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after the us supreme court overturned

0:58

roe versus wade the case

1:00

that protected access to abortion than

1:02

the us for the past fifty years now

1:05

that the federal ruling has been struck down

1:07

many states have already banned abortion

1:10

or are in the process of doing so

1:14

okay abortion access

1:16

to the time being anyway

1:18

on the couch

1:21

those poor women in in the middle of the

1:23

country

1:25

that they have resources are just fuck

1:32

domestic right about the country right now

1:36

season seven was an investigation

1:38

into unsolved antiabortion shootings

1:40

and canada and the us

1:43

the process i spoke to many people

1:45

who believed in access and

1:47

many who did not that i spoke

1:49

to families who are interested are interested justice

1:53

one of the follow up with some of them to see what

1:55

they thought in the wake of the supreme court

1:57

decision to overturn roe

1:59

versus wade what did it mean

2:01

for each of them what are the repercussions

2:03

for everyone and , will

2:06

the activism go where

2:08

will it refocus

2:10

i'm david written

2:13

and this is someone knows something a

2:15

season seven update episode

2:21

you think to the anti side has

2:24

thought of any of the repercussions

2:26

that may actually impinge on their

2:28

lives and their freedoms because of this choice

2:31

i don't know i made a living trying to get into

2:35

that the people i can understand

2:38

but i try to do understand people i

2:40

think i can't understand that

2:42

i no programs

2:44

or that understanding or know and what

2:46

they're thinking

2:48

or about the repercussions

2:50

for any of them have ever gonna read

2:53

trying

2:54

what i'm in our lives having an abortion

2:58

i don't know i don't know what they saw true

3:00

and i don't know that they really care

3:05

there are a lot of geological the remember

3:07

to

3:09

people get abortions i'm as country

3:11

are women that up children their mother

3:14

so it out fine childcare

3:18

you've gotta take days off and not get paid for them

3:21

is , cover the cost for transportation

3:24

i mean this sort of a logistical

3:26

and possibility right and the same states

3:28

that are people trying to criminalize leading

3:31

must state the get an abortion

3:34

criminal lives helping somebody

3:37

with the state to get an abortion

3:41

he would still viewed as they have any of that could ever

3:43

come to pass over the blast in your face

3:46

the biker sure to come to pass

3:50

some people that i've spoken to who were involved

3:53

and anti abortion violence didn't

3:55

seem to see it coming either the

3:57

games com the man convicted of murder

4:00

amanda's uncle barred slap in was

4:02

almost indifferent to the possibility

4:05

com election adderall prison

4:09

they'll never

4:11

last

4:14

stand in texas as only ten percent

4:16

of the based upon oh my

4:18

god

4:23

i think for extremists like cop

4:26

since the overturning doesn't completely

4:28

eliminate all abortions it

4:31

will never be enough i

4:33

wonder what is next for the antiabortion movement

4:36

with this in mind his

4:38

role being overturned only

4:41

a beginning

4:43

local action is work produces

4:45

national results

4:47

the course of season seven i spoke

4:49

to jamison taylor a policy strategist

4:52

in mississippi who helped that states

4:54

two thousand and eighteen abortion ban based

4:57

on a sistine week window for abortion

4:59

access

5:02

christian are is very grateful to god

5:04

frankly for allowing me to play

5:06

a small role and participating

5:10

this when i believe if

5:12

we think about how divine

5:14

providence work the donald trump slide so

5:16

that he becomes president and

5:18

we think about that the provenance working in

5:20

the lives of these different supreme court

5:22

justices so many

5:24

things came together to make this possible

5:28

to priorities are going to be working on

5:30

over the next year the first

5:32

priority is to help build

5:35

out the non profit

5:37

sector the provide additional

5:39

services to women and children

5:41

and families in crisis

5:43

getting married to pursue and amendments

5:46

you are state constitution

5:48

to protect life

5:50

you're gonna continue to see

5:53

right was in and around the

5:55

country

5:56

then again it

6:01

that people military tommy there are warriors

6:03

american soldiers and

6:05

, enough voters are there and do

6:08

what they have to do because that's

6:10

their job at warriors does lotta

