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Have you told your friends that you see ghosts? Oh,

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absolutely not. Gina

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Rodriguez returns in Not Dead Yet.

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I'm Black Baby. Who is

0:10

that? Oh, she's the obituary writer. And Brad

0:12

Garrett joins the brilliant ensemble cast. Titan,

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Maverick, Titan of all Mavericks. These

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are all words used to describe me. Not

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the Glass Cannon Network. Yo!

1:02

What is going on,

1:04

everybody? Welcome back to the FOD. It

1:07

is Wednesday, February 7th, 2024. And

1:09

I'm your old buddy, Joe O'Brien.

1:11

And I'm Troy. I'm reading about

1:14

the new Chaosium Arkham book, La

1:16

Valley. Oh! We're

1:19

doing a show. Can you please stop

1:21

browsing around your exciting gaming news? Just

1:23

came out. It's really, really exciting. You

1:26

like Call of Cthulhu, as I do.

1:28

This is really exciting. And if you go

1:31

to chaosium.com and use code TFC, you get

1:33

10% off that, John. Do

1:36

not jam your shameless ads in the

1:38

mind show. Keep

1:40

that garbage on time for Chaos. No, what

1:42

is this Arkham thing? It's a new source

1:44

book. They

1:47

used to have an old source book, H.P. Lovecraft's

1:49

Arkham, and I think this is like a fully

1:51

updated version. I'm reading about it as I'm getting

1:53

really excited about it, but it's just such a

1:55

beautiful cover. Arkham is such

1:57

a big part of the world of Lovecraft.

2:00

So yeah, let's

2:02

have another brand new source book, The

2:04

Miskatonic University. It's onic! And it's in

2:06

Massachusetts, which is great. I wanna run

2:08

more Massachusetts-based Call of Cthulhu adventures just

2:10

so I can do the accent. You

2:13

are also a known sucker for a

2:15

good cover. Oh. That's a good

2:17

cover. Sign you up for $200. I

2:19

eat with my eyes. Welcome

2:22

back, everybody. We have got a fantastic

2:24

fod lined up today. This is gonna

2:27

be a great fod. I'll believe it

2:29

when I see it. A spectacular fod.

2:31

I'm gonna need your help. Need some heavy lifting. This

2:34

is going to be packed

2:36

with exciting news, packed with

2:38

listener mail. And yeah,

2:40

it's just, you know, we have another role play episode.

2:43

So we don't really have, we are stupid. And it's

2:45

gonna be really fun to, you know,

2:47

talk to the niche about what's going on with them

2:50

and then, you know, kind of talk it all out.

2:52

And I'm gonna start off, off the

2:54

top here, even before the news, I'm

2:56

gonna start off by reading

2:59

the comments below, which you

3:01

know can get very dangerous. Below what?

3:03

Below any of the content that we

3:05

do. Oh wow. Particularly on

3:07

YouTube, because it's a little

3:09

less awful. No, it's wonderful.

3:12

YouTube is fantastic. And last week, if

3:14

you recall, on the fod, I threw

3:17

it out to you guys

3:19

to write back your thoughts on diversifying

3:21

damage versus high damage, you know, of

3:23

one type. And people responded. So I

3:25

just wanted to thank you to those

3:28

of you that responded, people

3:30

that, but it was kind of split.

3:33

They're like the people that liked the

3:35

versatility, like at Russell Charlton and at

3:37

Lariser, were like love damage

3:40

diversification. And then there

3:42

were people like Upside LY, who said, at

3:45

level 16 currently, part of what

3:47

makes Recall Knowledge in Combat a bit

3:49

underwhelming is that a lot of creatures

3:51

simply don't have anything you can exploit. Have

3:53

you seen a lot of this? Have you seen like, are

3:56

fewer than you think of the monsters that you look

3:58

at have weaknesses? No. But we're

4:00

in still low level play. So it's possible-

4:02

So they still do have some weak- Sixteenth

4:04

level monsters that just like, no, we don't

4:06

deal with that. But like right now, I

4:08

feel like almost every enemy you face at

4:10

low levels has some sort of resistance and

4:12

or weak. All right, that's good to know.

4:14

Yeah. And then Thorin Beta ends on a

4:16

lot of APs just don't have the diversity

4:18

of monster damage weakness built in and it's

4:20

been their experience that as a GM, they

4:22

have to create elements within the

4:25

monsters to make character ability shine. Like these

4:27

character abilities that exploit weaknesses, they're finding that

4:29

they're just not seeing it being used at

4:31

all. And so they have to put it

4:34

into the adventure. So- That's

4:36

what you get for caring about the

4:38

characters and the players. This

4:40

extra work. This sounds like a Thorin Bane

4:42

problem to me. No,

4:45

that's awesome. And also Upside

4:47

had another note. Studio Fod

4:49

every single day and

4:51

then quote, can't wait for tomorrow's. And

4:54

we're here, we're back. We are back in the studio

4:56

for the audio audience. We

4:59

are back in the studio. Man, three weeks in

5:01

a row, we are really spoiling them. Yeah, yeah.

5:03

We're setting them up for a real disappointing road

5:05

FOD. And how about next

5:07

week, we just do the FOD from our

5:09

telephone to each other. We'll record

5:11

that and put it up. A TikTok FOD. Just

5:14

holding up our phones. But this is great. You know,

5:16

like we kind of decided without really talking about it

5:18

too much. Like if we can pull this off, make

5:20

the drive into the city, get some other work done

5:23

and make a day out of it, it really

5:25

enhances the FOD. And I've noticed the view count

5:27

is up. Well, they can

5:29

see in the thumbnail, we're in the studio. And I think that

5:31

that's just like, hey, well, I'll watch those, I'll watch those guys.

5:33

What are they doing in there? Especially because, I

5:36

don't know, I don't know. We might have some changes coming

5:38

up at ZZ Gondorf says, Mike

5:41

for Francis, please. Francis,

5:43

Mike? Should we get a hot Mike back

5:45

there for you, buddy? What? As

5:48

usual, Francis's response is, what? He's

5:51

in porn. You're supposed to be

5:53

on video production here, Francis. Record

6:01

your pocket my top mood fight scenes this

6:03

ah no but a big serious they are.

6:05

Thank you to Francis and to Cj for

6:07

producing this because when we do five months

6:09

I'm just produce ness a normal not is

6:11

now but when we come and studio we

6:13

need the help and big thank you to

6:15

see the in France. In.

