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Welcome to Stuff you missed in history
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class from how Stuff Works dot com.
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Hello, and welcome to the podcast. I'm
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Katie Lambert and I'm Sarah Dowdy, and
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we finished our Medici series a while back
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that we're still getting mail about it, about
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this illustrious, scheming clan
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of bankers and statesmen. You all really
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really love the Medici and Helen
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and Mississippi sent us a note saying you
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might be interested to hear that new Italian
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research published in the American Journal of Medicine
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shows there were at least two fewer violent
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deaths in the Medici family than previously
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thought. Wait tell me more
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so. It's pretty awesome already, but it gets
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better because the more we looked into
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those two particular deaths, that of Grand
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Duke Francesco, the first de Medici,
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and his wife, the Grand Duchess, the weirder
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it all got. And despite dying
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more than four hundred years ago, the
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couple was the subject of another recent
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scientific paper, this one published
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in the British Medical Journal, which also explored
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their cause of death, but came up
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with a different answer. So
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we'll talk more about those medical studies
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later, but first, because suspicious
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deaths are so often preceded by controversial
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lives. Our story will start in Venice
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with a beautiful young girl named
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Bianca. Bianca Capello
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was born in fifty eight to
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a noble Venetian family. She
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makes the first bold move of her life
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when she elopes with Florentine Pietro
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Buonaventuri, and they have a daughter
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together, Virginia. But she's not
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in Florence for long before she becomes
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the mistress of Francesco the First,
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and he is the son and heir of Cosimo
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the First, which makes him heir
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to the Grand Dukedom of Tuscany.
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But since Francesco doesn't want to do anything
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to mess with his chances of becoming
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Grand Duke, he and Bianca keep
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things on the downlow and he'll
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at least her husband mysteriously
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dies in fiftie mysterious
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death number one. Keep Jack of these guys.
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So really, people do not want Francesco
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to be with Bianca though everyone is
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against it, his family, his people,
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the Habsburg Emperor, and you might be wondering,
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well, what does he have to do with it? He actually
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should have some major sway since he's
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Francesco is a good grand duke and should
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be a good servant to the Emperor. It
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reminds me of Lola Montez, how
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everyone was so and did not like the
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mistress, but Francesco doesn't
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seem to care about anyone else's
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opinions. He does marry
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Joanna of Austria and becomes
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grand Duke in fifteen seventy four,
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but he sticks with Bianca. And
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just to give you a little background on Francesco,
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He's got this really, really
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weird family, but he's a pretty smart
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guy. He's not terribly interested in
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politics, unlike most medici
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we know, and he'd much prefer
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to be working on out me or patronizing
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the arts. But in case you
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think that they're very unpopular, relationship
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is the only sketchy thing going on in this family,
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and it's not at all. It's pretty
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tame, actually, because in fifteen seventy
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six, Francesco's brother Pietro
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murders his wife the same
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year that Francesco's sister is
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murdered by her husband. So, like we said,
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this family is crazy,
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and who knows, maybe after a
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few violent murders in his immediate
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family, Francesco is facing
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his own mortality. He
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needs a male heir, and so far his
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wife Joanna has only had girls.
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And we have a little note we'd
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like to make here about this being a
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choose your own ending podcast. Yeah,
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there's so many different sources that say
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so many different things about these people. It's
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really strange. It's kind of like exactly,
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and I'll try to make it clear when there's
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a lot of controversy, but this is actually
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one place. The number of chill and that
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Francesco and Joanna have together, as
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well as those children's sexes. For example,
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the excellent Medici archive, which I
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would advise any of you big Medici fans
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to check out for cool letters
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and such written by the family. The Medici
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archive has them having six girls,
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followed by one boy. Well, the American
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Medical Journal article that we mentioned his seven
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sons, which seems kind of unlikely
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since it would make the rest of the story rather
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pointless. One offspring
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we should definitely all make note of, though, is
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Murrie de Medici, who is Joanna
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and Francesco's daughter, and she closed
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out our earlier super series. She's kind
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of why these people are still famous because she's
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pretty famous. But back to our
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story, It's fifteen seventy
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six and Francesco needs a son,
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so he makes an offer. His mistress
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can't refuse. Give him a son,
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and when his sickly wife finally
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dies, he'll marry her and make
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her Grand Duchess. And according to
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Eleanor Herman very
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wonderful book Sex with Kings,
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the story proceeds in a
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rather romantic comedy like fashion
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from there. So Bianca
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knows that she won't get pregnant, or at least
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she doesn't want to risk waiting, so
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she gets an accomplice to pick out
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three impoverished, single pregnant
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women. She houses and feeds
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them through their pregnancies, telling Francesco
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she's pregnant, she's patting her clothes and
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for all you arrested Development fans
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out there, we're thinking Maggie Lizar. Two
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of the women end up having girls. We have to imagine
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Bianco would be really getting
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a little nervous here, but the third fortunately
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has a boy, which is quickly whisked
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off to the palace where Bianca goes
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into labor. Yeah,
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so they sneak the baby into the bed
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with the Dramatically in labor, Bianca
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she was apparently very good at faking
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it, and suddenly, look, Francesco,
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you have a male heir. Hooray,
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And the proud parents name their baby
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in tone eo and no one's really
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the wiser. But in a turn
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that had to have shaken Bianca, who
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has gone to all this trouble and probably considerable
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expense housing these women. Not
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long after Antonio is born, Joanna
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finally has a son, Felippo. But
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Joanna dies pretty soon after that,
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and Francesco at last marries
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his mistress only two months after his
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wife dies. Not a classy move. No in
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the secret ceremony, he makes it public.
