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Say back, Tackle her. Ears
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to refine his crew and
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stop right anti church or.
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I'm captain. My
1:12
Captain Janeway. Welcome
1:18
to the Greatest Generation! It's a Star
1:20
Trek podcast by a couple of guys.
1:22
Were just a little bit embarrassed about having
1:24
Star Trek. I guess I'm Ben Harrison.
1:26
I'm Adam. Frantically I doing it. Adam.
1:29
Hat. This
1:32
is like the first hot week we've
1:34
had melee and a long time it's
1:36
been. It's been one of those years
1:38
Every year. no matter what the weather
1:40
does, they tell us it's going to
1:42
be bad for fire season this year
1:44
because it's were. Lots. Of
1:46
growth. So there will be lots of
1:48
fires. Course, when it's not where they're
1:50
like, oh, everything's going to be very
1:52
dry, so lots of fires. Either way,
1:55
lots of fires. in that
1:57
thinking about that at all until it happens
2:01
It's not changing my fire setting plans for the
2:03
year. I'll tell you that much. Good.
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Good. Good.
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Your confession heard here first on The
2:10
Greatest Generation. No one's going to either
2:13
see or hear this confession.
2:15
How about you, Ben? Nice
2:18
to be back in shorts. Mm-hmm.
2:22
Enjoying that aspect of it. Feels
2:25
good. Yeah. Little
2:27
baby shorts for Daraon. That's fun.
2:29
A boy. Oh, my
2:31
God. What is that about?
2:34
Let me ask you a question. They're
2:37
all elastic bands at
2:39
this point, right? Yeah. At what age do
2:42
you get fitted shorts or pants? You probably
2:44
don't do that until you're 10, right? I
2:47
got to say, less and
2:50
less do I even see
2:52
fitted shorts for grown boys
2:54
like myself available. All my
2:56
favorite brands are moving to
2:58
a drawstring format on
3:00
their shorts. You said it, and that
3:02
is great comfort. Yeah. Do you
3:04
like that a lot? I think that that's a pandemic relic.
3:08
Everybody was getting into soft pants
3:11
over the last four years, and
3:13
I think the manufacturers are finally
3:15
catching up. My wife dunks
3:17
on me all the time because I think
3:20
the first time I ever wore denim with a
3:22
little bit of stretch in it, I was just
3:24
going on and on about how comfortable it was.
3:27
She's like, you fucking dudes.
3:32
Twenty years behind the curve on
3:34
comfy jeans. Enjoy
3:37
it. I hope you do,
3:39
but just know this is a ladies'
3:41
invention first. It was a ladies' invention
3:43
first. I saw a video
3:47
by a lady. I think she was maybe
3:49
an electrician. She did
3:52
something where she desired a certain type
3:54
of performance out of her jeans And
3:57
had to buy men's jeans because the stretch
3:59
... I. Can rebirth
4:01
of his fire electricity. But she worked
4:03
with some kind of the hazardous situation
4:05
where the stretch was a liability and
4:08
so she had to buy if she
4:10
was buying genes yeah, by men's deeds
4:12
because they just don't even make women
4:14
scenes without stretch in the many more
4:17
ads he was complaining about That. Did.
4:19
Sea Tac Anything about how say button
4:22
and zip the opposite way. Oh
4:24
because I told you the story right
4:26
where I've were women's jeans and a
4:28
high school without knowing it because they
4:31
were just in the in the sale
4:33
rak their of the men's section I
4:35
did know him better I was like
4:37
wow we're genes that is a wire
4:39
the buttoning and zipping on the wrong
4:41
side and also why does it make
4:43
my ass with completely debris assess assess
4:45
as i couldn't fill of up the
4:48
but in their health i think says
4:50
the. Story. Behind that is
4:52
that like fancy ladies used to
4:54
be dressed by. Other people
4:56
so those britain were were reversed so that
4:58
they can be done. From.
5:01
The yeah I've got a couple
5:03
of garments that were reverse button
5:05
and sir. I. Feel like
5:07
many things women are like. much more
5:09
comfortable going and getting something out of
5:11
the men sexson. In. General.
5:14
Than. Men are, You know our emasculated
5:16
deserve a very fragile little of the
5:18
Houses of cards. and we can't just
5:21
dip a toe and assists in the
5:23
lady sex. And I would love to
5:25
buy clothing that when either direction because
5:27
it's it's supposed to be good for
5:30
your brains when you brush with the
5:32
other hand that's the non dominant hand.
5:35
When you button or zip when
5:38
you jackets European style. these things
5:40
are all good for your brains.
5:42
They're good for neuro. As to
5:45
city and they may well have. Been.
5:47
A Q if anybody had been looking.
5:50
For. Who in fact
5:52
was playing the part of the
5:54
captain in today's episode say that
5:56
zipper on your uniform is the
5:58
oriented the incorrect. Way. About
6:02
that. You. Just pivoted us
6:04
into so did new heights. I did
6:06
it seamlessly. Snow.
6:08
Seems no edits in this episode.
6:10
Van it's did you call it
6:13
the penultimate episode you sure could
6:15
have the finale. Of of
6:17
Star Trek Voyager. It's Season Seven episode
6:19
twenty four. Renaissance. Man,
6:21
reverse course unless he said something. A
6:23
little nigger in your fetuses. I
6:28
was really worried about this
6:30
episodes from this opening shot.
6:32
So me why says because
6:34
doctors. Piping. Opera
6:37
into the Delta Flyer and singing at
6:39
the top of his lungs doesn't usually
6:41
bode well for what By episodes gonna
6:43
be like you know? I.
6:45
Saw it's may be. Captain
6:48
Janeway had a death wish because not only
6:50
is he going to a conference. Says
6:52
haven't duster mart. Be. The uber
6:55
driver ssssss. I didn't think there
6:57
was a good look at all
6:59
and when see his. Woken.
7:02
Up by Dr. Mark singing. She's.
7:04
Only been asleep for fifteen minutes to say here
7:06
that right, That's what I
7:08
wrote down as well as don't know
7:11
Dr. Mark. I don't know how. You.
7:14
Got such a nice Janeway. In
7:17
this scene a a gene way that sputtered.
7:19
But. Also he jane wait, who should
7:21
just shut off your fucking our emitter.
7:25
To get some goddamn sleep. At.
7:27
This point she said she was unbelievably
7:29
forgiving. A I will say ah them
7:32
on boys will need to prove do
7:34
you think secret? hit a button on
7:36
the hello emitter and just like turn
7:38
off his head. Like
7:40
the head just disappears at the next. with
7:44
it be followed neck like you
7:46
to see the inside of the
7:48
of the textures on the on
7:51
the pali gun frame of his
7:53
body that would be less horrifying
7:55
then of success for us it's
7:58
been like gasping gore Yuck. Yeah.
8:02
Why even go to a medical
8:05
symposium? I don't know, man. Janeway?
8:08
It doesn't seem like something she'd be into,
8:10
but they are talking
8:13
about how they've enjoyed each other's
8:15
company a little bit, and then
8:17
they get a little microbanger, and
8:19
it's a subspace, Eddie, and
8:22
it's going to be an adventure from here on
8:24
in, let's just say. The moments
8:26
before the theme are like
8:29
the bangers get dropped and Dr.
