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Hello and happy Saturday. As
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we promised last week, today we are concluding
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the story of Catherine de Medici, including
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her connection to the St. Bartholomus Day
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massacre. Look forward to Catherine
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coming up again on our new episodes of
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the show this week as well, And if you're
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interested in hearing the other episodes that are referenced
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in today's show, we'll have a link to all
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the Medici episodes from both this super
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series that these two episodes were part of and
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from later hosts will have that in the show notes
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of today's episode.
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Welcome to Stuff you missed in History
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Class from how Stuff Works dot Com.
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Hello, and welcome to the podcast. I'm
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Katie Lambert and I'm Sarah Dowie. And
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when we left Katherine de Medici in our previous
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podcast, she was a grieving
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widow. Her husband had just been killed
0:56
in a jousting accident, a terrible
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jousting accident which going to take the opportunity
1:01
to relive one more time. He
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receives a lance in the eye
1:06
through the brain and it takes him ten
1:08
agonizing days to die. So
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that's where we left off and it's where we're gonna
1:13
pick up again. I can see why you want to relive up
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Sarah. She's left as regent
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for her sickly weak minded
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fifteen year old son, Francis
1:22
the second, who ended up married to
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Mary, Queen of Scott's which connects our
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meta cheese series to our Tutor
1:29
Stuart series, which that's the key, that's why this is
1:31
a super series which we've been so
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excited about. Um. But
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Catherine replaces her cheery personal
1:38
symbol of a rainbow with that of a broken lance.
1:41
She starts wearing exclusively black
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morning attire, usually with a white
1:46
ruff to set it all off for the rest
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of her life, for the rest of her life. And and she
1:50
gets to work, and she effectively rules
1:52
France through three successive
1:55
sons who are a king until she dies just
1:57
shy of seventy years old. But don't
2:00
think there wasn't any trouble, because
2:02
there definitely was. The first
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son, Francis, didn't live very long
2:06
at all. He died at sixteen, and
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he was succeeded by his ten year old brother,
2:11
who became Charles the Ninth. And
2:13
Catherine took this opportunity to seize
2:16
full control of the regency using
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her very excellent scheming
2:20
skills to remain in control of her
2:22
kid amid these jostling factions
2:24
in France. Yeah, and she promotes him to
2:26
majority at age thirteen, which is
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a year earlier than normal. But she
2:31
she wanted a real king
2:34
of France because these factions
2:36
were so contentious at this time. And
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she takes him on a grand progress
2:40
of the country and it's a big deal. It's twenty eight
2:43
months of traveling, moving between
2:45
chateau and tents and taking barges
2:48
and horses and having all these elaborate
2:50
festivals and banquets. And Catherine
2:53
is kind of an elaborate lady. Anyways. We learned
2:55
in Leonie Frieda's book Um
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Catherine de Medici, Renaissance Queen of France,
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that she keeps bears in her
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retinue. And you know how much Katie and I love bears,
3:04
but a woman after and these
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are kind of sad bears though they have pierced
3:08
noses and their their chain to
3:10
her leader, but they follow her around. I mean,
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how crazy is that She's
3:15
also got a monkey a parent, and
3:17
an entire household of dwarves
3:20
who are brocades and fur and have
3:22
their own footman and tutors, which they
3:25
all hang out with her constantly. But
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the point of this tour is is not just
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to to show off and show off
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how magnificent the crown is,
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but to have the king meet and
3:36
mingle with his people, and to keep
3:38
the nobles entertained, keep them away
3:40
from their their country houses where
3:42
they could, I don't know, cook up
3:44
plans against the monarchy, and
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um just try to bring the country back together.
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And she's hoping that everyone
3:51
will ultimately rally around the king
3:53
and rally together for France. And
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this is something the country really needs
3:58
at the time, right because when Henry
4:00
the Second died, he'd had the personal
4:02
loyalty of all of their nobles, and
4:05
once he was gone, the country is split
4:07
again by feuding noble factions.
