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contains some intense descriptions
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of sexual assault.
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I met up with Don Miller one day this spring at
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a barbecue place on the edge of Stephenville. He
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pulled up in an enormous truck. I
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climbed in and we headed south out of town.
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Shannon and I together have never
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been to the park. Yeah. Just so you
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know that, but I mean, I'm familiar with
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it and can walk you through
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it anyway. I thought
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I knew which park it was and then
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when I was driving up this morning, I looked at it and I said, there's
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no way, it's too public. Well,
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the, so
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the park has changed over the years back
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when the assault happened. About a year
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after Susan Woods was killed, investigators
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learned of another brutal
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crime. A 16-year-old
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girl from Stephenville, beaten and bloody,
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told them she'd been raped in this park. Does
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the park have a name? No,
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it's just a typical
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roadside
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park. The park
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wasn't much bigger than a football field. We
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crept through it and parked at the far end.
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All right, well, this is the one I thought. Yeah.
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I mean, there's a reason, right by the road.
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Right by the road, but if
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somebody's gonna come in, he's gonna see them. There's
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nobody gonna come up behind him. That's true,
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and the traffic's going fast enough. Yeah. And
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it was dark. There's no
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lights out here. Zeke and I were at nighttime,
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this place is pitch black.
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The
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victim told investigators who'd done it.
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She'd given them the name, Joseph
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Scott Hatley. Don first
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heard of this years later when a database
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matched the fingerprints at Susan's house to
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Hatley, a man Don hadn't heard
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of and someone no one had
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suspected. And you
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got the file from the DA and you start going
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through it and it's a you know it's a it's
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an awful rape case but there's
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nothing that really links it to Susan's. What
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then did for you? What happened? Well
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the the striking thing
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in her original statement to the original
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investigators was this.
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He told Shannon I will
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probably make you a star like
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a star in the heaven and he told her I have
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killed before.
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I have killed before. By
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the time I'd gotten to that point I
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knew that Hatley was
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the man who had killed Susan Woods.
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The
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murder investigation had been cold
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for almost 20 years but Don realized
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this clue had been there all along. This
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other case could have been the key that the Stephenville
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police had been looking for. But
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instead what happened here and what came
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next shows that the mistakes,
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the injustice really, were more
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widespread than anyone realized.
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From Texas Monthly this is Stephenville.
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I'm your host Brian Burra. This
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is episode 4 Shannon.
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At Stephenville High School in 1988 about
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a decade after Susan Woods graduated
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one of the new faces in the crowd was Shannon
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Myers.
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Shannon was 15 years old that year
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petite with close-cropped strawberry
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blonde hair and if you saw her
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in that crowd there was a good chance you would
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hear her first. I was not very
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quiet at all I was very I stayed
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in my opinion. I would
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just tell it how it is. If I didn't like something,
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I changed it.
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And I went
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to school, hated it,
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because I did not feel accepted.
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Shannon had come to town a few years earlier
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with her mom, an older sister, from Arkansas.
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In Stephenville, where most folks pretty much knew
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everyone else's story, Shannon
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was not only a newcomer, but a bit of a
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misfit. I
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was a partied
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animal. It was a college town.
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Stephenville was a college town. So
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Monday through Saturday, I partied
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the whole time.
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She says she and her mom would fight. It
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got so bad that every now and then her mom
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would threaten to send Shannon back to live with
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her dad. Shannon says she never
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had a curfew.
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She came and went pretty much as she pleased,
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and she had her reasons for staying away. My
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home life was very... I
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was a very troubled child. I
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would say that I was very troubled. I
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had a
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lot of molestation
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going on at that time. And
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so that's kind
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of what set me
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up to become Scott's victim, is what I
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believe. Scott Hatley
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was a local kid, stout and blind,
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usually on the quiet side. He was a good
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seven years older than Shannon. When she
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was 15, he was already a young man
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at 22, already going through a divorce and
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working for his father, delivering ice
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around town. As it happened,
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Hatley's older sister Regina lived
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next door to Shannon's family in a little development.
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That summer, when Shannon got bored
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during the long hot days, she
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became friendly with Scott's cousin Melissa,
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who'd come over to watch Regina's baby.
