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The
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year was 2006. Nearly 20
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years had passed since Scott Hatley murdered
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Susan Woods. Much of Stephenville
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had moved on. Few in town
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even remember the killing.
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But not everyone had forgotten, of course. Susan's
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family never gave up waiting for Michael Woods
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to be brought to justice. Michael
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spent his life looking over his shoulder, waiting
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for the real killer to be arrested. And
1:04
as the years ticked by, not much
1:06
happened. Now,
1:08
all of a sudden, things began to move quickly.
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After Don Miller learned the fingerprints in
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Susan's bathroom belonged to Hatley, Don
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made a quick search for Hatley's whereabouts
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and located him in Texas. He was
1:20
living in Round Rock, north of Austin.
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Don called the local police and
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asked them to bring Hatley in for questioning.
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He drove down with his partner, Russell
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Ford.
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Yeah, so, you know, we're
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going down to Round Rock, Texas
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to talk to Hatley, not
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to arrest him, but to talk to him. But
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before I interview him, I get an evidence
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research warrant for his DNA and
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for his fingerprints and his
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palm prints. Now, I know
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for a fact that I'm gonna get
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a match on the DNA and I know that his
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fingerprints are gonna match. And
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I know that his palm.
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the prints are going to match.
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It wasn't just that the federal fingerprint
2:05
database tied Hatley to the prints
2:07
found in Susan Woods' bathroom. What
2:10
made Don certain was what Shannon
2:12
Myers had told the sheriff's deputies back
2:14
in 1988, that while
2:16
Hatley was assaulting her, he'd threatened
2:18
to kill her and said he had killed
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before. I know it's going to be him. I
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know for a fact it's going to be him. All right,
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before you go down there, do
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you have much of a sense
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who Joseph Scott Hatley was in 1987?
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No. No, I didn't know. I
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knew that his parents were respectable
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people, nice people, but
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that's all I knew. Very few people
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knew. I was even working this case because
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Stephen was a small town. I kept
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everything under wraps, so I didn't
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go try to find out who he was. I
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got his fingerprints, you know. I've
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got this statement from this little 16-year-old
2:59
girl. I know who he is. I don't
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know what he is.
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Don knew
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there were lots of people in Stephenville
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who would still look at Scott Hatley and see
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the young man they thought they knew. Not
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a murderer and a rapist, but a quiet,
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clean-cut local kid, one of
3:16
their own. But Don had
3:18
seen enough to know just who he was dealing
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with. The date was June 6,
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6-6 of 06. As
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the two officers headed south, Don
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turned to his partner
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and told him it was an appropriate day to
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meet the devil himself.
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From Texas Monthly, this is Stephenville.
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I'm your host, Brian Burrough.
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This is the final episode, Episode 6.
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Hatley.
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Much later, Don would come to know Hatley
3:55
well from the writings he left behind. Those
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pages didn't just tell the story.
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of Hatley's life as a free man after
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Susan's murder, they also helped to
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answer a vexing question. How
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had Hatley gotten away with not just one
4:09
vicious crime, but two? And how
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had he gotten away with it for so long?
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As Hatley tells it, he could hardly
4:16
believe it himself.
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Three
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days after Susan Woods's body
4:20
was discovered, her family and friends
4:23
gathered in a chapel at the Stephenville
4:25
Funeral Home to say goodbye. As
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they looked around the room, they wondered
4:30
if her husband Michael would show his face.
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He didn't. But Scott Hatley
4:35
did. In his handwritten manifesto,
4:38
he says hundreds of people were there. He
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saw police among them, quote, trying
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to get a glimpse of their elusive suspect.
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And
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as the days went on, Hatley
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clearly relished the fact that no one seemed
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to suspect him. He didn't claim
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to have committed the perfect murder. In
4:56
fact, the carelessness of his crime made
4:58
it seem all the more incredible that he was still
5:00
free. He said, quote, I
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figure even Barney Fife could have figured this
5:05
one out.
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In his sister Regina's kitchen,
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he and other members of the round table
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endlessly debated who might have killed Susan.
