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1:48

From Carolla One Studios in Glendale,

1:51

California, this is the AM

1:53

Corolla Show. Today,

1:55

Adam sits down one on one on one

1:57

with Dana Gould and Sid

1:59

Croft.

1:59

And now, a

2:02

man who's done plenty of gaslighting,

2:05

if you mean trying to ignite his farts.

2:10

Adam Corolla. Yeah.

2:12

Get it on. Got to get it on. No choice.

2:14

We've got a mandate. You get it on. Thanks for

2:16

tuning in. Thanks for telling a friend. We appreciate

2:18

that about you. We have a special

2:21

offering today. The great Dana

2:23

Gould in Studio, who's

2:26

my age, almost exactly

2:28

and And if you're my age

2:30

and you're especially a male and you

2:32

grew up in the United States, then you're

2:34

all about Sid and Marty Croft and

2:36

everything they've done. Dana

2:38

has a special connection. We

2:40

will talk about that. It'll come in,

2:43

fresh off my four hour

2:45

lunch. with Sid on

2:47

Saturday over the weekend. Crazy

2:50

stories, crazy life. you

2:54

know, just to set the table for

2:56

Dana Sid,

2:59

and

2:59

I think your your your head

3:01

phone volume is on your left side.

3:03

So it says so it says There you

3:05

go. Thank you so much. So,

3:08

you know, famously, I made fun of

3:10

of the hack that were

3:12

Sid and Marty Croft and all the junk that

3:14

they put into the universe and how they destroyed

3:16

my childhood. And I I it

3:18

was chronicled in books in podcast

3:20

-- Sure. -- public speaking, it

3:22

was it was well recorded. Well

3:24

reported. He was well aware of

3:26

it, and he said, I like at

3:28

them. I wanna come in here and I

3:30

want to, you know, get the

3:32

record straight, break some bread, settle

3:35

some hash, Yes. I want breakfast.

3:37

I know. Bring

3:39

home some bacon. You

3:41

gotta break a few eggs in order to

3:44

Alright. And so he did and he was

3:46

a delight. Yep. And Better

3:48

better for that conversation, better

3:50

said than Marty. that's what

3:53

I gathered from Sith.

3:55

Now I You know what I understand, Adam

3:57

Sith, is gonna sit down and

4:00

he's gonna tell you how he feels. Well,

4:02

Marty is not going to care so

4:04

much. Marty is a little Bernie Sanders.

4:06

Well, I don't really care. Well, you I'm

4:08

asking you one more time. Well,

4:11

I think Sid, at least

4:13

Endo Hot Mike, is a pretty

4:15

magnanimous or semi semi

4:17

magnanimous about his brother,

4:20

but the the story goes

4:22

and I I won't try not to tell too many

4:24

tales at a school. Sid's

4:26

the puppeteer. So Sid's the

4:28

creative. Sid struck out on

4:30

his own at a very young age.

4:32

And for the lights of Broadway,

4:35

and his puppeteering took

4:37

him to all the biggest

4:39

venues in the world. Right. And

4:41

also with some of the biggest

4:43

celebrities in the world. Mhmm. Judy

4:45

Garland and people -- Yeah. -- like that. That is In

4:48

the in the in the era of

4:51

separate clubs, Yes. Yeah.

4:53

And he played big theaters as well. I

4:55

mean, I was in his bathroom

4:57

seventy two hours ago looking at a

4:59

framed picture of the

5:02

ticket. I think Chris, we might

5:04

have some of these pictures somewhere. Of

5:06

the ticket of, you know,

5:08

him and Judy Garlic, you know,

5:10

playing the whatever Beacon Theatre in

5:12

nineteen thirty nine. Yeah. So,

5:15

surprised to

5:18

hear that a guy who put

5:20

out about as much product

5:22

is Aaron's spellings, is

5:25

not set for life in

5:27

in amazingly wealthy, but

5:29

evidently not Well,

5:31

Saturday morning pays a lot less than

5:33

prime time, but let's

5:35

not forget Pink Lady and Jeff,

5:37

one of the greatest variety shows of all

5:39

time. Okay. Yeah. How can I know?

5:41

Let's not forget Sunny and Sherr.

5:43

Let's not Sherr. I didn't know they did Sunny

5:45

and Sherritt. Sunny and Sherr. They did Odds

5:48

and Brothers. I don't think they did the Hudson

5:50

Brothers, but we can look into that.

5:52

Something something power hour.

5:57

snaring that down

5:59

is like narrowing it was to

6:02

use car lot that used to phrase

6:04

dealing days. Yeah. It's like it's like giving you

6:06

find them. So giving directions in Tampa

6:08

based on the strip joint. Four. Four

6:10

strip joints or any kickbox

6:12

or named Brad who went by the handle,

6:15

Bad Brad. hand to me. And I was like, oh,

6:17

narrow it down. We

6:19

got dealing days and we got bad

6:21

brad. It's gonna take more than

6:23

once the Sid and Marty Croft power hour. I could

6:25

be mistaken. Yeah. Now

6:27

the Hudson Brothers were this

6:29

crazy musical group who

6:31

also did a Saturday morning

6:33

show. And one of them fathered Kate

6:35

Hudson with the of the Hudson?

6:38

right. Of the Hudson Brothers. So that's where

6:40

that story goes. But Marty,

6:43

the other brother -- Right. -- I believe

6:45

nine years younger -- Mhmm.

6:47

-- was asked to come along

6:49

after Sid found great success

6:53

with his stage

6:55

show -- Right. -- and folded him

6:57

into the business, and then he

6:59

took over the kind of business nuts

7:01

and bolts and Sid did the creative

7:03

and you know how that works financially. Yeah.

7:05

It really is Marty's spock

7:07

and Sid's Kirk. Once once

7:10

one's left, one's right brain.

7:12

And you, at

7:14

a certain time, when we spoke several years

7:16

ago, you were getting to work on

7:19

Sigman and the Sea Monsters. Yeah.

7:21

When they were doing the film

7:24

landed lost with Will Farrell --

7:26

Mhmm. -- then they were gonna make movies

7:28

of all or were they gonna maximize

7:30

the potential -- Right. -- create the Sid Meiercraft

7:32

universe, and I was thanks

7:35

to your friend in mind, Jimmy Miller, who

7:37

was producing. I

7:39

got the the gig to write the Segment and

7:42

the Sea Monster movie. And

7:44

I got to work with with

7:46

Sid and Marty for quite

7:48

a bit of time, and it was great. I

7:52

I really I

7:54

I related to I related to both

7:56

of them in different ways -- Mhmm. -- and

7:59

really enjoy I don't even know if it's

8:01

gonna remember. remember me,

8:03

but it was it was

8:05

really great fun. It was really

8:07

great fun. And and unfortunately, Lena

8:09

The Lost wasn't the hit that they had hoped it would

8:11

have been because I thought the I

8:14

really liked here's

8:16

a sentence. Quote me on this.

8:18

I really liked what I did with it.

8:20

Yeah. Did you have any

8:22

part of land of the lost? No. I did

8:24

not. Oh, just so they were

8:26

gonna do land of the lost, and

8:28

then they're gonna ride that momentum in

8:30

to the rest of their catalog. Right. Of

8:33

course, the way Hollywood works is

8:35

if if the first if

8:37

the first mission the

8:39

rocket blows up on the pad. They'll

8:42

scrap the whole rest of the Apollo

8:44

mission. Right. Alright.

8:46

So Did you hang that pic you showed me a

8:48

picture, Chris. It was kind of interesting.

8:50

So in in his bathroom,

8:52

by the way, everything everything

8:56

mosaic and we can probably blow

8:58

that up a little. I think it

8:59

was Now

9:01

I don't also believe And

9:03

I could be Judy Garland.

9:05

Oh, and Frank Frank Sonatra. Wow.

9:08

And Donald,

9:09

god. Oh,

9:10

Connor. Donald Donald

9:13

O'Connor. Another big star of the time.

9:15

Yeah. I could be wrong here,

9:17

but I have there's a rumor that

9:19

Sid is one of the Original

9:22

Investors and Air Juan. Whole

9:25

Food, Really? Yes. Well,

9:27

he he might make me a liar.

9:29

Well, this It does stand a

9:31

reason because when I was enjoying

9:33

lunch at his home seventy

9:36

something hours ago, The

9:38

really clock It was a it was

9:41

a whole food,

9:43

uncooked, you know, all natural,

9:45

whatever. We is he is still alive.

9:47

On the other hand, my dad, ninety

9:49

one, basically, steak and

9:51

vodka. Right. It's all he ate. I'm

9:54

not lying to you, Robbie, and well, I mean, this

9:56

is please, everyone.

9:58

I we become sort of superstitious

10:01

gypsies when it comes to this shit.

10:03

That's some that's they're showing what you had

10:05

and it is a I can tell you it is a meal

10:07

fit for a squirrel. He

10:09

made his own hummus. I

10:11

leave it to the professionals. That's not what I

10:13

call it. I call it

10:15

shooting buddy at the room. I say it'll be

10:17

doing in the bathroom. You may get

10:20

caught miss. He's thirteen. He's making

10:22

hummus. Fresh

10:26

pressed apple juice. with

10:28

ginger, of course, and

10:30

then Alaska

10:32

flown in. Sorry, I should

10:34

say salmon flown in from Alaska.

10:36

And Mel Mel Brooks is also in his nineties

10:39

and he seems to eat

10:41

I've also had the very very But I've

10:43

been very lucky to work with a lot of people.

10:47

I don't take it for granted, and I'll drop

10:49

the names brazenly. He

10:53

doesn't seem to he's pretty much what he wants.

10:55

He drinks a lot of water. What

10:57

he wrote is is

11:00

exactly I will say this

11:02

about Sid Croft, Marty Croft, and Melbrooks.

11:04

having worked with all of them. They

11:06

are all exactly who

11:08

you want them to be. Right.

11:11

They're for good or for

11:13

bad. Yep. They're great. No. They're they're

11:15

great. Like, none of them need to

11:17

suffer fools. Right.

11:19

They're they're great. they're solicitist,

11:21

they're funny, they're pleasant, they're

11:23

never they're not divas. They're

11:25

it's not like you meet somebody that you

11:27

like and you're like, oh, Jesus. Right.

11:29

You know, they're they're, like, Bruce Campbell's

11:31

like that too. He's, like, oh, you're really you're just

11:34

Bruce Campbell from the -- evil

11:36

dev. -- devil dev series. Like, you're exactly

11:38

who I or the best

11:40

example and you confirm this, Adam

11:42

West is the best example of that. The

11:44

Adam West was one hundred percent

11:46

Adam West. Yeah. Shandner's

11:48

kinda one hundred percent Shandner.

11:50

Mhmm. But but but to the

11:52

downside of that, it's a Hasselhoff's one

11:54

hundred percent Has hospice. So there's some dark

11:56

side to this. Dude, I was in Berlin earlier

11:58

this week. Uh-oh. Here comes the Hassel

12:00

hospice. He's everywhere

12:02

over there. He there

12:04

there I was I just got married and

12:06

we went on our honeymoon to Berlin

12:08

because, like, all newlyweds, we wanted to see

12:10

Hitler's bunker. Sure. At the wall. in.

12:13

But there are these posters all over

12:15

Berlin of it's like Superman

12:18

flying -- Mhmm. -- like straight towards you,

12:20

but it's Hassle off speech.

12:23

It's it's gotta be

12:25

a bizarre life

12:27

where you're so worshiped

12:29

somewhere else. So, I mean, I guess, we had this

12:31

with Jerry Lewis and and Frank's.

12:33

Although, I have a theory behind that.

12:36

the France

12:36

worshiping of Jerry Lewis. France,

12:40

it's it's

12:42

a it's a dynamic, but we bailed

12:44

them out of world war Two,

12:47

and anybody who's

12:49

had a near to well brother who you've had

12:51

to help out a few times -- Mhmm.

12:53

-- financially, you'd think

12:55

they would be kindly toward you.

12:57

Yeah. They resent you. And the reason

12:59

they resent you is because of the shame,

13:01

they know that you had

13:03

to And instead of saying,

13:05

you've done so much, you've been so

13:07

generous, the people you bail

13:09

out the most, hate you the most,

13:11

and I think France embraced

13:14

Jerry Lewis, not because they love a

13:16

cherry because they think that that's what they think of

13:18

America. They want to piss us off. I I agree.

13:20

Fuck you. he loved this guy.

