't know

1:25:05

how ghost story this is, but

1:25:07

it's definitely WTF. So

1:25:11

let's get to a few suggestions from Letterbox

1:25:13

users, Brave Crab, throughout

1:25:16

City of the

1:25:18

living dead. City of the living dead.

1:25:21

So we did City of the dead, which was the

1:25:23

black and white -- Mhmm. --

1:25:25

Christopher Lee. This is a Luchio faulty film,

1:25:27

so definitely fits WTF if we're getting faulty here. Oh, yeah. Let's

1:25:29

see. A psychic participates

1:25:31

in a seance. where

1:25:34

she sees a vision of Dunwich. Here we

1:25:37

go, more vague love crafty

1:25:39

and whatever's. Priest hang

1:25:42

himself in a church cemetery

1:25:44

causing her to die a fright, a

1:25:46

New York City reporter investigates the sayouts and learns that the priest suicide, this sounds

1:25:51

all the fun of a Gianolo plot line. This

1:25:53

movie sounds great. I'm very

1:25:56

excited for that.

1:25:58

Always happy get to some Jialo directors that I don't

1:26:00

know. Another one thrown out

1:26:03

was Sarah Kendall suggested

1:26:05

thirteen ghosts, William Castle, nineteen sixty.

1:26:07

Oh, yes. This is classic. I don't know how WTF this

1:26:10

is other than just what little I

1:26:12

know of

1:26:14

William assholes work I haven't seen thirteen ghosts before. I'm

1:26:16

guessing we're going to get some,

1:26:18

like, silliness, some zaniness, the

1:26:21

campiness that comes from that. detention

1:26:24

by Paul Rich

1:26:25

not by Paul Richards suggested by

1:26:27

Paul Richards. Never heard

1:26:29

of it. I don't

1:26:32

know this movie at all. This is the

1:26:34

first I'd heard of it when Paul suggested it, but set in Taiwan. This is from twenty

1:26:36

nineteen set in

1:26:39

Taiwan during the White terror

1:26:41

period of martial law, a high school girl

1:26:43

who awakens in an empty school only to find that her entire community has

1:26:45

been abandoned except for

1:26:47

one other student. Soon

1:26:50

they realize that they have entered a realm

1:26:53

filled with vengeful spirits and hungry

1:26:55

ghosts. Well, this definitely sounds

1:26:57

WTF And it

1:26:59

sounds ghost story. It sounds like you wake

1:27:01

up. Cool. You make it you wake up in a reality versus, like, you and your next door neighbor and

1:27:03

you're like, oh, I

1:27:07

hate that dude.

1:27:10

Interesting too because it's

1:27:12

a it's a a film set in

1:27:14

Taiwan. It reference this this description says

1:27:17

it's during the white terror period of martial law, which is going to be

1:27:19

a piece of history. I don't know. Yeah. American brain does not know

1:27:22

that piece of history. And again,

1:27:24

like, know,

1:27:26

if anything, like horror, sci

1:27:29

fi and fantasy

1:27:31

often allow creators to

1:27:34

say things about difficult portions of history that you couldn't say the documentary. So I don't know, very curious.

1:27:40

Paul Richards, also suggests another

1:27:42

twenty nineteen non American film. I believe this is a movie from

1:27:45

Laos called The

1:27:48

Long Walk. The description is an

1:27:50

old lay ocean hermit discovers that the ghost of a road accident victim can transport

1:27:52

him back in time

1:27:54

fifty years to the moment

1:27:58

of his mother's painful death. Oh.

1:28:00

So this sounds very, like,

1:28:02

emotionally horrible. heavy. Yeah. This

1:28:04

sounds very heavy. Also interesting, we

1:28:07

have not watched a movie from a house on

1:28:09

this film before or on this podcast

1:28:11

before. So that also sounds really

1:28:13

interesting to me. So that is

1:28:16

the collection of films

1:28:18

that we have to choose from this time around. Okay. It's a given that I always

1:28:20

would love to

1:28:23

watch Evil Dead two. I

1:28:26

would always be happy to revisit phantasm.

1:28:28

But of the movies that I

1:28:30

have not seen here, Gothic

1:28:33

is really intriguing to

1:28:35

me. I'm really did in Gothic a whole

1:28:37

bunch. That sounds great. The faulty movies beyond and City of

1:28:39

the Living Dead both sound great.