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Only he knew that the killer was in their
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midst. While there, Hatley
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even fielded regular updates on the police
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investigation from his cousin, Cindy
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Hallmark and her boyfriend, Roy Hayes.
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Donny Hensley and Joe Atkins were
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really good friends. They're from the golf
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course and stuff. He
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would learn stuff from Donny. Joe
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would come home and share it with Irma.
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That's Roy talking about Susan's parents,
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Joe and Irma Atkins. And in
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the months after Susan's murder, Cindy
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would sit with Irma often and they
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would grieve together. Cindy would
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console her and ask if there was any news.
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So Irma was sharing stuff to Cindy. Cindy,
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of course, would come to the round table that Scott
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describes. You know, Scott would ask... questions,
6:00
Regina would ask questions, and we'd
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talk about the way the case was proceeding and why
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it hasn't been solved, what's going on,
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and you know why hadn't they made an arrest, why didn't they
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have Mike
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booked and brought back down to Texas and why he
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wasn't in prison or jail.
6:15
One aspect of the case seemed to especially
6:18
fascinate Scott.
6:19
He was drinking heavily and making
6:22
jokes like he'd call the cops the Keystone
6:24
Cops and you know if you wanted to find
6:26
a cop you need to go to the donut store that they were all down
6:28
at the donut shop and if the murderer wandered in there they
6:30
might be able to find the murderer or Jake and
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Dorothy's.
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In his journal, Hatley says he couldn't believe
6:36
it. The police never even interviewed
6:38
him, though he'd been at the roundtable with
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Susan a week or so before she was
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murdered.
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He wrote, my god, how
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could the cops have missed that?
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He mocked the police for fixating on
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Michael Woods. He called Michael,
6:52
yet another one of my victims.
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Gloria Martin remembers seeing him around
6:57
this time. Well my birthday
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was in March in 88 and
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it was nine months after Susan had been
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killed or eight months and Roy
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and Cindy brought him with to
7:10
my birthday party at a bar. He wanted to come
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with us. He wanted to come with us. And
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somewhere I've got pictures of him and
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everybody at the party just grinning and you
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know he's just not a carer in the world. Susan
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was the main subject we talked about. Just
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smiling away. Just smiling away. Just as
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innocent as a day as long and all the while
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he knew he's the one that killed her.
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Hatley didn't change his lifestyle. He
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sat in Regina's backyard most nights
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and every weekend smoking
7:38
cigarettes and drinking vodka.
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When a teenage girl moved in next to Regina's
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house, Hatley decided he liked her
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and pursued her. This
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is how he introduces Shannon Myers in
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his life story. He knew it was
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reckless and he could tell she had trouble
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at home but he enjoyed carrying on
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this secret relationship with an underage
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girl. He says of
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Shannon, she was wild. She
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was crazy. I liked her. And
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after the night in his apartment, the first
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time Shannon says he raped her when
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she went to the police and never heard anything,
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she'd always figured the police saw it as a he
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said, she said kind of thing and couldn't
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make the case against it.
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But Hatley's journal tells more of the story.
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He says a Stephenville police officer did
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come speak with him. When Hatley
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saw the officer, he figured this was
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the day he'd been waiting for that they
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look into Shannon's accusation,
8:32
connect him to Susan's murder, and
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now he'd have to answer for his crimes. Instead,
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he says, the lieutenant only warned
8:40
him to stay away from Shannon, who the
8:42
officer said was quote, a screwed up
8:44
little girl. He couldn't believe
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it. He'd alluded the police yet
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again. But now he also began
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to feel that he was being watched. He
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lived near the police station and each
8:56
day he'd watched the cruisers drive by
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hiding behind his window.
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He began fantasizing about leaving
9:03
town on a cross country crime
9:05
spree. He says he thought about taking
9:07
Shannon. They'd be like Bonnie and Clyde,
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but that she didn't go for it.
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He claims they argued about his plan
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on that long brutal night at the roadside
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park. Shannon
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told me she never entertained this crime
9:21
spree fantasy for a moment. It
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doesn't remember fighting about it that night
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or ever. She says the only reason
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she went back to him that night was because she wanted
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answers to understand why he'd
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hurt her before.
