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us in Vienna. Berlin. Techno

1:01

has just been given

1:03

Unesco Heritage status, putting

1:06

it on par with

1:08

Stonehenge, Persepolis and Yellowstone

1:11

National. Park the hardiest

1:13

if we're amazing. Wow. More

1:16

specifically, it's been added to

1:18

the national Unesco list of

1:20

intangible cultural heritage for Germany,

1:22

So a little less specific

1:24

than Stonehenge, but it joined

1:26

the ranks of other local

1:28

john or is like Jamaican

1:30

reggae and got a foreigner.

1:32

Intangible cultural heritage. I feel

1:34

awkward. Overdue. For summer podcast

1:37

additions justice and will be the first

1:39

in line. Okay, so what does this mean?

1:41

Soda. Means basically is that

1:43

Unesco and Germany have

1:46

decided that Berlin Techno

1:48

is one of the

1:50

most important cultural touchstones

1:52

of the country. Now,

1:54

Berlin Techno takes most

1:56

of it's cues from

1:58

Detroit techno. In America.

2:01

Prefers. A Taco The Great, The birthplace.

2:03

Of the genre, the Berlin version

2:05

actually got it's start from somebody

2:07

in West Berlin traveling to Detroit.

2:10

In the eighties. And liking the

2:12

sound so much that he brought

2:14

records and some of the black

2:16

producers back to Europe to kick

2:19

start the scene in in the

2:21

country and it flourished when the

2:23

Berlin Wall fell in nineteen. Eighty

2:26

Nine know I'm a real M. P R

2:28

did a really great story about the creation

2:30

of the Berlin club scene in there was

2:32

basically was like curfew off battle between East

2:35

and West Germany of who would be open

2:37

the latest and that when the Berlin Wall

2:39

fell they sort of basically found parity and

2:41

said no curfew club go on forever But

2:44

really that's what happened or like you can

2:46

literally party truly all weekend long and never

2:48

have to leave the club in Berlin the

2:50

whatever one coming in Berlin. We left for

2:53

the club at midnight. Like. Those

2:55

the start of the night I was

2:57

like what is this is whose citizens

2:59

it But it was even early. Minnows

3:01

early. Yeah, yeah, it is it. As

3:04

early as it, six sides of people

3:06

lining up for bird I and which

3:08

as big a second. Clip in the

3:10

World as it's exhausted people lining. Up at

3:12

seven in the morning the people are

3:15

going for morning dogs. next of people

3:17

waiting to get in, Super Guy and

3:19

and Como grid efforts. Now. For

3:21

the uninitiated dance head and

3:23

might be hard to distinguish

3:25

Merrick and Sec Know from

3:27

Berlin's. Heck no because both halves

3:30

you know the same Bpm range. one

3:32

thousand one secede. They both have

3:34

booming for on the for beads by

3:36

europeans. have no has European influence taking

3:39

inspiration. From other local sub genres like

3:41

Dutch Dapper music. And over

3:43

the past decade few artists

3:45

are bringing that German techno

3:48

sensibility to the mainstream, like

3:50

Berlin based Dj Boys. Noize.

3:52

Boys, Noize. Exactly.

4:05

Ah, give me that really? Do we

4:07

take this as I couldn't break down

4:09

the sound. Of. Feel like

4:12

the characteristic sound. Of

4:14

techno is that rumble kick

4:17

drum. Or. The kicks. it's almost

4:19

twice that. Like. Hope.

4:24

It's like the reverberation of the warehouse club.

4:26

the arrest. You can hear the kick drum.

4:29

Rumble Mosques and you've

4:31

got the Boots Boots

4:34

beat with off the

4:36

hi Hats Miss Rolling

4:38

Filtered Very simple sequence

4:41

lines. Of

4:44

a time as. Sounds

4:46

like squelched, distorted,

4:49

terrifying sympathizers. You

4:52

also get a lot of that

4:55

serial pads and I'm very commonly

4:57

you'll get like German voice same

4:59

one word like. S

5:03

S. S. Busiest.

5:08

Roof. Very little harmony, not a

5:10

lot of movement, like not much changes all

5:12

the changes and like the micro textures and

5:15

hamburgers and filters are opening and closing and

5:17

little elements changing bit by bit be and

5:19

I get like the big idiom drop. In.

5:22

The middle of a. Berlin. Techno said

5:24

no. It's basically this survey ever all

5:26

weekend s de dah dah dah dah

5:28

dah dah dah dah dah dah dah

5:31

dah Punches This is yeah. No breaks,

5:33

very sparse, very heavy, very industrial to

5:35

degree. I feel like the kind of

5:38

dancing you do to this is like

5:40

very intense and driven and like exhausting.