13:22

Not only did we bail them out in World War

13:24

two. We I believe it was it was

13:26

patent or the other

13:29

American tanker man. they had to they were

13:31

ready to roll into Paris. Right.

13:33

And they had to stop and wait.

13:36

Right. Like two days, for

13:39

Dagall to show up. So he could do the

13:41

trick. all of that, man. So he

13:43

could do it first. In the meantime,

13:45

the Nazis are like, oh, we can take

13:47

our time. Great. Well, they're

13:49

folding clothes. The call someone

13:51

should have known that you cannot win a

13:53

war with that hat. You

13:55

have to have right hat. The Americans had

13:57

the right hat. The

13:59

Germans had the right hat. Many of the right de

14:01

Gaulle's hat was not gonna

14:03

win in battle. And

14:05

Montgomery, the British commander had the of of of

14:07

the British speech impediment. Oh, yeah. He

14:09

was running the war. And he was dead one

14:11

Montgomery. He had a brave. Not

14:13

a good not a good handle. He was

14:15

he was, like, he this

14:18

is a weird conversation. It is.

14:20

Montgomery was how he would be

14:22

played in a sketch. Mhmm. Yes.

14:25

If if Jim Carey was doing with

14:27

Converse. Alright. Back to our

14:29

dads for a sec. So people Yes. This conversation

14:31

is the leading cause of vaginal dryness.

14:33

You know, we'll work too

14:35

general. And and we'll we'll dry

14:37

it up we'll throw a little more kitty litter down

14:39

there because now we're getting

14:41

into our pops. Yeah. Your dad's

14:43

ninety one. My dad's ninety

14:45

one. Hey. What what what's what what's what's

14:47

the birthday? don't know. Not

14:50

too long ago. Okay. Mine's

14:52

my dad turns ninety two on November

14:55

third So your dad may be

14:57

seven months older than my than my

14:59

dad. I think

15:01

if in fact my dad's a ninety one, It

15:03

could be ninety. I gotta it could be ninety two.

15:05

I gotta I don't sweat the details.

15:07

But at this point, it did solve --

15:09

Exactly. -- the bottom of the ninth. What are you gonna

15:11

do? So My dad's

15:13

ninety one, and he just sorta

15:15

eats whatever. Not badly, just

15:17

sort of small portions and whatever he

15:19

feels like. And he's around

15:21

and Sid Crop, eats

15:23

raw vegan, and he and then your

15:25

dad does the vodka -- Yeah. -- with

15:27

the steaks. And he's

15:30

around. So While it's

15:32

good to look after yourself, genetics,

15:35

genetics, genetics, and people just live

15:37

longer than us. I was a generation and

15:39

a generation and I

15:41

I really do that no smoking

15:43

at a certain point. I think smoking will

15:45

will really Oh, sure. There are there are things

15:47

you can do. Yeah. For sure. But my dad

15:50

does drink vodka

15:52

every day, really. Yeah. Still.

15:54

And and he he drives

15:56

sees, drives himself, drive is

15:59

yeah. He was it well,

16:01

I can tell you a story about

16:04

a place. My dad's

16:06

from as I've said in my

16:08

act, my dad has two basic emotions,

16:10

rage and suppressed rage. I

16:14

just got married in

16:16

August and my dad and

16:18

my sister and two of my

16:20

brothers came out from Massachusetts. for

16:23

the for the ceremony. You know, second

16:25

time around is a smaller affair.

16:27

Sure. But they came

16:29

out. Both of my

16:32

brothers and if you're listening, you know I

16:34

love you. All he's

16:36

been older than I am, all adults, homeowners,

16:40

Pants, they come out

16:42

for the wedding, not

16:44

one of them. Adam, not

16:46

one of them. Add a suit. Pat,

16:49

long pants or

16:53

a dress shirt. I do love

16:55

these people. Because I said

16:57

casual, Mhmm. Which they

16:59

interpreted as -- Mhmm. --

17:01

cargo shorts and a Beatles t shirt.

17:03

Right. Yes. I love these people. I

17:05

give them a kidney III

17:11

was just stunned. And I said,

17:14

okay. Well, you have to go to

17:16

the mall. and we need to get you some

17:18

pants. Some pants. Sure. It's proper

17:20

pants. At which point my dad said,

17:22

well, if I knew I had to buy long pants,

17:24

I wouldn't have come. because

17:29

there's I imagine, like, if I died,

17:31

first, so they just, like, get the black cargo

17:33

shorts. We're going to a funeral. III

17:35

feel that I've I've ranted about this many

17:38

times. I my step

17:40

dad showed up, I believe, to

17:42

my grandmother's funeral.

17:44

somebody shoe in a row wearing a red member's only

17:46

jacket, and I I And

17:50

and but Chris, you can show

17:52

Dana, remember the guy. Now I won a

17:54

Red member's only joke. Remember the guy we're

17:56

talking about two weeks ago who

17:59

physically assaulted the

18:01

stewardess on or flight attendants. Oh, yeah. I saw it

18:03

punch her in the back of the head? Punch her in the back of the

18:05

head, but that's not the story. happens

18:07

all day every day.

18:09

It's the artist sketch

18:11

of him appearing in court.

18:14

and it's the shirt that he's wearing in court

18:16

that I've drilled down on, which

18:19

is I say that

18:21

whether it's a wedding, a funeral, or

18:23

court, somebody need everyone

18:25

-- Yeah. -- maybe we'll do it. Like,

18:27

when you're born, we

18:30

will give you a black v neck

18:32

sweater and a set of black

18:34

doctors. And and and you'll be set for life.

18:36

Like I said, we we should the the

18:38

state should issue it. But

18:40

I love that your debt. Did he actually

18:43

audibly say if he knew he had to buy

18:45

pants? One hundred percent. Why?

18:47

And then And then he said, now by the way, my

18:49

brothers are, you know, these are adults. You

18:51

know, these guys are, oh, my

18:55

My my dad was getting a

18:57

cup of coffee in the morning and my brother saw me

18:59

and he went, hey dad and he scared

19:01

my father and and

19:03

he spilled the coffee on his arm. God

19:06

dammit. What am I doing here? What am I

19:08

doing too?

19:11

But he yeah.

19:14

No. But it was it was quite it

19:17

was it was it was and then and

19:19

it scared when my dad yelled,

19:21

my brother a retired prison

19:25

guard ran out of the room. Wow.

19:28

Wow. Well, Chris will find

19:30

that picture. It's somewhere in

19:32

our archives. I will were

19:34

we gauged our father's health by the physical

19:37

damage he could still inflict. How's dad

19:39

doing? Oh, he could still put us right to the wall.

19:41

Oh, okay. Yeah.

19:43

Now my dad is not

19:45

driving, so he's slower than your

19:47

dad, but he's still he's still around. And

19:49

I I had a sort of

19:51

bizarre talk or realization driving

19:53

home with my dad, which is and

19:56

I don't know. You you can tell me if

19:58

there's some version of this with your

19:59

dad, but because what

20:01

you do is your dad is

20:04

your dad and your brother is your brother

20:06

and everyone's just everyone and you just kind

20:08

of get along. But it's some

20:10

point, you say, man, I have

20:13

children. What if I had

20:15

this relationship with

20:17

my children. Oh, yeah. What if we just flipped the script

20:19

and said, I will yell

20:21

at my son when he's getting married about

20:23

having to buy trousers. You know what I

20:25

mean? Like, yeah. What would that make

20:28

me? And my

20:30

dad, soft spoken, not your

20:32

dad at all, little more

20:34

hands off but just kinda hang

20:36

out, kind of

20:38

a a quiet narcissist. Sure. Okay. Yeah. I

20:40

I pure in our narcissism that

20:42

and I think a lot of people are familiar. People

20:45

go back to narcissism

20:47

and they go, we think of the aforementioned

20:49

David Hasselhoff. This guy's

20:51

got his shirt on button down to

20:53

his navel. He's praining. He's

20:55

walking right. There's a

20:57

deeper form of narcissist, which

20:59

is you people don't exist. I'm

21:01

here for me. Like, it's an it's an

21:03

ultimate narcissism. Right. Because

21:06

the guy who preens and struts

21:08

around is like, I wanna drive a

21:10

cat like, If that's your dad, you do get

21:12

a couple of steak dinners and a

21:14

martini with him. Right. And that

21:16

guy is gauging his behavior

21:18

on the reaction of other people to him, to

21:20

a pure narcissist. The other people

21:22

don't exist. They're not they're not a thing to

21:24

consider. I'll show you plain punch

21:26

guy. Yeah. This was eager to

21:28

see this. showing a very floral

21:30

Hawaii shirt, and he

21:32

whacks the guy in the back of the

21:34

back of the head and then shows up a

21:36

court in the same Hawaiian show.

21:38

I'm probably trying

21:40

to explain. That wasn't me, though. I mean, that

21:42

was maybe he gathered. Maybe he hasn't been

21:45

home. That that could be as well.

21:47

Alright. Now I do like the way he back

21:49

like that didn't happen. Did you

21:52

alright. So here's something III

21:54

wanted to get your head on as

21:56

far as Danske. My my

21:59

dad dad, his identity,

22:03

for the most part, is

22:05

based around him and

22:07

his trumpet.

22:10

was was not expecting

22:12

that. And your dad

22:14

is miles Davis. My

22:17

dad is miles from success.

22:20

Okay. She's

22:23

never earned a penny playing the

22:25

Trump. Yeah. I bet Miles

22:27

Davis when he got home was sort of done

22:29

with his -- Sure. -- because he'd been gigging

22:31

all weekend. And it's the last thing.

22:33

He to in Lamborghini mirror -- Right. -- and talk

22:35

about anything but a trumpet. But my

22:38

dad, his it

22:40

it would be like it

22:42

Here's what'd be the equivalent to. It would be

22:44

the equivalent to So

22:47

Alright. I'll set the table. there

22:49

are of conversations about me buying him a

22:51

trumpet. There's lots of conversations about him

22:53

playing the trumpet. The trumpet is always

22:55

next to him, near him,

22:58

sometimes he's diddling around with the trumpet. It's

23:00

it's it's sixty seven percent

23:03

trumpet talk. Yet,

23:06

that was not his profession. And it's

23:09

not my it's not my profession or my

23:11

life. Rand Randos I don't I don't play,

23:13

but it's essentially, our

23:16

relationship will be distilled down

23:18

to, you know, somewhere between sixty

23:20

three and seventy nine percent

23:22

trumpet talk. Right. And

23:24

I I'm amazed at this.

23:26

It is really equivalent

23:28

to let's just say, I

23:30

have I have a son.

23:32

it would be the equivalent of me

23:36

saying, I played

23:37

a little baseball

23:39

in junior college. I had some

23:42

thoughts about playing semi pro

23:44

baseball, but it never

23:46

happened. And I became a

23:48

substitute school teacher But

23:50

every conversation with my

23:52

kid, I had my mitt out

23:54

in my ball, and we just kept

23:56

talking about the mid and the ball --

23:58

Yeah. -- and baseball and

23:59

berry buns. Like, he and he

24:02

had no interest in baseball. Sure. Sure. Sure.

24:04

That's essentially the trumpet

24:06

version. I have my dad. I have a weird version.

24:08

My dad that but

24:10

it's amazing because it's an artistic

24:13

endeavor. Like, it's a it's a cool

24:15

thing. Yes. It's cool for the

24:17

first twenty six years. Sure.

24:19

But eventually, it grows. It's Oh, yeah.

24:21

Yes. My dad's schtick

24:24

is hunting. my dad lives

24:26

to go hunting. Mhmm. And

24:29

I do the I and I have four

24:31

older brothers and they all hunted. And I

24:33

did not want to go hunting -- Right. --

24:35

which could only mean one thing,

24:37

I was a homosexual. Yeah.

24:39

Yeah. That's true. There was no other

24:41

Shouldn't Well, bye.

24:44

Yeah. Nothing. No. And by the

24:46

way, same exact story

24:48

Bobcat golfing. Really exact thing.

24:50

his dad was a hunter. Yeah. And his

24:53

brothers. And he didn't wanna go hunting. I

24:55

didn't wanna go hunting. And and he

24:57

had it worse because Bob loves musicals.

25:00

Okay. Okay. Yeah. Bottom.

25:02

Yeah. And and,

25:04

you know, and and that was it.

25:07

In our house, my bedroom

25:10

in high school, for whatever reason,

25:12

had the gun cabinet in it.