8:31
Mark trying to comfort Janeway with
8:34
his confidence. Is
8:36
there anything less confidence-inspiring
8:40
than Dr. Mark at the controls of
8:42
the Delta Flyer saying, just stand back,
8:44
I got this? A
8:47
man not known for his piloting skills
8:49
at all, right? He was bragging
8:52
about how he's also writing a paper in his
8:54
head during. You
8:56
know how he can turn himself into an emergency
8:59
command hologram? He should turn himself
9:01
into an emergency pilot hologram, and
9:04
then he skins himself in
9:06
the white drive uniform that
9:08
we saw earlier this season. How
9:11
much would that rule? Oh, yeah,
9:13
the EPH, the F, if you will.
9:15
Yeah. Janeway's got to turn on
9:17
Do Not Disturb, though, with this driver.
9:20
She really does. So when we come
9:22
back from theme, we are with the
9:24
Voyager, BLT and Ensign
9:27
Voric are working on
9:29
some engineering problem. And I put
9:32
a lot of money on this
9:34
being the episode in which Voric
9:36
dies. I was
9:38
like, well, we're wrapping up the last
9:41
season. We're saying goodbye to a lot
9:43
of characters that have had a few
9:45
episodes, but not many. I
9:47
love that bet. This guy's doomed in
9:49
this episode, right? It
9:51
sure seems that way. You get a
9:53
pretty tight close up frame on
9:55
him and BLT, and I got
9:57
to ask, is he cutting his
10:00
bangs? Seems
10:02
like something is a little
10:04
wavy. Cutting across like he
10:06
might be depressed or something.
10:08
We do not discuss
10:11
it. Yeah, or he held
10:13
a single piece of high-quality toilet
10:17
paper up to his head as a guide when he
10:20
cut his bangs. That's a great
10:22
call back. I
10:26
have not stopped thinking about that since you told
10:28
me about it. I still haven't seen this toilet
10:30
paper in the wild, but I'm fascinated. Oh, you
10:32
got to come over and take a great big
10:34
shit over here. You can try it out. I
10:36
would love nothing less. Ben, back when
10:39
I used to work in giant airplane
10:41
company, lockout-tagout was
10:43
a huge deal because
10:46
there are a million things on an aircraft
10:48
that can kill you if you got someone
10:50
on the flight deck hitting switches and someone
10:53
on the plane somewhere doing work. Why
10:55
is that not a thing in the
10:58
24th century? Well, a lot of safety
11:00
procedures have been done away with over
11:02
the years. Yeah,
11:06
sure are. Maybe they're doing
11:08
their own safety audits, a voyager.
11:10
Yeah, we got this. Uh-huh. Don't
11:12
worry about it. BLT
11:14
gets called to the shuttle bay
11:17
where Tiki-Tom Paris wants to have
11:19
a romantic lunch with wifey.
11:21
And this might be the
11:24
most charmed BLT has ever
11:27
seen in his presence.
11:29
I feel the same way. This
11:31
Roxanne Dawson take feels
11:33
really unique. This is so
11:35
sweet, but
11:38
I can't. She really looks like she loves
11:40
him in this scene in
11:42
a way that I don't know that
11:44
I've ever recognized before in either BLT
11:46
or anyone I've been close to in
11:49
my life. Like
11:53
the affection radiating off of her.
11:56
God, what's that like? It's
12:00
also interesting because I think
12:02
we've seen the grand romantic gesture go
12:04
the other way like he has Made
12:07
him a TV so that they can
12:09
share his second favorite thing together But
12:13
it doesn't seem like he always Often
12:16
goes out of his way to be like super
12:18
sweet like this. I mean You
12:21
know there is the fact
12:23
that the chicken looks super fucking
12:26
rancid, you know undercutting this somewhat
12:28
But it's a nice gesture that he's
12:30
doing like hey come take a break from work We'll have
12:32
a little romantic lunch You know a couple
12:34
of things about how Paris is looking
12:36
in this scene one If
12:39
your bee dunks how psyched are you to show
12:42
up for your shoot day and and see? That
12:45
your costume is Hawaiian shirt Like
12:48
what a great thing and to you
12:51
should be able to buy the action
12:53
figure of Tom Paris wearing the Hawaiian
12:55
shirt He looks fucking great You
12:57
know some people look kind of like just
12:59
a little bit off wearing a Hawaiian
13:01
shirt like not quite right like Kind
13:03
of dopey dad and Hawaii on vacation
13:05
or whatever like Paris Really
13:07
wears this shirt and I think it matters
13:09
that it's reddish. It looks good on him.
13:11
Yeah, it's a command red Yeah
13:14
base to the to the shirt
13:16
that matters Yeah as a person
13:18
who wears lots of aloha
13:20
shirts and looks dumpy in them I
13:23
really admired how he looked at this. Yeah. Yeah,
13:25
he looks great. He is
13:28
motivated To get
13:30
some alone time with BLT in this
13:32
scene. It's it's not just a kind
13:34
gesture. It's a seduction technique because
13:37
that baby coming and They're
13:40
not gonna be alone for too much
13:42
longer And at the end
13:44
of the scene she promises this won't be the
13:46
last time that they're alone and also like maybe
13:49
Settle even when the baby comes like they're they're
13:51
gonna make the time for each other This
13:54
is one of those like a if you want to
13:56
induce labor. This is one of the things that's supposed
13:59
to help also Oh
14:01
yeah? Fried chicken and potato salad? Well,
14:04
spicy food and spicy
14:06
interpersonal actions. Oh jeez.
14:10
Extra paprika, he says. Just the way
14:12
you like it. I did not know
14:14
that. Yeah. These are
14:16
the things you learn. Anyways, up
14:18
on the bridge, we got a
14:20
line for a guy that has
14:22
been in a million episodes of
14:24
Voyager as a background performer. And
14:27
I remembered him typically to be
14:29
wearing yellow, but Tarek Ergen got
14:32
an upgrade to his uniform and an
14:34
upgrade to his role on the show.
14:37
He's sitting there in Tom Parris' seat saying
14:40
lines. There's some kind of pulse being directed
14:42
at our transceiver array. Am I making any
14:44
sense here? Finally. He's got to be so
14:46
psyched until he reads the script and he's
14:48
like, wait, I'm like taking orders from Harry
14:51
Kim. You
14:53
know, I can go back to being a background actor. I
14:56
see what you're trying to do here. It's nice. But
15:00
it kind of destroys the character I built in
15:02
my head for this guy. So
15:06
they get a message from Janeway and
15:09
she's broadcasting it in an unusual
15:11
way. She's like using the deflector
15:13
dish on the Delta Fire
15:15
to do this. It
15:17
just blows away half of the saucer of
15:19
Voyager. Mistakes
15:24
were made. Yeah. She
15:27
accidentally pushed the shoot
15:29
board cue button and not the broadcast
15:31
distress signal button. They're right next to
15:33
each other. They shouldn't be right next
15:35
to each other. There should be a
15:37
little like plastic cover over the one
15:39
button. Absolutely. Anyways, the
15:42
transmission is a little blurry,
15:44
which maybe in retrospect is
15:46
intentional. But she's like, yeah, we
15:48
got into a bit of a scrape.