5:44

Whenever whenever I go dancing to tech now as

5:46

he like I got. Home and my neck

5:48

hurts because I'm not consistently dancing and

5:50

like you know, moving my limbs or

5:53

anything. I'm just kind the standing there and like

5:55

not in I have as a source of fully

5:57

it's like rather than a normal work out it's

5:59

like when you. What the They're like the

6:01

electrodes on your abs that it was

6:03

like to the what the work out

6:05

for everybody's taking a complex or exactly

6:08

okay. so what is Boys those are

6:10

into Bring the Berlin techno sound to

6:12

the masses lives in. Part of what

6:14

makes Boys Noize so special is that

6:16

he is pushing. The limitations of

6:19

Berlin techno and part of

6:21

how he's doing that is

6:23

collaborating with American artists and

6:26

particularly American rappers. He's collaborated

6:28

with Playboy Party before on

6:31

the song unlawful. And

6:44

is. That be kind of

6:46

using. Like. The since sounds of

6:48

Berlin techno but putting them in a

6:50

hip hop contacts with much more sick

6:52

of it beats and wrapping. I

6:55

feel like you have to be a

6:57

certain kind of M C to be

6:59

able to slow on top of these.

7:02

Sparse. Heavy. Berlin.

7:04

Beats like. My. Senses not

7:06

everyone can just hop on a boys

7:08

nice track. And. Wrap Yeah,

7:10

these bits are very nuance and it

7:13

does. Take a skilled them see

7:15

to wrap over them for example,

7:17

Snoop Dogg on the song.it

7:19

c O G m against

7:21

from the. Us.

7:36

Whoa whoa whoa Okay so much

7:38

more like of Berlin techno track

7:40

and and for to the floor

7:42

with some of those. Nasty.

7:45

Ass it he has been sounds but

7:47

he slowed the tempo way down to

7:49

perform better to like a hip hop

7:51

vibe that. Sleep can wrap over.

7:54

So. Boys Noize has worked with. Many.

7:56

Rappers up to this point. Over the

7:58

course of his career which has been

8:00

over a decade, his news as of

8:02

late. Has the none other

8:04

than Maryland's rapper we go now says

8:07

he knows. Oh

8:21

I mean I can see

8:23

why. Rico style would

8:26

sit with this Berlin techno

8:28

sound. Her delivery. Her.

8:30

Power. Curve. Drive

8:32

like that's a cool match their that's very

8:35

aggressive and as a good fit a mimics

8:37

you think about ran a you did this

8:39

Really great story few weeks ago. About

8:42

a of sit of hip hop in and house

8:44

represented at Rolling Loud and. Serve. Were

8:46

in this moment of people trying to

8:48

find what does this next sound gonna

8:50

be and everyone else is really smart

8:52

to collaborate with Boys Noize and sign

8:55

this as hybrid between Berlin Dancing Second,

8:57

your support Yeah. Every goes on

8:59

a my favor uppers and has

9:01

been for the past six seven

9:03

years. she special for a number

9:05

of reasons. Her delivery has by

9:08

Sees coins her own Johndroe which

9:10

costs sugar trap for the N

9:12

C is wholly unafraid to hop

9:14

into different genres and try new

9:16

things which is what makes the

9:18

collaboration between Rico and Boys Noize

9:20

so special. The to have links

9:22

up frequently over the years from

9:25

Brooke Candies, Sm You, and Twenty

9:27

Ninety. And. Two

9:36

Boys and Seduction on Rico Song

9:38

Many Seedling. Flow millie. Fun

9:50

Wild thing sample. Yes,

9:52

the Wild Thing as the sample,

9:55

but the song is a sample

9:57

of that sample because it's samples.

9:59

Who live Cruz? We want

10:01

some. You know why? Yes, Right

10:03

beneath the fifth, the A. Very

10:06

throwback. Her flows like I'm the opposite

10:08

end of the spectrum from are some

10:10

i'm a guy spice maybe. I

10:13

spices cow. Laid back kind of cool. Dude.

10:25

Reagan. Ass is like. Process.

10:27

Like I'm cindy her face.

10:29

Every syllable is like throttle.

10:41

It's really fun to listen to. And Boys

10:44

Noize can be heard all over the

10:46

track. Even though this is more on

10:48

the hip hop side of his sounds,

10:51

we have these distinctive techno high seas

10:53

like been rushed abrasive percussive sounds would

10:55

you could hear about emitted into the

10:57

track. And

11:08

the here it. Is

11:10

becoming. One. Of. The best

11:12

collaboration between Reason As D and Boys

11:15

Noize and one of my favorites was

11:17

her feature. On his record Polarity

11:20

on the song Girl Cross.

11:38

There we go, That's that's the saying

11:40

that when we got the rumble base,

11:43

we've got the super aggressive lead sounds.

11:45

Got the super simple sequence bases that

11:47

straight up Detroit techno, but can. She's.