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A year later, he crowns her at the
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Palazzo Vecchio. And the people didn't
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like this couple when it was just a grand duke and
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his mistress. They really really don't
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like that Bianca is now grand Duchess
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and this may be the best part
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her position secure. Bianca
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eventually fesses up to Francesco
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about this baby swap, calling it
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a fun joke she's played on him.
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She's like him, happy, not trying to deceive
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him or anything. But isn't it hilarious
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ha ha? How we got this baby? But
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surprisingly there isn't that big of a deal made
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of it. He already has a son, But
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then his son with Joanna dies and
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Francesco legitimizes his
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son with Bianca on October
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nineteenth fifty three and
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starts paving the way for him to become
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his heir. And again, the seriously sounds
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like a romantic quick romantic comedy,
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So it's not going to
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be a romantic comedy for the rest of the story. Sorry,
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folks, it's time to get back to the controver drama
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is a trauma. Ultimately, obviously
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Francesco's real heir, who is his brother.
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Cardinal Ferdinando is
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not so thrilled about this development,
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and he's not a fan of Bianca. Pretty
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much no one is, and he doesn't
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want this mistress's son taking
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his place. So when Ferdinando visits
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the couple at the Medici villa at
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Poggio, the
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couple falls ill only a few weeks
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later, and people are kind of
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suspicious after all the Medici
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and then the medicine, and they don't really like each other.
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Eleven days later, Francesco and
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Bianca are both dead and Ferdinando
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is the new grand Duke, not his
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young nephew Antonio. But
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we have to go back to that amazing
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baby swap story. There's
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another theory about that. Most
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sources agree that Antonio was probably
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swapped as an infant and bore no relation
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to either parents, so it's
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not terribly surprising that he wasn't able
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to succeed his father's throne as a boy.
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He's a commoner's bastard. But
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biographer Philipo Luti challenges
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that story. He suggests that
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it was Ferdinando who concocted the tail
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as a way to secure his own hold on
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the throne. So he lied
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to little Antonio and said that
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he was swapped as a baby, and he wasn't the real
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heir, but perhaps he was, so
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Lutie's theory goes like this, Worried
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that he had been supplanted, his air
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Cardinal Fernando poisons Bianca.
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Immediately after Frencho goes death, and
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he takes the grand ducal throne and
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persuades his boy nephew that
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he's not really a medicie at all,
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and to play NICs. He gives the child major
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properties, convinces them to join
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the Knights of Malta, which, interestingly
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enough, is a group where members are unable
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to form legal marriages, so you would you
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wouldn't have to worry about him having some descendants
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of his own. So this
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sounds pretty plausible, I think.
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But on the other hand, so does the story of the
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mistress who would try to pass off a baby
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as her own to secure her position
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and become Grand Duchess. And
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just to give you a little more on Antonio's
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life, after fighting the Turks and
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Hungary, he goes on to play medici
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patron in Florence, supporting
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Galileo and eventually alienating himself
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from the court. So that's the end
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of the story for our basket baby. But
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we need to go back to Ferdinando,
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Francesco, and Bianca
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and the medical controversy that surrounds
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their death. So Francesco and Bianca
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die within hours of each other in October
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seven. They have this agonizing
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illness that stretches on for days. They
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undergo immediate autopsies, and
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the official cause of death listed
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at the time it is malaria.