15:50
We're all right, but ship's a little
15:52
torn up and I need to speak to
15:54
Chakotay at the moment I get back on
15:56
board. What the fuck is Harry
15:58
Kim to you, Jane? way you're fucking
16:00
secretary why don't you ask him yourself
16:03
that's what I was thinking this scene
16:05
yeah where is he's not in there
16:08
just off doing something else wouldn't
16:10
you like to have a bottle
16:12
episode for like Chikote's
16:15
day Chikote's day and it's
16:17
just him sitting in his quarters with
16:20
a million fresh boxes of
16:22
Dixon Ticonderoga's sharpening them individually
16:26
the pan flute
16:28
in his quarters just playing it as
16:30
deafening volume so she comes aboard and
16:44
Ticotay is there waiting for her
16:47
and she's like okay really bad
16:49
news series ending
16:51
bad news there's this species they're
16:53
called the recall we got
16:55
into a scrape with them they
16:57
are ecological extremists who have
16:59
this crazy idea that warp
17:01
travel fucks up subspace
17:04
and we all know that's not true because
17:07
we've never watched that one particular
17:09
episode of TNG that was never
17:11
referenced again but
17:13
we've already reaped the
17:15
punishment of our ship being disassembled
17:18
and us being repopulated to an
17:20
m-class planet and I'm
17:22
basically happy with the deal because I'm
17:24
sick and tired of being responsible for
17:27
all you assholes and this way
17:29
we can just live out the rest of our
17:31
existence in peace they're gonna take our warp core
17:34
away and we're not telling anyone about
17:36
this until we get to this planet
17:39
this is a really fun episode starting
17:41
now for the actors I think because
17:44
this is a Kate Mulgaroo
17:46
performance where she is not acting
17:48
as Jane way she's acting as someone who's trying
17:50
to act like she's Jane way and she's
17:53
got all this information to Give
17:56
Ticotay and she like storms into this
17:58
meeting with Ticotay and she's. Breathing
18:00
heavy like this is like she just
18:02
went through some sit sat on this
18:04
gotta be another way tired to tell.
18:06
Take it. So much fun to think
18:09
about as the episode unfolds. Like all
18:11
these different. Actors used to
18:13
playing these characters but forced to
18:15
play them a little off due
18:17
to them being kind of puppet
18:19
mastered by the doctor. Later for
18:21
a while the think about so
18:23
to go take is. Understandably
18:25
perturbed as a sudden development that
18:28
he's like whoa, like should we
18:30
talk about doesn't she's like no,
18:32
I don't have time to talk
18:34
about it or give you any
18:36
benefit of the doubt on my
18:38
decision surrounding this he is in
18:40
conversation tail and I guess rank
18:42
jail because see is pretty abrupt.
18:45
Towards. The end of this scene and as his
18:47
like I don't want to talk about it and
18:49
I don't want the crew to know either. Leave.
18:52
Dismissed and would see totally
18:54
use. My. Bet was to
18:56
coat is gonna mutiny her. It
18:59
feels. Like a perfect pretext
19:01
for the mutiny we've all suspected
19:03
he's always wanted to do yes,
19:06
Have. So an
19:08
engineering Janeway lox and attack to be
19:10
Lt and she's got a hypothetical. To.
19:13
Propose could we.
19:16
So. Our own warp core.
19:18
At Warp. Question The
19:20
made absolutely zero sense to me, but
19:23
I guess what he's doing is like.
19:25
using. The example avoids your first in
19:27
order to apply it to the Delta
19:29
flyer after year. And. Builds he's
19:31
like, well, I mean, What's.
19:35
Assists I guess. Like the
19:37
solution that? that's pretty theoretical.
19:40
Adds a mosaic Cool. Make that
19:42
sector be modifications to both Voyager
19:44
and the Delta Flyer. It's like
19:47
my this is a hypothetical question
19:49
t shirt is forcing a lot
19:51
of questions answered by my this
19:54
is a hypothetical questions he said.
19:58
This is like when your partner. Like hey,
20:00
hypothetically, what do you think about
20:03
opening up the relationship and you're
20:05
like I don't know, I I
20:07
mean maybe I think about it
20:09
and she's like, i know this
20:11
guy's ssssss ssssss And and. Assists:
20:15
We're all going out tonight.
20:18
Assists and well affair. That
20:22
escalated quickly. A specific. So
20:26
she keeps kind of like making
20:28
excuses to get out of places.
20:30
And the next one. Is
20:33
on the bridge where it's also clear
20:35
that see says ten or guy as
20:37
bell tarring in the scene f clearly
20:40
there's somebody else there that's trying to
20:42
jack her off and seen it satanic.
20:44
Keep a cool for the benefit of
20:46
everyone else on the bridge but they
20:49
notice. Many
20:53
many, many times before in situations where
20:55
to go to and Janeway have been
20:57
together, She claims to have a headache
20:59
in order to leave assess, assess and
21:02
this is one of those moments. You.
21:04
Have the bridge sit out day.
21:07
I'd suggest spend some me time
21:09
for access to head over to
21:11
Six bay where after the seemed
21:14
security asks Doctor Mark. Kneeling.
21:16
Weird. Happen. On
21:18
that mission when you were together. When.
21:21
He came in contact with those aliens. And.
21:25
The. Way the doctor tells the
21:27
story does not do the curiosity
21:29
about Janeway any favors because he's
21:31
like, yeah, you know they sat
21:33
me down. For. When they
21:36
interrogated her. And then when they
21:38
turned me back on again as he seemed pretty
21:40
rough dup. But. Other than that,
21:42
I mean pretty standard uber trip
21:44
to a conference. I also like
21:47
that he beams and six Bad
21:49
Dakota's like what was that about?
21:51
It is like, what would it
21:54
mean? Yes, astronomy of isn't Scotty
21:56
orders a more thorough examination. Of.
21:59
Janeway by. Dr. Mark and he
22:01
agrees to do that. Then.
22:03
In the Ass lab. Explores.
22:05
The idea of what if there's
22:08
a cloaked fleet somewhere that me
22:10
you know, the The Recall are
22:12
reputedly. Rocking. An armada
22:15
that is going to be a giant
22:17
threat to Voyager if they don't comply
22:19
with these orders. And seven as like
22:21
yeah, I mean like you would be
22:23
able to tell something funky was going
22:26
on with sub space if that was
22:28
something that existed. So I guess all
22:30
take a look. Before. They
22:32
can even do this though. A
22:35
face time comes in. And.
22:37
They did. They decide to take it in the
22:39
ass lab. Who's gonna be nice to see? as
22:41
Led screen is so much bigger than that the
22:43
few screen on the bridge. Yeah, Gotta feel like
22:45
a treat to take a face time in there.
22:47
While you if you are going to take it
22:49
in the ass lab, you want to make sure
22:51
that the As lab is. Prepared.
22:53
Really don't wanna just do it
22:56
by surprise? On is. Supremes.
22:59
Are chan last from
23:01
the recall Imperium? And.
23:04
He is a little miffed that the warp
23:06
core the Janeway promised him. Has
23:08
not been ejected yet and given
23:10
over and she totally for. Kind.
23:13
Of hearing all of this for the first time
23:15
really thinks on his feet. Pretty.
23:17
Well here he stole him a boy.
23:20
And. Installing and is granted a
23:22
ten hour time limit like. Give.
23:24
It up and ten hours. Or. You're
23:27
dead. And
23:30
for witnessing the threat of death in
23:32
this scene. How silly,
23:34
seven after witnessing this interaction.