25:14

And I would wake up

25:16

And the first thing I would see in the morning was

25:19

twelve rifles -- Yeah. --

25:21

just in the room. And, you

25:23

know, I I'd never

25:25

it wasn't unusual to me at all because I'd never

25:27

been in the house without again, Gavin. Right. You

25:29

know? But it was just one of those things I

25:31

No. That's that's their life. That's what they

25:34

wanna do. And you

25:36

have to challenge yourself. And I

25:38

think it's a very generational thing

25:40

where, like, you know, you

25:42

don't you don't inflict

25:44

your you you see your

25:47

children as more individuals, less an

25:49

extension of yourself. a great

25:51

example, as I've said before. The

25:53

name Frank Senatra junior

25:55

is child abuse. Right.

25:57

Yeah. That's a very good point. Yeah.

26:00

Make it harder on him. Yeah.

26:02

You know? Yeah. I'm

26:04

close to that is

26:07

LeBron James' son, Bronnie James.

26:09

Yeah. That that's everyone's just gonna every he

26:11

he won't be able to go into a restaurant

26:13

and put his name down. host

26:15

this without everyone turning around. Right.

26:17

It's just it it's it's like

26:19

having a band named the other Beatles. You're

26:21

just set up to fail. The

26:24

but the thing that's interesting about

26:26

hunting or trumpet playing,

26:28

which is and I I assume Both

26:31

blood sports tried to this yet. I'll get to

26:33

put a blow dart in the Qurayama.

26:36

Boom. My dad and I sit around and

26:38

talk about trumpets. And he

26:40

knows I don't play the trumpet or have

26:42

a particular interest in the trumpet.

26:45

Now it could be a two way

26:47

street because I have

26:49

a great love of

26:51

automobiles and sports cars and and

26:53

racing, but I dare not bring that

26:55

up in front of him because he has

26:57

no interest in it. So

26:59

I'm not gonna sit there

27:01

and talk about stuff

27:03

that I'm passionate about knowing

27:05

that the person but we have

27:07

that that'll that could be with a relationship. You

27:09

could have a wife or girlfriend. She's

27:11

got no idea not interest

27:14

did in you and your cars or you and your Fill

27:16

in the blank. And at some point, you get coached

27:18

up to let's just talk

27:20

whether politics Well,

27:23

talk about something other than like, there are many

27:25

the fridge. There are many guys

27:27

that are fanatical about

27:30

about Fantasy football. Yeah. But they

27:32

would never dream of going out to dinner with

27:34

their wife and talking about who

27:36

they drafted this week because they know

27:38

the wife has zero

27:41

Interest in this. And so the

27:43

question about our dads whether it's hunting

27:45

or trumpet playing, why

27:47

don't they get that that's not what we want.

27:49

Like, when your dad sits down and talks to you

27:51

about his last hunting Oh, yeah. Yeah.

27:54

And and I again, I do I do

27:56

think it was generational because I know with art, my

27:58

dad, if if you weren't into what he

28:00

was into, okay,

28:03

later, Right. Like, he wasn't

28:05

they weren't gonna go and so what

28:07

do you you know, what do you like?

28:10

And I'm

28:12

actually you

28:13

know, I don't know

28:14

about you. My

28:17

parenting style his

28:20

is just aside

28:22

from a a blatant series of empty

28:25

threats. Right. Turn that down around, murder

28:27

your friends. Right. I

28:29

just do the opposite of what would my dad not do

28:31

here? Yes. That's what I'll do. I do that

28:33

with investing. I

28:36

do that with parenting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

28:39

Yeah. I've I've set it into this

28:41

microphone many many times. I

28:43

literally just do the opposite of

28:45

what people want you to do with

28:47

Jesus. I just do the yeah.

28:49

Like, I literally think what would

28:51

my family do in this situation?

28:53

A hundred percent. Literally,

28:55

if I'm driving, if if my dad would

28:57

turn left, I'm gonna turn right.

28:59

That's and and and it's

29:01

pretty successful because the

29:04

template for success is is pretty good,

29:06

but the template for failure is

29:08

pretty bulletproof. Right? Yes. It's just due

29:10

to the opposite. Well, yeah, my kids

29:12

aren't afraid of me. I would wear pants to

29:14

a wedding. See? During

29:17

the ops, thinking outside the box. A stainless

29:20

stand. I should we'd

29:22

be remiss if we didn't do a second a HUEL.

29:24

Chris was explaining to me that

29:26

HUEL hasn't had a music video,

29:29

but I'm gonna show I'm gonna show you a photo of my

29:31

dad at my wedding just so you can appreciate

29:34

the smile.

29:38

By the way, Dana's gonna be in Kansas

29:40

City at the Comedy Club of Kansas City.

29:42

That's November third

29:44

through the fifth and then San Francisco

29:46

punchline. San Francisco, that's

29:48

November ten through the

29:50

twelfth. Go to dana ghoul dot com for

29:52

all the Bro.

29:54

You can post

29:57

for all the for all the live

29:59

dates. It's awesome. Yeah.

30:02

It's so it's Dana and

30:04

his his brothers -- Yes. -- three

30:06

of them. And then there

30:08

is a dad who

30:12

looks somewhere between you

30:15

it's it's a little bit of what are you doing in

30:18

here? It's it's a

30:20

look. Alright. Here's the look your dad

30:22

has possessed. If

30:24

a Jehovah's Witness knocked on

30:26

your door and you were

30:28

watching Monday night football and it was

30:30

the fourth quarter and the game was tied, this

30:33

is the look you would give them to get

30:35

them to turn around and leave without even

30:37

dropping off the watch tower. Right?

30:39

Like, your dad's look. But it's it's

30:41

a very Sunny's pretty -- Yeah. -- turnaround. Yeah. Just

30:43

turn that camera around and start walking. It's a

30:45

very clunky -- Wow. -- east

30:47

wouldian visage. I have

30:50

yeah. I could show you.

30:52

God, is there a picture, Chris, you can

30:54

look for this one. The picture of a

30:56

famous picture of my family where

30:58

everyone is sitting around the

31:00

table outside, and

31:02

I'm craning my head. But much

31:04

can be gleaned. Yeah.

31:06

Much. you you really it's kind

31:08

of all it's all it's kinda all you need.

31:10

It's sort of like a

31:13

strange dog is coming down the

31:15

street. All you need to see is it's posh

31:17

year. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? Is it tail wagging

31:19

-- Yeah. -- or or is it sort of

31:21

crouched down? Is it profing? What what

31:23

is it doing? And then someone

31:26

could go We don't spend twenty four

31:28

hours with that dog. How do you know what that

31:30

dog's like? And you go, I know it

31:32

from twenty five feet away by the

31:34

way the dog is walking. And when

31:36

you see pictures, you get a

31:38

real part in the pun snapshot

31:40

of exactly where everyone is

31:42

at. Mhmm. Like, you can

31:44

you look at you. You can look at the

31:47

brothers. Find this. We'll find that

31:49

that picture. It'll make it'll make Dana

31:51

laugh. Now, The reason it'll make

31:53

Dana laugh is this is

31:55

my grandmother taking a

31:57

picture. It is back in the day when you

31:59

had to say 123

32:02

smile or say, jeez or whatever because she had

32:04

an actual camera. Okay.

32:06

Is that you on the left? Yes.

32:08

My father is staring

32:11

into his mother-in-law's camera lens but refuses

32:13

to move his face. This

32:15

is it. This is grandpa barbecuing.

32:19

So my dad's just staring it

32:21

down. Like, hey, bitch. So that's You want

32:23

that in the black? Yes. You want me to pretend

32:25

like this isn't a loveless relationship.

32:27

I'm not doing it. I'm not going along, up

32:29

just stare. It's it's and

32:31

that's your mama to a house. Now

32:33

my my dad just

32:35

stared at the lens and refused

32:38

to tell his face

32:40

to paint on a smile or any

32:43

form of Well, that's like American Gothic. That's

32:45

a that's a novel. He's just

32:47

staring at the lens going, you want me

32:49

to feel something or

32:51

project something, I will do My

32:53

mom who hates her mom who's taking

32:55

the picture

32:56

cranes her head -- Yeah. -- as if to say

32:59

fuck you. Because my grandmother's standing up

33:01

going one, two, Now if you

33:03

don't believe we know there's a picture being taken, I've

33:05

painted a smile on. Uh-huh. And my

33:07

grandfather's craned his neck around, so

33:10

he's aware that a picture is

33:12

being taken. My mom literally put

33:14

her hand over her mouth and turned

33:16

her head and said, I

33:18

will not play along with this right now.

33:20

But I'm not satisfied with this.

33:22

My dad just stared at

33:24

it. My sister had a

33:26

perfect look for where she was,

33:28

which is I'm confused who these

33:30

people are. I don't know what to

33:32

do. I'm trapped in this family.

33:34

I did what was consistent with

33:36

me, which is I'm gonna try to turn this into

33:39

something. It's not. I'm not gonna smile.

33:41

Is there ten like we have something? Yeah.

33:43

Exactly. What child went

33:45

into showbiz? The

33:47

one performing. That's right.

33:50

And my grandfather has a

33:52

look of Helen,

33:54

I know what you're trying to do here, but these

33:56

people are are not. But I

33:58

don't know. Your grandfather's a very

33:59

he's a cool looking dude. Your

34:02

grandfather, he he

34:03

wrote the mold people, Dana. I did

34:06

not

34:06

know that. I've never told you that. No. I

34:08

knew that resonate with you. I did

34:11

not know He's the writer of the mold

34:13

people. Wow. Not my biological grandfather.

34:16

What's his name?

34:18

Lozlo gourock Gorag.

34:20

Wow. The writer of the multi people. Right. Not

34:22

too many people. I know about it. I know

34:24

the I I did. You did.

34:28

I know. Yeah. So this is AII

34:30

don't wanna be a one upper, but I

34:32

I do have a miserable family that

34:35

I come from. Your No. No. I understand. The

34:37

picture of your dad is. And by the way,

34:40

every photo of my

34:42

father throughout my childhood,

34:44

I could, you know, if this was a TV show,

34:46

I could show. Same look. Nineteen

34:48

sixty nine. Yeah. Yeah.

34:50

Well, it's he's Clint Eastwood.

34:52

That's awesome. Alright. Oh, do we have this? Sorry.

34:54

Do we have the Vid just to

34:56

see if we have that?

34:58

them before we bring

35:00

in the I've heard a weird story that there's some connection between Hugh

35:03

and Bob Crane. Oh, really?

35:05

Yeah. That makes sense in

35:08

Hogan's heroes. So this this video is from two

35:10

thousand ten, Huel went over to the

35:12

Musician's Institute in Hollywood.

35:14

Mhmm. And with the students there,

35:16

they they music of California.

35:19

Here I come. Oh,

35:22

boy.

35:25

Oh, you

35:28

will say

35:30

hang on.

35:34

California

35:34

Nope. Near

35:36

I com. That's why I

35:38

got back where I

35:41

started from wear

35:44

bowers, the flowers, cloom

35:46

in the spring.

35:48

Each morning at the and

35:51

burning saying it everything.

35:52

A sun kissed me,

35:55

said, don't be late. That's

35:58

why I can hardly

36:02

wait.

36:05

golden, yay, hell of

36:08

one. Yeah. You're awesome.

36:10

There's

36:11

no Randy Newman.

36:15

California. Where

36:17

I come right back

36:19

where I started from. wear plowers

36:21

of flowers, women of spring.

36:23

Each morning and dawn and burning

36:25

sing and every

36:28

us on business. We hit it.

36:31

I missed the man.

36:32

He never got to do. Did you

36:35

even me. Write me

36:38

again. I'm not the

36:41

only one. I'm

36:44

but only one. I think he could do hell is for

36:46

children like Pat Vanadkar.

36:49

I think he could do only

36:52

women bleed by Alice Cooper.

36:54

I can see I can see

36:56

Paradise by the dashboard

36:58

light. He should've dropped it now. blindfolded.

37:02

The great hules shall be messed

37:04

up. We have to find the Bob

37:06

Crane. Something tells

37:08

me it it leans more towards the auto

37:10

focus era of Bob's life than the

37:12

Hogan's heroes era of Bob's life? Yeah. I mean, people

37:14

understand I

37:18

mean, people a lot of people saw auto

37:20

focus, and they should. It's a good a good

37:22

movie. But Bob Crane was

37:24

kind of

37:26

America's dad. He was super dad.

37:28

He was super dad. The Disney movies

37:30

he was doing and I was imagining

37:32

your And he was doing what your

37:35

dad really wanted to do.