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But Hatley wasn't interested in explaining
9:36
anything. In his writings, he
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admits he raped her that night. Don
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told me as far as he knows, this is actually
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the first time Hatley admitted to the crime.
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Meanwhile, the morning after he raped Shannon
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in that park, he awoke to a knock
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on his door. Glancing out through
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the curtains, he saw a sheriff's deputy
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and this time he was not about to answer the
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door.
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Hatley says he found a man.
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He pulled over into a Denny's parking lot
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and as the officers instructed, lay
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flat on the asphalt.
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He was arrested, fingerprinted, and
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booked into a jail. Hatley sensed
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it was a matter of time before the Stephenville
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police arrived to haul him back to Texas
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to answer for the rape and no doubt
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the murder.
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But to his surprise, they never came.
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He couldn't believe it. Instead,
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he received 120-day prison sentence
12:28
in a youth offender program. Then
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he was free,
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heading back to Stephenville in his parents' car.
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He returned to face the rape allegations
12:38
Shannon had leveled against him. He
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says his parents hired a retired attorney,
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this is the private investigator Shannon remembers,
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and that this attorney pretty much destroyed
12:49
Shannon's reputation in front of the grand jury.
12:52
Roy Hayes remembers how Shannon's allegations
12:55
were being spun around town. But
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what we had heard is that Scott had
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broke up with her, she did not
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take the rejection well,
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and that she started accusing
13:05
him of rape because he had broke it up with
13:07
her, and that's what we had heard. And then the
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next thing we know, his mother had went to the
13:12
church and got all the members on a congregation
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to sign up about what a great boy he
13:16
was, how he would have never done
13:18
anything like this, and that
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was taken to it, and then
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it was no-build by the grand jury, and we thought, well,
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if the grand jury sits here and says it didn't happen,
13:27
and there was no case, then she must have
13:29
made it up.
13:30
Even after hearing that he'd run off to Vegas
13:33
and committed armed robbery, it was hard
13:35
to believe he was a cold, hard criminal.
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And putting it together with
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everything else I knew from high school and everything with
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him, and as nice a guy as he supposedly
13:44
was in school, we
13:47
thought this was just beyond him, that was just a liquor.
13:50
For all his talk about inner monsters
13:52
and demons, at this point, as
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far as anyone else in town was concerned,
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Scott Hatley had nothing left to answer
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for. Around
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this point in his autobiography, Hadley
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pauses to try and explain himself. He
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insists that the crimes he committed, the
14:09
women he hurt, the woman he killed, none
14:11
of it was voluntary. He says,
14:14
quote, fire is seductive. It
14:16
draws you in and puts you in a trance.
14:19
You are burned before you even notice
14:21
it. In other words, evil,
14:24
maybe unleashed in his session of satanic
14:26
worship, had somehow seduced
14:28
him. Now he saw he'd
14:30
been given a chance to start over. So
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Scott went back to working for his dad and
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even did some volunteering. He led a
14:37
troop of Cub Scouts, but he soon
14:40
realized he couldn't stay in Stephenville. He
14:42
was just too much. He saw police
14:44
everywhere he went. He sensed it was
14:46
only a matter of time before they realized
14:49
what he'd done.
14:51
This time he went east to
14:53
Nashville. His brother had become
14:55
a long distance truck driver and
14:57
Scott thought he'd try it too. The
14:59
way he tells it, he was good at it. He
15:01
says he worked so hard his dispatcher once
15:04
asked him what he was running from. He
15:06
says he answered,
15:07
myself. Alone
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out on the road, Hadley says, he also,
15:12
quote, honed his skill at picking
15:15
up broken women, mostly in roadside
15:17
bars. He said his goal was
15:19
to pick up one woman in every state.
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He even told his sister about it.
15:24
She said that was horrible. Did
15:26
Hadley commit more crimes out on the
15:28
road? He doesn't write about
15:30
it if he did, and he was never accused
15:33
of anything we know of.
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But when I spoke with Don Miller in the park
15:37
outside Stephenville, he told
15:39
me he remains convinced there's more.
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I know for a fact that
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the victims I know about are a smidgen
15:48
of what he did. You think? Not
15:50
proven. I can't prove it. I've tried.