23:37
Cool as a cucumber. Says
23:40
sir. Not. Stressing this
23:42
mess. With
23:44
so much is going on in this episode
23:46
lights Easy Ten of White Not really know
23:48
how to play it for a lot of
23:50
these characters that are right in the middle
23:52
of it. Yes to Go! Day marches back
23:54
to Six Bay and asked the doctor like
23:56
they are. So what happened and he's like
23:58
oh yes, tap them. As
24:00
that's. Health. Test with
24:02
flying colors. She's doing great.
24:05
So. To go to goes to see the kept
24:07
them. And her quarters. Where.
24:09
She isn't. And
24:11
doesn't answer. His
24:14
hail but does come marching around the
24:16
corner. And calls him
24:18
onto the carpet. Said
24:20
is. On the floor in her
24:22
apartment to yell at him about
24:25
getting the doctor to do a
24:27
more thorough medical exam. I didn't
24:29
have them to directly her. something
24:31
trusted each time. I don't know.
24:33
Mark Mike the host the director
24:35
this episode and this was the
24:37
moment when things are started to
24:39
look really interesting to me. Like
24:41
the top positions around singles and
24:44
to sites are so. Like.
24:46
Standardized on the show the you don't
24:48
need to change them very much for
24:50
things to dislike. A little off and
24:52
it's framing. On to coated in Janeway
24:55
doorway I think as an example of
24:57
this, it just looks weird. Looks.
25:00
Really claustrophobic. The cameras really pushed
25:02
up against him in this moment
25:04
and you know it doesn't need
25:06
to be like they could have
25:08
framed this wide in the nice
25:10
light airy hallway. but instead he's
25:12
kind of in shrouded in the
25:14
darkness of the hallway and and
25:16
the ship looks extra dark in
25:18
this episode to the whole thing
25:20
just serves to make the feeling
25:22
uncomfortable. Throughout this episode it's really
25:24
affected. To. The kittens argument about
25:27
like, what about all of the
25:29
trust that we've established between each
25:31
other as officers ads. Why?
25:33
Are you telling me what's going on?
25:35
Captain? Like: what is going on with
25:37
this recall guy and. You
25:40
know, at this Delta Flyer? shirts
25:42
and. See. As. You
25:44
know, trying to allied all
25:47
his concerns. Ads he's
25:49
like, well, what about that time? Unless
25:51
it's prime, you did that thing. You
25:54
are kept of the dark when you are a a young
25:56
lieutenant. And. It's a gotcha.
25:58
Had say what colors the both
26:01
the house questions from rodents basically.
26:04
I wonder how many different versions
26:06
they sketched out for this gotcha
26:09
question? Did. They did. They think
26:11
it all about like gas. That.
26:13
Time we made Sweet love. Assess
26:16
Assess unless a prime you remember
26:18
assess assess. My tongue was in
26:20
every hole on their bodies. I
26:22
pumped do like a warp core.
26:25
Ss assists like the word Korea.
26:27
Getting ready to give up to
26:29
the recall. See
26:32
whips out a hypo
26:35
spray Adelaide. She has
26:37
like super strength. And.
26:39
Overpowers to coat day. What is this?
26:41
The kind of feels like an Admiral
26:44
Quinn moment, right? It really does fight
26:46
him. To Wonders
26:48
Of Upon do you think in Star
26:50
Trek much like you know a home
26:52
you get your medicine cabinet of like.
26:55
Antacids. An advil him and
26:57
whatever. Just the stuff that every home
26:59
has. In. A medicine cabinet right? You've
27:02
got your medicine cabinet with the like a maki
27:04
was stuff and then there's the false panel behind
27:06
it where you keep all like the fungus, creams
27:08
and stuff so that when people come over to
27:10
your house and. Look in your
27:12
medicine cabinet, they don't see all those all
27:15
the dirty sits on the size. It's
27:18
still have a phone analysts a
27:21
great idea. Are you gotta get
27:23
a false panel? Yeah What I'm
27:25
wondering is this. In. Star
27:27
Trek? Do you just have a
27:29
hypo spray? Nozzle. And.
27:32
Then you have like a medicine cabinet full
27:34
a little lad things you you slam and
27:36
do it in order to like. When you
27:39
have a headache you can just get yourself
27:41
as edit things. As our
27:43
religion as years be cool air. And.
27:46
Enough I would want to inject something
27:48
for headaches. This as to how I
27:50
would I hate headache so much. I
27:52
would. I do anything
27:55
I do object me twice. assess,
27:57
assess and. So
28:00
down goes Chikote and in the Voyager morgue, Janeway sets
28:04
up a dampening field there that serves
28:14
to block out the sensors from
28:17
this area and onto the slab
28:19
Chikote's birdie goes, I so wanted
28:21
to see her get his
28:23
body up onto the slab though. Like,
28:26
do you think the scene we don't see
28:28
is Janeway arranging him on the floor in
28:30
such a way where he would fit on
28:32
the slab and then they both beam to
28:34
the morgue that way? Well this
28:36
goes to our recent conversation about, you
28:39
know, beaming down in an
28:41
emergency beam out from an exploding shuttle.
28:43
Yeah. Like, was Chikote
28:46
running around getting his empty Pelican
28:48
case ahead of that? Yeah. So
28:51
how does your computer just change what position your
28:53
birdie is in when it beams you? I
28:56
mean, knowing what we know about Dr.
28:58
Mark's super strength, like he probably as
29:01
Janeway still just got him right up
29:03
on there. I love the idea of
29:05
that being an image like Janeway
29:08
just picking Chikote up like he's light
29:10
as a feather. Yeah. That
29:12
would have been great. Like an
29:14
absolute serial killer, like clipping
29:16
off a pinky toe or
29:18
something. Janeway removes Chikote's comb
29:21
badge and then that
29:23
slides his birdie through the
29:25
morgue door before shutting it. And
29:28
marches down to Six
29:30
Bay, puts her boot
29:32
up on Dr. Mark's desk, and
29:35
what's that under her pant leg? It's
29:37
the mobile emitter and she boops a button
29:39
and it's revealed that this has been Dr.
29:41
Mark the whole time. Oh,
29:45
hi Mark. Amazing. Hi.
29:49
And he takes a FaceTime call, not
29:52
from somebody from
29:54
Recall, but somebody from The Hierarchy
29:56
or like, what are these guys
29:58
called? The Overlookers? They
30:00
are the Overlookers, Ben, and I'm just going
30:03
to admit to you and everyone else, I
30:06
lost all of
30:08
my money betting that
30:12
we would ever see them again,
30:14
let alone on the second to
30:16
last episode ever of Star Trek
30:18
Voyager. Did you ever
30:20
care about the Overlookers? It was
30:22
a very, very long odds
30:24
bet that the Eggmen would show
30:26
up again. I
30:29
thought for sure we would go out with
30:32
a different alien species toward
30:34
the end of this show. One
30:37
last goodbye to the Cazun
30:39
or whatever. Or the Banes.
30:41
Sure. Sure. The
30:44
Overlookers. The Overlookers.
30:46
It was the Overlookers all the
30:49
time. So
30:51
they are keeping the Captain
30:53
hostage to manipulate the Doctor
30:56
and the Captain does not want the Doctor
30:58
to do what he is doing. They're
31:00
trying to get the Warp Corps. Captain
31:03
does not want him to give up the
31:05
Warp Corps. He is perfectly happy to be
31:08
sacrificed for the safety of the ship
31:10
and the crew. But
31:12
the Doctor is focused
31:14
on getting her back in one piece and
31:16
is doing the bidding of these guys and
31:20
is bugged. They are watching through
31:22
his eyes and ears. So they
31:24
are seeing everything he is seeing.