6:19

Studio fought aren't Let's get to

6:21

the news and honestly man news

6:23

and then Blister Mail That's my

6:25

list for today but there is

6:27

there is some big news. Ah

6:29

so she had to do a

6:31

lot but our last content schedule

6:33

that went out that this go

6:35

out. what the actual but the

6:37

question marks and all those I

6:39

was rough Seas or alone Valley

6:41

teaser Top Secret video as a

6:43

Top Secret video was really sick

6:45

say and we have that information

6:47

for you now ourselves. For those

6:49

of you are that have been eagerly

6:52

awaiting. So the we talked about in

6:54

the fall long time ago which was

6:56

that we came here in studio and

6:59

we taped a Marvel Multiverse Rpgs bass

7:01

all where are we We sat that

7:03

we played for hours and hours. The

7:05

up and.tape the whole thing and it

7:08

is now released today. It is releasing

7:10

today. Sites you ever listen to this

7:12

it is releasing today. About

7:15

noon, maybe that are going to one. it says

7:17

yeah, you're gonna want to check Marvel's. You Tube

7:20

channel not ours. Maybe you've heard of

7:22

them Marvel saps You've heard of mob

7:24

adults their You Tube Channel. Ah today

7:26

at some point in the afternoon Eastern

7:28

time around twelve pm or later you

7:30

should see the video is up and

7:33

able to our to be watched so

7:35

I hope you guys enjoy it. I

7:37

have twenty point three million subscribers, hopefully

7:39

a couple people watch, hopefully you've heard

7:41

of it. would be nice of a

7:44

couple people watched that would be awesome

7:46

seats and com. And as mentioned the

7:48

glass can. Never going hungry. We are in

7:50

love them and I was retained your life ah

7:52

the I wanted for like three minutes and then

7:55

write an extended comment about how you loved the

7:57

entire two and a half hour. Whatever it is.

8:00

All three hours we recorded this in December

8:02

before Christmas is completely original idea that I

8:04

had no ran by them and we just

8:07

did it and it was fucking great. It

8:09

was so fun, so wonderful and and I

8:11

really think that it was some special so

8:13

I hope you guys enjoy it's it's so

8:15

funny we recorded the whole thing we're like

8:17

wow that was really long and was like

8:20

a lot longer than we expected and we've

8:22

been gone back and forth with Marvel and

8:24

they've been lights are we we one request

8:26

them at it's of this in some edits

8:28

of that's and fluffy spaces. Like I look

8:30

at be original file and I look at the

8:32

added after a ton of edits and lot of

8:34

back and forth and it's like eight minutes shorter.

8:37

The. Are you know to me foot not

8:39

a lot is taught at all. No. Ah

8:41

so it's it's you get to see the

8:43

whole experience. So ah here we forgot to

8:45

check that out. Now I know the some

8:47

of you listening to this fodder right now

8:49

that's where my with them look at the

8:51

user named I major this listening who are

8:54

You're not going to go to you tube

8:56

You're not gonna go to Marvel site. You're

8:58

not gonna watch it because you don't have

9:00

type. You don't have a T V cu

9:02

I have a job of his. it's computer

9:04

or phone right. For you

9:06

couldn't possibly what's on. How are you listening

9:08

since you want to listen to it while

9:10

you are doing the disks? I get it,

9:12

I get it. And so that's why. I'm

9:14

happy to tell you right out the front,

9:16

right out of the gate here that we

9:18

will be releasing an audio only version. To.

9:21

Our subscribers to they go. So if you're

9:23

a subscriber on the Gc and subscription service

9:26

not patriotic release an Rpg know you have

9:28

to be moved over to the new subscription

9:30

service of you haven't done that by the

9:32

way get on it are move over the

9:34

new subscription service You'll be able to listen

9:36

to it. There are as guess it's own

9:38

podcasts I would have can be outright price

9:40

or an under friends of the pod. oh

9:42

my difference the Pod yeah I got a

9:44

kind is it it's it's own thing and

9:46

but day I will will get it up

9:48

there right away and you know who won

9:50

Enjoyed to see Oliver's it'll be there. However,

9:53

The. want to take a dip into the video version

9:55

we we do a lot of fun things to this

9:57

week as a lot more than like what we do

9:59

with game There's a lot of fun visuals and I

10:01

don't want to spoil it for you, but it's definitely worth

10:03

it. There's a lot of really fun stuff in it, so

10:06

I would recommend checking out the YouTube if you can. But

10:08

if not, audio will be out in a week.

10:11

So around the next fodder episode, that's when

10:13

the audio will hit the subscription service. So there

10:15

you go. Word. F-Y-I. Alright,

10:18

also, fun stuff this week, man.

10:20

Tomorrow, Thursday, do you

10:23

know about this? That I'm playing Tales of Kinzerra

10:25

with Abu? I sent you an email,

10:27

be like, hey, can you reach out to Abu and see

10:29

if he can hear about this? So yeah,

10:31

I've heard about this. Yes. Our

10:34

good buddy, McD, had this idea, came to

10:36

me and was like, you should... Tales of

10:38

Kinzerra, Zao, which is the

10:40

game that Abu Selim is instrumental in

10:42

the creation of, is a

10:45

voice-in, that game released as a

10:47

demo. And he's

10:49

like, you should play that on stream and have Abu on.

10:51

And I was like, alright, well, I'll reach

10:53

out to him. When he said it to me, I'm like, Abu's

10:55

got to be busy. He's got a lot going on. I

10:58

reached out to Abu and he was just like, hell

11:00

yeah. So it was an

11:02

awesome reaction and I'm very excited. And

11:04

we're doing that tomorrow. So tune in

11:06

to twitch.tv slash the glass cannon tomorrow,

11:08

11 a.m. Eastern, 8 o'clock

11:11

on the west coast in the morning, bright and

11:13

early. I'm going to try out

11:15

the game and Abu's going to join me and probably

11:18

watch me die a thousand times and make fun of

11:20

me. I know. It's so amazing. I'm really looking forward

11:22

to it. I was telling you right before

11:24

we went live on five, just fingers crossed that the

11:26

tech works. Man. But we'll see.

11:30

Either way, I'm playing that game and you're going to see

11:32

me play that game. So that's going

11:34

to be really, really fun. Are you streaming today? I

11:37

am. Baldur's Gate. I mean, I have

11:39

had some time as of late where

11:41

I've just been like sneaking downstairs, putting

11:43

a few hours in. I am way

11:45

deeper into the game than I was.