11:50

Comfortable playing with the Bpl and bringing

11:53

it way down to sort of make

11:55

this new sound of fit and blend

11:57

with with with her vide growth. Has

11:59

was the first. I'm that I noticed

12:01

the to working together and

12:04

immediately set out to me

12:06

as uncharted territory for Rico

12:08

Nasty It's she's not really

12:10

wrapping. On the song for it's

12:13

Hamburgers The Friend, it's much smoother

12:15

than the embrace of the confrontation

12:17

of her solo work, and I

12:19

find that sultry and await says

12:21

outplay we hadn't previously heard from.

12:23

Her. It makes me think

12:25

of some of the stories you're

12:27

telling us from that rolling loud

12:30

pop festival Brianna Like if hip

12:32

hop is losing some of it's

12:34

commercial dominance in the twenty twenties,

12:36

Maybe this kind of techno singing.

12:39

Pop. Hybrid is like one potential direction

12:41

for the future of the genre. Or

12:44

that leads us to Twenty Twenty Four. And

12:46

and So Nasty And Boys Noize have

12:48

a new Ie pl called Hard Core.

12:51

Dreams that the Zero as the

12:53

Oh and a Three as the

12:55

ease and you won't hear the

12:57

conventional sounds as hip hop. anywhere

13:00

on Sep. Set. Out

13:02

my favorite song: Sydney P. The

13:04

deeply catchy Addington seen. As

13:21

fun as slaps as got

13:24

the sounds of. The.

13:26

Detroit Techno saying. But. It's

13:28

a bit more euro pop. It's very

13:30

upbeat. It has this octave

13:32

back and forth baseline. That

13:35

that makes a very on was like

13:37

Eurovision. he was on a really dark

13:39

undertones of the Detroit techno some to

13:42

synthesize is that where are kind of

13:44

things. Scrape contrasts relief

13:46

on track exactly and. That's

13:48

up because the title of

13:50

the T Hard Dreams preferences.

13:52

A hardcore dance music A

13:55

Europeans. Honor of Dance. He's a

13:57

characterized by strong insensitive drums and

13:59

high be. The i'm like I'm talking up the

14:01

like. Two hundred pm with

14:03

yeah Philly worms? You

14:05

could check it out on the song Shooting

14:08

Star by Bang From Ninety Ninety Seven One.

14:10

Of my personal favorite. Yes,

14:28

yes, without which is based

14:30

on speed. Yeah, The Soda

14:32

predates the contemporary sped up

14:35

remix phenomenon. Muslims

14:37

So the hard for Dreams Easy Some

14:40

Rico and Boys Noize is a beautiful

14:42

example of their collaboration together. Because it's

14:44

blending together, it's had no and hardcore.

14:47

Sounds by the way of

14:49

two thousand Euro Dance with

14:51

vocals on top courtesy of

14:53

Rico Nasty. Has experience prior

14:55

has been in the hip

14:57

hop sphere and this E

14:59

P continues the path of

15:01

girl cross rejecting the a

15:03

traditional hip hop direction diet

15:05

Rico has been known for.

15:07

it's in favor of the

15:09

stances clubs focus. Direction and.

15:11

I wanted to unpack the three songs

15:14

on the Cp audience eighteen. Vagina

15:16

and age with he hearts. As

15:18

well as the similarities between. These artists respective

15:20

Janez and their artistic endeavors. So

15:22

I got I'm Zoom with Free

15:25

Go and Alexander Rid Of also

15:27

known as Boys Lawyers for. An

15:29

absolutely delightful. Conversations.

15:32

Alex was in his studio and Rico

15:34

was with her son and her dogs.

15:36

making for a very chaotic interview.

15:39

By it often times I wouldn't even have the

15:41

ask a question. The two of them would just

15:43

go. Back and forth. A thirty in one,

15:45

it any other way. Exactly Right. from. The

15:47

get go, they launched into talking about their

15:50

new E P without me even posing a

15:52

question about it when it's amazing to be

15:54

talking to to people he can tell has

15:56

such deep admiration for each other as artists

15:59

and collaborator, especially as someone who's been a

16:01

fan of both. Artist for years. You'll

16:03

see what I mean. Check out my

16:05

conversation with Rico Nasty and Boys Noize.

16:08

after the break. Shut

16:17

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M. C Rico Nessie

17:34

This guy ended See.

17:38

You know my son. Didn't

17:41

see I knew then sucess. Of

17:44

the at the as. That

17:47

bomb on. Something. Group

17:49

on that my bike and can

17:51

we do not deserve involves? Yeah.

17:54

I'm Alex. I'm I'm making

17:56

electronic music for Muslim allies

17:58

or been teaching for. Longer.