31:27
They have a new assignment for him.
31:30
You get two Overlookers here.
31:32
An Overlooker George and an
31:34
Overlooker Lenny. Overlooker
31:38
George orders Doctor Mark to
31:40
bring him a bio-neural gel pack. There is a
31:42
little bit of resistance to this idea because he
31:45
can't just yank one of these out
31:47
of a panel. It seems like a pretty difficult
31:49
thing to source. But threats
31:52
are made. Doctor
31:54
George is like, you're going to do it and we're going
31:56
to watch you do it. And then in
31:58
a dance out. kind of way, we will
32:01
watch you give it to me
32:04
and all parties will be satisfied.
32:10
We'll upload this to OnlyOverlookers,
32:12
I guess, presumably. We
32:14
should be able to look at a
32:17
little porn at work. And when Tuvok
32:19
radios Dr. Mark to ask him to
32:21
the shuttle bay, this
32:23
gives Dr. Mark an opportunity
32:25
to chameleon himself again. He
32:28
asks for and is given
32:31
Chikote Face. This is
32:33
starting to just be logistically
32:35
tricky. He is impersonating Chikote
32:37
and the captain and also
32:39
presumably doing all of the
32:42
Dr. Mark stuff that
32:44
he would normally be doing during.
32:47
So trying to make everybody think that
32:49
nothing is wrong while trying
32:52
to be in three places at the same time. And
32:54
boy, what a stressful position that must
32:57
be. In the Delta Fly
32:59
or Tuvok can't find anything wrong with
33:01
its communication system. And
33:04
Chikote is like, huh, weird. And
33:08
over with the Overlookers, they're watching Star Trek
33:10
on Star Trek like this is fun. One
33:13
last Star Trek on Star Trek scene. Before
33:16
we go, pretty cool. There could still be
33:18
another one in the next episode. It wouldn't
33:20
be unlikely. We're
33:22
dodging back and forth between the Overlooker
33:24
ship and the Delta Flyer before we
33:27
finally find ourselves on that
33:29
Overlooker ship. And Janeway
33:32
starts talking shit. We've seen a
33:34
lot of hostage situations on Voyager lately
33:36
and often the hostage tries
33:39
to be nice, tries to
33:41
put themselves in a position where the
33:43
hostage taker would feel bad to do
33:45
anything harmful to them. Janeway just starts
33:47
talking shit. Yeah,
33:50
well, there's like the junior Overlooker is
33:52
kind of an encouraging guy. He's like,
33:54
you're doing a great job, Doc. And
33:56
the head guy is much more surly.
33:58
So she. She really puts the
34:01
wood to that guy and
34:04
is trying to scare them by
34:06
making them believe that it is possible
34:08
that the EMH has simulated everything that
34:11
they're seeing through his eyes and ears
34:14
in the holodeck and that Voyager's already
34:16
on top of what they're trying to
34:18
do and may already be headed at
34:20
them at high warp. Janeway's
34:22
got that energy of like, you
34:25
can't fuck with me when my boyfriend gets
34:27
here. He's going to kick your ass. Just
34:31
fuck baby heads! Like that
34:33
energy? Yeah. She's got a
34:35
big mouth but she's not kidding. I'm going to
34:37
whip you silly and I'm going to fuck you
34:39
stupid. The boyfriend winds up going down really easy.
34:41
Yeah. Yeah. She
34:44
proposes, look, this is all getting very
34:46
complicated. Why don't you just throw me
34:48
in an escape pod, blow
34:50
me out the back, and just
34:52
end this quagmire before it starts. It's
34:54
going to be bad for you, trust
34:56
me. We learned
34:58
that these guys are hierarchy escapees
35:01
and they stole this ship and
35:03
now they are pursuing a life
35:05
of crime and they're basically kind
35:07
of on a heat style. This
35:11
is a big score that we're trying to take down
35:13
so that we can then go retire in water with
35:17
algae that glows in the dark or
35:19
whatever. When
35:21
Overlooker Lenny chose his
35:24
ID to the guy working the
35:26
shop that sells explosives, do
35:29
you think it's just like wider
35:31
at the bottom to accommodate what
35:33
his facial structure looks like? Yeah.
35:37
These guys carry trapezoidal IDs. Yeah.
35:40
Because the guy at Brady Demolition is going to
35:42
know the difference between a
35:44
fake ID and a real one from
35:46
an Overlooker. So,
35:49
back on Voyager, the EMH
35:52
needs to get Torres away
35:54
from engineering. So, impersonates
35:57
the captain's voice to get her to go do the
35:59
job. Something on the Delta
36:02
Flyer and then downloads her
36:04
image into his mobile emitter.
36:07
And gets ready to go impersonate
36:09
her. and I like the light
36:11
running out the door and realizing
36:14
not pregnant enough Sas effect for
36:16
a specific see would have been
36:18
fun if he goes out into
36:21
public as not pregnant Blt and.
36:23
Like. The react swim, the crew
36:25
and what that would mean. That.
36:28
Just complicates. a very complicated episode
36:30
though. Yeah. I mean
36:32
the other thing that I wanted
36:34
it was instead of the image
36:36
of Blt disappearing and reappearing with
36:39
the belly up, it's but the
36:41
inflatable under the for the costume
36:43
and fill it up right? That's
36:45
more fun, right? First Trimester. Second
36:50
Trimester: Woo hoo
36:52
ha ha. It's.
36:58
It's fun when Doctor
37:01
Blt could run into.
37:03
Blc. Actual like that kind of stress
37:06
is a big thing, but there's a totally
37:08
different kind of stress. When.
37:10
Doctor be else. He goes to get a gel
37:12
pack and is. Confronted by.
37:15
Paris. A Paris who is just
37:17
as motivated as he was in the cold
37:19
open. He's. Going to the hotel dishes
37:21
with the dome on it and her. guess
37:24
what? More. Fried Chicken. Such.
37:27
City was in Fried chicken? Do? I
37:29
don't think this is that bad. The
37:32
suits like refrigerator fried chicken like leftover
37:34
fried chicken? whatever. Really like. And
37:36
want. A darker crust on my
37:39
chicken? Man like I wanted. C.
37:41
B D You know it looks
37:43
like it would say Gremlins fried
37:45
Chicken something. Again,
37:49
I was shocked that for it didn't
37:52
die in the scene or something there,
37:54
especially because they're up high and a
37:56
section in engineering at that someone was
37:58
going over railing. And
38:01
work is like maybe the first
38:03
person that notices somebody is acting
38:06
really weird that has no context
38:08
for it in L A. But.
38:10
Like doesn't really get to do anything
38:12
with that is just onscreen to be
38:14
like fans seem strains. I mean I
38:16
like part of this is a scene
38:18
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38:21
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38:23
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42:02
cut to the ass
42:05
lab where Chikote has
42:07
been summoned. Of
42:17
course, this is Dr. Chikote with
42:20
Seven and Ensign Kim, and they're looking
42:22
at the image of this recall guy
42:24
that radioed up earlier. And
42:27
they've done some back
42:29
tracing on the call. Turns out the
42:31
call came from inside the ship. So
42:36
scary. Did
42:40
you ever watch that classic horror
42:42
film When a Stranger Calls? Have
42:45
not. That was like the
42:47
first horror movie version of The Call
42:50
is Coming from Inside the House. You
42:52
might just know its reputation based on that.