11:47

From week to week now, I'm like

11:49

progressing. It is a massive

11:52

fucking game. I mean, I

11:54

keep waiting for like a you are now

11:56

in Act two and I'm either not an

11:58

act two or actually happen. The and I

12:01

didn't like they didn't make a big deal

12:03

out of it's but I am shocked at

12:05

the scope of this game. I thought there

12:07

would be like a very clear transition like

12:09

okay you're now in the second part of

12:12

the game and I'm not. but I'm like

12:14

four maps and now and number of massive

12:16

maps. I once I explored the whole Under

12:18

dark by myself and then I just went

12:20

to discuss other sects of the Under.is just

12:23

it's an amazing amazing from illness, father's gates

12:25

or sorry I'm really know this is it.

12:27

Like a shot game of the year and

12:29

and deservedly. So. How long are

12:32

you going to stream the of users had

12:34

to guess which has a throw a guess

12:36

out there for how many well set it

12:38

of weeks you're going to stream of fly

12:40

think because I mean learning it a lot

12:42

in my free time. Ah and streaming two

12:44

hours a week? I think I could wrap

12:46

this up by the end of March. Roka.

12:49

Yeah because I want to move on to a new

12:51

game but I want to beat us. Okay so you

12:53

want to beat this on stream? This is going to

12:55

be some you're not gonna stop until you be I

12:57

think so. I think so. There's other games I want

13:00

to play. I want to play lies a P and

13:02

I know this at a cool stuff coming out but

13:04

like I have to beat us and I'm also doing

13:06

like every single class as well. not or the platinum

13:08

it's but like I'm not leaving any stones unturned so

13:10

that's adding time to it. I think of I just

13:13

mainland the main quest like it's interests in probably twenty

13:15

hours. but you know me, Know

13:18

cover every. Area of the map.

13:20

I have to do every I can

13:22

leave any dangling class but I'm haven't

13:24

a some good. I'm glad I'm glad.

13:26

Ah alright so let's ta that will

13:29

actually I'm sorry There's one more thing

13:31

which is also on Friday. Also on

13:33

Friday we got our live show that

13:35

were my glass cannon live Those were

13:38

doing Let's play Rambo. Ah we're playing

13:40

everyday. Heroes Rambo We're not even playing

13:42

Be Rambo cinematic adventure. Were playing part

13:44

of a prologue ah Jaune that is

13:47

just a one shot. or at

13:49

a comedy club in new york city on friday

13:51

night we've talked about this on fought for couple

13:53

weeks but if he visits and you're in the

13:55

new york area you get so gravity or it's

13:57

friday night eight o'clock at stand up new york

14:00

and should be amazing. It's me

14:02

and you and Skid and two

14:05

wonderful comedians, Kelis Hawkins and

14:07

what's your name? Forgot Natalie.

14:09

Yeah. Cuomo. So it's going

14:11

to be really, I

14:14

mean, we have no idea what to expect. I do.

14:16

I do. Well, yeah, you do. I

14:18

have, well, what you're not expecting is I

14:20

have been diving into the siren scape because

14:23

siren scape is like kind of part of

14:25

this too. And I've been like browsing through

14:27

the sound sets and preparing multiple

14:30

explosions. I mean, you better have tons of

14:32

explosions in this thing. Gun

14:34

fire. So much gunfire. Anyway,

14:36

I'm really looking forward to the, I'm excited to

14:39

go back to the upper best side. I lived

14:41

on the Upper West Side for years when I

14:43

moved to New York. I lived there. And so

14:45

I would walk by, that's where fancy snooty people

14:47

live constantly. I just

14:50

can't wait to like hang out afterwards in

14:53

those bars along Amsterdam. Yeah. But this,

14:55

this has been a lot of work

14:57

because not only am I learning the

14:59

every day, learning like the Rambo game in this

15:01

particular scenario, we've got to learn everyday heroes. Now

15:04

you've played a little bit of it. And

15:07

I haven't, but I've been playing a lot

15:09

of Baldur's Gate and I've obviously run some

15:11

5e. It's very, it's very close to 5e,

15:13

but like you got machine guns and stuff.

15:16

So it's a lot different how armor works,

15:18

how explosions and grenades were. So I'm like

15:20

learning the system while learning the prologue. But

15:22

what I will say is, can I just

15:24

jump in for a second and just say

15:26

how cool armor is in everyday heroes? Yeah.

15:28

It's really, really cool because, correct me if

15:30

I'm wrong, but the basic concept, I'm going to

15:32

nerd out on this for the second, for a

15:35

second. The basic concept is that like armor

15:37

is there to kind of like in a,

15:39

in a moment of like life and death,

15:41

it can like stop a bullet. Like that's

15:44

kind of what it does. And then once

15:46

it does that, it's like broken and it

15:48

doesn't work anymore. Like that's sort

15:50

of the basic overall concept because they

15:53

were like, we can't just have heroes

15:56

clad in like Kevlar that

15:58

have like D. to

16:00

every attack because it doesn't really like armor doesn't

16:02

really work that way in the modern world anyway

16:04

it was something like that as I was looking

16:06

through it and I was like oh this is

16:08

just really cool it basically at a moment when

16:10

you think because it's meant to be cinematic

16:13

it's when you're about to be by I'm looking

16:15

at my cheat sheet here when you're about to

16:17

be put to or below zero HP it saves

16:19

your life if the armor value is equal to

16:21

or higher than the penetration value the character can

16:24

make an armor saving throw and if

16:26

you're proficient you add your bonuses if the

16:28

armor is damaged you get disadvantage on that

16:30

save on a successful saving throw the character

16:32

takes no damage but if the penetration value

16:34

is higher than the armor value the armors

16:37

have no benefit so it could like a

16:39

rocket launcher doesn't matter how good your right

16:41

and if you save against it it's

16:43

now damaged yeah so you could do it

16:45

again but it's disadvantage and it just it's

16:48

great because those early hit points it doesn't

16:50

factor into the early hit point yeah the

16:52

early hit points you just get chunked down get

16:54

chunked down but then when you're at the end

16:57

can your armor save your life it's really great

16:59

as I've been diving more into

17:01

it and working with the creators of the

17:03

game on this project like you

17:05

can see their vision a little bit better

17:07

than when you're just reading the book and

17:09

their vision is to recreate movies

17:11

that you know it's really what it

17:14

is you're recreating cinematic moments in film

17:16

using a kind of d20

17:18

5e ish system so

17:20

anyway it's really great design and I can't wait to

17:22

play and this is I was gonna say the prologue

17:24

that we're gonna be running is absolutely

17:27

amazing it is so wonderfully written

17:29

and like super immersive my concern

17:31

is I was like how do I get this into

17:33

two hours and like how do we do this with

17:35

people we've never played with who have never picked up

17:37

a d20 but I mean that's gonna be the fun

17:39

for the audience is watching this all in full but

17:42

if I can pull this off this whole story in

17:44

two hours it's a phenomenal story and it makes me

17:46

want to really dive into more of

17:48

their products because they do this for all these

17:50

big like Escape from New York you guys did

17:52

they've got a bunch of total recall and they

17:55

have Kong Skull Island and a whole

17:57

bunch of other ones and it's because they're

18:00

Yes, they're crafting. I mean, this is why I

18:02

think it works for us, right? Because what we

18:04

do is so cinematic in nature, it feeds into

18:06

that machine really well. Oh my God, it's so

18:08

good. Like, I wanna replay this another time. This

18:10

could be like our warmup. Now, a lot of

18:12

people are asking them to be able to, if

18:14

they couldn't come, if you don't live in New

18:16

York, you can't come see this, can you see

18:18

it afterwards? We think, but we're not 100% sure.