37:37

Right. He was collecting a

37:40

pornography and banging everybody and

37:42

setting up video cameras before there were video cameras --

37:44

Yeah. -- a human Elvis and Richard

37:46

Nixon and only people that had

37:48

access to that stuff

37:50

back then. And Disney, I was in this horrible

37:52

place because we're like,

37:54

you're super dad, you're America's dad, but we're

37:56

starting to hear rumblings

37:58

of, like, this other

37:59

life that you're having, this is

38:02

all pre me

38:04

too or pre Or early seventies

38:06

or early seventies, mid seventies. Yeah.

38:08

Yeah. And they're like, how do we keep hiring this guy when we're

38:11

hearing all these stories. People love him. People

38:13

love him. People love him.

38:16

And he's he's yeah.

38:18

He's just a walking. They

38:21

sat back just the they

38:24

they found and

38:26

then was killed in the hotel room and nobody really

38:29

figured out forty nine years

38:31

of age. Young man, and

38:33

then they fight his I

38:36

with Orgy Wingman.

38:38

Right. Orgy Wingman, but

38:40

hang on a note, call

38:44

my Orgy Okay. Orgy Wingman

38:46

allegedly, but the guy walked free

38:48

for, like, twenty years and

38:50

then a Ventually, they

38:52

got some DNA, whatever,

38:54

and I didn't know they convicted him, and

38:56

then he died. I think.

38:58

Now, Chris has to Look, but I know

39:00

William Defoe played him in the movie. That's

39:02

all I know. But the story was

39:04

weird. They he

39:06

he he did not

39:08

initially get arrested.

39:10

He did remain free

39:13

for an extended period of time. Years

39:15

and years and years and years sit I

39:17

bet Sid cross paths with Bob Crane. Happy to. If if

39:19

you were bopping around Los

39:21

Angeles in the like,

39:24

sixties, early seventies, and

39:26

doing as prolific as they were. Alright. We

39:28

should ask Sid Croft,

39:30

Crystal, find that story or maybe we'll bring

39:32

it back. But think he was free

39:34

for a long period of time. Then I think

39:36

they finally had enough to get

39:38

him, and then I think he died

39:40

shortly after he got him. At

39:42

least that's You can see the crime scene photos online and it's

39:44

one of those things where you go, oh, and then you see it

39:46

and you go, oh, why did I do

39:48

that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In

39:50

November, it's killed with an

39:52

extension cord or something. Yeah.

39:54

November twenty sixteen, the

39:56

Maricopa County attorney's office

39:58

permitted Phoenix TV reporter John

39:59

blood samples from Carpenter's

40:02

rental

40:02

car for retesting Carpenter was

40:06

his that that Seventy

40:08

eighteen. Yeah. From seventy eight. This

40:10

is the last name. Yeah. So nearly

40:13

forty years. Yeah. So The

40:14

testing consumed all the remaining DNA from the

40:16

rental car making further tests impossible,

40:19

but two sequences where

40:22

I identified one from an

40:24

unknown male and the other two degraded to reach a

40:27

conclusion, but Hook's investigation turned

40:29

up two blood vial samples

40:32

from Crane and Carpenter located in evidence storage at

40:35

the Maricopa County Attorney's Office.

40:37

Carpenter voluntarily gave a

40:40

sample to Scottsdale police when he

40:42

was questioned in seventy eight.

40:44

Crain's blood violence recovered during his

40:46

autopsy the day after

40:48

the murder, Both were used as comparison samples for Hooks DNA

40:50

tests on the bloodstains found in

40:52

carpenter's rental car performed

40:54

at the lab. And

40:56

yeah, so they just they found the blood samples in twenty

40:58

sixteen. Well, you know why

40:59

a lot of those you know why a lot of those DNA

41:02

samples degrade?

41:04

You don't put them in the cooler. Alright.

41:08

Okay. I mean, Colonel flavored. The

41:10

cooler. Oh,

41:12

the cooler. Yeah. Because the real Nazis had ovens.

41:14

So we don't have the cooler

41:16

cooler. That's right. Yeah.

41:19

But Carpenter was quitted and continued to maintain his

41:21

innocence until his death in nineteen ninety

41:24

eight. Oh, okay. So he

41:26

hung out for twenty years. Oh,

41:28

I got

41:30

that right. Yeah. And then he was freed and died, but so

41:32

he never got convicted. Well, he got

41:34

posthumously kind of -- Yeah. -- whatever.

41:36

Wow. That was pretty close.

41:40

cooler or you're going to the

41:42

Russian front. Yeah. It was also

41:44

cool. That

41:46

was where that's where

41:48

colonel Klink was going to go if he

41:50

kept fucking up -- Yeah. -- this

41:52

operation. Yeah. Alright. Now you

41:54

go to the Ukraine.

41:56

That's right. We will talk to great Sid Croft. Mhmm.

41:58

And again, just

41:59

so so people know, although I had him

42:02

on the show not too

42:04

long ago, I just wanna get

42:06

out the hit list. The

42:08

Lidsville, Buggaloosa, Sigman and

42:10

SeaMonsters, land of the

42:13

loss loss saucer. electro woman and Diana Girl wondered about --

42:15

Mhmm. -- mutt and stuff. DC follies. Always

42:18

forget about the Right. Prior's

42:20

place.

42:20

Richard Prior's

42:22

Richard Park had a morning gig over

42:25

there. Barbara Mandrell, the Mandrell sisters,

42:28

Pinklating Jeff, Far

42:30

out space nuts? Far out space.

42:32

We gotta ask them.

42:34

They did the lost saucer. That was

42:36

somebody

42:36

I have I have Mind

42:39

boggling Jonathan Harris news. Who's Jonathan Harris?

42:41

Doctor Smith from Lost In Space.

42:43

Oh, mind boggling.

42:46

Yes. Are you ready?

42:48

Did he not hunt?

42:50

Not gay. Not gay?

42:52

He did. Not gay

42:55

from the Bronx. wife and kids. And friend of

42:57

mine told me a story, Jeff Bond, who

43:00

wrote a book about Irwin

43:02

Allen. The when Irwin

43:04

Allen died, Jonathan

43:06

Harris is talking about Erwin Allen's wife

43:08

at the time. Let's say her name is Stephanie. I

43:10

don't know what it was. Far out space, and

43:12

that's on this. land. Okay. Then I'll get to Jonathan

43:14

Harris This is Jonathan Harris on

43:17

Irwin Alan's widow.

43:18

when Stephanie's

43:20

gonna get the money and

43:22

she should get the money because

43:24

she's a good broad. Wow. So

43:26

so but sin can verify

43:28

or deny this. Should here and go, oh no,

43:30

Dana, he was gay as balloons. So

43:34

what was considered

43:37

a

43:37

very early gay

43:40

acting icon from American

43:42

TV. Paul Paul Lynch. Paul

43:44

Lynch says that The ascot Right.

43:47

The yeah. The curve chief. Kurt yeah. The curve

43:49

chief -- Yeah. -- y'all's Nelson Riley,

43:51

Paul. Right? Right. Confirmed

43:55

confirmed bachelor's. Yes.

43:57

But The last words in every little bit,

43:59

never married. But from lost

44:01

in space, the cowardly

44:03

doctor, not gay. I

44:06

was astounded mind blown. Yeah. Alright.

44:08

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45:15

It's time

45:16

to check Adam's voice mail.

45:18

Adam

45:22

in nineteen eighty eight,

45:24

I lived in Los Angeles for

45:26

a short time doing summer school at

45:28

the American Academy of Nevada card. got a

45:30

job delivering pizzas. For the Lisa

45:33

Stretoria down a largemont village, there was

45:35

one customer that nobody wanted

45:37

to deliver to because he was this

45:39

weird guy that lived in a fancy apartment and he'd always sit that you come into

45:41

his apartment and he'd show you weird

45:44

artwork in

45:46

his bedroom My manager

45:48

told me that that guy had a TV

45:50

show. His name was

45:52

Huelhauser. You can leave us

45:54

a message at 8886341744

45:58

Heel. Can you substantiate

45:59

that? I

46:02

enjoy it. showing

46:04

off my art and there's really the

46:06

only way to really appreciate art

46:08

is not when you first see it, but

46:10

when you see it the second time when

46:13

slowly coming to on a

46:16

floor. Oh, okay. You'll so

46:18

that that is that we can substantiate that.

46:20

You know how mac and cheese is better

46:22

the next day? Mhmm. It's the

46:24

same thing. Oh, coming too.

46:26

Yeah. You see the art then.

46:28

Matt, what I like to say is

46:30

magic happens. And

46:32

then you wake up a couple hours later on the floor and you

46:34

get a better appreciation of it.

46:36

Sid Croft, led to bear. a

46:39

very suburban studio. It is so

46:42

cool that you asked me back.

46:44

Right. Well, we have such a

46:46

a first off,

46:48

we barely scratched your Lotto ticket because there's gonna be

46:50

eighty years in in

46:52

wait. Eighty two. Eighty

46:54

two years in show business is

46:58

hard to squeeze into a forty five minute interview.

47:00

That's right. You do look fantastic. And

47:02

you had not aged because we were,

47:04

like, only ten

47:06

years ago. I think you need new glasses.

47:08

Nice. Yeah. You know, that was like you I mean,

47:10

shit. I have a

47:12

mirror. I

47:14

mean, send me a picture when you're ninety three. Okay?

47:16

Yeah. You look better than my dad?

47:18

Yeah. His wife will do that

47:20

until he did. Yeah. I don't know me.

47:24

Yeah. she'll be too busy tapped

47:26

dancing on the grave. We love Yes. No. I were

47:28

I was gonna say it was great.

47:32

We had We had a lovely lunch. I was just gonna talk about

47:34

that. Yes. Sid's house

47:36

is is what

47:38

you'd imagine I think

47:40

I I have seen photos of Sid's

47:42

house on our friend, Alison

47:44

Martinez -- No. -- vintage

47:46

LA Instagram, which I highly recommend. It

47:50

it's very eclectic. It's

47:53

very artistic. It's got a

47:55

lot of reclaimed wood. in

47:57

a bricks, every piece of

48:00

material It took it off. Life is

48:02

something else. At my age, it's all

48:04

reclaimed. It

48:06

is well. reclaimed what. Wow. Look at

48:08

that. Sid's. That's my bedroom.

48:10

Sid's house first

48:14

things first, It is

48:16

essentially from a fire

48:18

hazard standpoint. It's basically a

48:20

bunch of pallets soaked in kerosene.

48:23

I mean, it is a you

48:25

cannot you should not smoke in

48:27

that house, that that much I

48:29

will say. But he has a he has a well

48:31

trained bird. Oh, yeah. Hurley. Hurley. Hurley. Hurley. Hurley. Hurley. Hurley. Hurley.

48:33

Hurley. Hurley. Hurley. Hurley. Hurley. Hurley. Hurley. Hurley. Hurley. Hurley. Hurley. Hurley. with

48:36

me thirty years. She's

48:38

an African boy. Oh, African. Yeah.

48:40

Yeah. And it was what a

48:42

trip was in? Oh, yeah. Very

48:45

I you you don't you see

48:47

relationships with people and dogs and people

48:50

with other horses and things like that, but

48:52

that rarely

48:54

with birds. this way.

48:56

African gray's and African blue's doors,

48:59

freakishly intelligent. There he is. You

49:01

know you know what he said. this

49:04

morning when I left. Today

49:06

morning was a douche. Okay.

49:08

Goodbye. Oh, really? Additives. And

49:10

on the left. There it goes. A

49:12

lot of attitude. Yeah. So

49:14

now, so we have to cover

49:16

a few things. Did you know Bob Crane

49:19

from Hogan Seras? No. I was thinking I

49:21

I was watching the show at your

49:24

show before it came

49:26

on. No.

49:28

I didn't. I

49:29

knew Manson. Really? Yeah. That was one

49:31

better. Yeah. Well, let's

49:33

let's tell that story. Okay.

49:36

There was this guy. His

49:39

parents left him, I don't

49:42

know, a

49:44

slaughterhouse. in New Jersey.

49:48

And he

49:48

was

49:49

had tons of bucks,

49:52

and he moved out I

49:54

met

49:55

him in New York.

49:57

wow

49:59

Wow. When

50:01

Kennedy's wife. Who?

50:04

Jackie O. Jackie O. You

50:06

know, used to hang out

50:08

with somebody on

50:10

Fifth Avenue that music

50:12

that he wrote, girls

50:16

that Oh, god.

50:18

I

50:18

can't remember. I don't get mired in the names.

