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Welcome, everybody, to the Advanced Selling Podcast,
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the longest running sales training podcast and
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podcast history. My name is Brian Neal.
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Merry Christmas from Bill Kaskin. No, happy.
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Merry Christmas. Glad you're here. So thankful. What a
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great year it's been. I know people like, it's
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a pretty good year, you know, it's not bad.
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And we're heading to the New Year. So this will be our last
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official episode, I believe, we'll go
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best of on Christmas Day there. And
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thrilled that you're here. If you
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don't belong to the
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LinkedIn group, go there, we're gonna have lots of
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group. We're over 13,000 people, they're headed to 14,000.
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It was great. And you know what, do
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us a favor. Is it? Oh, here you go, Bill. This
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is a Christmas ask. People,
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what do you want for Christmas? What do the
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listeners ask us? What do we want for Christmas?
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I've got an answer. I want you to tell
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as many of your colleagues and friends who are
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in sales as you can about the events. Like,
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that's good. I'm gonna do a little Christmas campaign.
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Like, you know what, if you're looking to start
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off 2024 in a good way, you don't
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listen to podcasts, you should if you do listen to
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this one, the event. So everybody's go to your LinkedIn,
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and just put the link of the show and say,
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Hey, listen to these cats. They're pretty cool dudes. And
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we have several people who have done that too. We
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commented on that. But you know, if
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you go to the app, you can share
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the you can share the podcast, just hit
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share, and you can send it to as
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many people as you want. And you could
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just say what awesome two human beings we
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are, or how, however you
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would proclaim that and then you can do it that
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way. So it's right there in the app, share, share
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this episode. It's still amazing how many people don't listen
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to podcasts. And then how many
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salespeople don't listen to ours. A
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lot of people listen to a lot of people don't. Well, you've
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been doing stuff for 17 years, you'd think you're gonna catch on.
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I just like talk to a group of sales people like
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you listen to podcasts. And they're like, Yeah, listen to sales
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podcasts. Yeah, which ones I listened to the and they start
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reading out the podcast like podcast, huh? Okay,
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I'll check it out. Okay, what's his audience
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are gonna. Side. So you had
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a you had a story that I've got a trio
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that am I sorry to say I? yeah the story
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dog or the treat a treatise fantastic Just this is
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a a thing I was listening to the news I'm
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you know what? The Attorney General as. A
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hug Attorney General in there's there's fifty attorney.
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General's. Or attorneys General?
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That's the problem. What's the plural of
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Attorney General? It's very annoying. Attorneys
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General Attorneys General. Why is it
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Attorney General's It should be Attorney
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General's Are they the general? Like
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their the captain of the teams?
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A General. The. Commander. Of
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the army or they just attorneys who
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are generic. Food. You're letting them
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or leisure by the insignificant things go.
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Why is it a attorneys general sounds
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so pompous to me? Like Wells Forty
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eight of the forty to turn his
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general got together to ban the tic
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toc. I'm like, what. It's
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attorney general like. Make it easy. What's wrong with
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me Now help me grammar guy. It's a weird
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thing, isn't it? I
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don't know why it is. it is and I hear I
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hear it. Mistakenly. Pronounced. but
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it it it is. Attorneys General think I
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looked it up once. It's kind of like
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Data, you know, David Attenborough? Yeah, for data,
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a debt is plural and so. A
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data is not yet. It's. It's
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them sounds of the author of ah
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now ours Now the words Need pronouns?
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Assess? assess Oh just ah. Jeez Opiates
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good Anyway so that when annoys me
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I don't know why her on the
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news and your grammar guys or doing
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well. The one that annoys me so
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much and we talked about it is
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less versus few. Dolls. Games
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will make that mistake all the time you're
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not running. yes I are there farther have
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or as friends than you do. Now you
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have fewer friends. You are for his Us
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are they wait what? By way to act
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like a. I
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was danny friends. may I would say
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I'm glad of less under. Ah Ok
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I'm excited for this tree. Y'all be
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excited because here's a great thing: Dulcet.
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You replay Forty versus. I want
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to hear okay well this is that a
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little tree because it is a holiday season
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and. And. You're going to hear from a
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little girl named Saw your stops here. We. Go. We
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will increase massively.
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Fast. Food
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is he. Was.
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Phone and. Say
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a pretty going. On.
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How. To
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do so, he
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was. From
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the Garden. Now in my
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god, are you kidding me?
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That's the greatest podcast episode.
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Manafort podcast right there. Done.
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Show's over. Let's retire or
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dies. Good rate run. Oh
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my gosh, What! she did three or four songs
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and I I do another roach ouster appearance. She
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comes on the microphone I tell director and you
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could hear me in the background little bit although
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he did. Name's got a pretty good boy some
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is yours is easily tune keeps me pretty well.
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The g. Seven. Season Two
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men but she's just starting to read and so
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we've got our order to thing where she was
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trying to read on the screen our yeah. But.
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City City planning was the greatest.