18:01

Than Alice know. It's

18:04

a sex. And then

18:07

seasons the D their. I would you

18:09

are saying. This is on

18:11

the ones ensues. This is funny when

18:13

when when Reagan I met I remember

18:15

that vivid the own i'm in that

18:17

in the studio you told me or

18:19

man up and wrapping all his sons

18:22

I want to sing something. And

18:24

those those years ago we finally made something

18:26

where you could say. Yeah

18:41

my god I'm so I that

18:43

or less among as a rat

18:45

I'm gonna say I ask. That

18:48

isn't it is it all I really

18:50

really enjoyed. Like even the early admitted

18:53

that we only again is always a

18:55

super at be. Super. Fine.

18:58

And down. An offer

19:00

this project. When can I. Will.

19:03

That's authentic over that asked. His is really

19:05

fun. Just feel ugly. We really cause

19:07

that reason why we make music plays it

19:09

was really like yeah we making music as

19:11

we want to make music and have fun.

19:14

And. That think about. What? It's

19:16

supposed to be not sink about. Anything

19:19

they daddy was just like. Go

19:21

with the slow of the night

19:23

and we would jump back and

19:25

forth and I see a like

19:27

the music that we put out

19:29

Texas does quite well. Yeah

19:31

I think he'll It was all

19:33

about learning. Had an like making

19:36

music again. And what's

19:38

so special about the boys?

19:40

Noize Rico Nasty collaboration in

19:42

your. Own words For me, it's

19:45

is kind of a musical dream. two

19:47

halves. The world's clashing

19:49

together in our liked. i

19:52

love to like Brits things

19:54

that weren't supposed to. All.

19:57

I do things where people are like you

19:59

can do this. I'm always attracted

20:01

as been since day one and like

20:03

when whenever someone says no, you can't

20:05

do it I'm like we'll see about

20:07

that you know here and when I

20:09

was starting to design was the youngest

20:11

forever on a know I wasn't accepted

20:14

that in the techno well so long

20:16

time you know that Dates s didn't

20:18

want to give me that. And

20:20

that's because I was just. Not.

20:23

Doing what they were doing, You know

20:25

I was doing something that I selves

20:27

was cool and I did it because

20:29

I thought everyone else is doing that.

20:31

Why should I also do what they

20:33

are doing? They already do everything. So.

20:35

Well and I'll play that.

20:38

But. I'm I'm not gonna, you know, Repeat

20:40

that. So so that's what. While my

20:42

music turned out to be the music

20:44

that I did and as I still

20:46

agree to feels the same and or

20:48

well to right you're not afraid to

20:50

like. Go and try something

20:53

you haven't said before. I think

20:55

we have like common denominators when it

20:57

comes to our worlds to which may

20:59

seem like I don't know, like when

21:01

I think boys noize like I think.

21:04

Loud. I think unpredictable.

21:06

I think learned that illness

21:08

is theory is a little

21:11

bit of like you know

21:13

party. There's an underground vibe

21:15

their it's. Has a little on

21:17

cool people for sure you know

21:20

and I mean and then we

21:22

think we can as seats besides

21:24

loud is unpredictable. you don't know

21:26

what your than cats and then

21:28

is also like you never know

21:30

what we're gonna reference to get

21:32

us alive. We are from two

21:34

different worlds. Like Wiki be.

21:37

thinking. Of these are thinking of these are

21:39

thinking of days I passed the light it was

21:41

at the he was both of our like. Curiosity.

21:44

They're really does body together like will.

21:46

I think we just wanted to hear

21:48

what it was sound like as leverage

21:50

Decide less has given. Three

21:52

songs that they can. Five hour

21:55

to an seal out there is

21:57

I interests can adjust. Yeah.

22:00

That's beautiful. I think he does have a really

22:02

lovely partnership and I feel like even just listening

22:05

to the two of you talk about each other

22:07

like there's so much love and I love and

22:09

Lakes you know to artists are working together and

22:11

you talk to them and it seems. Like they're

22:13

genuinely friends and I feel that way about you

22:15

guys. Like still. Love is there and I could

22:17

feel it and I think that's what makes music

22:20

so great. Part of Italy's. You know what

22:22

mattered? Something that I want to add

22:24

as well as like you wanna make

22:26

music with your friends like you know

22:28

because like with your regular I would

22:30

do fog and twenty out because like

22:32

we have friends and we have so

22:34

much fun together. That's all I want

22:36

to do. Honest. Yeah, don't want to

22:38

do anything else but making music with

22:40

my friends. That's the best and

22:42

we to do anything together I see like

22:45

to like we can make would have. Literally

22:48

you know this is in like a project

22:50

down by all this is what can they

22:52

are There is none in tenafly. Six.

22:54

Use almost there. Longer? near long?

22:56

Yeah, it's than a minute year.