18:20

We think, yeah. The last meeting that I had,

18:22

they have every intention of taping the show. If

18:25

it releases, you know, it's

18:28

all gonna depend on the quality and if

18:30

all the equipment works and everything, and it's

18:32

not a glass can of production. So we

18:34

have no control over any of that stuff,

18:37

but their intention is to at least put

18:39

it on YouTube, from what I understand. So

18:41

we'll see. We'll see.

18:43

It's exciting. And it's gonna happen right

18:45

in it. I mean,

18:48

as much as I'm looking forward to it, I'm also looking

18:50

forward to it being over, because it is a stressful thing,

18:52

and it's gonna be nice to have that off

18:55

the plate so I can just focus on tales

18:57

of CanXera. Hey, Francis, you coming out

19:00

to Rambo Friday night? You know it!

19:02

Let's go! You know it! That's

19:05

gonna be great. CJ's going to, Sydney's supposed to

19:07

be there unless she was just blowing smoke up

19:09

her ass. Well then I'm out. Well then I'm

19:11

out. It's gonna be awesome. All

19:14

right, let's talk about the

19:17

glass cannon podcast. All right. Glass

19:19

cannon, remember this guy? This

19:22

is still here. You have to be careful with that. Oh,

19:24

that's right. Not only the

19:26

prototype, it's the original. Oh, he's

19:28

upside down. There's the bird. Nine o'clock pinch. This

19:31

is my nine o'clock pinch! So like seconds

19:34

before this, I'm talking to our merch purveyor.

19:36

Because when I mentioned on the show, we

19:38

should make a t-shirt of that. No, seconds

19:40

before this fodder tape. This fodder, yeah. I'm

19:43

talking to our merch guy, and I'm like,

19:45

can we take this drawing and put it

19:47

on a t-shirt? Because now that I've heard

19:49

the fan response, it's enough for

19:51

me to be like, all right, let's go through this idea.

19:53

And long story short, it appears we can

19:55

pull this up. That exact drawing on

19:58

a t-shirt. Is it gonna have a... Eagle

20:00

lines on it? No, we're gonna have those removed

20:02

in Photoshop. So if I wanna make a high-res

20:04

scan of it, his art team is gonna take

20:06

out the line, reproduce on a

20:08

shirt, and I'm hoping to have it for the

20:10

Toronto show. Oh my God, do you think his

20:12

art team is gonna be like,

20:14

this is the dumbest project I have ever

20:17

worked on in my history. Well, his first

20:19

question was like, do you wanna have our

20:21

professionals take that horrible drawing and make something

20:23

nice of it? And I said,

20:25

no, no, no, the shittiness is what

20:27

makes it awesome. That is so shitty.

20:31

Anyway, fun app, lots

20:33

of role play as our mystery

20:35

continues. It really, it

20:39

reminded me of a Delta Green episode. And

20:41

I say that with, what's

20:43

the word I'm looking for? And I

20:45

say that as a compliment, because

20:48

it's the kind of episode where, if

20:50

I'm handling it as an Delta Green

20:53

session, and I look back, I think

20:56

at the start of that episode, you

20:58

had a bird map that told you

21:00

exactly where to go and when

21:02

to go to move the adventure forward.

21:05

And an hour and a

21:07

half later, you just got there

21:09

and that's all you did. Nothing

21:11

else happened. But

21:13

what happened is the

21:15

players kind of dug into

21:17

their characters a little bit. And that is fun to

21:19

do. And that's what you guys did a lot in

21:21

Delta Green. So I'd be sitting there, leg shaking, running

21:25

a Delta Green game going like, why? Are

21:28

they taking so long to just get from here

21:30

to here as you guys were just having a

21:32

beer at the bar and getting into your characters

21:34

and stuff like that. But sometimes you gotta take

21:37

a break, stop, pull back and realize why this

21:39

stuff is so important.

21:41

Things like Zephyr's scene, so

21:44

important to understanding,

21:48

or beginning to understand the character. Actually, that's

21:50

not the right term. Beginning to understand how

21:53

much you don't know about

21:55

the character. And then

21:57

similarly with Talitha speaking

21:59

with... Asta about her secret and

22:01

her concerns that she might lose control of

22:03

her own mind Yeah, very very cool stuff.

22:06

So there are a lot of really fun

22:08

role-playing elements Is there anything that jumped out

22:10

to you in particular? I don't want to

22:12

go too far into the scene because there's

22:14

these efforts in because there's actually some listener

22:17

mouth stuff about it That I want to

22:19

bring up. Okay, but what jumps

22:21

out to you in this episode where plot

22:24

wise not much moved forward at

22:26

all But so much happened. So so how do

22:28

you kind of look at that as a

22:30

GM? Yeah, you have to you have

22:32

to find that balance between letting letting

22:35

the game breathe and Moving things

22:37

along, you know, I think that

22:39

your natural inclination sometimes is like

22:41

come on You know

22:43

and I get that and it's really they really is

22:46

a fine line Sometimes you give the players too much

22:48

rope and they don't know what to do with it.