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Thing. That's ever happened inside that
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out is fantastic. Yeah, if you
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don't listen to that, You
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know that's why did however by your listeners
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share this episode so there was equally as
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for a nominal with also think you what
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do we get royalties of the pair he
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has. ah dario
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topic topic today i was listening to
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a podcast the other day that i
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thought ask a question that i want
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to us to ask Yep.
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So I love the SP three fits. Great
12:02
model. Great model. Great chair. Yeah.
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SP 350 X, which is the higher
12:07
level for the tall guys in the
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metal chair. Six five. Um,
12:14
I probably would write it myself and then
12:16
send it to maybe an editor. You can
12:18
find an editor on fiber for a hundred
12:20
bucks, have them really, really contour it. Um,
12:22
I would go to fiber and get a,
12:25
uh, cover designed and
12:27
I wouldn't, I would spend some, you know, you're
12:29
going to spend $30 on that and we're not talking
12:31
much. You could be all in on this thing for
12:33
a couple hundred dollars and you're
12:35
going to have to put it somewhere, uh,
12:38
so that you can promote it. So
12:41
you'll probably need a web page of some kind,
12:43
or maybe your company has a page that they
12:45
can put it on, on their website that just
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has a picture of the document and
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maybe a video for you saying, here's why you should
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download this in a place for name and email address.
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That might cost you a hundred bucks, but,
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and then all you're doing
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for the first 90 days is promoting that.
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It's great. You're spending all your time on
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LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, wherever you go, promoting
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it. You're having it, you're having it with you
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and saying, Hey, I just wrote this. If you're
13:10
a dentist and you want to figure out a
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way to do an extra million dollars using the
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SP 350 X or Y
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or XL, make sure you download this.
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There's all sorts of ideas in here. Put your name
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and address below. And it's gone on its way to
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you. I guarantee you
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if you do that and you find the
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right, I mean, you've got to find the
13:29
right topic that's going to really appeal to
13:32
that, to your customer base, you're
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going to have hundreds of people who will
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download that. And from there, then there's
13:39
all sorts of different things you can do again,
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call pack, all that, but, but
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for four or $500, you can have
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this document done and use it all
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year. Yes. That's the
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main thing. These things we're talking about investing.
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So you invest in LinkedIn
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that continues on investing. Crystal knows that
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continues on. You invest in a piece
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of a branding piece. that draws
14:00
people in that carries on. And
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that's the thing, these are leveraged investments. These are really,
14:04
really great things to do. Versus I'm gonna buy a
14:06
Super Bowl ad, can't for a
14:09
thousand bucks. Right, or I'm gonna buy a
14:11
new camera or a new microphone. Okay, yeah,
14:13
you need that. But I'm
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aiming and really those two go along
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together because we have LinkedIn premium and
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you message people, say, hey,
14:21
enjoyed it, hope we can connect. By
14:23
the way, I just wrote this really
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quick read piece on how to leverage
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your SP350. Yes. If
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you'd like to get it, here's the page. Well, now
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you're gonna have those people that go and download. They're
14:35
not having to talk to you. Yeah.
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Now, eventually you will, but you
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could use those two things in concert. Love
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it. Love it. Because over three
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months, that'd be less than a thousand bucks. You get crystal
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arrows, you get LinkedIn premium. Yep, that's $500 on one, a
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few hundred dollars on the other. For
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a thousand dollars, now you have something that's
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working all day long for you. You're rolling.
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Exactly what you said. Yeah.
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And if you wanna take some of the money, invest in
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LinkedIn ads or Facebook. Yeah. To get
15:03
contract. People always say, well, it's my marketing
15:05
company's deal. Outside the rules for
15:07
like, do it yourself. But
15:09
they're not doing it. They're not doing it. To do
15:11
it yourself. It's not that hard and not that expensive.
15:13
It's really good. Let's
15:15
see the, there's so many things.
15:17
So I'm gonna say this one. I
15:20
would take part of the thousand dollars and
15:23
I would host some
15:25
event for your
15:27
connectors. People that are
15:29
in your world who
15:31
would want to hear from someone that that thousand dollars
15:33
might go to the speaker or might go to a
15:36
venue or something like that. Sometime
15:38
early in the year to create buzz
15:41
toward you. So you're the hub,
15:44
we call this hub selling. So you invite something that could be,
15:46
and all you gotta do is say, well, what
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would the event be about? Just ask your customers. Back
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to the dental thing. If you call in dentists, you
15:52
probably have some customers who are dentists. You say, hey,
15:55
if you were gonna get together for like a lunch
15:57
and learn sort of thing around the business of dentistry,
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what's the... number one topic you'd want to hear about.
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Go ask 10 dentists that I guarantee a six of them
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have the same answer. Find the expert
16:05
net tell them hey I'll pay your plane ticket for 500
16:07
bucks to come to this event. Invite all
16:10
your customers invite all your prospects. Yes.