50:20

Don't worry. No. No. No. You know what I

50:22

mean? Sorry. There aren't there aren't a lot of

50:24

sons and girls in the title. So give me

50:27

a minute. You gotta remember,

50:30

like I said, I'm ninety three years

50:32

old. So I have

50:34

senior moments But you knew you knew

50:36

Manson in New York or No. No. Out here.

50:38

And this guy that I

50:40

knew that moved out here had

50:43

a big mansion, and

50:46

Manson used to come over

50:48

with all of the girls

50:50

that

50:50

he hung out with.

50:53

and and I would always believe

50:56

because of Dennis not well, they called

50:58

it very nonsense. They hung out at Dennis

51:00

Wilson's, which

51:02

was right

51:02

almost next door to the murders. Right?

51:05

Yeah. Yeah. The murders

51:07

were in

51:08

were and Terry

51:10

Melchers. Terry Melcher

51:12

who ran the beach

51:14

boys brother records. Mhmm.

51:16

the Yeah.

51:17

Dennis Wilson picked up a couple of the

51:20

Manson Girls hitchhiking. The Manson

51:22

family basically moved into his house,

51:24

and then eventually, you know, the ate through it,

51:26

like, termites, and he's like, You gotta get out of here.

51:28

You told Manson he was gonna get a record

51:30

contract with brother records, the Beach Boys

51:32

record label. But he

51:34

told Terry Melcher who ran the record

51:36

company, Doris Day's son,

51:38

you tell him he's not you tell

51:40

him he's not gonna get a contract.

51:42

So what was your vibe of man? But here's the thing here's the thing strong. Oh. So Terry

51:45

Melcher had a house, and he rented

51:47

it to Roman Polansky he rented and

51:50

Sherrittate. Oh, and Folger was there. Which was right

51:52

next door to my friend?

51:54

Well, he really wasn't

51:58

my friend. because, you know,

51:59

those were the days where we used

52:02

to party.

52:02

Yeah. Everyday. Right. You

52:05

know, everyday there was a

52:07

party happening. Yeah. I mean, is Los Angeles

52:10

late sixties. Sixty. Yeah.

52:12

Yeah. Well, I was here in

52:14

the fifties. But,

52:16

you know, the let's just talk about

52:18

the sort of the the climate back

52:20

then. Like, Los Angeles is

52:22

filled with all these artists And we're

52:25

not really regulated like we are now.

52:27

Like now, we're very over

52:30

regulated. This was just sort of

52:32

people building, doing, making,

52:34

driving, drunk. You know, just kind of

52:36

doing whatever they wanted. What's the do

52:38

sleeping on the beach if you wanna do. You

52:40

have the flower children living

52:42

up in Laurel Canyon. What's the

52:44

Joan Didier novel of play as

52:47

it relates? REED PLAYING IS ALAEZ AND THAT'S LA

52:49

IN nineteen sixteen. AND WE ALL

52:51

HIT SHYET. Reporter: AND EVERYBODY

52:54

PICKED YOU UP and no

52:56

no danger in that. Yeah.

52:58

People would people would lock their door you didn't

53:00

have to lock their door at night. I could

53:02

remember. Look, I know that. I grew

53:04

up in LA.

53:06

And I would be getting a presenter

53:08

a freeway on on on Laurel Canyon. You

53:10

know, my mom would be driving her old Dodge

53:12

Star to VW Square back I'd see

53:14

guys standing on the on ramp to

53:17

the Ventura Freeway off of Laurel Canyon

53:19

in in Studio City. They

53:21

have a sign up that's at San Francisco.

53:23

Uh-huh. Like, my mom couldn't make it to Van

53:25

Ais without the vapor lock setting in on the

53:28

the VW, but

53:30

people would not only get around town -- Mhmm. --

53:32

they'd go to the Bay Area.

53:34

Right. It was it was it was it was it was I

53:37

mean, you know, usually probably jump in a car and you might have to

53:39

jump in five cars to get to San Francisco. But

53:42

that person got picked up and was

53:44

gone the an

53:46

hour later. And it really was the Manson murders that ended

53:48

all of that because

53:50

suddenly people People got

53:52

scared. People

53:54

saw hippies as dangerous --

53:56

Yeah. -- as opposed to just weirdos.

53:58

Yeah. Wait. I'm I'm not saying there

54:00

weirdos. That was the You know, it's and it would

54:02

have done wonders because several years

54:04

later, they instituted the

54:06

Diamond Lane, which it would have

54:08

been a perfect peanut butter

54:10

cup of a marriage of roller

54:12

skate and key for the

54:14

hitchhiker and the single driver who wanted

54:16

to utilize the diamond

54:18

lane, but Vance and fuck that all up. The

54:20

single driver is really the last

54:22

Manson. Right. I was living at the

54:24

Chateau Marmont

54:26

of facing the alleyway. because

54:29

that was

54:30

the cheapest room. And

54:32

and you

54:32

were also then staring right

54:35

at my old house. which

54:37

was two sixty five Marmont Lane. Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah.

54:40

Yeah. That's right. Yeah. The back

54:42

alley. Yeah. The

54:44

big one. Yeah. Did you

54:46

know Guy Webster? I know that names. He's a photographer.

54:49

Wow. I'm

54:51

sunset Boulevard. Yeah. That's

54:53

the guy.

54:54

Okay. I'm

54:56

I'm at Schwab's one day because

54:58

we all went to Schwab's

55:01

to have breakfast and that being discovered.

55:03

Me all the actors went to be

55:06

discovered. Okay. Then

55:08

at Sunset and Laurel Canyon,

55:11

in -- Yeah. -- right next to Googies across

55:13

the street from the Chateau. And

55:15

Pandora's box was in the

55:17

traffic island. Yeah. and across the street was

55:20

What is now coconut

55:23

teasers? But back then

55:25

Wait a minute. But I

55:27

mean, across the street on the

55:30

corner, there was

55:31

a bank there later. What

55:33

was the god, Nalala? the Garden

55:35

of Dallas. That's -- Wow. -- big house. Right. Wow. There's a

55:37

big horror house. That's how I No. No. No.

55:39

That's where every all the

55:42

actors went

55:44

secretly to

55:45

get lucky. Yeah.

55:47

Well, they're getting lucky if you

55:49

pay for it. Like, Well,

55:51

it wasn't much then. It was

55:53

probably a couple of bucks. It's

55:56

alright. Well, hold on. I wanna circle back to

55:58

Manson for a second. Yeah. By the

56:00

way, fun fact, 540

56:03

really? By

56:06

candy standards, Fun size. Fun size. Mhmm. Very

56:08

short. Napoleon Complex for

56:10

sure. Did you know him? Did you meet him?

56:12

Did you -- Yes.

56:14

-- president's with him. Or did

56:16

you get a bad vibe off him? Immediately. I got the hell out of there.

56:18

You know, it was so

56:20

creepy because

56:24

it was like a cult and

56:26

everybody felt like

56:28

he was like Jesus and

56:31

he looked like that. you

56:33

know,

56:33

long hair, nose,

56:36

and everybody that was with them

56:38

didn't have

56:40

shoes, and hepies. They

56:42

were flower children. Yeah. And

56:44

that I'll come out here for looking

56:48

for something lots of daddy issues -- Yeah. -- perfect fit

56:50

for him. But I I gotta tell you

56:52

something. Like I said,

56:54

we used to

56:56

hitchhike Jack Cole lived up

56:58

on Lookout Mountain, and I used to

57:00

walk up whose Jack Cole? Jack Cole

57:06

was a a troop of dancers, like a

57:08

ballet dancer. But they no.

57:10

Not ballet. It was a

57:12

troop famous.

57:15

the Jack Hole's answers.

57:17

And Marilyn Monroe,

57:22

every movement that Marilyn Monroe made in all of her

57:24

movies, Jack Hole

57:26

trained her, and she

57:28

would

57:28

not be without Jack.

57:32

and I used to walk up to his house

57:35

that maybe

57:36

took

57:37

forty five minutes to

57:40

an hour because he

57:42

lived way up on the top of the

57:44

hill. And I was

57:46

so fascinated because

57:48

my whole life I house

57:50

that wouldn't that

57:52

be incredible. Jackal's the

57:55

father of theatrical jazz

57:57

dance. Not not be confused with the bar,

57:59

the jack hole, which is on Santa

58:01

Monica Crossroads. And the Maryland

58:04

Monroe was always there when I

58:06

railed out all of

58:08

us. And

58:10

and all she talked about

58:13

the is she

58:15

she said

58:18

that,

58:18

no, I'm known for

58:22

showing

58:23

up late and She

58:24

said it's not my fault because I can't get a night

58:27

sleep. And, you know, and

58:29

she -- Right. -- and

58:31

and it was, like, Michael

58:34

Jackson, that was a really

58:36

good close fan of mine.

58:38

And the same vibe

58:40

came from both And they

58:42

were both the chronic insomnia x because it was

58:45

it was sleeping pills that she

58:47

owed it on. And and

58:49

she was great, just great, you know,

58:51

to talk to. I mean, we

58:53

would go off into

58:55

the garden and and she

58:57

wanted to know what I did

59:00

and and, you know, and she

59:02

was very smart lady --

59:04

Mhmm. -- you know, could you

59:06

feel whatever the

59:07

magnetism, the charisma,

59:10

having it, as they used to

59:12

say, coming off of Marilyn Monroe,

59:14

the same way you felt it in a negative way coming off

59:16

of Charles Manson. Oh, shit. No.

59:19

I mean, how

59:22

can you No. I mean, like, was it positive in it? Was the

59:24

charge Oh, I think. Yeah.

59:26

Yeah. Oh my god. He's a better

59:28

person. No. Who is that? That's what

59:30

I'm asking. or

59:32

Mardi Croft. The jury's still on Charles

59:34

NASA. Now wait a minute. Yeah. No.

59:36

I'm saying you get a good you get a very

59:38

that vibe off of Charles Manson. Did you get a very good vibe

59:41

off of Maryland? Totally. Totally.

59:43

I was, you

59:45

know, so proud to

59:48

meet her. Are Michael Jackson's

59:49

conversation? Michael Jackson's stories.

59:52

He must have been a fan of

59:56

yours hit big time because

59:58

he watched he loved all

1:00:00

children's fantasy, all

1:00:02

that, all the Sid and Marty Croft,

1:00:05

Saturday morning stuff was was, you

1:00:07

know, I would never land. There

1:00:09

was a room, I would say,

1:00:11

five times bigger than

1:00:13

where we're

1:00:13

standing, and it was

1:00:18

like tower

1:00:18

records. He

1:00:20

had everything. Uh-huh. Totally.

1:00:23

Yeah. All your

1:00:24

stuff. catalog. Oh, yeah.

1:00:26

And and I went to

1:00:28

Vegas with him because I introduced

1:00:31

him to one of the richest men

1:00:36

that wanted to

1:00:38

buy the desert in for

1:00:40

him? What year

1:00:41

was this?

1:00:44

Well, it was

1:00:45

before puffing stuff. No.

1:00:48

No. I'm sorry. It was after

1:00:50

puffing stuff, of

1:00:52

course. So It was in the

1:00:54

seventies. Later seventies. Yeah.

1:00:56

Before thriller. Oh, yeah.

1:00:58

i'll get around Oh, okay. Yeah. And

1:01:00

so did he reach out to you? How did the You

1:01:02

actually know what really happened

1:01:05

is his doctor, his skin

1:01:07

doctor, and Beverly Hills?

1:01:10

the nurse, I can't remember her

1:01:12

name. The married my friend.

1:01:14

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1:01:16

And and

1:01:17

she said to

1:01:20

me, She

1:01:20

was already married to him, but she was still

1:01:22

working for this doctor as

1:01:28

his nurse. And she said, did

1:01:30

you

1:01:30

ever meet

1:01:31

Michael Jackson? I said, no.

1:01:33

I know his brothers. really

1:01:37

well. And,

1:01:38

wow, my mother is so dry.

1:01:40

Sorry. Can I have a

1:01:41

I'll finish the

1:01:44

story. What's

1:01:44

okay. So anyway

1:01:47

This is the late seventies. Yeah.

1:01:51

let me think. Wow. I mean, I'm not sure as a

1:01:54

man. Because I I've done

1:01:56

so much in

1:01:58

my career. And

1:01:59

But it's it's It's

1:02:02

it's don't I get

1:02:04

that's fine. Pre Michael Jackson wild,

1:02:08

so low success. Well, anyway, she

1:02:10

said I'm gonna I'm gonna

1:02:12

have him call you. It

1:02:13

never happened. I

1:02:15

I was in Beverly Hills

1:02:17

weeks later, and she was across

1:02:19

the street. And I gave her the

1:02:21

finger, and I

1:02:23

said, what happened? She

1:02:24

said, no. No. He'll do it tonight.