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Melissa was about 19 or 20, and for Shannon's daughter,
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and it was kind of cool to hang out with
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a slightly older woman. I was like, you
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know what, I always liked the way she
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did her makeup and everything. And she was fun
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to hang around with, Melissa. So I mean, we
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hung out a lot of times over,
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you know, Regina's house, watching
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the baby. It was, you know,
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it was just something to do.
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This is how she met Scott Hadley. He
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walked in and we
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kind of made eye contact and everything. And
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he just started paying attention to me. And
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something,
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no one ever took the time to sit down and really
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talk to me. And
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I was like, you know, this is
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nice, you know, just having someone to
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talk to.
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He was nothing too deep, just everyday
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joking and making conversation.
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Scott Selim talked about his own life
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or where he'd been or his divorce.
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But to Shannon, this attention from an older
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guy, it meant a lot. He
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just seemed like a sweet guy
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that I could talk to. He
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cared about what I said.
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And he
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just showed interest in me. And
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he encouraged me to make a little bit better
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choices. And
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I went over there, started going over there at nighttime
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when he was there.
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How long from one minute
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to two months did it take you to
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realize what he was primarily interested
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in?
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Oh, it took two days to
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see what he was interested in. I mean, immediately
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we started having sex
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and we immediately started, you know, having
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a relationship.
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It happened on Regina's couch. We
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were just, he turned over and he kissed me. And I was,
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I mean, you know, turned around and kissed me. I was like, oh,
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okay.
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After that, they started meeting up at Regina's
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house. house, and they'd have sex there, often
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in the bathroom. Regina Hadley
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passed away in 2010, but
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Shannon's confident this wasn't some big
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secret.
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Scott's sister and her husband knew she
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was a high schooler. Shannon
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and Scott settled into a kind of routine.
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I was still going out with my friends, and
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I would come home, and either he and
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I would meet up, or we'd
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meet up to talk, or we'd meet up
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for sex. It just, you know, it's just
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varied. Mind you, back then
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we didn't have cell phones, you know. It was
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the good old landline. And
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so he
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was always, like when I'd pull up,
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immediately he was in the backyard waiting
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for me because I would let
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my dog Dee Dee out. And
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then, you know, I would see him, the smoke,
8:53
or I would smell the smoke
8:56
of his cigarette. He would drink,
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I mean, he'd always have a drink in his hand
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every time I saw him.
9:02
It didn't matter what time of the day
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he would drink. It was
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just like water to him. And so you knew he
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was out in the backyard waiting for you? I knew he was out in the backyard.
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Eventually, though, Shannon's mother
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grew suspicious. I spent a little bit too
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much time over at the Regina's, and
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then she saw us together a few
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times, and she didn't
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like the age difference. That's
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her whole thing. And she goes, you're
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15, you're not supposed to be doing this. And
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I remember yelling at her, well, be a mom, show
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me what I'm supposed to do. And
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that didn't go too well.
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Shannon says her mom actually did confront
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Hadley about the relationship. Apparently,
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there was an argument in the Kmart parking lot.
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But between Shannon and her mom, it
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all kind of blew over and just went away. One
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more fight, like all the others they'd had before.
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We still saw each other, so it didn't,
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you know, my mom telling us not to,
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didn't stop. I think it kind of feared the fire a
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little bit because I was, you know, I was
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something that he could, it's not supposed to have.
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Shannon says she still liked the attention
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she got from Scott, but she saw it as
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a casual thing. To her,
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this didn't have the makings of a serious relationship.
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In hindsight, though, there were warning
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signs.
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Looking back now,
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you know, 15, 16, naive
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me, did not see it at all.
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He was very controlling.
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He wanted to know exactly where I was at
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at all times, you know, with like, he'd
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be there, you know, when I leave, hey, where
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are you going? And I would tell him, and
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what time are you going to be home?
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He just, he kept telling me,
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you know, that I'm special, I'm the special
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one. And
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that, that still today, since,
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you know, shivers through my spine because,
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you know, it
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just does.