16:13
Video it, audio it, transcribe it. You have
16:15
marketing that goes on forever and ever and
16:17
ever. You're the middle, you're the hub, you're
16:19
the host, you have all the names. It's
16:22
a great thing. That's awesome. That's
16:24
awesome. If you're in a
16:27
territory or a region where you know coming
16:29
to something is prohibitive then do it online.
16:31
You can do it on Zoom or StreamYard.
16:34
We use StreamYard. Yes. Promote
16:36
it with a little graphic that has the
16:38
pictures of the people. You see this all
16:40
the time on Twitter and on LinkedIn. It's
16:43
a summit. It's kind of a panel discussion
16:45
or a summit. Totally. But that's
16:47
one thing I would do. I was even
16:52
thinking when you were talking about that if
16:54
you could set it up so that you
16:57
were the one being interviewed. So,
17:00
a whole discussion on a
17:02
stage. No audience. Don't need an audience.
17:04
It's just you and the interviewer and
17:06
you tell them here here's 15 questions
17:08
to ask me and there's a
17:10
two camera shoot. So you've got the two
17:13
shot and then you have the individual so
17:15
that when you're speaking you're on camera. Yes.
17:17
I mean you know now
17:20
people assign position with that. They're gonna say
17:22
oh well you know Brian Neal he was
17:24
on a stage and he was being interviewed
17:26
and I liked his answers and it was
17:28
well produced. Is that gonna
17:30
cost you? No probably not. It's gonna cost you $500 to rent
17:33
the stadium or to rent the venue and maybe
17:37
a four or five hundred dollars on for videographer
17:39
and then under a thousand. So now again like
17:41
you said Brian you're using that all year. You're
17:43
taking clips of it and then
17:45
when you have a new prospect you can
17:47
say hey I recently did a panel discussion
17:49
with somebody thought you'd like to see it
17:51
and you either send them the whole thing
17:53
or clip it up in parts. So good.
17:56
Gary Vaynerchuk we all know him right? Yep.
17:58
Marketing Guy. The kind thing was here
18:01
in Indian may. I went down there for it. He.
18:03
Still, because I was there. still.
18:06
Uses. Content for that It is does
18:08
whatever it is you know. December seventeenth,
18:10
eighteenth. From. May he's over and
18:12
over and over and over and over
18:14
and once in a going wait a
18:16
second. Burst weaves on the
18:19
trees in his with Conrad by and
18:21
there's no one do in that there
18:23
was under the counter. Now.
18:25
Over and over and over and
18:27
over. So this strategy there is
18:29
due at once read purpose for
18:32
a long time. Yeah, I'm. Get
18:35
by in your of the like ten
18:37
and crystals by access to information that
18:39
allows you to get in front of
18:41
people in. my first phone was create
18:43
something that allows people to op down
18:46
in some way. And.
18:48
We just don't do enough of that, so maybe
18:50
it's a couple granted do that. but again, This
18:53
is an investment. A thousand dollars could
18:55
yield fifty thousand dollars for your next
18:57
year. If you do it right and
18:59
keep with it and promote it, there's
19:01
no reason to. Can't They can't Fifty
19:03
x your money gets. Too many
19:05
sales people have their fists clenched around
19:08
their money. That's. right? I was not
19:10
my job marking job well and I want
19:12
to and hours commissioner to get on loose
19:14
loosen the grip on your money. For.
19:17
It to work for You gotta do. There are
19:19
people are so hesitant to do this and will
19:21
with the waiting for. His
19:23
own people do it a boner. I buy him. In
19:26
a meeting or marketing people. Most.
19:28
Marketing people are just not that good at this.
19:30
They dress it's like they don't think line of
19:32
thinking know they don't you use thank you and
19:34
I say can a sales professionals to think well
19:37
what can I do to get in front of
19:39
more people? Marketing efforts are now Africans If they
19:41
think of like matching pantaloons. right? Now
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amino acids they are for A and
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sixteen is that the approve yellow? I
19:48
think we're now on. I'm sunrise that
19:50
the job rude yellow to order set
19:52
it up because like poll or the
19:55
next six months. In the meantime you
19:57
can create displays things totally hours Nadia
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once. Amen to that. Now I get
20:01
one good one. While we wish you all
20:03
a happy holiday season you know can't help
20:05
you have a great a great time off
20:07
if you take time off and just a
20:09
chill little bit, relax with the family, have
20:11
fun and know. And Brian or
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I'll be back. Lord willing first of the
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year. This is not our last episode even
20:18
though I said you know what, we're going
20:20
to retire those not really excited about that
20:23
next year and ah what a way to
20:25
end their attention. If we do really are
20:27
weeks as we do we do. We have
20:29
a yeah the up advance only podcasts and
20:32
your one I can totally is a have
20:34
I haven't a good run here last ten
20:36
years for with around ask us okay that's
20:38
that's just awesome. Have been a or a
20:41
theory Christmas, Sir Brian and my own a
20:43
former listeners same fears about.
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