22:59

And is can decide cool because

23:01

will feature there. We've lists of

23:03

did it in. Germany.

23:05

Live in a like crazy sides

23:07

of the world and still made

23:09

some that hang out with each

23:11

other and make music and play

23:13

music. And. I just think

23:15

that is something that a. Lot of

23:17

people. As the lie

23:20

in this industry look for like

23:22

Kiss now on a whole team

23:24

home that is on one homie

23:26

Addison have said that I a

23:28

this fire you like this in

23:30

I mean something that is remarkable

23:32

about the both of your work

23:34

is your ability to subvert expectations

23:37

and away because the book the

23:39

practice and like rap arm be

23:41

a hyper pod an electronic diners

23:43

writ large. What does John are

23:45

are as a concept mean to

23:47

the both of you. Ah. As

23:49

is the cage on are like the

23:51

clicking I like than the will of.

23:53

I jars of five different

23:56

category. On that will like

23:58

You can do whatever these

24:01

days. So. Whenever scratches your

24:03

ear and the best way than just

24:05

go for his. You. Know

24:07

when I when I started coming up

24:09

those strictly house music teachers was strictly

24:11

techno music. It's best mean balloon like

24:13

a lot of the. Oh gee,

24:16

techno guys will like it's gonna be

24:18

like this and you can raise your

24:20

hand when you Dj and you know

24:23

the and I was always and

24:25

I mean I've had so many different

24:27

inspirations and I love to play different

24:29

records throughout my sets and and different

24:32

styles. So I'm so glad that I

24:34

don't have to side these dudes anymore

24:36

and I think it's quite normal now

24:39

to to just do any type of

24:41

genre and you know when I deserve

24:43

put in like a Brazilian vocal. Over

24:46

a techno track and some Arabica

24:48

Sean's over some house you know

24:50

like everything's gonna like is cool

24:52

and I see like it's it's

24:55

the com plan anomalous a windows

24:57

which I love. I'm

24:59

stance hi my dog is dying. My kids

25:01

can Are you my dog? Lover:

25:07

Sit. Sit Sit. Sit.

25:13

They are a number.

25:16

For. Those who down and say

25:18

on the. Part of the

25:20

reason why I sell a love

25:23

words. Rico's music was. Basically.

25:26

That you know I follow rap wherever and

25:28

of them buying you know wrapped in happen

25:31

when I started off and everything and there

25:33

was a time when I get really bored

25:35

by it. Because. You know

25:37

there was so much repetitive stuff, you

25:39

know? I love sounds of Nemesis The

25:41

same sound or nor same snare, same

25:43

King Trump's Everything same. Seattle. that's

25:45

like rap comes in waves.

25:47

Yeah, like whatever. Popular. if

25:50

you're early. irony. By. The time it

25:52

hit. Main senior tonight

25:54

tired. Of the Afterlife does

25:56

our leaders like with Anger Underground

25:59

This year. The around is like

26:01

nice. Antilles not only does would

26:03

make me love hip hop though

26:05

like I do love the apart

26:07

because it is at the forefront

26:09

of allotted trend is constantly something

26:11

new have any? I will say

26:13

that like I was getting bored

26:15

with rob him an unnecessary like.

26:18

Hip. Hop are as always loved him

26:20

part because after like you know him

26:22

I be a rat be here and

26:24

there. There might be something here where

26:27

you know some. I do it at

26:29

challenge that plays with their pants from

26:31

I needed or freestyle. they make the

26:33

one of you challenged my pen you

26:35

know what I mean. Like authority a

26:37

pop is like a competition is super

26:40

super competitive. It's all about who can

26:42

either say something. The wittiest. Or.

26:44

Say the hardest, sit in the simplest

26:46

way. it blinds them all about were

26:48

playing stuff like that and like you

26:50

Sir Alex, you're listening to the Found

26:52

in the Be So at night and

26:54

are now era Word A Revolver by

26:57

like. See I was exactly and

26:59

so did come back to when

27:01

I heard your music it was

27:03

the hardest stuff I heard in

27:05

a long time. And

27:20

you know that was the combination of. You.

27:22

You wrap your voice and the

27:25

music yeah and so that was

27:27

like man I have to meet

27:29

regularizing we gonna do some crazy

27:31

stuff with with if we would

27:33

meet together it's em hell yeah

27:35

Work the island so to like

27:37

your on like a other playing

27:39

field the what I was normally

27:41

familiar with like you don't make

27:43

music the gay buried else did

27:45

I work with an air force

27:47

I was like super nervous some

27:49

like oh my god as you

27:51

can this. Be. Able to discern, I

27:53

have club say it like we're kind of sophisticated.

27:56

And anger Literally to be able

27:58

to do. Anything. An

28:00

arrogant and I find that so cool

28:02

because I think. It's very

28:05

hard to like. Be a woman and

28:07

have the ability to delight multifaceted likes.