22:50

I just start to start getting up Yeah, but like

22:52

you you got to find that that fine line And

22:54

you know, I think just because we've worked together for

22:56

so long and we've done the live show in front

22:58

of a live audience That makes

23:00

a huge difference Like you can't have lulls you got

23:03

you got to make sure that like what you're doing

23:05

is important And I always say like if you're about to

23:07

speak and you think you're

23:09

you're leading a conversation somewhere Do you think

23:11

it's interesting? If not, don't do it and

23:14

it just seems to be naturally happening where

23:16

the characters are opening up Like I thought

23:18

that was really smart of Matthew to like

23:20

start digging into that night I

23:23

said you have secrets you want to get out there Don't

23:25

wait because you'll end up like lucky and you don't get

23:27

to get them out there. So yeah start getting them out

23:29

there So seeing the players pick up on that and start

23:32

doing it naturally It just it feels right and it's kind

23:34

of cool that he confided in the pasta and

23:36

not the people he's known for a couple months

23:38

Yeah, that that revealed something about the character as

23:40

well But you know, don't don't

23:42

get lost in like even checking out old

23:44

Henry buckets place There's stuff there the stuff

23:46

that's being layered in there about what is

23:49

going on that again may seem insignificant now

23:51

But will seem a lot more

23:53

significant later Henry buckets place is complete

23:56

nonsense And I will not

23:58

hear any argument to the contrary You

24:00

get so mad in your life. No matter

24:02

what you said, there's a pattern. Well, what's

24:04

the pattern? I said, what's the pattern? You

24:06

said, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because the pattern

24:08

itself isn't important. What's important is that there

24:11

was a method to the math. Great. And

24:13

we figured that out. Yeah. There's

24:15

nothing more to add to that. Nothing more to add to that.

24:17

Exactly. But you get to role play with Abilina a little bit.

24:19

You get to get here. No, no, no. I'm

24:22

not saying this scene was bad. You just said, like, whoa,

24:24

man, there was a lot going on in Harry Buckets' place

24:26

that you're going to look back on and

24:28

see. No, there isn't. It's over. Is

24:31

there? Why Henry Buckets? Why this,

24:33

like, shut-in hoarder? Shut-in

24:36

hoarder and something to do with his parents, too?

24:38

Yeah, something that was, like, generational. It's past day.

24:40

Why is that important? Like, there's stuff going on

24:42

there, man. Stuff's going on! You know what's nice

24:45

is, like, what was I going to say? Like,

24:48

you can see that Abilina and her team, after

24:50

Henry Buckets disappears, they go there and

24:53

they're like, ah, nothing. And you

24:55

guys know. Well, they're not investigators. They're not

24:57

investigators. And you see something. They're

24:59

like, natural 20, like Kate did on their-

25:01

School in the Alderwoman. Matthew

25:15

has this little scene, right? And he has it

25:17

in front of all of us as players. So

25:19

now we all know this secret, that he did

25:22

not mention to us, I mean, maybe he told

25:24

other people, he didn't tell me, like,

25:26

that his character had this secret past, the

25:28

secret history, the secret ancestry, all this stuff,

25:31

and that as a character, worried

25:33

about losing control. Reveals

25:35

this to another character. I think that that's

25:38

a big deal for Matthew, right? To, like,

25:40

bring this into the show, put it out

25:42

there, and get that sort of ball rolling

25:44

on that subplot, right? That narrative plot.

25:47

My question is, as another player

25:49

in that game, is

25:52

the ball in our court at all

25:54

to bring It

25:57

up again, to help him flesh that- story

25:59

out or since he didn't tell any of

26:01

our characters, Are we supposed to just sit

26:04

here and ignore it until See brings it

26:06

up? A to He chooses to bring it

26:08

up against the reason I ask is me

26:10

see want somebody to bring it up because

26:13

he doesn't want to costly be shoe horning

26:15

it in himself about his own character. On

26:17

what he said, I think know it's not

26:19

your place, do it like you gotta kind

26:22

of follow his cues. If he wanted somebody

26:24

else to bring it up I think he

26:26

would role play more like oh you having

26:28

conversation until he didn't. You notice he's

26:31

kind of pulling back as you're asking those

26:33

questions. It's if he is having that seem.

26:35

Would Brother Ramius now is prompting Brother Ramius

26:37

to had to start Price: ask for like

26:39

where you were in. A part of that

26:42

conversation has really been no other indication. ah

26:44

that this is going on. Ah is no

26:46

Ms Node. Is. No real reason for

26:48

you to do that. You'd be met a

26:50

gaming in that role play snouts. There was

26:53

a point when I first sat Abilene us

26:55

when Abilene is like and I see something

26:57

new to but think you'd prefer that. I

26:59

didn't say stances don't pay so I'm deciding

27:02

to kind of may be. Do.

27:04

What I want and go against Matthew cause I

27:06

think it's images in the story is now every

27:08

that the tables like what's that all about The

27:10

new could decide if you want to question him

27:12

or not. but the way math he's playing as

27:15

like wait until he gives you the to kind

27:17

of like a little thing that Matthew and I

27:19

can decide what we want to do with. That's

27:21

with to like either discussing of each other or

27:23

not like when I had Abilene A do that

27:25

I didn't. Ask Matthew to do that

27:28

but that's why. Tepid. super open ended so I

27:30

think you'd think I'd rather not say now you

27:32

know there's a secret out there and sept you

27:34

guys if you want to pry of you when

27:36

great That's what I'll do next steps. Go for

27:39

that. We get to go Screw underwent Absolutely must

27:41

said this semester. Know my mind on these Been

27:43

on my mind ever since pod. Separate

27:46

since the for i can be like oh

27:48

i know know she's weird. But them.

27:51

For detonated, it was a killer.

27:54

Are you trying to say we should killer in

27:56

or to the classic time? I don't know if

27:58

you know it's. The you know your

28:01

name is a question is like are are

28:03

are people thrown out a bone to a

28:05

to other you know to the other players

28:07

to get interest in their character on an

28:09

alley again gotta kind of read it I

28:11

guess. yeah but I feel like you know

28:13

it's something that needs to be explored. Catches

28:15

be mentioned once that thrown into Dorks for

28:17

Fifteen episode just Gonna die as a subplot.

28:19

you know I agree. I agree. I needed

28:21

will flash back. Needle

28:24

that speak in a flashback. Let's get

28:26

into listener mail. Let's do it. With

28:29

that, not. A real saw that there was

28:32

your voice. Moon.

28:46

Instance. That

28:48

you Nicholas of the low plan

28:50

or it but sourdough but a

28:52

listener mail today. I'm excited to

28:55

start with Brian from Japan. Ah

28:57

Roman Japan. Good way to start

28:59

a list or mail Question grabs

29:01

my attention because that right as

29:03

a gay first line. He

29:06

breaks cool smart. It's

29:08

online like others cause my attention on

29:10

now you have my tent and other.

29:12

The podcast is breaking for sponsors Anyways,

29:14

Has there been any thought? a discussion

29:16

about adding an enormous him. To.

29:18

Live shows In some of the shows the

29:20

go long their been comments about to happen

29:22

to turn his share her around and it

29:24

makes me worry for his health and hygiene.