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By the end of that summer of 1987, something
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else had changed, though it'd be years before
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Shannon understood why. But
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she saw it when Scott was with his friends, especially
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when every now and then, the conversation
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turned to the murder of Susan Woods.
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And I do remember a little
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bit of small talk about Susan.
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When I was over there, they didn't really talk talk
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that much. You know, it was more jokingly
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and more laughing and cutting up. So
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I do remember the
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demeanor around there being like
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shifted. And
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Scott's attitude was a
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little bit different, meaning
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he
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just, he was, he
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was a little bit on edge. Scott
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had just gotten an apartment of his own, and
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Shannon had met up with him there a couple of times,
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further out of the sight of her mom.
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One night in September, she went to see him
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there, and she brought along her little white poodle,
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Dee Dee. I
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couldn't really tell you what made
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me go over there on that night. At
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first it was kind of like all the other times
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they'd gotten together, but she says what
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happened next came out of the blue.
12:12
When they began to have sex, he seemed
12:14
more forceful, more aggressive. It
12:16
was different. I mean, it was just the way
12:19
that he and I were having sex, it was very
12:21
different. It was very, and I
12:24
kind of backed away. I was like, hey, stop,
12:27
you know. Well, as soon as I said stop,
12:29
all hell broke loose.
12:31
And his
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eyes just was just like coldness
12:36
in it. She says that transformation,
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that turn to violence, it happened
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just that fast. I just told him
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that, you know, you're hurting me and to
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stop. And, you know,
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me telling him no made him mad.
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And he took
12:54
a knife out and held it to
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my throat, and
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he was raping me. And then I finally
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pushed him off me, and I
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grabbed my dog, and I ran out. I got my clothes,
13:06
and I ran out.
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Dee Dee had started growling at Scott,
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and Shannon was afraid he might turn on the dog
13:13
next. You told me before,
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when we talked about this briefly, that the
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main reason you didn't object more forcefully
13:21
was you were worried about your dog? Yes,
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I was worried about my dog. I did
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not want my dog to get harmed.
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Me, you know, 15-year-old
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me, I was worried about my dog. And
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then there she was, racing down
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the sidewalk with Dee Dee in the dark. I
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ran out, and I was, you know, crying
13:43
and upset. And he
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gets in his truck. And
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he goes, Get in. And I'm like, No, you
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hurt me. How could you? He
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goes, I'm sorry. Get in. He goes, Let
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me take you home. I was like,
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and you know, No, no, you know. And
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he goes well get in I told
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you to get in I'm going to take you home. I'm
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sorry I didn't mean to hurt you. I love
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you and
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I looked at him,
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and I didn't see that anger in
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his face anymore I could
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see that you know he truly meant that
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he was sorry that he hurt me and Stupid 15
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year old me got in the vehicle
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and he did take me home What
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happened when you got there? He
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looked at me and you know and and put
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his hand on my face and said I'm sorry. I love
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you and You know 15
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year old little me. Love you back. You
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know and I Had
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to tell my mom and I think that was the hardest part
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was telling my mom Basically
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she goes I told you not to do this you're
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gonna get see this is what what you
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get for you being with him you're in trouble
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and
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you know being
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You know molested and raped and everything
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I was like okay. It's my fault. It's me. It's
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me It's not you know I was
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always in the wrong. It's the way I felt
15:08
But
15:08
her mom did insist she had to go tell
15:10
the police
15:11
She went to the station and sat down for
15:14
an interview. She explained what had happened
15:16
at Scott's apartment But
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once Shannon said she and Scott had
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been in an ongoing sexual relationship She
15:22
could sense the officer growing skeptical
15:25
But
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Shannon says she didn't hear from the officer
15:28
again She told me she understands
15:30
now that they saw this as a he said
15:32
she said situation She was
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still new to many in town and she had a reputation
15:37
for being as she's the first to point out
15:39
a little wild Of course she
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was also a minor seven years
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younger than Scott by law in Texas
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Sex between someone 18 or older and
15:49
someone 16 or younger is statutory
15:52
rape
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But state law was different back in 1988
15:56
and it gave Scott an out he could simply
15:58
claim the sex was consensual At
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the same time that Donnie Hensley was
16:03
trying to figure out who'd sexually assaulted
16:05
and killed Susan Woods, interviewing
16:08
her friends and staking out her ex-husband,
16:10
the Stephenville police were sitting on another
16:12
complaint of a violent sexual assault, Shannon's,
16:16
against the man whose fingerprints were all over
16:18
Susan's bathroom.