28:09

Seated at a lot of same thing

28:11

as the lights is something worth. A

28:13

lot of people just want to do

28:15

whatever works. so I'm just happy that

28:17

I that's possess or with somebody like

28:19

wants to see me in a new

28:21

light and wants to see. like trying

28:23

South Colossal a challenge me a lot

28:26

and he made me like. I'm.

28:28

In my into my me to taste announced know

28:30

same for me I've been in a studio with

28:32

the with the handful of rappers and. And

28:35

you know, don't want to call you

28:37

rapper bird like I'm trying. like every

28:39

time on China like you know, Flip

28:42

the situation a little bit so it

28:44

played techno or like a straight to

28:46

school records from the seventies or something

28:48

and no one has reacted same way

28:50

records does. You know? like you're not

28:53

afraid to push yourself. Because.

28:55

Because you have their feelings and you and

28:57

you might not be like oh man this

29:00

is not like would have done before but

29:02

like that's your stance in that sub power

29:04

and that makes you really special and and

29:06

stand out from the rest in my opinion.

29:09

I mean I haven't seen anyone doing anything

29:11

like we did. You know like tell me,

29:13

just tell me another why can't legs under

29:16

the thing? That's why it's so lakes unique.

29:18

And specific because like I'd I can think

29:20

of anything that sounds like what you guys

29:22

are doing like even when he does that

29:24

l girl cross. I was like oh wow

29:27

late. This is the first time I heard

29:29

like something like that track in that capacity.

29:31

Featuring Somebody Like We Don't. Know

29:42

I think it's very unique and the word the

29:44

that do together is very unique. The

29:46

thing that I think one of you said

29:49

about like the Underground I believe it was

29:51

Rico. The underground, you know, takes a few

29:53

years and then it's in the mainstream and

29:55

it's like if you're. Kind. Of

29:57

at the forefront of that we've but it's and

29:59

the we've hit. It's like over That's how I

30:01

feel about like your anger management if you can

30:03

he beats because like I listen to that. When

30:06

it dropped I was like holy said. This is

30:08

a new sound of her hop that I previously

30:10

haven't heard. Back.

30:18

And now you know You look at

30:20

the hip hop today and it's like

30:22

that. like quote unquote Rage be is

30:24

lakes everywhere And yeah, in that Rage

30:27

sounds and I think about it And

30:29

on Lake. I heard that first on

30:31

songs like Big Cities You know, David.

30:39

Yeah. A. Fun!

30:42

The first respondents a can be

30:44

sometimes frustrating to like I have

30:47

that as well and my and

30:49

and and the more micro corona

30:51

zone was of techno now sam.

30:54

Every year you have like

30:56

five produces seven posts sound.

30:59

And. Then yeah, same thing happens like a

31:01

year later. everybody jumps on at some

31:03

and those five produces went on. To.

31:06

Do something else. And then they

31:08

didn't know it is and then the

31:10

guys that just literally copied them become

31:12

bigger and like get, get all of

31:14

it, you know, set. Yeah. Have

31:16

to do that. Science is

31:18

a pod. An electronic. Music to

31:21

be similar. In other regards

31:23

and or ever want them to

31:25

be similar. Only

31:27

effective They're different. Yeah, I like

31:29

to say there's. Different. Spaces

31:31

for all these different brain by ah

31:33

to isolate nothing should be. Something.

31:36

Else in ernie to pass

31:38

the right electronic. Music is

31:41

so. It's I, it's own

31:43

world. You know? I mean. Sell.

31:45

His hip hop total it ages

31:47

lose his eyebrows is on his

31:50

history see others I think there's

31:52

a lot of nuances. Two bowls

31:54

and you know? part of the

31:56

reason why I never liked the

31:58

term media was. Which is

32:00

put everything and into one thing. As

32:02

a me you know it's a Suits.

32:04

There's a huge difference between a six.

32:13

You know, David Guetta? And

32:22

then even within techno you know you

32:24

have your Berlin Techno. You have a

32:26

hard techno. Yeah the deep techno. the

32:29

of the Detroit stuff. yet that. Chicago.

32:31

House you have New York House you

32:33

have. You know there's so many different

32:35

things and it's the same for Rat

32:37

does different codes and and all of

32:40

them this different cultures the system fashion

32:42

event for it you know Asian guy

32:44

agree. I think it's nice that that

32:46

we have said and that you can.

32:48

Also. A dentist? I would. It's

32:50

so sad. To me about the A P.

32:53

Parker Dreams law that it's very a

32:55

be. I'm getting a lot of France

32:57

out of the tracks what was the

32:59

mood board for the Edu and back

33:01

inside as you like dad. One thing

33:03

I wanted to do that was maybe

33:05

the lead was like let's make something

33:07

like basically dead works in my Dj

33:09

sets or like you know that that

33:12

has like a collapse kind of thing.