29:27

Also having worked and alive house the bartenders

29:29

and wait staff might appreciate the swell at

29:31

the bar that comes during intermission. It. Was

29:33

an interesting questions have we ever

29:35

discussed during intermission. Of. The Life's

29:37

I don't think the show is long

29:39

enough to merit an intermission. two and

29:41

a half hours? Yeah, I just you

29:43

know that's longer than any act of

29:45

any broadway show besides. maybe. That.

29:49

One. In. Oklahoma City.

29:51

But how long as a Broadway august? Osage

29:53

County probably shows close to three hours. So

29:55

right near suits hour and a half break.

29:58

Our house this. Nobody goes to

30:00

and a half hours than and are so I think we

30:02

can only do to withstand the South Korea but there once.

30:06

You get a lot more done some the i

30:08

feel like to or in that you to be

30:10

a two hour show the would sometimes be two

30:12

and a half ago. some has we go on

30:14

lately room off we have been. we went long

30:16

a lot and twenty twenty three. I just feel

30:18

like it would ruin the flow. I think it

30:20

would be great. That's just as you

30:22

have a tiny tiny. Number. Think about

30:25

it you whenever you get to have

30:27

amid so cliff. Avril. Of

30:29

the mid. So much so it's hard

30:31

to come Every other corporate sake about

30:33

how many people in that audience also

30:35

are dying the p and are not

30:37

paying a test of the shop. Felix

30:39

her bladder miss a where It's an

30:41

interesting concept that wouldn't I wouldn't toss

30:43

it away without thinking about it as

30:45

ugly. Everybody back upon breath to repeat

30:47

success for cannabis be that of a

30:49

weird. The better yet, you bring up

30:52

the house music. It's anonymous. Forgot.

30:54

The house lights. Are. But he buys

30:56

a drink of December to a half an hour

30:58

of shop. It

31:01

exciting have to earn his own as a foot

31:03

off the stage. Now then again I do think

31:06

that they would go buy drinks who believe

31:08

will scold? Still up, get some drinks to get

31:10

a little more start earlier. Young.

31:12

To started with seven o'clock so that

31:14

the clocks stop Seven o'clock Seven O'clock.

31:18

Or we started seven given out that means

31:20

are shown up to the second we we

31:22

bring in. Eight thirty, come back and a

31:24

forty five show's over ten an hour and

31:26

fifty minutes ago. Now Honor of Segunda Consider

31:28

tell you what Brian from Japan as I

31:30

love the idea. Thanks right Nets good friend

31:32

of the show Jan with to N. O

31:36

J O J! and Ah I love

31:38

that we are kicking off the new

31:40

year with more hours! Of video game

31:43

streaming, you're it. It's a great time

31:45

to interact with you all enemies. I'm

31:47

curious though as the switch from gaming

31:49

in the employee lounge to the main

31:51

twitch channel. Can you said any more

31:53

light on that? Are

31:55

any light at all? I guess. Yeah, well.

31:57

one of the things we're doing this year

31:59

is. You know, pushing a lot of

32:01

our table top content or pre recorded tabletop

32:03

content to you to have we seen faster

32:05

growth on that channel and that's when the

32:08

main reasons are the main reason the gay

32:10

workers for me or there and so this

32:12

year you know you can expect and the

32:14

trying to be on you tube is wealth

32:16

but we want to make sure that we

32:18

maintain a strong twitch presence and and kind

32:20

of get back to using twitch for what

32:22

it's meant for which is my interaction and

32:25

so right out of the gate before able

32:27

to watch some some other projects later this

32:29

year on twitch. We thought like this is

32:31

cheap should go and buy you haven't You

32:33

and I play video games and then this

32:36

week alone already doing this experiment by having

32:38

abu come on your I think you're gonna

32:40

see a lot more that is well and

32:42

you know it Colonel leaves the employee lounge

32:44

the place for experimentation lets us and a

32:47

fuck around with games that might not be

32:49

ready for primetime of let us do different

32:51

things that are outside of our normal per

32:53

view would degenerate dungeons so that still are

32:56

kind of experimental space for stuff that can

32:58

eventually come to to. It's a dad spent

33:00

a lot more fun lied stuff on Twitch

33:02

over the years he I think besides just

33:05

video game I don't think I know there

33:07

was a time where a decision was made

33:09

to move to keep Twitch just tabletop so

33:11

that it wasn't video gaming because video he

33:14

means that the main thing that we do

33:16

by a long shot. It's also not for

33:18

not particularly good at it. See that Traditional

33:20

started with me playing dark Souls ah and

33:23

you coming over with just a microphone on

33:25

the table. ah no video besides dark Souls

33:27

for eleven people that was that are the

33:29

origin. Of our main switch to yep

33:31

that that's how it started. Ah, at

33:33

That's why we still get financial updates

33:35

for that channel to a email address

33:38

that week from scratch. a. Professor

33:41

at it but it was open so

33:43

so long ago. guess the arm but

33:45

yeah we decided it's cheap that to

33:48

tabletop and keep it a focus tabletop

33:50

child and and this employee lounge would

33:52

be fuck around and that includes video

33:55

games well with the big transitions and

33:57

answer your question is let's focus on

33:59

to. Do they live experience as

34:01

opposed to Twitch as a pre recorded

34:03

area. And who cares if it's tabletop?

34:05

are not labs. Great video games. great

34:08

even some other ideas and concepts. A

34:10

choice talking about. The we're hoping will

34:12

come later this year. It's things that

34:14

lot where live interaction is. Seats are

34:16

so that we can hang out with

34:18

the chap. So that's really that. The

34:20

main impetus behind putting video games back

34:23

on is just because we can interact

34:25

with you guys life. And we missed

34:27

it. Yeah, I'd like to do is

34:29

another strange. Jails Marathon. Yes,

34:32

I want to do the every my yeah

34:34

it's kind of. Settle on a

34:36

box is one being like we said

34:38

we talked about or at the like Ah

34:40

and to it's always an amazing so

34:42

I always wonderful. Yes ah I now

34:44

you're adding Kate into the make soil. The

34:47

has ever done a marathon astringents, marathon

34:49

lived So I mean and be great It

34:51

would be fantastic. So ah to. Keep

34:54

an eye out for that coming down.

34:56

other the coming up the horizon soon

34:58

or avast soon Nine always get us

35:00

in a jam with that word mean

35:02

they're like sir and what is the

35:05

next week sorry has come up the

35:07

horizon to know man to weird the

35:09

shows as the soloists Jason from Seattle

35:11

Sam i'm not just any Jason from

35:13

Seattle Trek Vi really enjoying the campaign

35:16

so far and I can't wait to

35:18

see how the group reacts to some

35:20

of the weird stuff I wrote in

35:22

book to watch. Say sincerely. From Seattle

35:24

Rights and so listen or mail to To

35:27

Kill It on an honor. I just watched

35:29

the episode that introduces Asta and I was

35:31

wondering if there was any discussion of bringing

35:33

Lucky back as a spirit using the ghost

35:36

archetypes in the Book of the Dead. I

35:38

think it would fit seems in the adventure

35:40

path, but I can also see how that

35:42

kind of thing isn't for every group. Keep

35:45

up the good work. Saghir.