4:09
Each of them wants control of this
4:11
young king. Yeah, they're loyal to the crown
4:14
still, but they don't have that personal loyalty
4:17
that they had to the to
4:20
Charles and Frances before him, to
4:22
their father. So the principal
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nobles we're going to keep an eye on here are
4:27
the Geese family and they are the
4:29
ultra Catholics. And then there's
4:31
the Bourbon family, who are princes of the blood,
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which makes them, uh, the
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second family in France after the royal
4:38
family itself, and the Bourbons
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are Protestant. So just remember
4:43
those two sides throughout this whole
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thing, and the issues between
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these two groups of nobles are
4:49
also representative of religious
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issues in the country as a whole. So
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we're gonna give you a little background on that to make
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it easier to understand. Yeah,
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the Reformation, of course got it start
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in fifteen seventeen, two years before
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Catherine was even born, um, when
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Luther posted his ninety five theses,
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and then the zealous Protestant John
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Calvin is largely responsible for
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spreading the new religion in France.
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Um. And just to get a scale
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of how quickly things happen here,
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by the fifteen fifties we have the first
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French Reformed churches, so this
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takes off from forty years
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for the whole thing. And Catherine's husband,
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Henry the Second, who as we learned in our previous
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podcast, was obsessed with his
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foreign wars, was a little bit
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too distracted to deal adequately
5:36
with these religious fractures, and he also
5:38
underestimated them and their power. And
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then you know, right after he made his foreign
5:43
peace. He died with a lance in his eyes, so that
5:45
cut that short anyways, definitely. So
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we're left with these weak child
5:50
kings and Catherine trying to patch
5:53
everything up, patch up these feuding
5:55
nobles and country
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split by religious difference
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is and she's trying to protect her children's
6:02
throne. She's trying to defend
6:04
her own religion. She's a Catholic of course, and
6:07
deal with the factions, and she can't please
6:09
everyone. Nobody can juggle all of that.
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And contrary to Catherine's
6:14
later reputation as this crazed
6:17
ultra Catholic whose intent on spilling
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Protestant blood, would like to do
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a little myth busting here, because she really
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strived for moderation whenever
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she could, and she granted freedom of conscience
6:29
and limited access to worship, which
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was a big, big deal. It's basically
6:33
separating sedition from heresy,
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and no one is happy. Still. The
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Catholics think she's capitulating or
6:41
maybe she'll even become a Protestant
6:43
horror of horrors, and the Huguenots
6:45
think that it's still not enough. Yeah. So
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it's weird though, because this piece that she
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tries to establish the freedom of conscience
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and the limited access to worship is
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what we end up with decades later,
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after nine civil wars of her
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jen Um, you end up with the
7:02
same thing. It's crazy. But
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that's not to say that her reputation
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for Florentine tactics,
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which by we mean murdering people and
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interest in the occult, wasn't deserved,
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because even though she was a devout Catholic,
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she relied heavily on medici,
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astrologers, magic, and her own
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dream visions another podcast theme.
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She had consultations with Nostradamis,
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but her main astrologers were the Florentine
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Ruggieri brothers, who were magicians,
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necromancers, and men who
7:33
are known for being very skilled in the black
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arts. And just this weird magic
7:38
mirror story that Catherine supposedly
7:41
shortly after her husband died, she
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um. She consults one of the Ruggieri
7:46
brothers. Um wants to have
7:48
him foretell her son's futures,
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and in this mirror he pulls out,
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she sees her son's faces circling
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by, and Ruggieri tells her that
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each circle they make will
8:00
stand for how many years they'll rule the kingdom.
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She sees Francis go by once, her second
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son, Charles the Knight, goes by fourteen
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times, and then her third son, who
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is later Henry the Third, goes by
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fifteen times. In the final faith
8:14
she sees is Henry, Prince of Navarre.