15:53
I can't. But he's
15:55
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15:59
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a new life in Nashville. He married.
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out on the road, he took pills to stay awake.
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20:59
another truck. He ended up getting fired.
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He got another job in Nashville at
21:04
a grocery warehouse. And the years
21:07
slowly passed. Five, then
21:09
ten. Then in the late 90s,
21:12
Hatley's company offered him a promotion and
21:14
a transfer back to Texas to
21:17
help run a warehouse in Round Rock. It
21:19
felt like a serious risk going
21:22
back to Texas, but he couldn't pass up
21:24
the money. He and his family found
21:26
a nice apartment right next to a swimming
21:28
pool. But Hatley's drinking had slowly
21:31
gotten out of control.
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It was destroying the marriage. He
21:34
and his wife fought, sometimes violently.
21:37
He worked nights and slept most days.
21:40
And that's where he was, sleeping, on
21:43
the morning in June 2006, when
21:45
they finally came for him.
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The way Hatley tells it, a pair of
21:50
Round Rock officers showed up at his door
21:52
spinning a tale about a co-worker of his
21:55
stealing from the warehouse. They said
21:57
they needed him to come to the station and give
21:59
a statement.
22:00
Hatley claims he knew it was a lie,
22:03
but he went anyway.
22:05
The man who appeared before Don Miller
22:07
in June 2006, a
22:09
monster and a devil by Don's
22:12
estimation and by his own admission, was
22:15
now a 40-year-old warehouse supervisor,
22:18
nearly 300 pounds, with close-cropped
22:20
dark hair and a matching mustache.
22:24
Don wasted little time getting to the
22:26
real reason he was there. The
22:28
first time I talked to Hatley, you
22:30
have to understand, I already know what
22:33
he is. I already know what he did. But
22:36
he comes in and he acts, tries to act
22:39
calm, cool, collective,
22:43
nonchalant, which to
22:45
me is a big red flag anyway.
22:48
If I were to call you into my
22:50
office and say, I think you killed somebody,
22:53
you would immediately, immediately
22:56
start denying it and hard denying
22:58
it. That's not what he did.
23:00
Don says Hatley played it like his
23:02
memory was fuzzy. Maybe he'd
23:05
had sex with Susan, maybe not. Such
23:07
a long time ago, it was hard to remember.
23:10
Well, all those are the wrong things to tell me,
23:13
but I wouldn't have cared what he said. I
23:15
already knew he did it. I already knew it. You
23:18
know, I'm just going through the motions
23:20
because I've got some... I
23:23
know eventually, unless he lawyers
23:25
up, he's going to lay his story down. And
23:28
so, like I said,
23:30
I hit him with the question, is
23:33
there any reason why your DNA would be anywhere
23:35
in or around Susan
23:37
Woods? And he said
23:40
no. Don didn't need a confession. The
23:43
physical evidence alone was enough for
23:45
an arrest, so he didn't push. And
23:48
it's okay. Thank you very much.
23:51
I get ready to release him, but then Round Rock
23:53
says you got to hold him. I said why?
23:55
And he said because we're talking to his wife,
23:58
to Hatley's current wife.
25:59
Don prepared a murder warrant.
26:03
That's when they brought Scott Hadley back to Stephenville.
26:06
And that's when people in Stephenville came
26:09
face to face with the difficult truth.
26:11
For going on 20 years, they'd
26:13
been blaming the wrong man for murder.
26:19
Every writer has his reasons for the stories
26:21
he decides to tell. I realized
26:23
early on that this one drew me in because
26:25
I've encountered a version of it before in
26:28
my own hometown of Temple. I'm
26:31
not the kind of writer who's usually driven
26:33
by moral outrage, but I confess
26:35
that what happened in Temple, much like
26:37
what happened in Stephenville, did leave me angry.
26:41
The Temple story centers on a kid named
26:43
Danny Corwin. In the late 70s,
26:46
he was two years ahead of me at Temple High. I
26:49
didn't know Danny, but I knew both the girls
26:51
he raped, one of whom he nearly killed,
26:53
as a teenager. He kidnapped
26:55
her from the high school parking lot,
26:57
took her to a quarry, and drove a
26:59
knife into her chest. Somehow
27:01
she survived and identified
27:03
him. He faced a life
27:06
sentence, but the Corwins were active
27:08
at First Presbyterian Church, and
27:10
the family and church leaders pressed the
27:12
district attorney for a much lighter sentence,
27:15
and they succeeded.