33:14

Yes so rule. listen to some of

33:16

the stuff on Dejiang and then there

33:18

was this one type of beats A

33:20

started that have these like Hard for

33:22

Gaba. Big Senate. Which

33:25

was like an early version of her vagina.

33:31

And so yeah, that one had this

33:33

kind of hard core sound basically in

33:36

it. You know, these like really Gabbard?

33:39

Fucking. Kick drums, Yeah

33:41

and so. That. Was kind

33:43

of hard core and then whatever

33:45

Rico would do is always like

33:48

the perfect balance to the wage.

33:50

You know, like basically kind of

33:52

opposite. And.

34:02

So that that would make a

34:04

perfect and So I guess that's

34:07

how the titles came along. where

34:09

it's like hard Core and Dreams

34:11

was. A those tana

34:13

like a play with these

34:15

opposite a polarizing seems yeah

34:17

we were just playing around

34:20

with different A D is.

34:22

We. Recorded a lot more songs than the

34:25

once we reduce we were actually gonna rip

34:27

release four songs. one we couldn't. Clear.

34:29

The sample unfortunately. Yeah well as that

34:32

a sample of it was an essay.

34:34

It wasn't technically a sample fc we

34:36

did a we did some, we did

34:38

some adventure police. It is a place

34:40

in of this I'm with. sixties.

34:43

Then kings or is it because it wasn't

34:45

to less crew that road advice. We

34:55

thought it was a tool as crew. Thing.

34:57

But it turned out those another a

34:59

lot on all day and all. Of

35:01

the my. Yeah,

35:08

Yeah, exactly Yeah. One for one on

35:10

one. Down

35:20

near they didn't allow us to

35:22

a certain he said unfortunately and

35:24

but anyway so it's and our

35:26

one also has was like suited

35:28

citing. The I was Sudanese.one

35:31

also has a kind of hard

35:33

core flavor. Yeah, this run.

35:35

Errands and Ten Guess has

35:37

also reloaded other. Provinces

35:47

it is super car. As.

35:50

The late stages. A month answers like a

35:52

good day that the ground. Year.

35:54

That said, and Langley. But I love that.

35:57

That's exactly how I would describe it. I

35:59

mean, what does? The Orinda didn't even

36:01

mean. I. Don't know when

36:03

it's havoc and I didn't exist

36:05

against the people. Go away, you

36:07

know exactly if it. Everyday I

36:10

could hear like the kind of

36:12

contrast between. The. Lyrics and the

36:14

beads it it reminds me a lot of

36:16

Lakes, Euro Downs and like a song like

36:19

the More to your like Heaven by Dj

36:21

Sammy you know these tracks settling? Yeah for.

36:23

Have a son of

36:25

a crazy and with

36:27

full lyrics. Played

36:43

instrumentals that are so uplifting

36:45

and and. I don't know,

36:47

like I love it, like it's my favorite genre. I

36:49

have like a tattoo that says one forty bpm. You

36:52

know, like bow really lake? Thus it.

36:55

Yet at on as one forty hell yeah

36:58

I come lot of and thus the lead

37:00

I for us. To. Sigma

37:02

example. Yeah. I mean I

37:04

love I love that sambo. I love

37:06

lake. the sounds the there's a pulling

37:08

on the I loved techno. I love.

37:11

Garber. I love hard core and

37:13

it's cool see here that in a

37:16

collaboration between you guys because the both

37:18

of you are kind of pushing these

37:20

John Reese forward and being the first

37:22

to try out new sounds. So this

37:24

C P I think as a really

37:26

great distillation. Of what makes both

37:28

of your sounds perfect and and

37:31

the mess together so well. Ah

37:33

mau. Beautifully. Said assistance

37:35

and think there. Is

37:38

and receive Really. By. Having

37:40

the luxury of like. You.

37:43

Know, I guess I'd repositioning

37:45

myself. could I'm really known

37:47

or mired in music and

37:49

I really the like. He

37:52

now whenever thought that was nice about like

37:54

what I want to do for future star

37:56

for like where I see myself and what

37:59

I hear. When I go

38:01

to like other countries and just like

38:03

where do I want a position myself

38:05

it was. It's really fun being able

38:07

to I get that say so like

38:10

we jumped around. we did make some

38:12

rat records he gave get on like

38:14

as a teacher at Hey Beat and

38:17

Legs. we did like you know the

38:19

orthodox. Week on as you stuff

38:21

but I'm. It was like really really

38:23

far been able to step into this race

38:25

of like being sexy and girly anti again,

38:27

give up the my one was lives and

38:29

we got. Of feminine.