1:02:27

Four o'clock in the morning, Michael

1:02:30

called me. and

1:02:32

said, you know, you're in the middle

1:02:34

of dreaming

1:02:37

or whatever. And I said, who

1:02:39

is this? And he said, it's

1:02:42

Michael.

1:02:42

I said, Michael who? He said Michael

1:02:46

Jackson. Right? And it's four

1:02:46

o'clock in the morning, not

1:02:49

realizing, you know, or knowing that

1:02:51

it was really him

1:02:54

And and he said,

1:02:55

oh, I

1:02:56

just can't sleep, and I thought I'd

1:02:58

call you, and I'm a huge fan.

1:03:02

and he came to my house about three

1:03:04

days later that you visit.

1:03:07

Mhmm. And and then he

1:03:09

invited me to never land

1:03:12

and and we became great friends.

1:03:14

Do you did you know

1:03:17

bubbles? Oh, yeah. It's the

1:03:19

first time I went to

1:03:23

to never land

1:03:26

of of his chauffeur picked me

1:03:28

up here and down and and drove

1:03:30

me there. and

1:03:33

took me into the

1:03:35

living room and Bubbles was

1:03:38

with his

1:03:40

first child. bubbles

1:03:40

was watching the babies. There was nobody in the

1:03:42

living room. You had a chimp watching watching the

1:03:45

yeah. That was what he called operation.

1:03:47

What did you go wrong?

1:03:50

And then -- Right. -- and No. Rashida

1:03:52

Jones tell told

1:03:54

me a story that she has

1:03:56

a bite mark on her hand from bubbles because

1:03:59

he would take bubbles over to the house because her dad is

1:04:02

quincey Johnson now. And, yeah,

1:04:04

bubbles bit

1:04:06

around it. Well, Bubbles

1:04:08

wanted me to pick them

1:04:10

up. Mhmm. And I did. Michael

1:04:12

was watching in another

1:04:15

room. and then Bubbles went, uh-uh,

1:04:17

and he wanted to go back down

1:04:19

on the couch. And and

1:04:22

then Michael walked in and

1:04:24

said to me, Wow. You

1:04:26

really love animals.

1:04:29

I said, I do,

1:04:31

but I love children more. you

1:04:33

know, and it was like, wow.

1:04:35

Why isn't wasn't there anybody in

1:04:37

the room, you know?

1:04:38

With a -- championship. --

1:04:40

which a championship found out. through Oprah that

1:04:43

that can turn on you. Oh, oh, yeah.

1:04:45

Well, the story again,

1:04:48

Bobcat told me a

1:04:50

story that you know, towards the

1:04:52

end bubbles when but was older before he

1:04:54

before he went to AAAA

1:04:57

place for a champs Center for Innapes

1:04:59

in Florida. Yeah. He was in a

1:05:01

cage and the back

1:05:04

of Neverland. Wow.

1:05:05

But but make a wish

1:05:07

kids would

1:05:08

still come and they wanted

1:05:10

to see bubbles and

1:05:13

bubbles would hurl his feces at them, which

1:05:16

was not their stated

1:05:18

wish. Oh, you mean when you only have months

1:05:20

before your

1:05:22

claim? Yeah. cancer. But that would yeah. They would obviously bubbles bubbles

1:05:24

would rocket. Well, bubbles

1:05:26

was born in nineteen eighty

1:05:29

three. So this stories

1:05:32

timeline is ahead a little more than

1:05:34

the late seventies. The only story more

1:05:36

tragic than bubbles is Elvis

1:05:38

Presley's chimp

1:05:40

scatter. Oh, I didn't I I

1:05:42

knew Elvis, but I didn't know his chimps. Well, my

1:05:44

my knowledge of celebrity

1:05:48

chimps is why my life

1:05:50

is an avalanche of the finest ladies

1:05:52

that you Oh, especially the

1:05:54

other one you have to offer. Now wait a

1:05:56

minute. You're saying that Bubbles was

1:05:58

born and eighty three. Well, according to the Internet. I'm just going,

1:06:00

you know, love. What I Never never land

1:06:02

was Never land. Never land. happen until

1:06:05

after thriller. So this had been

1:06:08

the eighties. Okay. It is the eighties. Alright.

1:06:10

Definitely. But he's having a star on

1:06:12

the planet and he wants to

1:06:14

hang out. Was his

1:06:16

voice the same on and off the air, so

1:06:18

to speak? Yeah. Like May

1:06:20

West. Yeah.

1:06:22

May West. That

1:06:23

was her character in real life,

1:06:26

and Michael, very soft

1:06:28

spoken, even more than

1:06:31

me. And he

1:06:34

was he was very cool. You

1:06:36

know? And he was

1:06:37

like a little kid.

1:06:40

and

1:06:40

he would come to my house with a water

1:06:42

gun and sit on the

1:06:44

floor and shoot water at

1:06:46

me.

1:06:46

He was like forty years

1:06:49

You know? What the He

1:06:51

was a trip, you know. And I

1:06:53

I don't believe I'm

1:06:55

sorry, but I honestly don't believe any of those

1:06:57

stars because, you know,

1:07:00

he

1:07:00

really got

1:07:02

along with little kids.

1:07:06

because

1:07:06

-- Yeah. -- the middle line of defense Wait

1:07:08

a minute. You don't love them. Because

1:07:10

he was like a little kid

1:07:13

himself, he would climb up a

1:07:16

tree. He he

1:07:17

loved my tree of -- Mhmm. --

1:07:19

you know? And he had this tree that

1:07:21

he would climb up like

1:07:22

a little kid. Do you have any good Billy Bardy stories?

1:07:24

Oh, I love Billy Bardi.

1:07:26

Yeah. Oh, I see. shows

1:07:30

that Billy Bardi do it. Almost every one of our People

1:07:32

need to understand that Billy

1:07:34

Bardi was the little person.

1:07:36

The little person that did

1:07:40

ever everything. It was all over my childhood. Yeah.

1:07:42

We had, you know, growing up.

1:07:44

There were there were,

1:07:46

like, four guys who played bikers.

1:07:50

and they would just go from movie to sitcom to sitcom

1:07:52

to movie to whoever if

1:07:54

you needed bikers, there was a fat guy

1:07:56

with a beard and there was another guy

1:07:59

There's just like four guys. And Billy Bardi

1:08:02

was the little person. Doesn't yeah.

1:08:04

I went to school with

1:08:06

Lori. His Yeah. His

1:08:08

daughter. Her daughter who was a little person,

1:08:10

but his son wasn't --

1:08:12

Uh-huh. -- which just happened to me. Which was

1:08:14

interesting. But Billy lived here to

1:08:16

look at studio city area. And

1:08:18

he was a big star. Yeah. Well, they're big star,

1:08:20

but Well, I work with

1:08:22

I work with them in inaudible.

1:08:26

Oh, really? I didn't go all the way back to Bonneville with him.

1:08:29

Oh, and Burlesque and yeah.

1:08:31

Shit. But he was a

1:08:34

real, like, cigar chomping Like, she he was a pro. Oh,

1:08:36

he found all the little

1:08:38

people for me. Uh-huh. Felix

1:08:40

Cilla? Yeah. All of

1:08:43

them. There were thirty six. They

1:08:45

needed them to get in the costumes. Right?

1:08:47

Yeah. Yeah. Like, megaleito loveless on the

1:08:51

wild wild west. He was, you know, he was he

1:08:53

was in the late sixties. He was on Star Trek, and he was on

1:08:55

the Wild Wild West. He was

1:08:58

the other big Hollywood Michael

1:09:00

Dunn. thing, Michael Dunn. Nice thing. How

1:09:02

about Elvis? What was No. He was full sized.

1:09:05

Full

1:09:08

sized Elvis. Oh, I mean, for

1:09:10

real? Yeah. Albertsons out. I we really only met

1:09:12

him once because

1:09:15

we did the Raquel in

1:09:18

the world of thin mardi Croft

1:09:20

in Vegas or a live show.

1:09:22

Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, right. Yeah.

1:09:25

And Albert was the king of that

1:09:28

hotel. This is very

1:09:29

early seventies then seven sixty

1:09:32

nine to seventy

1:09:34

three. Maybe a little later. No. No. No. Yeah.

1:09:36

A minute

1:09:37

or later. Oh, no. It

1:09:39

was In the

1:09:41

eighty. No. No. It

1:09:43

was nineteen seventy seven. he died in families

1:09:45

Yeah. Elvis is Vegas come back with six I'm not doing too good too.

1:09:47

Elvis is monkey whack a dude. died.

1:09:50

He's three. No. Elvis is Vegas come

1:09:52

back was

1:09:54

sixty nine seventy. So

1:09:56

it had to be in

1:09:58

the seventies. Yeah. Raquel West and

1:10:01

Joe Layton directly that show?

1:10:04

How

1:10:04

high was Raquel?

1:10:06

Oh my god.

1:10:08

On opening

1:10:10

night, I was in her dressing room, and she said

1:10:13

said, what if I

1:10:15

faint. I said, don't worry

1:10:17

about it. We'll close the curtain.

1:10:20

she she was

1:10:22

like, I'm sorry

1:10:25

to say this,

1:10:27

but and Vegas robot doing that show.

1:10:29

When we went to Tahoe

1:10:32

and she had

1:10:34

it, you know, all wrapped

1:10:36

and and and she was

1:10:38

terrific.

1:10:39

But in Vegas,

1:10:41

she

1:10:44

just did you

1:10:44

know, everything that she was told

1:10:46

to do. There she is. She's just with beauty. Okay. And

1:10:51

she was a dinosaur puppet there. She was all

1:10:53

puppet. Oh, yeah. because it's a one million years

1:10:56

BC sketch. And where

1:10:58

Cal came to my house

1:11:00

one night for dinner, and you

1:11:02

saw my bars too, you know. Let

1:11:05

me decide what

1:11:07

you were gonna I was.

1:11:09

Yes. It has a bar in his home. He has barstools. There are

1:11:12

unconventional barstools.

1:11:16

They're they're The beams

1:11:18

from the barn. They're made of barn beams. Yeah. They are

1:11:22

six inches by about sixteen inches Yeah. --

1:11:25

and reclaimed lumber. They're

1:11:27

mounted, fastened to the floor.

1:11:29

They come up at a

1:11:32

little angle. you

1:11:33

sit on them and they're

1:11:35

carved out -- Right. -- to a buttocks shape. Got it. And Sid

1:11:37

was telling me that

1:11:40

the template for

1:11:43

the butt shape was Raquel Welch's. I see.

1:11:45

If you knew the stool she

1:11:47

sat on, all of you Well,

1:11:49

you could boil them and make

1:11:52

soup stock. and sell that. Yeah.

1:11:53

I probably could sell each one, make them

1:11:55

buy. She's the

1:11:57

one. Is is she not? looking more beautiful

1:11:59

than

1:11:59

ever. I don't buy it. I saw

1:12:02

her yeah. I saw her party

1:12:05

a couple

1:12:06

of years ago. I

1:12:09

just watched the fantastic voyage. It was, like, walking in

1:12:11

and saying, you you haven't changed. So I say

1:12:13

the same to you?

1:12:16

Wow. Now you're getting too busy?

1:12:18

In all honesty. In all honesty. Yeah. You look crazy. You saw you met Elvis

1:12:20

in Vegas with

1:12:23

Raquel. Well, opening night. he

1:12:26

gave us a big horseshoe

1:12:29

flour or a horseshoe.

1:12:31

Wishing yeah. Wishing

1:12:33

us good luck. It was

1:12:34

awesome that show. You

1:12:37

know, it was just

1:12:39

incredible. And she was sold

1:12:41

out. She got She spent two hundred

1:12:43

and fifty thousand dollars on that

1:12:46

show. It was very spectacular.

1:12:48

Could she

1:12:50

sing, could she dance?

1:12:52

Well, yeah. Oh, yeah. No.

1:12:54

She was okay. Yeah. She would go

1:12:59

okay. It was an interesting time where took a woman who was spectacular looking

1:13:01

and he just put him out of their

1:13:03

stage and they did a little

1:13:05

singing and they did a little

1:13:08

dancing and No. We we covered

1:13:10

her with puppets, all kinds of puppets.