27:17
Danny was a good kid, everyone said. Some
27:19
folks around town whispered that the girls must
27:21
have lured him on.
27:23
He ended up serving nearly ten
27:25
years at the state prison in Huntsville.
27:28
Afterward, in the mid 80s, he enrolled
27:30
at Texas A&M.
27:32
While he was there, he raped and murdered
27:34
three women. They executed
27:37
Danny Corwin in 1998. I've
27:40
always felt like someone in Temple should have
27:42
apologized to the families of those women
27:44
he killed. I'm not sure that ever
27:46
happened.
27:49
Have you been by the jail? You're
27:52
at the county jail? Wait, there's a... On
27:55
our drive around Stephenville, I
27:57
talk with Sarah Vandenberg, the
27:59
local...
27:59
reporter we first met in episode one,
28:02
but what it was like here when Hatley was arrested.
28:05
Um, and I interviewed him here in this jail as
28:07
well. The old part. Do
28:09
you just want to stop in the jail parking lot? Is that okay? Yeah,
28:12
sure. Do you remember when you first heard
28:14
about the case?
28:14
Yeah, I got a call from my editor
28:17
at the time and he called me into his office and said hey they just
28:19
broke a cold case and they want a reporter
28:21
down here and they sent me down.
28:22
So you had lived here for 15 years
28:27
and had never heard of it? Never heard of it. But
28:30
when it did break and all of
28:32
the rest ensued, it became really
28:35
important. And it always was,
28:37
I'm sure. Well for
28:40
people who didn't know about it, like me, it was fascinating.
28:42
I mean, oh my god, people always said there's a 20 year
28:45
old cold case, nobody knew, you know? And
28:47
who was this woman? They wanted to know all about
28:49
it.
28:49
Walk me through what happened. What I
28:51
remember is that he was really anxious to talk to me. And
28:54
he, you know, I don't know. They
28:56
brought him in and they put him in jail
28:58
and I sent an open records request and asked if I could get
29:01
a jailhouse interview and immediately he agreed
29:03
to it. Didn't ask his attorney. I mean, this guy was up
29:05
for murder and he wanted to get his story
29:07
out there. And I think what that tells me is he thought
29:10
if he could get somebody on his side and get it out in the media,
29:13
he could convince everybody that he was innocent. He had been doing
29:15
it for so long that I think he
29:17
thought why not stop, why stop now?
29:19
At this point, Hantley wasn't as forthcoming
29:21
as he was later in his writings. He
29:24
denied murdering Susan Woods. He
29:26
didn't talk at all about Shannon Myers.
29:29
Denying a murder, but, you know, very soft
29:31
spoken, kind
29:34
of articulate, you know, he could be.
29:36
And he, but the one thing he kept trying
29:39
to tell me is when the real story comes out,
29:42
you'll see that this wasn't just me killing
29:44
a girl. He gave me the impression that
29:46
it was going to be more of a, she
29:49
died in a rough sex sort of thing.
29:51
And he was going with that from the very beginning. And I think
29:53
he thought he was smarter than everybody. And
29:55
wait, you said you thought he thought he
29:57
was smarter than everybody. I think so. I've
29:59
talked to people who knew. as a teenager who say that. Oh,
30:02
yeah. But he got he'd gotten away with it for so long.
30:05
And just like Temple after the news about
30:08
Danny Corwin, Stephenville also
30:10
had a hard time coming to grips with news that
30:13
one of its good boys had been charged with murder. He was
30:16
a conversation Don found himself having
30:18
regularly. Many people just didn't
30:20
want to believe it, starting with
30:22
Susan Woods's father, Joe Atkins.