6:14

love , loved applied and love the

6:16

battle i think these people

6:18

are warriors allergies nothing

6:22

like them emerges gonna say well are still

6:24

california other stole new york there's

6:26

still that they're still that i

6:29

don't feel i'm being particularly happy

6:32

the i know i don't know that it's i cannot think of

6:34

her heel clicking moment i think it's probably

6:36

more just while we got more work to do snap

6:39

to

6:40

yeah actually

6:42

the i wonder what your aunt thanks

6:45

yeah donated collar

6:47

the her

6:50

husband gave his life prevent to match

6:52

and alpes just how heartbroken

6:55

what's your back

6:58

the cat

7:00

curse

7:03

track fathom that it actually

7:05

happened to be honest with ya

7:08

the mad

7:10

then works long hours full time

7:12

and to i've reached her late in the day at home

7:16

i'm always worried my intrusions

7:18

might cause outset but lynn

7:20

seems eager to get her thoughts offer chest

7:24

this angry

7:26

i'm angry with the decision

7:28

i'm angry was just a politics

7:30

in general right now and to still ugly

7:34

no i just go back to school and learn how to do

7:36

abortions set something

7:38

up somewhere

7:41

do what i can i know i'm in a state

7:44

now thank goodness we're we're still fi

7:46

but i i

7:49

, i don't even know where to turn around

7:52

right now it's really

7:54

not tied to feel like part

7:57

almost died in vain about

7:59

really

7:59

i know it not

8:01

she

8:03

would have been mortified he just what of

8:05

no the minute i will delete all what a stop

8:08

to that not gonna sneak around and do anything

8:10

that i gotta tell ya it's just

8:12

angers me that a got to this

8:14

point

8:19

a lot

8:19

adoption process as wow

8:22

a lot of people don't know very

8:25

gratifying but just

8:28

putting somebody in crisis

8:30

moreover crisis

8:32

are you prefer you would never stop doing

8:34

it while it was legal

8:35

he would never want to patients

8:38

specific location

8:40

the have to be sent somewhere else and

8:42

time of

8:43

her to deal with this crisis

8:46

you got it would never do that to them he said

8:48

there are ready and a bad place i'm going to

8:50

send them to a stranger they

8:52

don't know

8:54

there's something so personal mcgregor

8:58

how it all started with him he just didn't wanna

9:00

put them in any more the position and make

9:02

it harder for them than it was reading

9:05

i just don't understand how this can be in

9:07

this day and age knowing what people know

9:09

about medicine and i'd be really

9:12

set up another young daughter

9:14

i really would very

9:17

very mad

9:18

that are right was taken away

9:20

you don't believe in at fine don't do a pedantic

9:23

right away from the people that

9:24

the prefer

9:26

never for you know not to get their can

9:28

him again but he never it

9:31

always a choice you made you go home immediately

9:33

dot has made you come back

9:35

the to talk to somebody recover the kind

9:37

of sailors his arrest

9:41

that even the actual abortion

9:43

itself is just the fact

9:45

that it get right was taken away

9:48

if you're never needed it just feels like

9:50

a chisel away at one more thing

9:54

i don't know

9:56

the wonder what the anger that you see i

9:58

wonder what that anger can do

9:59

where will do in the sort of days

10:02

and weeks months and years to come i i wonder

10:04

if that anger will help sustain a some

10:07

kind of change

10:08

wake people up to realize

10:10

that

10:11

crap can happen

10:15

the know it not discuss it with us for fifty

10:17

years you think it's set in stone it's not

10:20

could we have a democratic liberal

10:22

person is not doesn't mean

10:25

the

10:26

company like that i can happen one

10:30

person out of millions but

10:32

i mean

10:33

don't i don't vote

10:35

anymore these people into office

10:38

i mean i don't know how each stop this

10:40

is just a domino effect

10:42

it was relatively iceberg

10:49

good luck selection

10:50

the crucial

10:52

yeah

10:52

i target people have devout people have

10:54

to be smart they have to be up on the news

10:57

that they have

10:59

how could travel whatever fun they

11:01

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11:03

the to can travel to other places

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yeah i can afford

11:08

so that they can get safe

11:10

health care system

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go back to on people

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sorry for chase me down sorry