42:55
I guess I know it from Scream, right? Yeah.
42:58
Scream bit that rhyme. Yeah. Yeah.
43:01
Well, anyways, quote unquote, Chikote and
43:03
Ensign Kim go down to the
43:06
holodeck to recreate the holo image
43:08
of this recall guy and try
43:10
to figure out who placed the
43:12
call from in here because it
43:14
was placed from the holodeck. Gets
43:17
an image of the recall guy and then is
43:19
like, oh, there's another hologram underneath it. And
43:22
it just resolves as the EMH as
43:24
the hypo spray is going into Ensign
43:27
Kim's neck. And a second birdie is
43:29
put on the slab in the morgue. You
43:32
know, the darkest part of this story is
43:35
that no one will miss Chikote and
43:37
Kim. What's
43:39
going on? Looking for him. Like as
43:41
sort of unattached single dudes. Like how
43:44
long would it take before someone missed
43:46
either of them? That's
43:48
sad. I
43:50
mean, you'd think like maybe Paris would
43:52
be bored and call Kim up. Yeah.
43:55
Yeah. How many morgue
43:58
slabs do they have on this show? You
44:00
only see this shot of the morgue, but
44:04
makes you wonder if maybe it's like
44:06
those parking structures in New York City
44:08
where you can probably slide a body
44:10
in and the body's moving up or
44:13
down in the thing, like
44:15
a dumbwaiter. Oh, I
44:17
like that idea. That was a great
44:20
Stuff You Should Know episode years ago
44:22
about this mission that
44:24
the US military did where there
44:27
was a Soviet nuclear sub that
44:29
bottomed out and everybody aboard
44:31
died and
44:35
the US wanted to recover this submarine
44:37
so that they could study it and
44:40
see how the Soviets
44:42
were building their subs. So they built this
44:44
giant boat that was going to put
44:47
pincers down to the floor of the ocean somewhere
44:50
in the Pacific and lift the sub
44:52
up. But it had to
44:54
look like it's a normal boat so
44:57
that satellite images would not reveal what
44:59
it was actually doing. But
45:01
also, they had to build
45:03
a huge morgue on this boat for
45:05
all the bodies on the sub because
45:07
there's international law about what
45:09
you do with the bodies of
45:11
dead sailors when you recover a ship. You
45:14
have to shoot them out like depth
45:16
charges, right? Put an escape jacket
45:18
on to make sure he floats. They
45:20
couldn't just not have a plan for those.
45:23
I think that they failed for this huge
45:26
ship that had a
45:28
secret opening under compartment and a
45:31
totally enormous morgue on it. It
45:33
didn't wind up getting to
45:35
do what it was built to do. But
45:38
that's kind of what Voyager needs right now
45:40
for its growing number of
45:42
bodies problem. That's the naval equivalent
45:45
of three kids standing on their
45:47
shoulders wearing a trench coat. That's
45:50
fun. That's the collection of
46:00
badges is growing. Dr. Mark
46:03
assembles them in his
46:05
office and is clearly feeling real
46:07
bad about the situation and starts
46:10
playing some music. He's playing Blue
46:12
Danube Waltz in
46:14
his office and starts
46:17
beeping buttons. This button
46:19
beeping felt important.
46:22
It doesn't seem like the Eggman are
46:24
really picking up on what he's doing,
46:27
but Tuvok comes and pays him a
46:29
visit while he's playing this
46:31
music. He's claiming that
46:34
it is just some self-care
46:36
after a stressful day. Tuvok's
46:38
utility belt is absolutely filled
46:40
in this scene, which
46:43
is interesting and it's revealed
46:46
toward the end of the scene when Dr.
46:48
Mark's answers are just bullshit
46:50
and bad that
46:53
he's going to need the dust buster on
46:55
this thing to take him on. But the
46:57
thing about the Doctor that I
46:59
don't think either of us knew until this scene was
47:02
how fucking badass Dr. Mark
47:05
is if he had to
47:07
escape. He flies
47:09
through a window without breaking it. That
47:11
part is fun. But he kind of
47:14
Spider-Man's up and down walls
47:17
and stuff. He
47:19
uses the walls to fight the
47:21
way a martial arts film would
47:24
use. It's really fun
47:26
and a little
47:29
bit disappointing that this exciting potential
47:31
of this character is
47:33
only being realized in the penultimate
47:36
episode, as you said. He
47:39
runs to escape using
47:41
his mobile emitter and
47:43
parkours around and gets
47:46
into a holodeck.
47:48
My stand-up and cheer moment of the
47:50
episode was when the doors finally opened
47:52
to the holodeck and Tuvok walks into
47:54
a room full of one
47:56
million marks. Amazing
48:00
moment. Really fun. I
48:02
literally laughed out loud. And
48:04
then meanwhile, Mark Actual is
48:06
escaping in a Jeffries tube.
48:09
It's kind of a response to how bad
48:12
the mini Dr. Mark scene was so
48:14
early in the series. You know, like
48:17
the tricks that they would do to
48:19
his hollow early on.
48:21
Neither funny nor good, I thought. But
48:23
this moment, I thought was great in
48:26
both ways. Yeah, it really
48:28
worked. They finally get the holodeck
48:31
turned off and it's revealed that
48:33
nobody's in there. But
48:35
nobody asks questions when Dr.
48:37
Takote marches into engineering and says the
48:40
doctors messed with your internal sensors and
48:42
the warp cores are about to go
48:44
critical. Everyone out. Don't
48:46
you wish there was a door that came
48:48
down like the D had? It
48:51
sucks that you can eject the core
48:53
and there's no fucking door. There's no
48:55
there's no garage door for BLT to
48:58
roll under and strike a pose on
49:00
the other side. She
49:03
does a pregnant lady roll, which is like
49:05
rolling stop on the belly. And
49:08
then the door just comes right down on her. It
49:13
hits the belly and then starts going back up like
49:15
a safety sensor
49:17
was triggered. No, it's supposed to do this.
49:19
This is the safety thing. So
49:24
she gets trapped behind a
49:26
force field while Dr. Takote
49:29
activates emergency command hologram.
49:32
And now ECH Mark
49:34
ejects the core. You
49:36
get to see it come out. You
49:38
get a really close up shot of this. Loved
49:41
this. There was something very poopy about
49:43
this scene. I thought this
49:46
thing is long. Yeah,
49:48
real long. It's long enough where you're like,
49:50
should I take a picture? This
49:53
episode sponsored by symbiotic plus.
49:59
So now in the guise
50:01
of BLT, Dr. Mark is
50:03
escaping down a hallway and
50:05
Tuvok catches her and she
50:09
like parkours around him again.
50:11
Amazing. So good.
50:13
Yeah. And escapes on
50:15
the flyer and all the modifications have
50:17
now been made so that the flyer
50:19
can tow the warp core
50:22
at warp safely. I love
50:24
how the Delta flyer doesn't stop in
50:26
this sequence. Like it just whips that
50:28
tractor beam on its way
50:31
out. Yeah. Really quick
50:33
escape. Which is not like
50:35
what you expect from a Star Trek ship.
50:37
I feel like they
50:39
usually move so slow and the Delta flyer is
50:41
all about how fast it can
50:43
go. So it's really cool. We
50:46
cut over to this Renegade
50:48
Overlooker ship and
50:51
the younger junior officer
50:53
guy is repairing gadgets.