35:47

It's a family son of a gun. I don't

35:49

know a guy I really appreciated. We have sent

35:51

another question i just a couple weeks ago that

35:54

weren't directly about this situation but s in general

35:56

about bring our characters back and I think we

35:58

even mentioned in passing. I

36:00

think I go to the dad has a

36:02

goes to answer though so yeah that that

36:04

is really cool. I think it's a really

36:07

interesting idea. I know, true it's not gonna

36:09

discuss it at all because it's possible spoiler.

36:11

Had. An Asus that I been listen. That.

36:14

It exists. It's cool to know it's

36:16

it's It's like anything else. like finding.

36:19

The. Right balance between like letting the

36:21

gravitas of death happen and ruining that

36:23

by being like next week their backs

36:26

you know. But maybe I could come

36:28

back me up. I feel like that

36:30

that is an interesting I feel. it's

36:33

a really interesting idea in this particular

36:35

situation because of how early Lucky went

36:37

out. Yeah it really feels like a

36:40

character were so much is left on

36:42

done and on said the Us. that

36:44

a could bet that the Carter could

36:46

benefit from a reappearance at some point.

36:49

I mean we taught in this episode

36:51

about the potential that it is lucky

36:53

that left of the bird yet else

36:55

and it's a really cool concept like

36:57

why not? why couldn't it be ah

36:59

messes see the cat yes he loves

37:02

mall in birds and me whilst ah

37:04

why not get send this message that

37:06

leads you to a place you could

37:08

not get on your own because you

37:10

couldn't decipher these other clues, celts and

37:12

way to new concept Jason thank you

37:14

for writing and and though he he

37:16

really appreciate it's never say never never

37:18

say. Never. Ah alright let's

37:20

move on to prison from Topeka And actually

37:23

I think I'm going to combine their see

37:25

others going on because. It's topic

37:27

as his it up believe it's topic

37:29

I suspect a house for this person

37:31

from topic our rights in. Ah after

37:34

listening to the Fahd about try getting

37:36

back into the groove it's still happening.

37:38

It's nuts on the table. sadder as

37:40

Break from Giants laughs I really love

37:42

listening to the scenes that he would

37:44

build my have begun writing them for

37:47

my home games to immerse players. What

37:49

I mainly curious others how Troy tix

37:51

the moms to present these characters scenes

37:53

and how he decides what to reveal

37:55

from a characters backstory. so obviously we

37:58

have you know the situation comes up

38:00

in this episode. Also, Matt

38:02

M. writes in, same sort of

38:04

question this week, he

38:07

says, I'm GME a campaign that's been going on for

38:09

a few years, we actually have one session a month,

38:11

and then do some role playing. I

38:14

do vignettes individually with players over

38:16

discord in between. So I've

38:18

started asking the players, but I want to bring this

38:20

to the main group, so I've started asking players to

38:22

write vignettes that we can act out of the table,

38:25

a la Glass Cannon. So Troy, how

38:27

do you get your players to write these? And how do

38:29

you find the right time to bring them in?

38:31

And then for Joe, how do you go

38:33

about writing them? And for both, what is

38:35

the collaboration process like? Matt from DC. So

38:38

yeah, Matt, thank you for writing in. And

38:40

also, it was the other

38:42

one, Tristan from Topka. Thank you for

38:45

writing in similar questions. But yeah, it

38:47

comes up this week because we have

38:49

a really juicy backstory scene this week.

38:52

Yeah, this is something that has really

38:54

evolved over time that began with our

38:56

pre GCP, pre GCN, J region campaign.

38:59

As I started to feel more comfortable with GMing, because that

39:01

was the first time I ever GMed, I, you

39:04

know, put on book three or so I started

39:07

introducing these backstories where I really

39:09

wouldn't, I wouldn't talk to you guys too much,

39:11

I would just like write these scenes and, and

39:14

play them out in a session. And

39:16

that kind of carried over to giant slayer once

39:18

I felt comfortable with where we're at bringing that

39:20

in. And sometimes I would consult with you guys,

39:23

sometimes I wouldn't, I would just start writing these

39:25

things and planting them in and then be like,

39:27

all right, well, now you're going to deal with

39:29

this fact about your character. And that doesn't work

39:31

for every table. You know, I'm very lucky

39:34

to have players that just trust me to kind of run with

39:36

it. But as we

39:39

develop more, more products and more

39:41

shows, it was important to

39:43

me to get feedback from you guys as

39:45

well, because I wanted you to really drive

39:47

the narrative of your character. And then allow

39:49

me to put the roadblocks in and the

39:51

obstacles that could change what your original concept

39:53

was to make it more cinematic. So I

39:55

would have you guys just either write out

39:57

shit or just send ideas that I would

39:59

write. And either way, I then reframe

40:01

them. I reframe them based around my idea

40:03

of the narrative and also where I want

40:05

to take the story. And then

40:07

I'll say it aloud to see what's going to

40:09

sound good on radio. And then when

40:11

we do it, I try to not look at it too much so

40:14

that we're really off the cuff. But we have an idea, kind of

40:16

like a wrestling match. You have an idea of what the outcome is.

40:19

We're not 100% sure how you're going to get there. And

40:21

that's just the way it's developed over time.

40:24

It's like, you write something and then I'll

40:26

rework it for the show. And

40:29

speaking from my chair, I tend

40:31

to, I kind of

40:33

have to wait. And sometimes you ask for them

40:35

for the scenes and sometimes you

40:37

just ask for any scene. Sometimes you

40:40

ask for a scene that does this. And

40:42

in either case, I

40:46

generally can't, like I have that writer's block thing

40:48

where like, I can't write a scene unless like

40:50

I have a very clear inspiration for what the

40:52

scene is. Like if I'm just forced to write

40:55

a scene, I can never really get

40:57

it done. And so sometimes I'll go long periods

40:59

without them. But when I do,

41:01

when I have written them in the past,

41:03

it's been my experience that you don't really

41:05

change much at all. It's like, you

41:07

know, these small little things. You're a very good writer. But,

41:09

thank you. Other people, still a lot. But

41:14

it's mostly, I mean, let's take Kate's scene

41:16

for example, so talk me through how this developed.