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So it's really spooky and kind of
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a bad uh, a bad
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omen for Catherine. She also
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had a guy in her life, Metro Renee,
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who mixed up potions
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for her and supposedly poison
8:31
gloves and poison rouge. And
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although it's likely that Catherine had
8:36
people taken out, you know, had her own little hit list,
8:38
she probably didn't poison any fellow
8:41
queens with poison gloves. But this
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is the kind of stuff that earns her her nickname
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the Black Queen. And that
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massacre were about to discuss,
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Yeah, that's a really big part of it. We're
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gonna set the stage for the massacre. While
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there are eventually nine wars of religion
9:06
in France at the time of the massacre, which
9:09
is in fifteen seventy two, we've only had
9:11
three so far, and the wars
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have polished off the main Bourbon
9:15
Protestant leaders, leaving two
9:17
young princess figureheads. And
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that's the Prince de Conde and
9:22
Henry of Navarre, who we've already mentioned
9:24
um and Catherine has just arranged
9:26
a peacemaking marriage kind of I
9:29
think, uh the Yorks and the Lancasters
9:31
sort of like that, between Henry
9:33
of Navarre and her daughter Margaret, who is
9:35
known as Margot. And this
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marriage is going to unite the Vala
9:40
family, the royal family with the Bourbons,
9:43
so that's uniting the senior in the
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junior branches of the royal line.
9:47
And it's also going to unite the Catholics and the
9:50
Protestants, because of course Margot
9:52
is a Catholic, Henry of Navar is a Protestant.
9:54
So it's this great um
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symbol of peace and goodwill,
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and thousands of people are going to come
10:01
into Paris, nobles, regular people
10:04
of both religions to see
10:06
the nuptials. And we
10:08
have another important player in
10:10
this setup. Since the Bourbon Huguenot
10:13
leaders are dead, we have a guy named
10:15
Admiral Gaspar, the second Coligni,
10:17
at the head of our movement. He
10:20
had just returned to court about a year
10:22
earlier and had begun currying
10:24
favor with the king, and
10:26
his uncle had been a great trusted
10:29
adviser to Henry the Second.
10:31
So yes, so guess Bar's
10:33
idea is that maybe he can take on a
10:36
similar role with Charles the Ninth,
10:38
who, as a young man, is starting
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to get ready to take on more responsibility,
10:43
take over some of it from his mom and
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upstage his younger brother's glamorous
10:48
military reputation. So Gaspar
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has a plan, and he's hoping
10:53
that it will bring him personally
10:55
closer to the king, but he's also
10:57
hoping that it will give the Huguenots
10:59
more recognition, more rights,
11:02
more respect in France. And the plan
11:04
is to take French Catholics
11:06
and French Huguenots and together
11:09
fight the Spanish in the Netherlands.
11:11
And the wedding ceremonies that are going
11:13
on in Paris offer the perfect opportunity
11:16
for Gaspard to discuss
11:18
this plan with Charles and to
11:20
try to get his approval. But unfortunately
11:23
for him, Coligni is very
11:26
unpopular with the other members of the
11:28
court. The very Catholic Gee
11:30
family doesn't want war with Spain
11:32
and they hate Collini because they consider
11:35
him responsible for a murder
11:37
in their family, the murder of Francois
11:39
de Guise ten years earlier, and
11:41
Catherine doesn't want war with Spain either. She thinks
11:43
it could be disastrous, and she doesn't
11:46
like Collini's influence on her son.
11:48
So this isn't just a religious
11:51
issue. It's a it's a mixture of
11:53
personal vendettas and political
11:56
problems. But going into this, we
11:58
have two things happening, this big marriage
12:00
between Margot and Henry and the arrival
12:03
of Coligny to attend the wedding and discussed
12:06
the plans for the war against Spain. So
12:09
Catherine had long banned the
12:11
Geezes from enacting their revenge
12:13
on Collini for this murder.
12:15
He may not even have been involved by the way
12:17
his name got roped into it, and yeah,
12:20
he probably didn't have much to do with it. But
12:22
then she lifts this band so he's
12:24
basically back on a possible hit list,
12:27
and approves the plan to
12:29
assassinate him the day after the
12:31
wedding ceremonies end, So
12:33
we have a brief interlude here of
12:36
the happy peacemaking wedding.