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And this might have been a very different story
16:23
if the Stephenville police had arrested and fingerprinted
16:25
Scott right then. But
16:27
that didn't happen.
16:29
Nothing happened.
16:31
In the meantime, Shannon tried to move
16:33
on. She started dating a boy from school.
16:36
It was nice, not too complicated.
16:39
We would drive the drag. That
16:41
was through Sonic, through McDonald's. It
16:43
was just a small town. We
16:46
would just have fun. Fishing in the lake or some
16:48
good
16:48
old fun. He
16:53
would protect me from Scott because Scott
16:55
would show up at a few places and I was like,
16:57
Scott's here. And he goes, okay.
17:01
She says she pretty well managed to avoid
17:03
Scott for a while. Because I was scared.
17:06
I was scared of what he would do. And
17:10
I felt the
17:12
need to call him and ask him why. Here's
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the rebellist 15, 16 year
17:18
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Shannon and her boyfriend eventually split up.
19:00
Then one night, she went over to Regina's house
19:02
while Scott was there. Walt, we threw
19:04
what happened? He just
19:07
told me, he goes, hey, I miss you. This
19:09
was July 1988, nine
19:12
months after the rape and a
19:14
year after Susan's death.
19:16
He goes, hey, he goes, can I talk
19:18
to you? And I'm like, yeah. He goes, I miss
19:20
you. And I'm like, oh, I miss you too.
19:24
And we just immediately started
19:26
having a conversation, started talking again.
19:29
After that, she started noticing
19:31
him around town. You know, it was just say
19:34
hi to each other in passing. I
19:36
still kind of felt a little uneasy. You
19:39
know, I feared him a little bit. But
19:43
I just, you know, just kept him at
19:45
a distance.
19:46
But then Scott started asking to
19:48
see her again, alone.
19:51
He kept calling. He would put Regina
19:54
up to calling me. And
19:56
he said, Shannon, I really want to see
19:59
you tonight.
19:59
And I asked him, I said, why
20:02
tonight? And he goes, I just need to see you. And
20:05
he goes, I need to explain why I did
20:07
what I did to you. And
20:11
the 16-year-old me always
20:13
wanted answers. She agreed
20:15
to meet him at a laundromat a few
20:17
blocks from her house. And
20:19
I got into the vehicle, and
20:22
I immediately knew I
20:24
made a mistake
20:26
immediately. And
20:28
he goes, come over and sit beside me before
20:31
we drove off. And I was like,
20:33
OK. And just the way he
20:35
was
20:36
telling me and talking to me was totally
20:39
different. He had aggression
20:42
behind his voice. And
20:45
I was doing exactly what he
20:47
wanted me to do, because I was afraid.
20:49
I was afraid that, OK, what is he
20:51
going to do?
20:55
As Shannon struggled to keep her composure,
20:57
she realized Scott was driving them out of town.
21:00
After a few minutes, he coasted to a stop
21:03
in a roadside park on the side of a two-lane
21:05
state highway,
21:06
the same park where I spoke with Don. It
21:09
was pitch dark. And
21:11
I was a little taken
21:13
back. Why that roadside
21:15
park? And that roadside park,
21:17
to kind of paint the picture, you
21:20
couldn't see. It was like a hill down
21:22
to that roadside park. So I mean, if cars
21:25
are going past, you couldn't hear. You couldn't
21:27
see. I mean, you
21:29
would not know a vehicle or anybody
21:31
was down there. So
21:34
I think it was all planned.
21:36
On the way there, Shannon says, he
21:39
began by speaking softly.
21:41
He told me that he loved me, that we were
21:44
destined to be together. And
21:47
I'm just wanting to be loved and accepted.