38:32

Song. From Reagan

38:34

as the that was it a feature

38:36

will I genuinely you know and a

38:38

price on that came out your. As

38:41

is losing him to go. There are people

38:43

for the summit's I'm like we were in

38:45

their going like crazy when we may. Hi

38:47

I've felt like. That's when

38:50

I know like disease to come out now.

39:03

Like I. Don't want to way a do that

39:05

at the they tell a day. Where does all

39:07

that I had No. Means this. So

39:09

bed. Yeah I'm and to

39:11

to see you because as old as

39:13

as we said earlier we'd we did

39:16

have more song we had this we

39:18

se do have this other on really

39:20

really sick Safety Zones collaborations but in

39:23

the and records like you know what

39:25

that says keep it really tie. Three

39:28

four songs. They. Really matched

39:30

together. Simple well and I think those

39:32

are great. Great thing to do know.

39:35

It's weird to as we were talking about like

39:37

the info and all of that. I

39:39

think it's so funny that legs didn't really have

39:41

a lot and. On the spot.

39:43

Yeah. We didn't really plan any day

39:46

as ignites. That's another reason why as

39:48

soldiers or four hours the decide my

39:50

coffee bean projects like I feel like

39:52

he now being aren't is getting science

39:54

or major he didn't really get caught

39:56

up in like. The. Budget and legit of

39:58

everything The budget of me to be. The idea that

40:00

a lot of apps like you know and

40:02

I mean and and you lose lie. The.

40:05

Fine and just. Me

40:07

know what? I realize? This can be

40:09

some tacky as say it but I love this for

40:11

meets. The like life as a movie

40:13

like there was a plan time where you

40:16

had to. Dress up and

40:18

do audience and get ready

40:20

for portraying yourself. For.

40:22

This lifestyle. And now

40:24

i see that the lifestyle just

40:26

as like as as go out

40:28

with a camera in. People's.

40:31

And if they had a meal are

40:33

people gonna wanna be in the video

40:35

or Amd? can it get until and

40:37

apart Kill I like it. doesn't really

40:40

acid the. On a pressure. My

40:42

thoughts on what I want change at every year

40:44

that I get older. And. Started

40:46

and nineteen. So. Every.

40:49

Year they get older like a different

40:51

goals. You know Ricky, you have such

40:53

a good hard and you're such a

40:55

good mind And you know. That

40:57

comes with growing up As like realizing.

41:00

What? Really? Is. Important.

41:03

It's. Really crazy lie gives you get

41:05

older and and and as medicines I

41:08

want the younger generation z years as

41:10

I do like. We play

41:12

so much pressure like the push out myself.

41:14

And twenty one two and two. Shit.

41:17

Even twenty four and like the pressures

41:19

the know myself at that age was

41:21

like. Insane. And

41:23

that sang Loosen up for our the

41:25

pricing yourself. I'm an unsuccessful birthday and

41:27

I was putting so. Much work hard

41:30

go out and will say do

41:32

that know about Also. Realize

41:34

that whatever goals you set it

41:36

for yourself, if you don't need

41:39

some. Good. You probably won't even

41:41

want to meet them. As they

41:43

have been six years. Later you.evil.

41:46

Were real, Lives. That's what we

41:48

go through in this and I'd sworn

41:50

is is right. I'm not a real

41:52

adult. I'm not a real adults. Sued

41:54

Have this said? The drug bust your

41:56

ass shit at that age is is

41:58

like it's is not. Then why did

42:00

you hit. Twenty Five is

42:03

when I feel like I started

42:05

developing like okay laden in it.

42:08

We will be here for a while. sister said

42:10

a for as the purpose of. You

42:13

know, I just got a leg relax a little.

42:15

The. Can. Do the imposter syndrome

42:17

I sell like. You.

42:20

Know your name is a reality so

42:22

literally listen to Ariana says that on

42:24

the days where you might not sell

42:26

your bags of what do you do

42:29

used to spreads hand see and I

42:31

think that it's sat having separate fans

42:33

who was Temperance and but and the

42:35

long run when you can look back

42:37

on days and like am I made

42:39

it to which straight they I'm a

42:41

day of a sure they will kill

42:44

the earlier in this day and I

42:46

did not let briggs so that a

42:48

day they're bringing genuine joy. Lights like.

42:50

When I when not in I said my

42:52

so I'm like oh huge how to play

42:54

like you want me to his exit devil

42:56

what of us at. Literally sustains

42:58

it. Can. Given that that's what

43:01

impresses and Johnny's it's really like. Seven.

43:04

Yard so i your brain come

43:06

busy desert so is gonna fall

43:09

off line in like it's not

43:11

were okay. Everything is moving

43:13

at the pace. That said, So.

43:16

To the bus which last. Zola

43:18

Love you both agree ending in

43:21

some sage advice from Reagan us

43:23

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43:25

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43:31

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