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Happy Saturday, everybody. We have
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had several requests recently
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to re release our previous podcast
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on ignance Semialviss and his hand
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washing advocacy. In
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case you missed it, several vice was the
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subject of a Google Doodle on March with
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an accompanying animation on how to
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properly wash your hands. This
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episode that we're playing today originally came out
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on March twenty one.
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Yeah, we usually reserve Saturday
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classics for things that are a little older, but
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since so many people asked, here, we go
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enjoy. Welcome
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to Stuff you missed in History class a
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production of I Heart Radio. Hello,
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and welcome to the podcast. I'm Tracy
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V. Wilson, and I'm Holly fry So
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Holly, I think a lot of people take
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for granted the idea that you need to
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wash your hay hands to prevent disease.
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Yes, but also some people discounted
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well, and there's also a lot
1:07
of research that even though this is a pretty
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ubiquitous and standard idea, a lot of
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people don't actually wash their
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hands nearly as much as they should. But regardless
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of all of that, it was not taken
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for granted in nineteenth century Europe,
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including among doctors, that you needed to
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wash your hands to prevent disease. And today
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we are going to talk about Ignaz Semmel
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Vice. He was one of the people who made
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this connection between hand washing and
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disease prevention. The disease
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that he was preventing was childbed fever, and
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even though it was not taken seriously
1:39
at the time, like people wrote him off entirely,
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today he's known as everything from the father
1:45
of infection control and the savior
1:47
of mothers and the conqueror
1:49
of childbed fever, which
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is a lot of, I mean, very lofty
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pronouncements. And he did do amazing work,
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but it did not last past his lifetime.
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Uh. This episode Also, to be clear, it's
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about medicine in nineteenth century Europe
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and to a lesser extent in North America. And
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we're definitely aware that religions and cultures
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all over the world have their own practices about
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everything from handwashing to delivering
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babies. It is not about that at
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all. This is not a global overview of hand
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hygiene and how it relates to medicine. We're really
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looking at how the practice
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of obstetrics and formal medical training
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collided in the eighteenth and nineteenth
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centuries, and this is also a
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listener request we've gotten from several
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people, including Margaret tom
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and Ashley. Child bed
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fever, also known as pure pearl fever,
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is a postpartum infection of the uterus
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or the vaginal canal, and it's often
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caused by a streptococcal infection, but
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it can come from other pathogens as well. Today,
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these infections are largely preventable through
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hygiene and infection control procedures
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during labor and delivery, and when
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they do happen, they're usually treatable with
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antibiotics. So in places where
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competent care, clean water, and antibiotics
3:01
are readily available, pure pearl
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fever isn't very common. This
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was not the case before the germ theory
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of disease or the discovery of antibiotics.
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Until the late nineteenth century, childbed
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fever was one of the most common
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complications of childbirth. Within
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about three days of giving birth,
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patients developed abdominal pain, fevers,
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abscesses, and other signs of infection,
3:25
and this would often progress to blood poisoning
3:27
and death. Sometimes, incidents
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of child bed fever were sporadic and
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between twenty and thirty percent of those
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sporadic infections were fatal, but
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when an epidemic of child bed fever
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swept through a community or a hospital,
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it tended to be a lot deadlier, with seventy
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with a seventy to eighty percent mortality
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rate, and a lot
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of prominent women died of childbed
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fever throughout history, including
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Mary Wolston Craft, Henry the Eighth
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Wife, Jane Seymour, and possibly
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recent podcast subject Phyllis Wheatley.
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Obviously, a lot of ordinary women did
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too that aren't in the history books. It
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was something both expecting parents and
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their doctors and midwives dreaded
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and feared. Childbed fever was
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described in medical literature all the way
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back to Hippocrates in the fourth century
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BC, and in the years before
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evidence based medicine. People blamed
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it on a range of causes based
4:22
on whatever medical theories were in use
4:24
at the time, so everything from
4:26
a balance an imbalance in the four
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Humors to myasthmas
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or bad air. By the eighteenth
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century, doctors were devoting a lot
4:35
of writing to arguing about whether it was an
4:38
inflammatory or a putrefying disease.