12:38
On August fifty two,
12:41
Margot and Henry Nvar marry outside
12:43
of Notre Dame, and then she has a mass
12:45
inside with her brother by proxy
12:48
because of course Henry, as a Protestant,
12:50
cannot take part in a mass, and
12:53
she wears an ermine trimmed crown
12:55
and a coat with a thirty ft train. We just thought
12:58
we'd throw in a few we like fashion details
13:00
before things get really bloody here. And
13:03
the festivities gone for days, you know, kind
13:05
of like the wedding we talked about earlier
13:07
of Henry the Second and Catherine Um
13:10
just grand festivities, days
13:12
and days of them, and Colleeny
13:14
himself isn't a big party or so, he's
13:17
not really taking part in a lot of this celebration,
13:20
and he doesn't even really want to be there. In fact,
13:22
his wife's just had a baby. But he's
13:24
hanging around so that he can talk to the king
13:27
about this Spanish expedition
13:29
he'd like to get going, and he's becoming
13:32
increasingly angry because Charles
13:34
keeps putting him off and putting him off, and
13:36
eventually he warns him that they might soon
13:39
be discussing civil war rather
13:41
than foreign war if he doesn't get his
13:43
meeting, and he also
13:45
hears the plot might be hashing. I mean, you
13:48
know, word is going to spread in these times, but
13:50
it doesn't bother him too much. He's gonna
13:53
stick around in Paris because he really wants
13:55
to talk to Charles. So Friday
13:57
August the celebrations
14:00
end and Coligny is out on a walk
14:02
when the gee assassin strikes
14:05
and it's a shot from a window above
14:07
the street, but right at that
14:09
moment, Colony bends down to
14:11
adjust his shoe, so the shot
14:14
misses him. It just strikes his
14:16
arm, breaks it and almost shoots off his
14:18
finger, but he's not killed. There's
14:21
a lesson there, maybe to always tie
14:23
your shoe, I'm not sure. But the Huguenots,
14:26
of course, are enraged by this
14:28
incident, and Charles, who didn't know about
14:30
it, promises that he'll find the parties
14:32
involved, not realizing of course,
14:34
that his mother is behind it. And
14:37
remarkably, Coligny stays
14:39
in town instead of leaving, which
14:41
I would have done, because he trusts Charles
14:44
and trusts that he'll figure this
14:46
out and set things right, believes him well,
14:48
and fleeing would have been a huge insult
14:50
to the King once he asked him to stay. And
14:52
by this point too, things are starting to
14:55
get kind of scary in Paris.
14:57
The Huguenots are obviously
15:00
furious that their leader has
15:02
had this assassination attempt, and
15:04
the Catholic Parisians are starting to get
15:06
kind of angry too. I think they're tired of
15:09
the Huguenots being around. This party has
15:11
gone on too long by this point.
15:14
But Catherine's involvement in this
15:16
failed assassination attempt cannot
15:19
be found out, so she meets
15:21
with nobles secretly to determine
15:23
what to do next, and their decision
15:26
is to kill all of the Huguenot nobles
15:29
and captains who are still
15:32
in Paris, which makes you wonder how
15:34
they came to such a radical decision.
15:36
And this is where things get a
15:38
little bit dicey. Historically, supposedly
15:41
the Royalists, you know, Catherine and her
15:44
nobles, had heard that the Huguenots
15:46
were about to attack them, so
15:48
in order to avoid a coup,
15:50
they decide, okay, well will attack first.
15:53
But later historians have said that it's probably
15:56
unlikely there was a major Protestant
15:58
coup in the works this time, although
16:01
I watched an interesting video from
16:04
historian Barbara at Diefendorff at Boston
16:06
University, and she said it didn't
16:08
really matter if
16:11
the Protestants were actually going to stage a coup
16:13
or not. Just the fact that Catherine
16:15
and the other nobles thought it might happen
16:18
was enough to to warrant their
16:20
strike in their eyes at least. And
16:22
this is there. Let me think about it. You have all
16:25
of the powerful Huguenots in your
16:27
own capital, some of them them are staying in
16:29
your own palace to love, and
16:32
in a few days they're all going to go home, back
16:34
to their own palaces, maybe
16:37
raise their own armies. If they're planning a coup,
16:40
it's the time to strike. This is reminiscent
16:42
of the Pozzi conspiracory reminiscing.