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So it's not long before
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whisperings of poison start at court,
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especially considering how much everyone
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knows Ferdinando dislikes Bianca
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and wants the throne for himself. So this
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is an old theory, the poison theory,
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and it's and then investigated in a lot of
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different ways over the years. In two
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thousand six, scientists at the
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University of Florence and the University
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of Pavia published a paper
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for the British Medical Journal. It
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said that malaria was not in fact
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the cause of death and brought back this
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idea that the couple died of
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acute arsenic poisoning. Their
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paper starts with some observational
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evidence. Cardinal Ferdinando acted
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strangely while the couple was ill. He
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dominated their medical care. He played down
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his brother's illness, spinning it as the result
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of poor eating habits and Bianca's
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as grief. He tried to isolate
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the couple and ordered immediate autopsies,
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which was normal for someone in Francesco's
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position, but not for Bianca.
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And they then move on to the historical
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records of the illness and the autopsies
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and the symptoms recorded by doctors
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sound a lot like arsenic poisoning.
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They don't sound like malarial fever. According
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to the British Medical Journal. The autopsies
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also look a lot like arsenic poisoning, and
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they make note of Francesco's exhamation,
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which happened centuries after his death.
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Is noted at the time how well preserved
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his body was. Arsenic can desiccate
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the body before and after death, setting
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it up for almost a state
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of momification. And another
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thing of note, the most popular
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poison in the medici era is
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white arsenic. I love that this is even mentioned
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in a medical journal paper. It's kind of great.
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But finally, after studying bone,
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hair, and tissue samples from Francesco
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and tissue samples believed to be from Bianca,
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Bianca didn't get a very well marked
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grave, the Steady found
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evidence of acute arsenic poisoning
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in the samples and concentrations
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in the soft tissue were really high,
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while concentration in the bone and hair were
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low. And that's probably because
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if they did dive arsenic poisoning, it happened
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really quickly, not enough time for
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the arsenic to set into their bones
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and grow out through their hair. But
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in June, another scholarly
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paper came out, the one published in the American
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Journal of Medicine that we mentioned earlier, that
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was sent to us by Helen and
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For this study, the scientists wanted to
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see if the rumors of poison and the
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earlier b MJ study were off and
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find out if the real cause of death was the
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one made by court physicians malaria,
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which was a disease prevalent in central
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Italy until World War Two. They
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obtained a cancelous bone from
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one of Francesco's vertebra because
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they didn't get any from Bianca.
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As negative controls, they use samples
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from Francesco's family members, Calls the
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First, who died of pneumonia, and Joan
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of Austria who died in childbirth.
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Their other negative controls were from medieval
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bones outside of malarial regions
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um parts of Germany and France. And
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they found the presence of malaria
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in Francesco's samples and
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none in the others. And they're pretty confident
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about their conclusion. They say
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quote that with the use of modern
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methods, we provide robust evidence
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that Francesco the First had false
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a param malaria at the time of his
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death. Are immunologic results
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confirm the archival sources that
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describe the onset, course and fatal
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outcome of the disease. Our findings
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also absolved Fernando the First
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from the shameful allegation of being
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the murderer of his brother and sister in
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law. So, like
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we said, this is a choose your own ending podcast.
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I think it's so fascinating that
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too respected medical
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journals have put out food. I
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know, I wonder if it is a feud Americans
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versus the Brits. Just that so many people are
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actually doing studies on these
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people who died hundreds of years ago.
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It's fascinating. So choose your
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own ending, indeed, and let us know what you
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think. And that brings us to some
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really fantastic listener mail. So
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this edition of Listener Meal involves presents,
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making it a super exciting edition
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of Listener Meal indeed. And this
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is CC in Australia and she sent us
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these amazing cand knit
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animals. They're so cool. Katie
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got a narwhale and I
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got an awful lot, and she wrote I
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instructed them both to be on their best behavior
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and not fight on the journey from Australia
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to you. They I think they did all right.
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You would not want to fight with my narwhale. That
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tusk is pretty intense. My awful lot
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has closed eyes, and I was
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thinking c C probably
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left these clothes though, that he wouldn't
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get injured on the way. And we named
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them after things that have come up in our recent
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podcast. My narwhale is
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named Zara from our episode on
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the Crusades, and my awful is
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named Antonio after today's
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basket baby Medici because he
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showed up on my desk the same day this podcast
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was initiated, So
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a big, big thank you to c C.
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