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In the eighteenth and nineteen centuries,
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a few things happened in tandem that led
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to a big increase in childbed
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fever epidemics. One was
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that more babies were being delivered in hospitals
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rather than at home. In some
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cases, these hospitals were part of social
4:56
programs. The idea was to provide
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free care before and after delivery
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to try to stop infanticide among
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families that were living in poverty. Some
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of these hospitals employed midwives,
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and others of them employed doctors,
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and this was also a change. Before
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this point, doctors and surgeons, who
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were almost exclusively male, had
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really only been involved in delivering
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babies when there were really serious complications.
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It was so unusual for a man to
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be involved in delivery that in some places
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these doctors were called man midwives.
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So the idea that a doctor would be involved
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in the routine delivery of a baby was
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fairly new in the seventeen hundreds.
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Also fairly new was the widespread use
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of autopsies as part of medical education.
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Although autopsies existed well before
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this point, it was only in the mid's seventeen
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hundreds that the field of medicine really
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started using them to try to improve on medical
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knowledge and teach medical students,
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and in the late eighteenth and early nineteenth
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centuries, doctors started using autopsies
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childbed fever victims, specifically
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to try to learn more about the disease. All
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of this together meant that at about
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the same time, more people were giving
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birth in hospitals assisted by doctors,
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and more doctors and medical students were
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handling and dissecting cadavers
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as part of medical study, including
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the bodies of people who had died of childbed
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fever. Because illnesses
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were blamed on things like myasthmas
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and imbalanced humors rather than on pathogens,
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these post mortem examinations were
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being conducted with bare hands,
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and those bare hands were not usually
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washed before working with living patients.
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Surgical gloves weren't even invented
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yet. That wouldn't happen until the late eighteen
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hundreds, and when those gloves were invented,
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they were really about protecting the hands
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from chemicals, not protecting
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the patients from the spread of disease or
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the doctors from contracting diseases
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from the patients. The
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result of all of this was a dramatic
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increase acent epidemics of child bed
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fever particularly in hospitals.
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One swept through the Paris Hotel Dieu
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in seventeen in seventeen
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forty six, another struck
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the British Lying In Hospital in seventeen
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sixty. These were frequent and
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widespread enough that hospitals weren't usually
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thought of as safe places to give birth.
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There were definitely doctors who
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spotted the connection between autopsies
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and child bed fever, or who suspected
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that the disease could be spread from patient to patient
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by the doctors who were treating them. These
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doctors published treatises and journal
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articles about what they thought was causing child
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bed fever and how to stop it. In
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seventeen Alexander
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Gordon of Aberdeen, Scotland wrote his
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treatise on the Epidemic of Pure
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Pearl Fever, and in it he theorized
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that doctors who had treated a patient with child
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bed fever could pass it on to other
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patients. He recommended
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burning the patient's bedclothes, along
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with thorough hand washing and fumigating
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all of the clothing of the doctors and nurses
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who were involved in the infected patient's
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care. In eighteen twenty
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nine, when an epidemic of childbed fever
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struck the Rotunda Hospital in Dublin,
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Ireland. Hospital chief Robert
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Collins tried to stop it with a forty
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eight hour chlorine fumigation. He
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also ordered that all the floors and walls
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be scrubbed down with chlorinated lime
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and all the linen's be heat treated. The
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number of childbed fever cases at
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the hospital dropped almost to zero
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after he did all this. In
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eighteen forty three, Oliver Wendellholm
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Sr. Delivered a paper called the
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Contagiousness of Pure Pearl Fever
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to the Boston Society of Medical Improvement.
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In it, he said, quote, the disease
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known as pure pearl fever is so far
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contagious as to be frequently carried from
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patient to patient by physicians
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and nurses. He then went
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on to describe a number of steps to try
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to prevent the spread of the disease. These included
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that obstetricians should ever conduct
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autopsies on patients who died
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of childbed fever, and if for
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some reason an obstetrician had to,
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he should very thoroughly clean himself,
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change all of his clothes, and abstain
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from patient treatment for at least twenty
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four hours. Holmes went on
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to recommend that if a doctor treated a
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patient who then contracted childbed
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fever, he should consider all of
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the patients that he went on to treat
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to also be at risk until significant
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time had passed without anybody else being
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infected, and if two of
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his patients developed childbed fever in
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close proximity to one another, he should remove
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himself from medical practice and bring in a
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substitute for at least a month. Holmes's
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paper made recommendations that would have
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been both useful and effective for preventing
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the spread of childbed fever, but
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it didn't get a lot of attention until it was reprinted
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as a pamphlet and more widely distributed,
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and then the response among the medical
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community was total dismissal and
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outright mockery. Charles
10:00
D. Meigs, an obstitution from Philadelphia,
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described holmes As theories and recommendations
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as quote je June and Fizzinless
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Dreamings, and claimed that any doctor
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who saw an increase in child bed fever was
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just unlucky. When Agna's
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semil Weiss came to the same conclusion
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that Oliver Wendell Holmes Senior, had, the
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response from the rest of the medical community was
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very much the same, and we'll talk about it
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after a sponsor break
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becas semil Weiss was born on July
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one, eighteen eighteen, and the Taban area
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of Buddha Hungary. Buddha
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would combine with Pest in eighteen seventy
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three, so it was a little bit later to become Buddha
10:45
Pest. At the time, Hungary
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was part of the Austrian Empire, and
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he was the fifth of ten children born
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to Grosser Joseph Semilweiss and Terisia
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Mueller. There's a bit
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of disagreement about the family's heritage.