21:49
So I'm like, OK, I do kind
21:52
of love the guy. And this
21:55
is what I want to hear, of course,
21:57
like
21:59
as soon as we can. we got there,
22:01
everything changed. I mean, just
22:04
like the look in his eyes and
22:06
everything. And I knew I was in trouble. I
22:08
knew it immediately. And
22:10
immediately he wanted to have sex. And
22:13
I told him no, I couldn't.
22:15
And he wouldn't take no for
22:17
an answer. At some point,
22:19
they got out of the truck. And
22:22
he slapped me. And I've
22:25
never been hit before. So
22:29
by my boyfriend. And
22:31
so I, I was like, what,
22:34
you know,
22:36
what do I do? I just stood still,
22:39
like paralyzed him out, you know, in my
22:41
own feet. And
22:45
he, he immediately
22:47
started, you know, taking off my clothes and
22:49
and we
22:51
ended up having intercourse and everything.
22:54
And it was, it was brutal. And
22:58
he started hitting me and knocking
23:02
me unconscious the whole time.
23:04
This was by one of the covered picnic
23:07
tables. That's just one of the places
23:09
where Scott attacked her. There's a
23:11
muddy little drainage ditch further
23:13
down the hill. Shannon remembers the water
23:15
was running because it had rained a few
23:18
days earlier. Scott pushed her face
23:20
down in the water and attacked her there too.
23:23
There was no explanation of
23:25
why he was doing this to me. None.
23:27
He would just, he kept telling me, um,
23:32
do you see the stars up there? And
23:34
he goes, I can make you one of those stars.
23:37
You better, you better do what exactly
23:39
what I want you to do.
23:41
At one point, Shannon got
23:43
up and tried to run away. But Scott
23:45
chased her down, fell on top of her and
23:48
said the words that Shannon later recounted
23:50
to investigators, the ones that
23:52
caught Don Miller's ear all those
23:54
years later.
23:56
Scott said, quote, if you don't
23:58
mind me, I'll kill you.
24:00
And I've done it before.
24:02
I thought to myself, I'm like,
24:06
I'm not going to make it out here alive. I've
24:09
got to find a way where people
24:11
would know that I was here.
24:15
And so I had a hairpin
24:17
in my hair and I left it,
24:19
you know, at a certain spot. And
24:22
I had my bra,
24:25
I left that at a certain spot, my panties,
24:27
I left that at a certain spot. That
24:29
way, you know,
24:31
at least they knew that that was my white bra
24:34
in my 16-year-old little brain.
24:37
They knew out of thousands of women that wore
24:39
that bra, they knew it was mine.
24:42
Shannon says he would beat her and
24:44
rape her and she would pass out.
24:47
And then she'd wake up to find him smoking
24:49
a cigarette and sipping his drink.
24:52
And then it would start all over again.
24:55
I could feel my face swelling as
24:57
he, you know, hit me countless
25:00
times. With his fist and
25:03
he would pull my hair, I
25:05
could feel the blood
25:08
coming out of my ear. He
25:11
also would choke me to keep me quiet.
25:14
A
25:14
few times I had to have, you know, he would take my hands and
25:16
put it behind my back, or he
25:19
would hold my wrist
25:21
super tight. How
25:24
long did this last? Six
25:28
to eight hours. I
25:32
knew I had to turn the tables on
25:34
him. In order to survive, I knew
25:36
I had to manipulate
25:38
him and
25:40
convince him
25:42
that I loved him, convince
25:44
him that we were destined
25:46
to be together because he kept telling me
25:48
that a few times, ever and ever.
25:51
He kept saying, you
25:53
know, you don't know what love is. I'm like,
25:55
but you need to show me. It
25:58
wasn't right away.
25:59
But Shannon says she kept talking like this,
26:02
and finally he relented. This
26:05
was around four in the morning, and
26:07
they'd returned to the cab of the truck.
26:09
Scott knew Shannon's stepfather got
26:11
up at 5 a.m.
26:13
He knew when she would need to be home.
26:15
But as they prepared to leave, Shannon
26:18
realized she had a serious problem.
26:20
We were in the cabin of the truck, and
26:23
he turned to light-on. And
26:25
I remember thinking, I've got to hide
26:27
my face. So I looked down real fast,
26:30
and he couldn't see the bruises. He
26:34
couldn't see the swelling.