16:45
Okay, so they've made their decision, but
16:47
they need the king's approval to go through
16:50
with it. And they break to him that actually
16:53
they were behind the plot the whole time and
16:55
convince him that the Huguenots are about
16:57
to try to pull this coup. And he's
17:00
basically bullied into giving
17:02
his assent to execute a select
17:05
list of people to kill, and
17:08
he supposedly says kill them all, kill
17:10
them all, or maybe one of the geezes
17:13
says that later as a
17:15
direct quote of the king. But um,
17:18
we should emphasize that his
17:21
ascent is to kill the people on the
17:23
list, and just the people on the it's
17:25
not consent to the massacre that
17:28
ends up happening. The
17:37
killings are planned for the early morning
17:39
on St. Bartholomew's Day, August, and
17:42
they're to be carried out by the King's royal
17:45
bodyguards and GIS troops. At
17:47
the same time, militiamen would be guarding the
17:49
city's gates and barges would block
17:51
the sin so they're shutting off the city,
17:54
and the signal would be the three am bell
17:56
of the Palais de Justice. But the
17:58
massacre starts and it earlier when a
18:00
bell rings out from a different church,
18:03
and the first one to be killed is COLLEENI,
18:06
one of the first major major
18:08
leaders, and he's very disdainful
18:11
of his Geese guard assassin.
18:13
He says, I should at least be killed
18:15
by a gentleman and not by this boar,
18:18
and then he's run through with the sword thrown
18:20
out the window, alive and later beheaded,
18:23
and at the louver there's all out
18:26
slaughter going on. Henry of Navarre had
18:28
woken up early. He couldn't sleep, decides
18:31
to play a little game of tennis with his friends
18:33
while he waits for Charles to wake up, and
18:35
on the way to the tennis courts, he and his friends
18:37
are stopped by the King's men
18:40
and separated. His companions are probably
18:42
all taken away and killed immediately,
18:45
but Navarre is locked up with his cousin,
18:47
the Prince of Conde, for safety.
18:49
These two are going to be spared. They're not going to be killed
18:52
in this massacre of Protestants. The
18:55
Huguenots staying in the palace are dragged
18:57
from their beds and have their throats slit.
19:00
Some try to hide some time to run
19:02
in the courtyard, but they're shot down by archers
19:04
or pushed toward the line of Swiss
19:07
guards. And a sad note
19:09
about katherine daughters Margot Um.
19:11
She's now, of course, the wife of a Huguenot,
19:14
and she's in the middle of all of it. Yeah,
19:16
her sister had tried to warn
19:18
her something was going on, didn't give her details
19:21
of the plot, but had begged her
19:23
mother to let Margot stay with them for
19:25
the night, and Catherine wouldn't
19:27
allow it because she figured if her if
19:29
her daughter didn't return to the Huguenot
19:32
apartments Um, the Protestants
19:34
might realize something was up. So yeah, Margot
19:36
is in the middle of all this. She's actually in bed
19:39
when one of her husband's men
19:41
comes running in covered in
19:43
blood and clings to her for dear
19:45
life being pursued you know, by
19:48
an assassin right behind him. The guy actually
19:50
spares his life, and Margot
19:52
personally petitions for a couple more
19:55
of her husband's men. But
19:57
by five am, nearly all
19:59
of the major French Protestants
20:02
have been killed, so the list has
20:04
been killed by five By five am,
20:07
but the killing doesn't stop with
20:09
the list. The rest of the populace
20:11
gets involved. Lots of French
20:13
Protestants have brought their families into
20:15
town for the wedding and they can't escape.
20:18
Their homes are rated, their children are killed,
20:20
their bodies are thrown in the river, and
20:23
personal issues that have absolutely nothing
20:25
to do with religion were also settled in the chaos.
20:27
Because if everyone's getting killed,
20:30
who's going to know? If you kill your creditor,
20:33
or your enemy or your wife, it's
20:35
a good time to take care of things.