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Some accounts claim that they were Jewish and
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that anti Semitism was a factor in
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later parts of Semilvis's story,
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but Sherwin B. Newland, author of
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The Doctor's Plague, Germs, child
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bed Fever, and The Strange Story of Ignaz
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Semilviis, writes that parish
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registers document that the semil Weiss family
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was Roman Catholic going back to the sixteen
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seventies. The counter argument
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is that semil Weiss and his ancestors may
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have been baptized for the sake of assimilation
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while the family was still culturally Jewish,
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but this is largely conjecture and it
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seems mostly just to be based on their
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surname. In eighteen thirty
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seven, at the age of nineteen, semuil
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Wess went to the University of Vienna to study
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law. A year later he
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changed his course of study to medicine and
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he graduated with his m d. In eighteen
11:49
forty four. He looked for a position
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practicing internal medicine, but he couldn't
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find one, so he changed his focus
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once again and looked for a position in obstetrics.
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On life First, eighteen forty six, he
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was granted a two year appointment as an
12:03
assistant to Professor Johann Klein,
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who was the director of the Vienna
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Algamini corunkin House or the General
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Hospital. Vienna
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General Hospital was a teaching hospital,
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so in this role Semmelweis was both a
12:17
doctor and a teacher. He supervised
12:20
and educated medical students, and
12:22
he assisted with difficult deliveries.
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He was also the clerk of records, which put
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him in a good position to spot patterns
12:29
among the patients and their outcomes.
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The maternity clinic at the Vienna
12:34
General Hospital was one of the ones that
12:36
had been established to provide free medical
12:38
care to impoverished patients, so
12:41
patients essentially got free care and exchanged
12:43
for helping with the medical students educations.
12:47
Originally, the hospital had one maternity
12:49
clinic, which was staffed by midwives, doctors,
12:51
and their students, and after a while
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that one clinic became so overcrowded
12:56
that the hospital opened a second one, which was
12:58
still staffed by a mix of doctors,
13:00
midwives, and their students. But
13:03
around eighteen forty the two clinics
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were separated into the first and second
13:08
clinic. The first clinic was
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staffed by doctors and medical students,
13:12
and the second clinic was staffed by midwives
13:15
and midwiffery students. The
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two clinics alternated admission days,
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so if the first clinic accepted patients
13:21
on Monday, the second clinic would
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accept patients on Tuesday, and so on.
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When the maternity clinic first opened
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in seventeen eighty four, the hospital
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director Lucas Boer, had
13:33
not included post mortem work as
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part of the obstetric student's course of study
13:37
because he thought it carried a risk of contagion,
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But in eighteen twenty three Johann Klein took
13:43
over as director and started using autopsies
13:45
as a teaching tool for the obstetric
13:47
students. By the time
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Semmelweis joined the hospital staff,
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the rates of child bed fever at Vienna General
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Hospital very dramatically between
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the two clinics. At the midwives
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clinic, between one and two percent
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of patients died of child bed fever,
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and at the doctor's clinic the rate varied
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from five to with an
14:08
average of about ten percent. This
14:11
difference between the two clinics was
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so huge and so well known that
14:15
laboring patients who were told
14:17
that they were being admitted to the doctor's clinic
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would beg to be sent to the midwives
14:22
clinic instead. Some even
14:24
gave birth in the street outside
14:27
the clinic after hearing that it was the doctor's
14:29
day for admission, and then they would
14:31
say they had been on the way to the hospital and the
14:33
baby just came before they could get there.