26:35
And he
26:37
was caressing the side of my face, and
26:40
he goes, Are you okay?
26:42
And I'm like, I'm okay. And
26:44
I said, I just want to start my life with you.
26:48
He goes, Don't you turn me in?
26:50
And I told him that I would not. I would
26:53
say that I didn't know who did this to
26:55
me. I said, I'm not going to say anything. And
27:00
he believed me.
27:03
They drove along the dark little highway
27:05
back into town. Shannon sat
27:08
close beside Scott, where he told her to.
27:11
The whole way, she was terrified he
27:13
would see the blood and the bruises and realize
27:15
the severity of what he'd done.
27:17
He'd have to know that this time the rape could
27:19
not be swept under a rug.
27:22
But Shannon's luck held.
27:23
He didn't notice.
27:25
He left her in the laundromat parking lot
27:27
just before the sun rose.
27:31
At the laundromat, I've never
27:33
ran so fast in my life. I
27:35
ran home, and my
27:38
stepfather was getting out, walking
27:41
out of the bedroom. It was just minutes.
27:46
And he goes, What happened to
27:48
you? And I fell into
27:50
his arms, and I said, Scott did this to
27:52
me. And he hollered
27:54
for my mom. And
27:57
he goes, We've got to take her in.
29:52
to
30:00
be his next victim. And
30:02
I, they didn't listen to me. By
30:06
next victim, Shannon meant he would
30:08
make good on his threat to kill her, just
30:10
like he said he'd done before. She'd
30:12
made sure investigators knew he said this,
30:15
but it seems not to have made much of an impression
30:17
on the deputies, all of whom have since
30:19
passed away.
30:21
Even though Donnie Hensley was looking
30:23
for a murderer, he was never told any
30:26
of this. He doesn't even remember hearing
30:28
about Shannon's case.
30:30
The investigations were happening in separate buildings
30:32
and separate jurisdictions. When
30:35
it came time for Shannon to go home, the
30:37
only thing that calmed her was the news that
30:39
Scott had disappeared and apparently
30:41
fled town.
30:43
It was a relief knowing she wouldn't drive up
30:45
and hear him in Regina's backyard.
30:47
Still, once back home, she struggled with
30:50
what had happened. I had
30:52
a stepfather that believed that
30:54
this happened. My friends believed it
30:56
happened, but my friends didn't know what
30:59
extent I went through because
31:01
they could see the physical
31:03
scars. But the
31:05
emotional scars,
31:07
the trauma that
31:10
I received, they didn't see that because
31:13
I kept it hidden from them.
31:15
And because I didn't want them to feel
31:18
the same pain I felt.
31:21
For now, Shannon tried to get on with her life.
31:23
She was heading into her junior year of high school.
31:26
She tried not to think about that long
31:28
night in the park.
31:29
She and her friends would cruise the drag or go
31:31
to parties at Tarleton State. And
31:34
when an investigator started making the rounds,
31:36
asking about Shannon,
31:38
she assumed this was part of the case against Scott.
31:41
Well, that I'm proud of an investigator said,
31:44
you know, I'm a proud of an investigator, but they he
31:46
didn't say he was working for Scott's
31:49
family. So of course, my
31:51
family just, you know, my Uncle Dawn
31:54
was, you know,
31:55
saying all that what he wanted to say.
31:58
And a few of my friends were saying. what
32:01
they thought that would help my case. And
32:05
instead, it hurt my case.
32:08
Eventually, Shannon learned the district
32:10
attorney had taken the rape investigation
32:12
to a grand jury. And she'd also
32:15
gotten word that Scott had gotten into trouble
32:17
and ended up in jail.
32:19
In Las Vegas, of all places, where
32:21
it was said he'd robbed a hotel clerk. It
32:23
was a relief to know Scott was so far away.
32:26
But then, suddenly,
32:28
everything changed. And
32:32
we were out one night at the
32:34
drag. And I was
32:36
going home for a long drive. And
32:40
I ran into Scott.