41:18

Did you go to her and say I'd

41:20

like a scene? No, you went to all

41:22

of us and said, hey, get me

41:24

some stuff in the coming weeks. And I still didn't

41:26

get it to you for more than a month because

41:28

I just didn't have the idea. Kate

41:33

got this scene to you when? Ballpark.

41:35

Well, you know, going back like pre-Gatewalkers,

41:37

I was like, I want everybody to

41:39

give me your, a pre-show moment

41:41

that is gonna be like episode one. And

41:43

same thing we did for Androids and Aliens.

41:45

And I reworked those to make them, you

41:47

know, fit Gatewalkers and whatnot. And

41:50

We did that. But Then like right before the holidays,

41:52

I was like back on tour next year and Gatewalkers

41:55

were now like in the thick of it. If You

41:57

guys wanna do that work, write those scenes and I'll

41:59

work on that. Then and then I just gonna leave it out

42:01

there. And. Kate sent me this. she's like I've

42:03

gotta I've got an idea for Seen Cells and a

42:05

reworked it a little bit with her and know where

42:07

was it when she gave it to. Where.

42:10

Was it the I liked it was which

42:12

came to my house is she doesn't I'm

42:14

saying like she had the where was it

42:16

in terms of ah you know what was

42:18

built. Was it that the scene was her

42:20

and or boy that she likes and that

42:23

you know the interaction and him sort of.

42:26

Displaying. Some sort of racist

42:28

kind of ideology that's gonna pass on

42:30

from his parents and this kind of

42:33

breaking her heart like to. Very heartbreaking

42:35

scene was that framework all their when

42:37

teeth senators and looking renowned and my

42:39

so October twenty six I reset your

42:41

taxes like disorders or was it October

42:43

twenty or twenty six and of only

42:45

received one. Size is a rolling

42:47

task if you ever want to work with me as

42:49

in flashbacks, let me know. We

42:52

didn't indian episode one again walkers but down

42:54

to do more. Great great way to get

42:56

people's stories out there and introduce secrets and

42:58

and feces from your past. Ah I'm Sidney,

43:01

we should keep popping on something for a

43:03

new character. Suits. And

43:05

then a month to the day later,

43:07

Caped sent me. A

43:10

while so you've had that since. November.

43:12

Yeah, and we recorded that. Was.

43:15

That recorded in December I guess. Or of course yeah, we

43:17

see just how to fly a couple weeks of for? Yep.

43:19

And like I had at their. While we

43:21

did like to recordings I think and I just

43:23

didn't have the right place to introduce, it's I

43:25

why I thought it one to come at the

43:28

beginning of an episode and it didn't work for

43:30

the beginnings of the last few episodes. but this

43:32

one I was like oh this is perfect, you're

43:34

in the room He didn't notice and as like

43:36

morale so notice something out the window and we

43:39

just kind of went into it. but I'd been

43:41

sitting on the for a few weeks. scissors like

43:43

I might have cried rope reading this so beware

43:45

through sensitive. So sad. But that basic framework was

43:47

all there when she sent it to you. So

43:49

this is like all from. Kate this idea

43:52

of her car to that's very cool. Yes

43:54

I am. I did send something mower so

43:56

easy to join. Want to say he did

43:58

I do this exactly. Yeah, we did. We'll just

44:00

film. I

44:02

deleted it without reading it. That's very sad and very important.

44:07

Oh, man. Amazing. Yeah,

44:10

so that to me, and then,

44:12

you know, that combination of Zephyr

44:14

getting that scene out there, I, it definitely

44:17

kicked me, you know, in the ass to like get some

44:19

out there, because I loved it so much. Like, this is

44:21

so great. And I feel like it's important for

44:23

all of us to do it. Yeah, it's hard, because it's like

44:26

you're the character we probably need to know least about.

44:29

We need to know about these other characters. You're

44:32

very good at like bringing out character discoveries

44:34

and role play naturally. I'm not saying that

44:36

other people aren't, but like, that's your bread

44:38

and butter. You just, you kind of see

44:40

that. And that's probably from running a lot

44:42

of Delta Green. You're just

44:45

doing it naturally. We need to hear from other people. So

44:47

that's like when Zephyr, I was like, let's go. Let's

44:49

get a Zephyr story out there. We're aching for it.

44:52

We need an author. It's good to see Matthew bring

44:54

it up naturally. Yeah. But

44:56

I'd still love to see another Chaletha scene. There's a lot

44:58

of secrets there. And then Buggles too, you know, because I

45:00

want to see that. It's not to say we don't need

45:03

a Raimis, but we

45:05

know Raimis right now. We feel pretty good about him. Oh,

45:08

you don't know Raimis. The old Stoner Uncle. Oh,

45:10

there's a lot to learn there, buddy. You

45:13

don't become a Stoner Uncle overnight. That's true.

45:15

A lot of complications that go into it.

45:19

Well, that's all I have for this one. I

45:21

think that next week we're going to hopefully, maybe

45:23

I believe we're going to talk a little

45:26

bit about how important this character

45:28

development stuff is. And hopefully

45:30

everybody kind of gets more into

45:32

the groove of getting it out there because it

45:35

just raises the stakes for all the characters. And

45:37

when you do that, it makes

45:40

interactions between them more clear

45:43

and makes the improv tighter.

45:45

But then it also makes

45:48

the combats more important. It

45:51

gives them higher stakes when you care more

45:53

about the characters and how you're going to

45:55

care about them if you don't know anything

45:57

about them. So that's why these little, these

45:59

elements are important. And yeah, I agree. I'd

46:01

love to hear more from Bugles and hear

46:03

more from Asta like what's strange and interesting

46:05

characters like what is going on in their

46:07

past So hopefully we can get some of

46:09

those scenes into let us know in the

46:11

comments if you'd like to see more scenes

46:13

from Bugles and Asta and We'll

46:15

I mean we'll put skid down in front of the

46:17

computer and make him read these comments Maybe that'll give

46:19

him the kick in the ass he needs to get

46:21

you to you know, he's gonna write something Phenomenal

46:24

so yeah, I'd love to see that happen. That's

46:26

gonna wrap it up for me, buddy. That's it.

46:28

I'm done I'm

46:31

glad we're doing this. I'm glad we're doing it

46:33

too. It's great being in studio. We're also getting

46:35

other work done Yeah, which is great. It's very

46:37

productive and and it's great to hang out with

46:39

CJ and Francis once again Thank you CJ Francis

46:41

on the production end of things And

46:44

thank you all for watching and for listening and for

46:46

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46:48

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