30:25
He's at the golf course. And I get Mr. Atkins,
30:28
I said, Mr. Atkins, come
30:30
out here to the car. I need to talk
30:32
to you. So I get him in the car. I
30:35
said, look, Joe,
30:37
I've got the arrest warrant
30:39
for, I mean, I know who killed your daughter. And
30:42
he said, yeah, Michael Woods, you're going to put him
30:44
in jail. I said, no, sir.
30:47
It wasn't Michael. It's Joseph Scott Hadley.
30:51
And he looked at me and he said, what'd
30:53
you say your name was? And I said, my name's Lieutenant
30:55
Miller. He said,
30:59
no, no, you're wrong. You're wrong. It's
31:02
Michael Woods. It's not Joseph
31:04
Scott Hadley. I said, no, I'm
31:06
telling you, it is. And
31:09
I said, I know I can prove it to you.
31:13
And I called Roy Hayes.
31:15
I don't know him. I said, hey, Roy, it's Lieutenant
31:17
Miller, Stephenville police. I need
31:19
to talk to you. And he said, what about? And I
31:21
said, I need to talk to you about
31:24
Susan Woods. And Roy
31:26
said, do I have to? He said, I really want to talk
31:28
to you. I said, well, no, you don't have
31:30
to. But I think you want to
31:32
hear what I've got to say.
31:34
Remember, Roy Hayes had been through that long
31:37
polygraph test and he still felt
31:39
the sting of having been suspected. And
31:42
I'm sitting there thinking, oh my
31:44
God, we're going through this again. They're going
31:46
to wrongly charge someone else, just
31:48
like they did me with
31:51
this crime. You hear the name, Scott
31:53
Hadley is about to be arrested. Was there
31:56
anything that went off? It was just totally
31:58
out of the blue. Yeah.
31:59
Anything that you thought, well, maybe
32:02
that time you said... I could
32:04
have been hit by lightning. It was that random.
32:08
On a clear day with no clouds, it's
32:10
just that big a deal for me.
32:13
Like I said, I
32:16
never known Scott to ever lift a finger towards anybody
32:18
in violence. And I'd played
32:20
games with him, I'd played football with him, I'd
32:23
went to school with him. I was
32:25
in the backyard football where, you
32:27
know, pretty much turns into a wrestling
32:30
match because who scored
32:32
what? I
32:35
would have never thought it. But you know, once that happened
32:38
and he told us, me and Cindy instantly
32:40
got on the phone and we called the Atkins.
32:43
Because I knew the perception on this. And we
32:45
told Miss Atkins and we told Joe,
32:48
we are on Susan's side. We don't care
32:50
if this is Cindy's cousin or not. Right's
32:53
right. If this wrongs wrong, we are here to support
32:56
your family and we will do whatever it
32:58
takes to clear this.
33:00
But that support for Susan's family felt
33:02
like a betrayal to some members of Cindy's
33:04
family, who after all were Scott's
33:07
family too.
33:08
It tore our family completely up. Yeah,
33:10
it tore our family. Like I was saying, she is the matriarch.
33:13
His mother was furious at
33:15
us for working with the cops and supporting
33:18
the Atkins family because she told us point
33:20
in blank, we need to circle
33:22
the wagons. It is our family
33:24
against the cops. It's
33:26
the cops against Scott and y'all two need
33:28
to stay out of it. Y'all need to let the cops do
33:31
their job. And we were pretty much
33:33
told towards the end that,
33:36
you know, we need to make our own
33:38
family traditions up and we need to go our
33:40
own way because we
33:42
just really weren't wanted anymore.
33:46
For Hatley's victims though, the
33:48
one still alive, the news was
33:50
not simply long overdue. He
33:53
was cathartic. Around that time,
33:55
Michael Woods had gone back to school.