32:41
And he was going
32:45
into a grocery store, a
32:47
little convenience store. And
32:49
I couldn't believe my eyes. I
32:52
drove 85 miles an hour down
32:54
to the sheriff's office and
32:57
said, Scott is back. Scott is back. I was frantic.
33:00
And they were like, no, he's not. No, he's not.
33:03
Yes, he was. And they
33:05
didn't even know that he was back in town. He'd
33:08
been released from jail and had returned
33:11
to Stephenville. Now, even
33:13
more terrifying, Shannon says Scott
33:15
began to follow her around town.
33:18
I was at the skating rink. He was showing
33:20
up at the skating rink. I
33:22
would be at a teak party. He
33:24
would show up at the
33:26
teak party. She waited for word that he'd been arrested,
33:29
that he'd go away for what he'd done. And
33:32
finally, one day, a letter arrived for
33:34
her.
33:35
My mom was not home. My
33:39
stepfather was at work. And
33:42
I opened the mail up. And I was
33:44
reading it. And I'm like, what does this
33:46
mean, not indicting
33:49
them? Me, lack of evidence.
33:52
And it was just like
33:54
those words could have been in Spanish because
33:57
I couldn't even read it. And.
34:00
I was just, I was confused. I was hurt.
34:03
I felt like I was raped
34:06
ever again. Now
34:08
I don't know how much more evidence that they needed.
34:12
If the police, if they would have looked,
34:15
they would have saw a similarity
34:18
to my case and to Susan's case.
34:21
Why the grand jury chose not to indict
34:23
Scott with such clear physical evidence
34:25
of the violence he'd done is a mystery.
34:28
Those proceedings are still a secret.
34:31
I did put the question to Don Miller, who
34:33
was in town at the time, although he wasn't involved
34:35
in the case. What did you make
34:38
of the situation, the legal situation
34:41
surrounding Shannon's 1988 accusation of
34:43
rape? What
34:46
did you piece together that actually happened back in
34:48
the day?
34:49
We're going to come back to the
34:52
way Stephenville was. It
34:54
was a nice, quiet little community.
35:00
And Joseph Scott Hatley was a
35:02
fair-haired, blue-eyed boy.
35:04
Grew up with a nice family. As
35:06
far as anybody knew, he was nice. Now,
35:10
what the Hatley family had done was they did
35:12
hire a private investigator. And
35:15
the private investigator did a hatchet job
35:17
on Shannon.
35:19
Don says the way the law was written
35:21
back then gave Scott another out. Even
35:24
for such a violent crime and with an
35:26
underage victim, the law provided
35:29
a defense where an accuser was considered
35:31
promiscuous. And that's exactly
35:33
how it appears Shannon was being portrayed.
35:36
This loophole was only closed years
35:38
later after a vigorous public backlash.
35:41
And apparently the private
35:43
detective had enough people talking
35:47
bad about Shannon to where
35:50
the grand jury chose not to indict Hatley,
35:54
which didn't
35:56
make any sense to me. Now, mind you, I wasn't
35:59
the... I'm the investigating officer,
36:02
but I'm looking at photographs of this
36:04
little 16-year-old girl and she's been beaten.
36:07
She's been beaten bad.
36:09
They've got forensic evidence. I mean,
36:11
they went straight to the hospital. They did a rape
36:14
kit. They've got everything in the world. And
36:16
I'm sitting there, how ...
36:18
It didn't make any sense to me. It
36:20
did not make any sense to me.
36:23
I put the question to Shannon, too. Let
36:26
me ask you one other thing about
36:29
Stephenville and the justice system. There's
36:32
two ways of looking at what happened to you. One
36:35
is the justice system let
36:37
you down. Okay, that's fine,
36:39
except we're really not talking about justice. We're talking
36:41
about Stephenville justice. Do
36:44
you think the town,
36:46
the culture, those who
36:48
would not look
36:50
rationally at a young woman with a
36:52
story such as yours, do you think Stephenville
36:56
at the time bears any responsibility
36:59
for what you went through? Absolutely. 100%, I
37:02
believe, that they ... Stephenville
37:07
at that time, the
37:10
sheriff's department, they didn't
37:13
want to see past what
37:16
they wanted to see. They had Blonders' Zone.