1:13:12

Did you need little people

1:13:14

to be in all those puppets?

1:13:18

there were twenty four puppeteers in that show. No. puppeteers the person in the

1:13:20

puppet office. In the

1:13:22

puppets,

1:13:22

and the show opened

1:13:24

up with

1:13:27

a line of thirty six marinade. Any

1:13:30

any mishaps, people

1:13:32

dying of a heat stroke

1:13:34

in the puppet outfit -- Yeah. -- staggering

1:13:37

off stage. Passing out. Yeah.

1:13:39

Fair bit. We're all

1:13:41

in line. Massing out. Yeah. I would

1:13:43

never get in one of those soon. It's

1:13:45

frightening. I have Yeah. I have

1:13:47

a super nerdy question for you

1:13:49

that I can't believe I've never

1:13:52

asked you. This is a

1:13:54

real talk about v dryness. What is the

1:13:55

difference? Is there a difference between

1:13:58

a puppet and

1:13:59

a puppet

1:14:00

and a muppet Did

1:14:03

did Jim Hanson do

1:14:05

something

1:14:05

new? Yes. I'm

1:14:07

not interested in what

1:14:10

it is. No. Wait a minute. Wait

1:14:12

a minute. Dana, papa tree

1:14:14

is

1:14:15

the oldest -- Sure. --

1:14:17

and thousands of years ago.

1:14:19

It it's the oldest form of entertainment.

1:14:21

Right. Yeah. And there's,

1:14:24

like, fifty eight

1:14:27

different kinds of Puppetry. Right. Yeah. I just made

1:14:29

a list not too long ago. Back in China, Shadow

1:14:32

Puppets, and

1:14:36

Jim Hanson, doing Lifesize half puppets

1:14:38

-- Okay. -- you know, and and they're

1:14:40

rod puppets and

1:14:43

putting a puppeteer to

1:14:47

operate not only their

1:14:49

hands, which are real

1:14:52

and operate their mouth.

1:14:54

Yeah.

1:14:54

No. It's two puppeteers. That's the

1:14:56

thing the people that I didn't

1:14:58

realize. Burton Ernie. Yeah. It's two people

1:15:00

to operate Burton Ernie. Correct? Wait a

1:15:03

minute. Two people. Four people. Four. Four. No. That's something

1:15:05

that Park was two people in there. There's two

1:15:07

people in there. Right. Yeah. But you

1:15:09

know what I mean? was you know what I

1:15:11

wanna talk about with you. Signal

1:15:14

in

1:15:14

the seat monster. Sure.

1:15:16

You know? I mean,

1:15:18

that's where we met. Yes. and

1:15:20

we were gonna do a

1:15:23

movie. And

1:15:23

I insisted it would have been great. Oh, I

1:15:27

you know, many

1:15:29

many years ago,

1:15:31

there was a guy that stood on sixth Avenue and and

1:15:37

he was nobody knew this. He was

1:15:39

I called the

1:15:43

nature boy. Right.

1:15:44

Right. Right. And he wrote the song, the

1:15:46

boy with the green hair, that movie, and the fifties. stockwell.

1:15:50

Yeah. Right in the

1:15:52

fifties. And he not and

1:15:54

there was also Moon Dog was -- Moon Dog. -- Moon Dog. And Moon Dog would be dropped

1:15:57

off by

1:15:59

a chauffeur. and

1:16:00

standing in the street, people would give him

1:16:03

money. And he looked he looked like

1:16:05

This is

1:16:07

an upbeatnik era. Yeah. Yeah.

1:16:09

But it was on sixth Avenue. Right. It was a a little downtown. No.

1:16:11

Yeah. It was a block away

1:16:14

from radio City Music

1:16:16

Hall. And

1:16:18

I

1:16:18

think when we started on

1:16:21

Sigma, I

1:16:22

loved that movie,

1:16:24

the boy with the green

1:16:27

hair. Mhmm. you know, there was a boy, an Enchanted boy. Right. No. And

1:16:29

we talked and we talked about

1:16:31

that. Yeah. And

1:16:34

Marty was pissed off I brought it up. He didn't even

1:16:37

know what I was talking about. That's it.

1:16:39

It's just yeah. It's a

1:16:44

I mean, It's ET. Before

1:16:45

ET eight k was

1:16:46

ten years later. It

1:16:48

was before ET ten years

1:16:51

later. But it's before. Yeah.

1:16:53

Or Yeah. I don't know. Where would we find this movie, the boy with a green hair? Oh, it's

1:16:55

it's around Dean Dean. Dean stopped. Well,

1:16:58

I think It I

1:17:03

It was black and white, and he the

1:17:05

only color in the

1:17:06

movie was his hair,

1:17:09

his hair, his green hair. So -- That was the --

1:17:11

Yeah. was the impetus for Sigma and

1:17:14

the CMO. No. No. That was

1:17:16

the movie.

1:17:19

I did. Sigmund and Oh, let me tell you. Every weekend

1:17:21

and I don't know

1:17:23

why I used to go

1:17:25

to the bullfights because I

1:17:28

love animals, And to

1:17:30

this day, when I think about it, I don't know what the hell that was about.

1:17:32

I don't think so. to

1:17:34

see it. love them. Yeah. Really?

1:17:39

I go to Michael Vick's house because I

1:17:42

love animals. No. And

1:17:44

so and I used

1:17:46

to go to La Jolla on

1:17:48

Saturday Sunday morning,

1:17:50

I go down to Tijuana and, you know, whoever I was with

1:17:55

is a great story. I took Julia

1:17:57

Prowls. You remember? Of course. Yeah. I took her So you'd go to

1:17:59

tier one and go

1:18:02

to the bullfight. Bullfight.

1:18:04

Yeah. And and and

1:18:06

so, anyway, it was a Saturday. I I always

1:18:11

had a corvette so I couldn't take my

1:18:13

surfboard. So we used to rent them. And I went with

1:18:15

a friend of mine. I

1:18:18

don't even remember who it

1:18:20

was. and and we

1:18:22

were gonna go surfing, six thirty in the morning, and we

1:18:24

went down to Cove

1:18:27

Beach in La Jolla. And

1:18:31

maybe we had

1:18:32

a little hit before we went

1:18:34

down. I mean, who smokes a

1:18:36

lot at six thirty in

1:18:39

the morning? Right? And I'm

1:18:41

walking down the beach and there was this seaweed.

1:18:43

I've never saw anything like it

1:18:46

because I'm a beach

1:18:48

person. I've

1:18:50

seen it all around there.

1:18:52

And and I I picked it

1:18:54

up and it seemed like it was

1:18:59

the sea we would start a living, and and

1:19:01

there was a hippie in

1:19:04

inside of

1:19:06

one of the coves. down on the beach, smoking

1:19:08

pot or whatever. He he

1:19:10

was there overnight sleeping or

1:19:14

whatever. And I said, hey,

1:19:16

would you do me a favor and watch

1:19:18

this for me? Because I'm gonna go get my car. I

1:19:22

wanna bring this back because

1:19:24

I'm building a treehouse, and we were like two

1:19:26

little kids. Uh-huh. Right? And I and

1:19:30

nobody's gonna believe me.

1:19:32

I have no problem believing this.

1:19:34

No. No. No. Nobody's gonna believe this this crazy. So that's

1:19:37

how the TV show

1:19:39

came about. Yep. Okay. So I'm

1:19:42

driving. Yes. And and we didn't bring Nacy Week back because when

1:19:47

I came back, the tide came in.

1:19:49

The guy had smoked it. No. The hippie was gone and

1:19:52

and and

1:19:55

sigmund I gave it the name immediately, Sigman because it

1:19:57

was so smart. It was

1:19:59

like

1:19:59

alive.

1:20:01

And Sigman

1:20:04

was waving in the ocean. We

1:20:06

tried to swim out to get them, and it was so rough

1:20:08

that

1:20:08

was so ruff

1:20:10

There was no

1:20:11

segment wherever he went.

1:20:14

He had a family.

1:20:16

And everybody has

1:20:18

a family. Right? though piece what did now

1:20:20

what what's the next process? You you

1:20:22

come back? No. No. I'm driving back

1:20:27

with my friend. We're driving back after

1:20:29

the bullfight, and it's quite a trip, you know, to come back

1:20:32

to LA. and

1:20:35

I'm going, holy shit. This is for the next

1:20:37

show. Wait a minute. We're

1:20:39

two kids,

1:20:40

we're two kids

1:20:42

you know? And We keep we hide him out in

1:20:44

my treehouse, and I'm ready to

1:20:46

build, you know. And I go

1:20:48

through the whole and

1:20:50

he's gotta have a family. you know,

1:20:53

all in all in the family was a big hit

1:20:55

then. True. Yeah. That's true. And so it

1:20:58

that was, you know, sweet

1:21:01

mama and big daddy, you know. Big daddy

1:21:03

was Archie bunker. Yeah. With their voices.

1:21:04

Mhmm.

1:21:08

And then I came back. That was

1:21:10

Sunday. I come back to the art department and I Because it

1:21:15

was tough. every year, all three networks would wait

1:21:17

to see the insane

1:21:20

Siggroft come in. What

1:21:22

are you gonna do next

1:21:24

season? with another,

1:21:26

you know, you just can't

1:21:27

come up with a it's it's hard to come up with a new

1:21:32

idea. Yeah. and man you

1:21:34

had and make a work. All the characters have to feed

1:21:36

stories And all

1:21:38

kidding aside, you had a

1:21:42

backtacular run.

1:21:44

Holy shit. Are you

1:21:46

kidding? It's it's just like

1:21:49

I

1:21:49

mean, Adam, when he knocked

1:21:51

the shit out of our stuff, you know, I

1:21:53

loved it. I was the only

1:21:55

one that loved

1:21:57

it because I said, I've I've never

1:22:00

thought people kids,

1:22:03

especially kids would

1:22:05

hook on to any of our shows.

1:22:07

Oh, yeah. Well, our Twenty six

1:22:09

shows. Twenty six shows. Well,

1:22:11

I mean, I can do the

1:22:13

theme song to just about all --

1:22:16

Right. -- which is a ultimate burned

1:22:18

in your sight. But Adam, you need

1:22:20

to see a doc. there.

1:22:24

You know, I mean, how could

1:22:26

you read after fifty years remember

1:22:28

remember all

1:22:30

the same songs. I was at

1:22:32

a a comic con. Like, Dana

1:22:34

could

1:22:34

do a few of that. Oh,

1:22:36

yeah. Yeah. Well, let's see. What y'all

1:22:38

pump and stuff? Where you go when things

1:22:40

get right? Wait. Who's your friend? Who's

1:22:42

your friend when things get up? You can't

1:22:45

do a little, but you can't do enough.

1:22:47

Instead, stay up wild from Oliver. And we We're

1:22:49

sued for that. So We will tell people about it. Yeah. That's right. you.

1:22:56

Huey Lewis. No. Not an

1:22:58

inside. There are. No. That was a Simon

1:23:03

and Yes. This is a very interesting

1:23:06

And then nobody has heard that Paul Simon has a writing credit.

1:23:08

Yeah. On on puff and

1:23:10

flight. Let's get the song. Yes.

1:23:15

Because it's HR puff and stuff.

1:23:17

Who's your friend? Yes. They So it's, like,

1:23:19

feeling rude. A feeling

1:23:21

rude. can't do a Four

1:23:24

no. Four no. Four no. Yeah. You gotta find

1:23:26

the feeling groovy and then they're in the song.

1:23:28

There it is. the tools

1:23:33

Cool. suing

1:23:45

for the beginning part.

1:23:47

Right? Yeah. And Marty this

1:23:51

is before we went on the air and Marty, you

1:23:54

know, had a fit

1:23:56

because Yeah. That seems like a

1:23:58

real streak as we are in shock.

1:24:01

you know, the opening with the music.

1:24:03

Alright. You can pot it down. So you're

1:24:08

contacted by his people.

1:24:10

His lawyer Simon's lawyer and says, hey, man. Take that off. We're gonna sue

1:24:16

your ass. No. Yeah. And the

1:24:18

way they settled it was to give him credit.

1:24:20

He's got credit on

1:24:23

it. And and that way

1:24:25

as Kathy gets a little ting ting every time. I guess. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah.

1:24:27

I haven't seen any money right from the beginning. So

1:24:30

what do I know? I don't even drink

1:24:32

to water.