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That way, they would still have access to the
14:38
free care at the clinic, but without
14:40
the risk of death that was associated
14:42
with it. That's gotta be a terrifying
14:45
choice when you're like, no, I'm I'm just
14:47
gonna do this in the street and then I'll let them
14:49
take care of me after that. Well, and I imagine
14:51
a thing I didn't find. Um, I didn't
14:53
find sources that said this, but considering
14:55
that my own mother did this when I was born, I
14:58
imagine the people that were like, I'm in labor, but
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I'm not far into labor, and it's the doctor's
15:02
day. I'm gonna wait a few hours so
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i can go to the midwives clinic. I imagine
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that was a thing too. My my parents did
15:10
that because if they waited till after midnight, they wouldn't
15:12
be billed for the extra day. Did
15:15
not have a ton of money. Simil
15:17
Vis noticed that even these births
15:20
out in the street were safer
15:22
than giving birth in the doctor's clinic at
15:24
the hospital. He wrote, quote
15:26
to me, it appeared logical that patients
15:28
who experienced street births would
15:31
become ill at least as frequently as
15:33
those who delivered in the clinic. What
15:35
protected those who delivered outside the clinic
15:37
from these destructive, unknown endemic
15:40
influences. He became
15:42
completely fixated on this question.
15:44
It was appalling and deeply offensive
15:47
to him that there was such a huge difference between
15:49
the doctors and the midwives clinics.
15:51
So you started trying to figure out what was
15:54
different between the two clinics, and then making
15:56
adjustments to what the doctors were
15:58
doing. At the midwives
16:00
clinic, patients lay on their sides
16:02
to deliver, but at the doctor's clinic
16:05
they lay on their backs. Similar
16:07
Wizz changed the procedure at the doctor's clinic
16:09
to use sidelining, but that didn't
16:11
make a difference. They also
16:14
noticed that anytime a patient was dying
16:16
in the doctor's clinic, the priest who was
16:18
arriving to get to give last rites
16:21
basically had to walk through the whole ward,
16:23
and he rang a bell while he was doing this.
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Some of us thought maybe this bell and
16:28
what it signified was so terrifying
16:31
that it was making people sick, so he got
16:33
the priest to stop it with the bell. That
16:36
did not fix the problem.
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He looked at how crowded the two clinics
16:40
were, and it turned out that the midwives
16:42
clinic was understandably far
16:44
more crowded. He looked at the religious
16:47
practices of the people working in each clinic.
16:49
He looked at the patient's diets, and none
16:51
of these things seemed to make a difference. Then
16:56
his friend and colleague, Jacob Colleca
16:58
died of what appeared to each childbed fever
17:01
after accidentally being nicked with a
17:03
scalpel while performing an autopsy
17:05
on someone who had died of it, and
17:07
Collectica's own autopsy results
17:10
were very similar to those of childbed
17:12
fever victims. That's
17:15
when Semilvieis realized that midwiffery
17:17
students weren't performing autopsies
17:19
as part of their training, only the
17:21
medical students were. Another
17:23
difference was that the medical students were performing
17:26
vaginal examinations on their patients
17:28
as a routine part of their care, while
17:30
midwiffery students only did so when
17:32
there seemed to be a need for one.
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Semilvis's conclusion was that some
17:37
kind of cadaverous particles were
17:40
being transmitted from the autopsies
17:42
to the patients in the doctor's clinic.
17:45
In mid May of eighteen forty seven,
17:47
Semulvis started instructing doctors
17:49
and medical students to wash their hands
17:52
after conducting autopsies. They
17:54
were to use chlorinated lime until
17:56
their hands had no trace of the putrid
17:58
smell that was left hind by a decaying
18:01
body. He chose chlorinated
18:03
lime because it seemed to do the best job of
18:05
getting rid of the odor. But chlorinated
18:08
lime is calcium hypochlorite,
18:10
which today is sold as powdered chlorine
18:12
bleach. Chlorine bleach is,
18:15
of course a disinfectant. With
18:17
Salis's handwashing protocol
18:19
in place, the rate of child bed
18:22
fever mortality in the doctor's clinics
18:24
started to drop. It had been eighteen
18:26
point three percent in April, and by
18:28
June it had dropped to two point two.