12:50

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12:54

the and or to assess her home in birmingham

12:57

diane at an abortion clinic owner and

12:59

owns the clinic in mississippi known as

13:01

the pink house the only clinic

13:03

in the states

13:05

have been so out of line

13:08

and or health cost a

13:10

peep out been

13:16

hurry and even for

13:18

other ashes , predominate

13:21

the press let you know cause of course everyone

13:23

wants the story and they think they should have

13:25

access to the patients may

13:28

mean i can't observations the runway was a fuck

13:30

is wrong with these athletes just god

13:33

god really they really want to talk to you right now

13:35

right now

13:38

is crazy but still it's you know

13:40

what i'm it's it is what it is

13:43

i hope that this anger continues

13:47

i'm not i'm afraid it desert

13:52

the pink house had until july six

13:56

after that the last abortion clinic in

13:58

mississippi closed it's doors diane

14:01

doesn't really sound to me like season morning

14:04

laser focused on what's to come

14:06

and making preparations for new

14:09

clinics

14:10

we're reading

14:13

last christmas right

14:16

to go on virginia

14:18

is very dizzy

14:20

the earnest picked up as soon

14:22

as projected when

14:24

was virginia where

14:26

bayern

14:29

guessing it me to say it

14:30

in other over nine eleven states

14:33

that day m s just unarmored

14:35

or even try to figure

14:37

out what that minutes and what that me and

14:39

see another woman to hit the

14:41

war in the middle of pasa had

14:43

the two or three days

14:46

going on i didn't find out

14:50

that they are so

14:52

think you've seen a lot of people you're

14:56

having a good abortion concluded

14:58

and it was closed for

15:00

them there are still states

15:03

that was be standing lol

15:06

curl up there are more looking at right now just

15:08

a birds eye view aca hard

15:11

to believe what we're in a democratic regime

15:14

or whatever the heck because democratic

15:17

that it's

15:21

all little right now

15:23

and and planning wise you

15:25

said you're opening and less cruises and i

15:28

mean is it possible that even enough

15:30

infrastructure can be built and time to

15:32

kind of accommodate

15:34

a fraction of the people that are going

15:36

to need the sir absolutely not

15:38

no absolutely not arm and when

15:40

you think about what was happening with texas

15:43

and that this fifty thousand women had abortions

15:45

they last year and what happened

15:47

when that state where those women

15:49

had five

15:50

waiting periods time to get

15:52

saying so you're

15:54

and twenty six

15:56

and

15:58

there women aren't

16:01

the trouble

16:04

no one was prepared for this neither

16:07

it's not fair

16:09

the not designed basically to make people

16:11

take too long to their own hands like as it

16:13

is this is designed to create a situation

16:16

where people are going to be

16:17

no committing a criminal act like

16:20

they cause i know

16:21

prosecutors as i can't

16:23

wait it , i just

16:25

a sister it's too late for the first

16:27

one so that they send

16:29

that message to women

16:33

long before that happened worry

16:36

, young were murdered they

16:39

either

16:40

the braggadocio as

16:42

of the out how much i work at a shit

16:44

other first the upper decision like fired

16:46

around because we have the abortion pill

16:49

when i was the abortion pill is not a panacea

16:52

and it has it's own

16:55

or rather get

16:58

that across but no one wants to listen to

17:00

that is because this group thinks

17:02

they know everything

17:05

who's leading the lose mobile

17:07

like i mean i think that they had a reversal

17:09

as a mobilizer in itself a big one but

17:12

whose following who i get it isn't the

17:14

same organizations on

17:16

the sort of pro choice i'd try to

17:18

get things going again or is it like why

17:20

this why this a sort of disorganized chaos or later

17:23

what

17:24

there isn't

17:26

, they are in a new have a clear

17:28

division between use

17:31

an old people like

17:33

me so much division among

17:35

ourselves

17:36

they're just like the rest of the country

17:39

people i mean that they've been

17:41

planning this for so many years this

17:43

is just the beginning god

17:46

helpless that mean you know i was watching

17:48

was

17:50

what happened insurrection

17:52

i mean it's on all of this

17:54

is so

17:56

get it you know it's all part of the park

17:59

the same time

18:01

the people that made this haven't had such

18:03

strategy and long term thought how

18:06

are they not thinking

18:07

the social repercussions of this

18:09

are going to affect them

18:11

like how how do they not think that they just

18:13

turn a blind eye

18:15

but now we're working on reply to

18:17

that vs people haven't heard about

18:19