1:24:35

Yes. This water. Here's all here's a

1:24:37

here's a similar story. So Jean

1:24:40

Rodenberry hires

1:24:44

Alexander Courage to write the theme

1:24:46

to Star Trek. He gets the theme. Then without telling

1:24:51

Alexander Courage, Jean Rodenberry writes lyrics to the song

1:24:53

-- Mhmm. -- that are hilariously

1:24:55

terrible. Right. Submits it

1:24:58

to ask him. So now Alexander Curry just the split.

1:25:00

With with His name

1:25:02

is Eugene Rineberry. Wow. And

1:25:04

he was, oh, I need a

1:25:06

little what what my big Wow.

1:25:08

And what that must have generated over the years. Yeah.

1:25:10

But that's so weird because that's I

1:25:15

don't see the similarity. There are other songs that

1:25:17

are so clearly Like, I

1:25:19

can see He's so

1:25:21

fine in my sweet lord. It's tough one

1:25:23

for me too, but but Or

1:25:26

the other one is a

1:25:28

a girl and

1:25:30

hello I love you.

1:25:32

Yeah. girl, I want to be with

1:25:34

you all the time. Alberto? I love you, Rodrigo. Yeah. Yeah. You're exactly

1:25:38

right. Well, the thing that's crazy too. has to

1:25:40

find is soul finger because I bring it up

1:25:42

all the time. The thing that the

1:25:45

bar case. By the bar case,

1:25:47

the thing that's funny is ghostbusters.

1:25:50

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, by he with Lewis, could sound like I wanna know for a new

1:25:53

drug. Yeah. But

1:25:56

it really The parka's

1:25:58

did your spacers before. Oh my god. You're right.

1:26:00

You're right. So

1:26:03

it's I ride that

1:26:05

they sued Huey or a suit Huey suit them. Right. But the Barclays should

1:26:08

have sued.

1:26:12

Yep. Great. And they even have they go go

1:26:14

spicy. They go so Yeah. So big. Yeah.

1:26:16

No. You're right. You're you're I have

1:26:18

never heard that. You're absolutely right. Again,

1:26:22

a panty dropper for any of

1:26:25

the twenty four year old. This is

1:26:27

ladies listing. Right. Sausages party.

1:26:29

I saw Well, you know what

1:26:31

it is. I'll tell you what it is because Sid is ninety three

1:26:33

and you're fifty eight,

1:26:36

but you're combined

1:26:38

age is two thousand and seventy

1:26:41

seven of the nudge

1:26:43

in the references. Why

1:26:45

the sixty seven? Why did the original

1:26:47

father leave and land the lost? I

1:26:49

believe he was replaced by Ron

1:26:52

Harper. Yeah.

1:26:53

yeah Again,

1:26:54

you know what? I'm

1:26:56

gonna take this into the in the

1:26:58

arid. Yes. You know what? You litter

1:27:00

box. You're gonna have to ask

1:27:02

marted that question because it's

1:27:05

like Lenny Weinreb,

1:27:08

who

1:27:08

I found. he

1:27:10

was in a show off of

1:27:12

Hollywood Boulevard, the Billy Bond's review. Do

1:27:13

you remember that? Sure. No. No. I didn't remember

1:27:16

it. Yeah. And

1:27:19

and that's where I found all of our

1:27:22

voice people that recorded

1:27:25

for my puppet shows. Right.

1:27:27

So when puffing stuff happen and all those

1:27:30

other shows, Lenny wrote

1:27:31

the original

1:27:34

script and he

1:27:35

did the voice of puffing stuff and

1:27:37

many of the characters,

1:27:39

brilliant voice

1:27:40

person. Did

1:27:42

you know No. I didn't. I

1:27:44

didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I

1:27:46

didn't even learn a lot. My show

1:27:49

will and Holly. Unearned routine x pedition.

1:27:51

Alright. You're going up. You're hitting a no. You're going

1:27:53

up. I'm saying it like fuel. It's

1:27:55

March. We're going

1:27:58

all the way down. on a routine expedition.

1:28:00

And power is a mess

1:28:02

of the freak ever known.

1:28:04

High on the rapids and

1:28:06

ship their tiny rap and send

1:28:08

and damn a thousand

1:28:10

feet below. To the land of the law. You

1:28:14

guys Can I

1:28:17

say this? No. No. You guys have

1:28:19

to control it yourself. I mean, I mean, ask me

1:28:21

my kid's middle name, Dana. Yeah. Like, what the fuck

1:28:24

over there? women

1:28:26

who are near the building, who have

1:28:28

no idea what's going on or just let's

1:28:31

get out of this neighborhood. I

1:28:34

remember, like, having Dana, do you remember this? So

1:28:36

what happens is you're ten,

1:28:38

eleven, twelve years old. You

1:28:40

have the brain of a comedian,

1:28:43

but you're unaware of this. Yeah.

1:28:45

Because of your dad and your mom and your

1:28:47

environment or whatever. But you start having thoughts. It's being a comedian. It's

1:28:51

like being gay. Like, when you're

1:28:53

laughing, you're like, I like that guy Josh over there, but, oh, that's weird. I lose that. No.

1:28:55

No. No. No. Come on. You're getting married. You're

1:28:58

gonna have kids, you know. This is the

1:29:00

next thing. So

1:29:03

these funny flashes, like popping your head and then

1:29:05

you go ignore it. You're gonna be a copper

1:29:07

fireman, you know. Keep walking. I

1:29:10

remember listening to Marshall, Will, and Holly. On I was eleven, you know.

1:29:12

On a routine exhibit

1:29:15

and I was like, what's

1:29:18

about a root of that expedition? No.

1:29:20

It rimes. It has

1:29:22

to rue. He doesn't there

1:29:25

is. You're flying in the face

1:29:27

of expedition. When I travel burdened, go to the

1:29:29

south pole in a routine. Yeah. There's

1:29:31

no joke. I just told this

1:29:33

story two days ago. And I've

1:29:35

never said it my first

1:29:38

bit, I was eight, and

1:29:39

it was the

1:29:40

i was eight

1:29:42

it was It

1:29:44

was the lyrics to the theme to Kung Fu. Oh,

1:29:46

my God. And it was it was like oh, yeah.

1:29:50

No. They're lyrics to this is my bit that I wrote. Oh, yeah. There

1:29:52

are no letters yet. But and I

1:29:54

had this bit and it was, come, food.

1:29:58

Like, that was it.

1:29:59

But, like, at eight years

1:30:02

old, like, I got a bit.

1:30:04

I got a bit.

1:30:06

I got a bit. I I would

1:30:09

I did the same thing with

1:30:11

the theme from SWAT. This is a jump through windows, and we're pulling

1:30:13

down the perp. We're

1:30:16

SWAT, but like,

1:30:18

we where the comedic mind was

1:30:20

filling in -- Yes. -- weird things

1:30:22

in my So perfect. So we're

1:30:24

the same age. So we're having these

1:30:26

thoughts from our tan eleven years old. I was

1:30:28

doing observational kung fu humor

1:30:30

because I was saying to

1:30:32

everyone who didn't wanna hear

1:30:34

it when I was ten. Like, This

1:30:36

guy walks into town barefoot with his

1:30:38

flute. He says he wants water and

1:30:40

that's all. He

1:30:43

means no harm. He he wants he wants he

1:30:45

simply wants a glass of water and then he's going to leave, but he means no one will

1:30:47

harm. And then proceeds to kick the

1:30:49

shit out of everyone in the town,

1:30:52

every episode. done.

1:30:54

Great. So does he really not want trouble?

1:30:56

because he beats a shit out of every

1:30:58

county, every episode. And I was doing,

1:31:00

like, observational tales guy humor. Here is my

1:31:03

observational ten year old guy joke about Kung Fu. At the beginning of every episode of Kung Fu, Cain would

1:31:07

come into town And he

1:31:09

would meet two people. Yes. One of them, he would kick the hell out of -- Yeah. -- by the

1:31:11

end of the show. First guy called him China.

1:31:14

Right. And it was always a choice. It

1:31:16

was either the

1:31:19

guitar playing none or the guy who kept a blind kid

1:31:21

in a band. I was gonna say that this wasn't

1:31:23

a hard choice. There was oftentimes a

1:31:25

blind woman who would fall in

1:31:27

love with him. You know my

1:31:30

you know, all I wanna do. The best Kung Fu joke is Margaret Chose, which is the name of that show should been, hey,

1:31:33

that guy's

1:31:36

not Chinese. I

1:31:38

if I make it to your age, I only

1:31:40

want one thing. And Are you talking

1:31:42

to Nancy? You're talking to me. I

1:31:45

made it to Dana's age. All I

1:31:47

want is for a woman who I come across

1:31:49

in a small village to take

1:31:51

her hand and drag it

1:31:53

down my face and announce

1:31:56

some beautiful. That's

1:31:58

all I want and then I can

1:32:00

die. I don't care if it happens next

1:32:02

week. I will fucking be smiling as I'm

1:32:05

heading down toward the earth. That's all

1:32:07

I want. The back of the hand drag along the cheek and announce it. I'm beautiful.

1:32:09

God. I love that.

1:32:11

That'd be awesome. if

1:32:14

when you find that woman, would you call me?

1:32:16

I'd like to travel to that woman. I want

1:32:19

it to be there in front

1:32:21

of me. You know what blew me

1:32:23

away? last La Queen dying, and they kept

1:32:25

saying, she's ninety six. She's and

1:32:28

I suddenly thought, holy

1:32:31

shit. I'm ninety three. I

1:32:34

only got three more years. Yeah. No. You can do it now. You go well past the queen. You

1:32:37

can much

1:32:40

more productive. Alright.

1:32:42

Thank you. Let me get a wait. You you you've been pretty and you're feeling and I'm gonna tell you. You

1:32:44

fell out again. Did

1:32:46

you play did you

1:32:49

play, Gross. He goes, no, YouTube. No, I didn't. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, all the, you know No,

1:32:51

I never did. I

1:32:55

went, look, I would have loved

1:32:57

anything out of here. I'm gonna guess you agree with me. I would have loved to have gone back

1:32:59

to the days of, like, summer clubs

1:33:02

like you wore a suit

1:33:05

Yeah. Oh, come on. Yeah. I

1:33:07

played the Coconut Grove. No. No. No. Listen. On Tuesday night, you have

1:33:10

to wear tuxedo. Right.

1:33:13

and the women had to come in

1:33:15

and go. And, you know, I worked there with all the big bands like, you know,

1:33:20

Harry James. Harry James. That's where

1:33:22

I met. Who was he married to?

1:33:24

Oh my

1:33:25

god. Well, look,

1:33:27

I think we started have

1:33:30

the Prince of Earth. No.

1:33:32

No. No. No. Harry

1:33:34

James. Harry James was married to

1:33:36

Betty Grabble. Betty Grabble. I should

1:33:38

know it like my own name. And

1:33:41

we used to betty graham when

1:33:43

I was with Judy

1:33:46

Garland in Miami. At the

1:33:48

front

1:33:48

and blue, Betty Gray, who was

1:33:51

playing in another hotel I

1:33:53

knew were because of Harry

1:33:55

James. And we to get on the bus. She'd go into the skies

1:33:58

because she was a big big

1:33:59

star. Yeah. And we

1:34:02

get on the bus on

1:34:04

Collins. and

1:34:06

just listen to the people. That's what But to me, remember Jackie Mason -- Sure. -- to

1:34:09

get all

1:34:12

of this theory. We just get on

1:34:14

the bus and listen to the I know miss a voice of the art park -- Yeah. -- from

1:34:16

the anteater in

1:34:19

the art park. Right. if

1:34:21

that, in fact, was him or

1:34:23

someone doing it, Jackie Mason? No. They because they were not ashamed of just ripping

1:34:29

away. The guy that just feel so mad, top cat, just be

1:34:31

that guy. Oh, yeah. They would just tell everyone to be that guy.

1:34:33

By the way, if Paul Simon

1:34:35

can sue you for for

1:34:38

the HR puffers of too much eye. Jackie Mason can

1:34:40

sue because that wasn't Jackie Mason. How

1:34:43

can the honeymooners not sue

1:34:46

the Flintstones? Right. We we could go on forever,

1:34:48

but, unfortunately, we've come to the

1:34:50

end of our time. No way. We've

1:34:52

ended the show. We and we've

1:34:54

ended the show on such a timely observation. Why

1:34:56

didn't the Flintstones do that, but

1:34:58

I didn't get the honors. I

1:35:02

didn't get to talk about Rubracci and all

1:35:04

those other Well, I can't imagine

1:35:06

there's any interesting stories about Rubracci.

1:35:09

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