18:32
In August of eighty seven, for the
18:34
first time since the medical students started
18:36
performing autopsies, no
18:38
one died of child bed fever in the doctor's
18:41
clinic. Some of us couldn't
18:43
exactly explain why this
18:45
had worked. At one point, another
18:48
outbreak of child bed fever spread through
18:50
the clinic, even though there had been no autopsy
18:52
to trigger it. So some of VISs began
18:54
to suggest that some patients might make
18:57
their own so called cadaverous particles
19:00
their own bodies, rather than the autopsies
19:02
being their only source. Later
19:05
on, he revised his hypothesis
19:07
a third time, saying that the cadaverous particles
19:09
could come from any decaying animal
19:12
flesh, not just from a human body.
19:15
The fact that he couldn't adequately explain
19:17
why his protocol worked became
19:19
one of the arguments against his findings.
19:22
While some of his medical students agreed with
19:24
and supported his work, most of the
19:27
established doctors at the hospital dismissed
19:29
him completely. Director Johann
19:31
Klein insisted that it was the clinic's
19:33
new ventilation system which was getting
19:36
rid of dangerous miasmas and
19:38
that should get the credit. Other
19:40
doctors also vehemently disagreed
19:43
with the idea that their own hands
19:45
could have been what was spreading such a devastating,
19:48
painful, and emotionally wrenching disease.
19:51
It was unfathomable to them that a
19:53
doctor could have dirty hands in the first
19:55
place. In their minds, doctors
19:58
were gentlemen, and a gentle men's hands
20:00
were always clean, and his word
20:03
of several vices protocol spread
20:05
beyond a hospital. Doctors were also
20:07
resistant to the idea of washing their hands because
20:09
they didn't necessarily have access to
20:12
clean water where they worked, and
20:14
also because it was time consuming. I
20:17
like this weird chicken in the egg thing, where
20:19
like a gentleman's hands
20:21
aren't clean because he takes such fastidious
20:23
care of himself, but just because he's a
20:26
gentle yes. Uh.
20:29
Later on several vice would describe
20:31
it this way quote. Most
20:34
medical lecture halls continued to resound
20:36
with lectures on epidemic child bed
20:38
fever and with discourse against
20:40
my theories. The medical literature
20:43
for the last twelve years continues to swell
20:45
with reports of pure Borough epidemics,
20:48
and in eighteen fifty four, in Vienna, the
20:50
birthplace of my theory, four
20:52
hundred maternity patients died from
20:54
child bed fever. In published
20:57
medical works, my teachings are either
20:59
ignored or attacked. The medical
21:02
faculty at Wurtzburg awarded
21:04
a prize to a monograph written in eighteen
21:06
fifty nine in which my teachings
21:09
were rejected. So he wrote
21:11
that a little bit later, and to return to
21:13
this current part of the story, simil
21:15
Weis did not back down in the face of all
21:17
this opposition. In eighteen
21:19
forty eight, he started requiring that medical
21:22
students clean all the instruments
21:24
that were used during labor and delivery
21:26
with chlorinated lime as well. The
21:28
clinic had already had a month where
21:31
there had been no deaths, and at this point the
21:33
ongoing mortality rate from child
21:35
bed fever at the hospital dropped almost
21:38
to zero. As
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doctors continued to dismiss his findings,
21:43
Similviis became increasingly hostile
21:45
and combative, and simultaneously,
21:48
uprisings were sweeping through the area as
21:51
people protested against the Habsburg
21:53
dynasty in the Austrian Empire. Students
21:56
held a demonstration in Vienna on March
21:58
thirteenth, eighteen four eight, and the
22:01
Hungarian Revolution of eighteen forty
22:03
eight began two days later. Although
22:05
there's no evidence that Cemilviis was
22:08
part of these demonstrations, many
22:10
of his student supporters were, which probably
22:12
inflamed tensions between him
22:14
and the rest of the faculty. As
22:16
I said earlier, that position he had at the
22:18
maternity clinic and at the hospital had been a
22:21
two year appointment, and in eighteen
22:23
forty nine the hospital elected not to
22:25
renew it. He was instead offered
22:27
a position that had no contact with cadavers.