1:28:41

I'm also really curious about detention

1:28:44

as well. Those

1:28:46

are the ones kind of leading here. don't what So Let's here.

1:28:48

I I think, you know,

1:28:50

evil. I know I know the

1:28:53

evil i know i know evil

1:28:55

dead too, but it's like I've just seen it so many

1:28:57

times -- Yeah. -- because I love

1:28:59

it so much. And the kind of

1:29:01

the opposite of that is phantasm, which

1:29:03

I don't think I've seen since I

1:29:05

was like nineteen years old. You know, like, it's very much in been a a bit

1:29:08

of a blind spot

1:29:10

for me as an adult.

1:29:13

popcorn, again, haven't seen it. It's always kind of interesting to find these. Like, I think we

1:29:15

have three Italians -- Mhmm. -- that are very

1:29:18

gonna be very similar in sensibility. And that

1:29:20

pop corn

1:29:23

to beyond and city of the living dead are gonna be very similar. They're

1:29:26

gonna light up similar things. I

1:29:28

think detention definitely

1:29:30

fits the mind fuck. WTF

1:29:34

kind of thing. Mhmm. Tale of Two Sisters is a classy, elegant ghost story.

1:29:40

Maybe WTF

1:29:42

maybe not WTF Mhmm. thing It's

1:29:44

really interesting in

1:29:47

a classic concept. the

1:29:50

pacing of this movie, girl.

1:29:55

Prepare thyself. Okay.

1:29:59

Alright. So I don't know. I don't know what to do, Jeffrey. My case for

1:30:01

enthusiasm is that it's kind of

1:30:03

fun to stick with

1:30:05

this, like, era of

1:30:08

practical effects it's pretty shlocky. It's pretty like it's

1:30:10

very nineteen seventy eight. Like, it's harder to be more

1:30:12

nineteen seventy eight seventy. Like, it's

1:30:14

hard to be more late seventy

1:30:17

than this film. Is my question though, is it

1:30:19

a ghost story? That's the problem. That's that was gonna be my

1:30:22

the thing I can't real

1:30:25

I rewatched this movie not super long ago, and I

1:30:27

don't really think it's go

1:30:31

so much as It's

1:30:34

more of a crypt keeper. There's

1:30:36

probably ghosts involved. There's undead. There's

1:30:38

like in possession of bodies, things like

1:30:41

that. But I don't know that it's a

1:30:43

ghost per se. It's the same issue I have with popcorn, which looks really fun. We haven't done a ton

1:30:45

of nineties movies, and that's a

1:30:47

nice one film. It

1:30:51

does seem a bit more,

1:30:53

like, psycho killer, Kescase.

1:30:56

Uh-huh. You know?

1:30:58

Yeah. And then detention is, like, the

1:31:00

most intriguing of the movies, these last

1:31:02

two that I hadn't even heard

1:31:04

of the ghost? Or

1:31:06

is it another, like, apocalyptic Fever Dream?

1:31:09

It is it is definitely a ghost because the the

1:31:11

last sentence of the description is these

1:31:13

two realize they've

1:31:15

entered a realm filled with vengeful

1:31:18

spirits and hungry ghosts. So it is a ghost story. It does sound

1:31:21

pretty WTF

1:31:24

it's a cool, like, foreign film. It's also, like,

1:31:26

twenty nineteen. We've had a lot of, like, twenty first century films lately -- Wow.

1:31:29

-- on the podcast. So

1:31:31

maybe we wanna stick

1:31:33

into the past a little bit more right now. Yeah.

1:31:35

And of those two the two movies beyond in City of the

1:31:38

Living Dead Coast sound -- Oh, that's

1:31:40

ridiculous. After

1:31:43

that, I think Gothic or the beyond.

1:31:45

I think those are my those are

1:31:48

my two the

1:31:52

my brackets. Of those two, I would lean toward

1:31:54

the beyond. I think that's a wise choice. Yeah. Let's do

1:31:56

it. I think this will

1:31:58

have plenty of WTF moments. for

1:32:01

us. Well, that was easy. Thank you all for listening. Thank you. CECL for talking with me. And if

1:32:03

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reanimator, or ideas for

1:32:10

other movies that would have been good ghost story meets WTF or even

1:32:12

some ideas for

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