37:18
They saw
37:20
this wild child, her
37:22
own mother is having issues
37:24
with her, and they
37:27
couldn't see past that. I
37:30
don't think they wanted to investigate it too
37:33
much, honestly, because
37:35
of who they were
37:38
investigating to.
37:40
Because of who they were investigating, Scott's
37:43
family were business owners in town and
37:45
had been for years. His sister
37:47
Regina's husband worked for the city.
37:50
Regina worked at the electric co-op with
37:52
Donnie Hensley's wife. Shannon
37:54
says even her mother doubted her story
37:56
about what Scott had done.
37:58
In the end, Shannon was pretty much on her
38:00
own. She realizes it even more deeply
38:03
now. And at the time she began
38:05
noticing Scott around town more and more.
38:08
It was almost like the grand jury's
38:10
decision had weirdly empowered him.
38:12
One night at the skating rink she saw him again.
38:15
When he left she asked her friend to take her
38:17
back home. She knew Scott would be
38:20
there over Regina's house like usual.
38:22
Sure enough his
38:24
truck was already in the driveway.
38:26
I had enough. I had enough of
38:29
always looking over my shoulder
38:32
and you know I went
38:35
outside to him and I called
38:37
him out. I'm like Scott you need to come out now.
38:40
I'm not coming out. I'm like quit being a chicken
38:42
shit and come out and
38:46
face me like a man. And
38:48
I stood up to him that night
38:51
and I told
38:53
him to stop. I was like you know you're
38:55
always at Regina's house. You
38:58
know what you did to me and you
39:00
can stop.
39:03
After that she says Scott
39:05
mostly stayed away but her
39:07
life was beginning to crumble. It happened
39:10
fast.
39:11
Her best friend was killed in a motorcycle
39:13
wreck. Her mother and stepfather
39:15
moved away and she stayed behind
39:18
with an uncle. Looking for some
39:20
sort of security she impulsively
39:22
got married to a local boy.
39:25
It lasted 90 days. Honestly
39:27
I was kind of running out of friends and
39:31
because I was going through the molestation
39:34
and sometimes it was you know it was
39:37
it was quite honestly you know a lot.
39:42
You're not gonna know this but I am gonna tell you.
39:49
I almost took my own life and because
39:53
I couldn't hold on for
39:55
much more. So
39:58
I was like you know
39:59
It's either me staying in this town
40:02
and, you know, not being here
40:04
or, you know, moving on.
40:11
She decided she'd had enough of Stephenville.
40:14
She moved back in with her mom near Houston. She
40:17
had a new last name now from her brief
40:19
marriage, which gave her some anonymity.
40:22
When I left Stephenville, I left
40:24
that part of Stephenville behind. I
40:28
didn't look back. I was undercover,
40:30
you know, I felt like, and I felt
40:33
like, okay, I've got to, you know,
40:36
I've got to find me.
40:39
Eventually Shannon started therapy,
40:41
slowly beginning to build a new life.
40:44
She got a job, one of several in fact.
40:48
Within a year Shannon was pregnant. She
40:50
became a mom.
40:53
Most importantly though, she'd made
40:55
it out of Stephenville alive.
41:06
Next time on Stephenville. Okay,
41:14
yeah, so we all have our baggage. We all
41:16
have things that we wish, you know, we didn't
41:18
have to go through as kids. I
41:21
feel like that little
41:24
boys who don't like their mommies are
41:26
not well-adjusted adults. He,
41:29
you know, he writes to
41:31
try to be normal, but he
41:34
knows that he's not a normal person. He knows
41:36
that.
41:42
Thanks to the Texas Advocacy Project
41:44
for research help with this episode. Stephenville
41:48
is a Texas monthly production. The
41:50
show is produced and edited by Patrick
41:52
Michaels and produced and engineered
41:54
by Brian Standifer who also wrote
41:56
the music. Additional production
41:59
is by Jackie Abbarr.
42:00
Story Editing by J.K. Nickel. Paul
42:03
Knight is our fact checker.
42:05
Artwork is by Emily Kimbrough and
42:07
Victoria Milner. I'm
42:09
your host and writer, Brian Burra.
42:12
See you all next week.
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