50:57
And this is something that Janeway
50:59
quickly identifies as another opportunity to
51:01
drive a wedge between him and
51:03
his superior
51:06
officer talking about, Oh
51:08
yeah, like you're all this junk that you
51:10
fix up is definitely worth a ton of
51:12
money. And you know, when
51:14
my ship is back together, I bet
51:17
my chief engineer would love to buy all
51:19
this stuff from you. Yeah. There's coffee in
51:21
spare parts. George Overlooker
51:23
is not having this at
51:25
all. He sees what's going
51:27
on here between Janeway
51:29
and the Lenny Overlooker. But to
51:33
stop to this pretty fast. Also,
51:35
if you're the Lenny Overlooker, like how
51:37
is this the dream of
51:39
getting rich, opening up a
51:41
business selling engine parts? I like
51:44
their dream before where it was
51:46
like spa day forever. Could
51:51
we have like a spa day where
51:53
I'm tinkering with a gadget though? Yeah.
51:55
Can I take my parts into the
51:57
mud bath? Maybe. So
52:01
they get the hail that Dr.
52:03
Mark is here with their stolen warp
52:06
core and he's not going
52:17
to release it until he gets
52:19
the captain aboard. And
52:23
George Overlooker just
52:26
fires on him without any
52:28
warning. Dr. Mark is like,
52:30
are you fucking crazy? Like if the warp
52:32
core blows, it destroys both of our ships
52:34
immediately. What are you doing? And
52:38
I really like this moment for the character
52:40
of George Overlooker because it reveals that he's
52:43
like fucking nuts and he's
52:45
really like a devil may
52:47
care, like we'll use violence early and
52:49
often kind of guy. It's
52:52
such a weird combination of
52:54
like these Eggmen and everything
52:57
that's involved in how they look and
53:00
their actions. They
53:03
look like such dopes, but they're
53:05
really lethal, at least one of them. I
53:07
would love to get these guys in the room
53:09
with some pack lads, you know? Oh yeah. Yeah.
53:13
Like dopiest aliens to
53:15
highest danger ratio is
53:17
an interesting competition here because the
53:20
Eggmen are at least like conniving. Like
53:23
the pack lads are dangerous because of
53:26
just how like willful they are. We
53:28
want what we want. Dr. Mark's
53:30
really out of his depth here because
53:32
he is told
53:34
that he needs to lower his shield so
53:37
that the captain can be beamed over as
53:39
per their negotiated
53:41
plan. So he
53:43
does and oops, he's
53:45
beamed into the brig with Janeway now.
53:49
You fucking dork, Dr. Mark.
53:52
You don't know what you're doing. I
53:54
loved the Lenny
53:56
Overlooker being the one
53:58
that feels bad about this. And
54:01
Mark not feeling bad about this, like
54:03
when he is beamed over, he's beamed
54:05
into the cell with the captain. And
54:08
Lenny's like, oh man, I didn't know he was
54:10
going to do that. And the captain being like,
54:12
you fucking idiot, Dr. Mark. And Dr. Mark being
54:14
like, I'm trying to save your fucking life! What
54:17
did you expect me to do? Let them
54:19
kill you? I expected you to follow my
54:21
orders. They get into the plans for the
54:24
prisoners pretty fast in this scene. It's like,
54:26
alright, cool. Well, we got both of you,
54:28
and that's great. Janeway, you're worthless
54:30
to us. We're just going to drop
54:32
you off at the nearest planet. Some
54:34
dumpy ass M-class. Doesn't even matter which.
54:37
And Dr. Mark, we're going to turn some screws on
54:40
you and get you to work for us from
54:42
now on. Pretty spooky. On
54:45
Voyager, they finally turn up
54:47
Chikote and Kim in
54:49
the morgue. And there was another like very
54:51
recognizable extra in this scene when they find
54:53
Chikote and Kim. And I was like, oh,
54:55
he's going to get a line too. And
54:58
he does not. VLT
55:00
restarts the impulse reactors, and that's
55:02
what turns on the lights in
55:04
the ship. Things are starting to
55:06
look normal again, even though
55:09
not much else is going to work
55:11
there. Unfortunately, along with
55:13
the lights, the music starts again.
55:15
It's Blue Danube, but it's off
55:17
key though. Why? It's
55:20
not sounding right. No. In
55:23
the ass lab, basically every senior
55:25
officer has assembled so that they
55:27
can analyze
55:29
this musical composition
55:32
and why it sounds so
55:34
weird. And it's like familiar because
55:36
the doctor played it recently
55:38
at a recital, but unfamiliar
55:40
because it's off. They
55:44
realized that the way it is off is
55:47
describing a warp signature
55:50
like mathematically or something. And
55:53
I guess that gives them something
55:55
to scan for to find the Eggmen
55:58
that have Mark and the Captain. and
56:00
the warp core. Can't take Voyager out there
56:02
to these coordinates though. Good thing they have
56:04
a bunch of brats. Yeah. Inexpensive
56:06
and built to stay that way.
56:08
Just tell him it saved your
56:11
money, buster. Meanwhile
56:13
the captain is trying to do
56:15
something to modify the mobile emitter
56:17
to break the force field so
56:19
that they can bust out of
56:22
jail. And
56:24
Dr. Mark is catching a little
56:26
bit more flak for getting himself
56:28
and the warp core captured but
56:30
also saying like, hey, I just really want to get
56:32
to know you better. This
56:36
is not the time for this. I
56:40
think it might be something you bring up
56:42
like your fantasy fridge and all the pies
56:44
in it. Like when you're a
56:46
prisoner for a long time, you start fantasizing about
56:49
getting free and what you're going to do when you're there.
56:51
They've been in the brig for like 20 minutes. So
56:55
this is a little soon I think from the
56:58
doctor. Too early. What you
57:00
should be doing right now is getting
57:02
ready to beat the shit out of
57:04
the biggest guy in the lunchroom when
57:06
it's meal call. Yeah. They
57:09
demonstrate the reprogramming on Dr. Mark here.
57:11
And it's going to be for a spy mission inside
57:14
the hierarchy. They hit a
57:16
couple of buttons and they reskin him as
57:18
an over looker. Look at this guy. Yeah. Look
57:21
at how eggy he is. So eggy. He's got
57:23
egg on his face and everywhere else.
57:25
He's got a bush. What the hell?
57:29
But the program doesn't hold together very
57:31
long. It starts to degrade and destabilize
57:34
and it becomes kind of an emergency
57:36
situation. Yeah. The data is
57:38
messing his program up. And this
57:40
is when the brat catches up
57:42
with their ship and
57:45
Paris and Tuvac are using
57:48
the element of surprise to their
57:50
advantage, even though the ship is
57:52
massively outgunning and outclassing them. And
57:56
you'll love Paris splitting off and
57:58
beaming onto the flier so that
58:00
the had two weapons platforms going.
58:02
That was great. Yeah, love that
58:04
move. It's a really exciting combat
58:06
sequence. And again, George
58:09
is like totally fucking unhinged with the
58:12
level of violence he's willing to bring
58:14
to bear on any situation. And
58:16
he's preparing a torpedo to destroy
58:19
the warp core because like,
58:22
Mark is much more valuable to him than
58:24
the warp core. He's like, if we do
58:26
this heist on the hierarchy that I have
58:28
planned, we'll have plenty of money so because
58:30
I have Mark, I'd much rather get the
58:33
fuck away from these guys and go do that. But
58:36
the combat knocks out the force
58:38
field in the jail area of
58:40
their ship and turns into a
58:44
hand-to-hand struggle on the bridge. Pretty
58:46
great scene. A bunch of phaser shoots,
58:49
a bunch of
58:51
fists, the whole thing. And like
58:53
Mark phasing in and out of different
58:55
lukes over the course of the fight
58:57
scene. How about Overlooker
58:59
Lenny hitting Overlooker George with
59:02
the engine part to finish the job? It's
59:05
really nice when it's Lenny that takes
59:07
out George every so often, you know?