34:00
and I always kept my phone on because
34:02
I needed to be available
34:05
and I got a call and he says Michael
34:08
we've we've arrested him and
34:13
I took a break from class
34:16
went outside hadn't had a cigarette
34:18
in a year went outside and
34:20
my professor who came out with me gave
34:23
me a cigarette I
34:25
needed a cigarette I had
34:27
a cigarette kind of cried a
34:29
little bit
34:29
and it
34:33
was just it
34:35
was surreal did you ever
34:38
had you given up on that
34:40
I mean did you I mean it's easy to say I always
34:42
knew they'd get him but 20 years is a fucking
34:44
long time I
34:46
was beginning to
34:48
think maybe they would never find him yeah
34:53
but there was one person above all whose
34:55
life was going to change with this news
34:57
Shannon
34:59
it was own Father's Day weekend is
35:02
when he called me and he goes
35:04
hey we arrested Scott and
35:06
it was just like
35:08
I just I you know rejoiced
35:11
and and I was like yes I can
35:13
probably live and I called
35:15
you know my kids of course you know they
35:19
were still you know teenagers
35:21
and my son was 10 at
35:24
the time and my daughter was 13 and
35:27
I just I held on to them and I was like we
35:30
we could you know we're gonna be
35:32
okay and they're like okay
35:34
mom you know you're getting weird and
35:37
it was
35:38
I could I could live again you know
35:42
but it wasn't simply relief that Shannon
35:44
felt at that point not after Don
35:46
asked to come interviewer well
35:48
he should have just talked to me over
35:50
the phone because I could talk to my
35:52
room phone now he's willing to come down I the
35:55
happiness turned
35:58
to anger because I was
35:59
like, oh, so now you're wanting to listen
36:02
to me. Now you want me to talk
36:04
about this story? How dare you?
36:08
Eventually though, she did agree to meet. And
36:11
as they spoke, Shannon realized that
36:13
Don did believe her. She remembers
36:15
he said it repeatedly, and she realized
36:18
that's what she really needed to hear.
36:20
For the first time, she felt
36:22
something like validation.
36:26
Today, Shannon goes by Shannon
36:28
Meyers-Barrientos. She works
36:30
for a school district in the Houston area.
36:32
She's been back to Stephenville a time or two,
36:34
but she mostly stays away.
36:37
There are some memories from her teenage years
36:39
that Shannon says are just gone, and
36:41
she'd like to keep it that way,
36:43
like the first time Scott assaulted her in
36:45
his apartment. There are moments she
36:47
says she's just blocked out.
36:51
But the second one, I always
36:53
held onto it. Now, you know, through the years,
36:55
I often wondered why.
36:58
Why am I holding onto this? Why can't I
37:00
let it go like the other abuse?
37:03
And when Miller called me and told me that
37:05
he needed to talk to me
37:07
about Susan Woods, I
37:11
sighed to myself, and I'm like, this
37:13
is why, Shannon. This is why.
37:17
In the end, there was no showy
37:19
trial, no dramatic perp walk,
37:22
no teary confessions. When he was
37:24
confronted by the physical evidence, Hatley
37:27
quietly cut a deal to serve 30 years. As
37:29
part of the deal, he agreed to give prosecutors
37:32
information about one of his cell mates
37:34
in the Stephenville jail.
37:36
It wasn't what some had hoped, but
37:38
Susan's parents wanted to avoid the tension
37:41
that a trial would bring.
37:43
They sent him to Huntsville, where in time
37:45
he claimed to have rediscovered the Lord. He
37:47
wrote his manifesto, and then
37:49
in 2017, he was diagnosed
37:52
with bladder cancer.
37:53
The cancer went into remission, and
37:56
Hatley was released the following year,
37:58
having served just over 10 years.
37:59
years.
38:01
He entered a halfway house in Midland,
38:03
Texas. He found a job there
38:05
repairing oil field trucks. But
38:07
at the start of the pandemic, he was laid off.
38:10
He moved into an RV park outside Abilene
38:13
to be near his daughter, Amanda. He
38:15
was sober and things went well for a time.
38:18
It didn't last.
38:19
I spoke to Amanda, who told me
38:22
she didn't know for sure, but she thinks
38:24
her father probably started drinking again.
38:27
For months, she wouldn't see him. Then
38:29
he'd reappear at her doorstep. She
38:31
said they fell into having stupid arguments.
38:34
On Halloween, 2021, Hatley
38:37
told her his cancer had returned and
38:39
spread to his spine. Six
38:41
weeks later, his landlord found him dead
38:44
on the floor of his trailer. He was 56.
38:48
Near the end of my conversation with Sarah,
38:51
we talked about what this story says about
38:53
Stephenville.