22:30
In eighteen fifty he left Vienna
22:32
to return home without announcing his departure
22:35
or saying goodbye to anyone. He knew we're
22:38
going to talk about semil Vice's life back
22:40
in Hungary. After we first pause for another
22:42
sponsor break
22:51
in eighteen fifty one, Ignaz
22:53
Semilviis was named head of obstetrics
22:55
at St. Rocas Hospital. Although this
22:58
was really an honorary and un haide
23:00
position, he did hold it for
23:02
the next few years, though, during which
23:04
time the rate of child bed fever at the hospital
23:07
dropped significantly. In
23:09
the mid eighteen fifties, some of Vis
23:11
left St Roucas and became a professor
23:14
at Peste University. In
23:16
eighteen fifty seven, he married Maria Widenhoffer,
23:19
and they went on to have five children together.
23:21
During these years, some of Vice continued
23:24
to advocate for handwashing after autopsies,
23:27
and he also wrote a series of extremely
23:29
hostile open letters to the doctors who
23:31
dismissed his ideas, calling them
23:34
murderers who were responsible for the deaths
23:36
of women through their negligence. This
23:39
seems to me like a very fair assessment,
23:42
but but people began
23:45
to increasingly think he is just uh
23:47
an angry man that no one should listen to. He
23:50
wrote things like, you, hair, professor,
23:52
have been a partner in this massacre,
23:55
and should you hair
23:57
halfroth? Without having disproved
23:59
my doctrine, continued to train your pupils
24:01
against it. I declare before God
24:04
and the world that you are a murderer,
24:06
and the history of childbed fever would not
24:09
be unjust to you if it memorialized
24:11
you as a medical nero. In
24:14
eighteen fifty eight, after years
24:16
of his supporters telling him he should publish
24:18
his work, he published The Ideology
24:21
of child bed Fever. Another
24:24
work, The Difference in Opinion between
24:26
Myself and the English Physicians regarding
24:28
child bed Fever, followed in eighteen
24:30
sixty, and in eighteen sixty
24:32
one he published a book called The Etiology,
24:35
the Concept and the Prophylaxis of child
24:37
bed Fever. In places,
24:40
this was a clear and well written treatise
24:42
on childbed fever, but large
24:44
portions were actually diatribes against
24:46
his critics, some of them rambling, repetitive,
24:49
and almost nonsensical. Ignaz
24:52
Semmelweiss had been described as abrasive,
24:55
dogmatic, and even route for most
24:57
of his career, but by the time this book
24:59
came out, he was also starting to behave
25:02
erratically. This got worse
25:04
in the early eighteen sixties, and on July
25:06
thirteenth, eighteen sixty five, he
25:08
returned home from a family outing
25:10
and was behaving so bizarrely that his
25:13
wife became convinced that something was seriously
25:15
wrong with him, and then on July
25:18
twenty one, he went to a meeting at his
25:20
job, where, among other things, he
25:22
was supposed to talk about candidates for
25:24
a vacant lecturers post, and
25:27
according to his former assistant, instead
25:29
he read a piece of paper containing the
25:32
midwives Oath of Practice. Clearly
25:34
unaware that he was doing anything amiss,
25:38
Symbolsize planned to go to a spa
25:40
and take water treatments there, and he departed
25:43
with his wife and some attendants on
25:45
July twenty nine, but the next
25:47
day, for reasons that aren't entirely clear,
25:50
he was instead committed to a public institution,
25:53
where he died on August thirteenth, eighteen
25:55
sixty five, at the age of forty seven.
25:58
He was buried in Vienna to days later.
26:01
There are some conflicting reports about
26:03
what happened at the institution. In
26:06
some accounts, he became so violent that
26:08
he had to be restrained, and during
26:10
that encounter he was injured, but in
26:12
others, he was severely beaten
26:14
by guards and then left without any kind of
26:16
medical treatment. Regardless
26:18
of exactly what happened, an injury
26:21
to his finger that he either had when he
26:23
got to the hospital or sustained in the
26:25
incident became infected. An
26:27
autopsy that was performed at Vienna Algaminy
26:30
crunkin House diagnosed quote
26:32
paralysis of the brain as his
26:34
cause of death. Today, it
26:36
seems likely to have been sept to semia,
26:39
but the autopsy also revealed that he
26:41
had severe injuries that do suggest
26:44
that he had been beaten. It's
26:46
also not clear what caused his behavior
26:48
to become so erratic in the last years
26:51
of his life. Theories range
26:53
from the continual stress of being such
26:55
a pariah in the medical community to
26:58
early onset Alzheimer's late
27:00
stage syphilis, which was an occupational
27:02
hazard of being an obstetrician at
27:04
a busy hospital at this point in history.