that yet wait till they and

18:20

yeah

18:22

i wouldn't trade it is it

18:24

sound so that that is the

18:26

only thing i would say that's what stop the person's

18:28

a bill in jackson i'm in mississippi

18:31

many years ago because we

18:33

would definitely you're losing it until

18:36

the white

18:37

and i never

18:39

good samaritan they want

18:41

wanted to get a

18:43

adrian

18:45

that's what started you know

18:48

money talks with start

18:51

that that is definitely gonna be affected

18:53

was jealous item on on a while we're not talking about

18:56

that yet but that lot of acorn

18:58

after birth control if it's a person at the moment

19:00

that it is that expired last obvious

19:02

overture

19:05

diane is referring here to in vitro

19:07

fertilization the process of

19:10

assisting with reproduction one

19:12

concern here would be will

19:14

couples be prohibited from destroying

19:17

frozen embryos and also

19:19

will physicians be prosecuted

19:22

for embryo destruction if they

19:24

don't implants successfully

19:29

my last thing for years to take me through

19:31

say and someone doesn't have the means

19:34

the get out of

19:35

there geography get out of their location

19:38

to get an abortion

19:40

what a what happens in like take me through

19:42

the steps and somebody decides seven abortion

19:44

on saturday night

19:44

they are the luckiest woman in the world

19:48

okay it that way i went

19:50

down that money started

19:52

to meet and us for travel

19:55

how care

19:59

the internet

19:59

porsche or services

20:03

there it is a ton

20:05

of money out there

20:07

and it's just concerning it's not

20:09

oh man it's it's actually

20:11

fly we're here air

20:14

been i have access if they can believe

20:16

this day is bacon and enlisted

20:19

and there i mean season appear where it is

20:21

on that was twitter whether it's whatever

20:25

fire under orders organizations

20:27

they are that as soon as they make

20:29

that phone call someone's pulling

20:32

them pulling touch with the

20:34

fines for to go you

20:36

know that whole thing so now is the best place

20:38

for

20:39

there are woman

20:41

teenage

20:42

to get it has

20:44

people have to put their money where their mouth is

20:49

you know what david that's why they're after that's

20:51

why they're trying to get all these people

20:54

jailed frightened to death

20:56

you know that if you try to help these women were

20:59

going to get she knew was coming

21:01

with kindness and

21:04

living

21:05

this way to manage whatever

21:08

amid people who say themselves to i

21:10

will drop you were ,

21:12

up with there's a pilot program program

21:15

someone has set up where they is

21:17

a do like that dogs that are trying

21:20

to get to other stuff

21:20

for years

21:22

now this that for once

21:24

a brother

21:25

i get women

21:28

the states yeah

21:33

get very that's very encouraging to

21:35

many and i mean these

21:37

people have been working on this we

21:41

have our own the can count

21:42

and

21:46

more mature nations accordingly

21:49

for , expenses

21:51

for on at

21:55

more how to run not have that's

21:58

what i can do a abortion

22:00

this is it's time with people take

22:02

a stand

22:03

aaron

22:06

i'm in our work for i'll go

22:08

down together

22:11

well i wanted to be safe diane more power

22:13

to you but i wanted to be safe

22:16

you know what the good mouse

22:18

is the one that always

22:20

there's a way that did you know what that's available

22:23

after i've always thought that that's

22:25

the safety of that mortgage

22:29

and it should all have friends or cohorts

22:31

or our last but i didn't have them

22:34

before people

22:36

don't care about the people that have been sober

22:40

they are ordered one

22:40

it couldn't have done to walk gotta

22:43

love it right

22:44

well i think people on the socially

22:46

thankfully than there

22:48

it's been got

22:50

to talk about and it's lucky that

22:52

i never position and i'm still good enough

22:55

to that still have not learned to

22:57

keep my mouth shut and shut and this

22:59

age at all

23:00

right

23:04

okay don't well thanks so much for your time

23:06

your time want to keep any longer i know this probably

23:08

now that we've been set

23:14

i will keep in touch and

23:16

i'll also keep looking into the shootings

23:18

of canadian abortion doctors and

23:21

who might have participated in them the

23:24

shift from american federal law to

23:26

state law caused by the reversal

23:28

of row will create new

23:30

battlegrounds rhetoric and

23:33

unfortunately

23:34

my on

23:36

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23:37

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23:43

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23:45

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23:48

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