38:55
You know, I think Hatley was, he
38:58
fooled a lot of people for a long time. But
39:00
I think when I look back on it, what really bothers
39:02
me, and it goes back to what you talked about earlier about the grand
39:04
jury no-billing him for his assault
39:06
on Shannon, she told them,
39:09
he told me that he killed somebody. He told me
39:11
that he killed somebody. And she told that to the
39:13
police, and nothing
39:15
was ever done.
39:18
In hindsight, Don told
39:20
me his department should have pinpointed Hatley
39:23
early on. After all, he'd been
39:25
at a party with Susan Woods just a week
39:27
before she died. But he says nobody
39:29
they interviewed ever mentioned Hatley either. The
39:32
only thing he can see that would have made a difference
39:35
is if the sheriff's department had seriously
39:37
looked at Shannon's statement that Hatley
39:40
said he'd killed before and shared
39:42
it with the police department.
39:44
But even if the police had seen it, it's
39:46
not at all clear they would have taken it seriously.
39:49
On the other hand, you and
39:51
I have both been around enough of these
39:53
that you can imagine some
39:56
deputy or sheriff or investigator saying,
39:58
sure, sure, sure.
39:59
It was just big talk. Yeah, I think that's right. And
40:02
I think that she was, I think she was obviously
40:04
up against that. But gosh, you know, if they had just
40:06
listened to her, how different
40:08
things
40:08
would have been.
40:13
There are probably people listening to this right
40:15
now who think the worst of Stephenville, its
40:18
police department, and maybe its people. But
40:21
the fact is, this could have happened anywhere.
40:24
People make mistakes. And so do overworked
40:26
police and sheriff's departments.
40:28
It happens. For
40:31
me, what's more difficult to forgive
40:33
is the way much of Stephenville scapegoated
40:35
Michael Woods and pretty much ignored
40:38
Shannon Myers.
40:39
They were both outsiders, people
40:41
who came from far away. You
40:44
can't really blame the town today. The
40:47
town that sheltered Scott Hatley blamed
40:49
Michael Woods and turned up its
40:52
nose at Shannon Myers is long
40:54
gone.
40:56
Would something like this happen in today's Stephenville?
41:00
Me,
41:01
I'd like to believe it couldn't.
41:07
Early
41:11
in the summer, in June, before the worst
41:14
of the summer heat settles in, folks
41:16
in Stephenville come out to the city park for the annual
41:18
Moolah Fest.
41:21
There's music and dancing, a
41:23
mechanical bull and carnival games. You
41:28
can watch videos about the local dairy
41:31
industry, if you like, and
41:33
sample the official milk of
41:35
the Dallas Cowboys.
41:40
The biggest crowds come from the mutton busting
41:43
to watch little cowboys and cowgirls
41:45
cling to the back of running sheep.
41:48
Hey, it's way down there. There you
41:50
go. There you go. Hang on.
41:53
Hang on.
41:59
But how
42:02
do you find some more to take
42:04
you to, okay? You
42:07
liked it? And
42:11
then, right around sunset weather
42:14
permitting, comes the main event.
42:18
In
42:24
a clearing away from the popcorn stands
42:27
and the cornhole games, pilots
42:29
climb into the baskets of hot air balloons
42:31
and fire up the burners. The
42:34
balloons rise slowly, and
42:36
the evening sky is filled with the glow of their colors.
42:43
Above the tree line, they cruise
42:45
along quietly. From
42:48
way up there, you can see how the town
42:50
has grown. It's not the
42:52
same place that Susan Woods knew, but
42:55
you can still see signs of the town that
42:57
kept calling her back home. The
43:01
old courthouse and Jake and Dorothy's
43:03
cafe. The sandpaper
43:06
factory where Susan worked, it's
43:08
still there. The house where
43:10
Susan lived and where she died.
43:13
The house where Hatley
43:15
grew up. The hospital
43:18
where Shannon was treated. And
43:20
out beyond the edge of town, of course, the
43:23
little roadside park.
43:27
And then, further out, running
43:29
through the trees and fields. In
43:32
nearly every direction are
43:35
the same old roads that lead
43:37
you out of town.
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