27:07
In the later years the cimil Vices
27:09
life, other doctors were also
27:11
working on ideas that were related to contagion
27:14
and the germ theory of disease. In
27:17
eighteen fifty, two years after cemil
27:19
Vice instituted handwashing at
27:21
the Vanna General Hospital, James
27:23
Young Simpson of Scotland published
27:25
a detailed description of how materials
27:28
more by could be introduced into
27:30
the body during labor and delivery, and
27:32
how the postpartum body was primed
27:34
for infection and because of the
27:36
dilation and abrasion sustained during
27:39
birth. He even made the comparison
27:41
between the attendants fingers
27:44
and the ivory points that were that had
27:46
been used to administer smallpox
27:48
vaccinations by transferring
27:50
material from a cowpox lesion to
27:52
a person's skin. In
27:55
the eighteen fifties and sixties,
27:57
Louis Pasteur was studying how mycro
28:00
organisms caused beer and wine to
28:02
spoil. In eighteen sixty
28:04
seven, Joseph Lister began publishing
28:06
work on preventing infection during surgery,
28:09
which included hygiene and handwashing
28:11
with carbolic Ten years prior
28:13
to that, in eighteen fifty seven, Robert
28:16
Coke made the connection between the anthrax
28:18
disease and the anthrax bacterium,
28:21
and later he helped articulate for criteria
28:24
to prove that a disease is caused by a
28:26
specific micro organism, which
28:28
are called Coke's postulates today.
28:31
These criteria are that the micro organism
28:33
is always associated with the disease, that
28:36
it can be taken from a diseased animal and grown
28:38
in a culture, that the cultured organism
28:41
can cause the disease in a healthy animal,
28:43
and that the same micro organism can be
28:45
collected from the newly diseased animal.
28:48
So, based on the work of Louis Pasteur, Joseph
28:51
Lister, Robert Coke, and others,
28:53
infection control finally became a routine
28:56
part of obstetrics in the eighties.
28:58
But these researchers don't appear to
29:00
have been influenced by seul vices work
29:02
at all. In a lot of cases, they hadn't
29:05
even heard of him until long after
29:07
they did their first groundbreaking work.
29:10
He faded into obscurity after
29:12
his death until a Hungarian doctor published
29:14
a paper about him in eighteen eighty seven.
29:18
Today there are lots of hospitals
29:20
and clinics named after Igno's semil Vice,
29:23
along with the semil Vice Medical Historical
29:25
Museum in Budapest, and
29:27
at some point some unknown person coined
29:30
the simil Viz reflex to describe
29:32
a rejection of new information because
29:34
it contradicts established norms.
29:37
Even though pure pearl fever is much
29:39
less of an issue for a lot of the world today
29:41
than it was in nineteenth century Europe,
29:44
hospital acquired infections are
29:46
still an issue even in the most affluent
29:49
parts of the world, known
29:51
as nasocomial infections, they're
29:53
the most common complication in
29:55
hospitalized people. They happened in
29:57
between five and ten percent of
29:59
acute our patients, and handwashing
30:02
is a huge part of preventing them.
30:04
YEA for hand washing, Yes,
30:07
please wash your hands. This This
30:09
story reminds me a little bit of Fritz Wiki, where
30:11
somebody is really clearly onto something and
30:14
their contemporaries are like Nope, nope, nope,
30:16
and it makes them frustrated and it's a
30:19
little bit mad having
30:22
to fight against that all the time. Yes, some
30:24
of the some of the things
30:26
that I read about him that have been written more recently
30:30
almost have a victim blamey aspect
30:33
to them. They they're sort of like, if he hadn't
30:35
been such a jerk about it, people might have listened
30:37
to him. And I'm like, women were literally
30:40
dying, and he was like, who
30:42
cares how it works, washing your hands
30:44
keeps the women from dying.
30:48
Why won't you just do it? And
30:50
like, I'm like that understandably
30:53
made him really angry.
30:55
Well, and it is kind of hard to
30:58
understand how people were not
31:01
getting the pattern recognition of everywhere
31:03
he went and instituted his practices,
31:07
mortality went down, and so clearly
31:09
something was correct. Uh
31:11
so it seems weird that they would continue to be like, nope,
31:13
nope, nope, no my hands, I'm a gentleman. Thank
31:22
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