20:37
Nobody will notice. Um. So
20:40
Charles obviously was not intending
20:43
for this level of bloodshed
20:45
to happen, and he asks the people of Paris
20:47
to please stop, and they
20:49
don't. It goes on for three days, and
20:51
then it spreads to the provinces, where
20:54
it goes on until October. And Katie
20:56
and I were talking about what sort of message
20:58
would that be. You have a guy
21:01
rides out and says they're killing everyone in Paris,
21:03
you should do that where you are. We're not sure how
21:06
that works. The final tally is
21:08
a bit up in the air. A Catholic apologist
21:10
puts it at only two thousand, a Huguenot
21:13
puts it at seventy thousand, but it's
21:15
likely that there were at least three thousand
21:17
people killed in Paris alone, and
21:19
a few senior Huguenots do manage
21:22
to escape. A few people have decided that
21:24
they might want to move their quarters across
21:27
the river, you know, just in case trouble
21:29
broke out between all the Catholics and
21:32
all the Huguenots that were in Paris at once,
21:34
and a few of them ended up being
21:37
able to escape, and uh
21:39
they were the seeds for new
21:41
rebellion. So the aftermath
21:44
is that the Valvois cannot get
21:46
their story straight about
21:48
what happened. Charles is telling contradictory
21:51
tales to the Protestants,
21:53
he says that it was a popular uprising
21:56
organized by the Geese. You're just a personal vendetta,
21:59
y'all. And then to the Catholics,
22:01
he says it was something that he specifically
22:03
ordered to prevent a conspiracy against
22:06
the crown. But of course some
22:08
Catholics, like Philip the Second in Spain
22:10
and the Pope in Rome see
22:13
it initially as oh, great France
22:15
has finally started a religious war,
22:18
and they're really happy.
22:20
Philip even does a little jig supposedly,
22:22
which seems very unlike him.
22:25
Um. But they realized pretty
22:27
quickly that no, it wasn't a religious
22:29
for it was politically motivated, and
22:32
stop being so congratulatory.
22:35
And many Protestants had
22:37
been sticking to the line that they were loyal
22:39
to the king, thinking that
22:41
he just had bad advisors, that it wasn't him.
22:44
But now they decide that they can't be loyal
22:47
to the man who accepts responsibility
22:49
for the massacre, understandably, and
22:51
the Huguenots throw off Calvin's views
22:53
towards royal allegiance, which makes
22:56
rebellion justifiable. Now, so
22:59
we have the is pamphlet battle that begins
23:01
too, and this is probably must of the engravings
23:04
you've seen. Maybe Catherine standing there
23:06
in black over piles of dead babies.
23:08
This is from this time period, and Charles
23:12
is depicted as a maniacal king who
23:14
laughed when he watched his people killed
23:17
from his window. Or maybe he's
23:19
this emotionally disturbed man
23:21
who is manipulated by his foreign
23:23
mother, who's the Black Queen, and
23:26
who is not just foreign, she's Italian,
23:28
which makes it doubly bad.
23:31
So ultimately we just have these caricatures
23:33
of these people instead of who
23:36
they really were, and Catherine de Medici has retained
23:38
this reputation throughout much of history.
23:41
Charles was haunted by the massacre,
23:43
actually and chronically ill. He died
23:45
soon afterward, and his brother became
23:48
Henry the Third, and Catherine,
23:50
always involved in her children's
23:52
lives, continues to promote
23:54
her son's thrown This is her favorite son too,
23:56
by the way, and mainly her
23:59
role for since he is a full grown
24:01
man, is to rein him in from
24:03
his kind of dangerous inclinations sometimes.
24:05
But she dies in fifteen eighty
24:08
nine, and eight months later he's
24:10
murdered by a deranged
24:13
friar and he dies
24:15
without children. So the crown
24:18
goes to a junior branch of
24:20
the family, the Bourbons, and his
24:22
cousin, Henry of Navarre. Henry the Fourth,
24:25
he was the groom at the pre massacre
24:28
wedding festivities, who's married to
24:30
Margot Valvois. But Margot
24:32
and Henry, who were never interested
24:34
in each other in the first place, to be honest, ultimately
24:36
annul their marriage, which allows Henry
24:39
to make a new match, and with this
24:41
new wife he goes on to found
24:43
the Bourbon line of kings that ends nearly
24:45
two hundred years later with Louis
24:48
the sixteenth and the French Revolution. And
24:50
who is his wife, Marie de Medici.
24:53
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