59:10
Yeah. Enough with the tyranny
59:12
of the Georges. Lenny's of
59:14
the world unite. You
59:17
have nothing to lose but the mouse that
59:20
you keep in your coat pocket or whatever.
59:22
You gonna give me that mouse or am I
59:25
gonna have to suck you? The end
59:27
of this episode really stitches together fast.
59:30
In really quick succession, the warp
59:32
core gets scooped up by the
59:34
Delta Flyer. Everyone heads back to
59:36
Voyager and on the holodeck they
59:38
work to stabilize Dr. Mark's matrix
59:40
again. And the
59:42
problem with it is that it's stuffed with so
59:45
much new data from the Overlookers. Dr.
59:49
Mark is facing a very real
59:52
reality that he might not
59:54
live through this procedure. He's
59:56
been corrupted utterly by the
59:58
Overlookers. He's got some things
1:00:00
to get off his chest if this is truly it
1:00:03
for him. Yeah, it sort of
1:00:05
starts with like a last will and testament,
1:00:07
like give my emitter to the Dastrom Institute.
1:00:09
Maybe they could do something with it. But
1:00:12
then, yeah, it turns into like delete
1:00:14
my shitty diary that I kept of
1:00:16
all the things I disagreed with the
1:00:18
captain on and apologies
1:00:21
all around and some interesting choices
1:00:23
about what he chooses to apologize
1:00:25
for. The thing that
1:00:27
I learned from this scene is that
1:00:30
if someone tells you that you're gonna
1:00:32
die, you really need to
1:00:34
get like a second opinion. Like you need to be
1:00:36
sure before
1:00:38
you start unburdening yourself of all
1:00:41
of these things. No
1:00:43
surprise that he's still madly in love with
1:00:45
Seven of Nine. Do you
1:00:48
think her react here is bigger or
1:00:50
smaller than the one from the ass
1:00:52
lab where that alien told
1:00:54
Chikote that he was going to destroy the
1:00:56
ship in 10 hours? What's
1:01:00
more distressing to her? It seems
1:01:02
like this. Yeah, I think so too. I agree.
1:01:05
Because she's like trying to explain it away.
1:01:07
She's like, he's going crazy. Like this is,
1:01:09
you know, he's not of sound mind and
1:01:11
body. He's saying
1:01:13
crazy shit because his program is
1:01:15
overloaded. Right. Right. This is
1:01:17
so fast though, Ben. Like, like he gets
1:01:19
into all this shit and then he blurbs
1:01:22
away, but he's not deleted, he pops right
1:01:24
back into the room. And
1:01:26
Dr. Mark is super embarrassed about
1:01:29
what just happened, but
1:01:31
we cut over to a Janeway's log where
1:01:34
we get the update on the ship. The,
1:01:36
the, the core has been rammed back into
1:01:39
the hole. Or yeah. I mean, so that's
1:01:41
repaired, but Dr. Mark will take
1:01:43
a lot longer. And in sick bay, Janeway goes
1:01:45
to do just that. It seems
1:01:48
like saving the day has really
1:01:50
gone badly for him. Yeah.
1:01:54
He did create the method
1:01:57
by which they were able to get the.
1:02:00
warp core back and rescue him
1:02:02
as the captain, but everybody
1:02:05
knows all his dirty laundry now and
1:02:07
he has just been hiding in
1:02:09
shame in Six Bay ever
1:02:11
since. And the
1:02:14
captain is really cool about it. She
1:02:16
comes and basically orders him to
1:02:19
get back in the game, come
1:02:21
do some of that socializing with me that you
1:02:23
seem so interested in. Not
1:02:26
unprecedented for the chief medical officer and the
1:02:28
captain of the starship to be pals. Maybe
1:02:33
we could have croissants together for breakfast
1:02:36
every day or something. Would
1:02:38
you like to watch a bartender
1:02:40
from Fairhaven, Eiffel Tower me? You
1:02:46
just sit in the corner and watch Dr. Mark.
1:02:52
Tell me how close we get
1:02:54
to medically unsafe. You can
1:02:56
fiddle with your mobile emitter if you want, but
1:02:59
I don't want to see it. Did
1:03:01
you like this episode, Ben? You know, probably we
1:03:03
need to get along with it. I
1:03:11
really did like this episode. I mean, I felt
1:03:14
really bad for the doc at the end.
1:03:16
Like the gut punch of shame at the
1:03:18
end felt a little bit mean
1:03:20
of the episode writers. This
1:03:23
is a series about kicking Dr. Mark
1:03:25
in the nuts, though. Yeah,
1:03:27
it really is. So with
1:03:30
that said, I did
1:03:32
feel like the rest of
1:03:34
the episode was really great. And I love
1:03:37
a mystery where a character is acting weird
1:03:39
and the rest of the crew has to
1:03:41
figure out what's going on. And
1:03:45
I think that those often fall
1:03:47
apart when you're like, if this person had
1:03:49
just said something to that person, they
1:03:51
would have like realized something was up 25 minutes
1:03:54
earlier and the mystery
1:03:56
falls apart. And I thought that this was
1:03:59
really well structured. where everybody's
1:04:01
reactions to Dr.
1:04:04
Mark in his weird behavior felt
1:04:06
natural. Like his behavior
1:04:09
as Captain Janeway at the beginning felt strange,
1:04:11
but like nobody really knew what to do
1:04:13
about it. Yeah. So
1:04:16
I really enjoyed this one. How about you? I
1:04:18
really like all the performances. As
1:04:21
I said before, like I like the variation that
1:04:23
an actor can give their own character this
1:04:26
far into the series. I think that's a fun idea.
1:04:28
I don't really care for the Overlookers and
1:04:31
I'm kind of bummed that they are the last
1:04:33
look backwards into the Delta Quadrant before
1:04:35
we finish the series. Like I'm aware
1:04:38
the finale is about the Borgs and
1:04:40
stuff, but like I wish we got a
1:04:42
different alien or a different type of
1:04:44
story or even maybe the Neelix goodbye
1:04:47
episode in this position in
1:04:50
the season. Something
1:04:52
about a story like
1:04:54
this with aliens like this makes
1:04:57
it feel like I wanted something
1:04:59
else just before the end here.
1:05:02
Yeah. I think that's how I feel about it. Nothing
1:05:04
wrong with it. I think it's just a like record
1:05:07
sequence thought I'm having.
1:05:10
Yeah. It is so different
1:05:12
from what they would be doing on
1:05:14
a modern television show that knows that
1:05:16
this is the last season. It
1:05:19
sure feels like you kill someone in the
1:05:22
second to the last episode. Yeah. Yeah.
1:05:25
This would be a great spot for that. That's why
1:05:27
I was so worried for Voric. Yeah. They
1:05:31
put him in this one so that they could take him out. Yeah.
1:05:35
Yeah. We killed Carrie, kill
1:05:37
Voric. Kill Voric. At that point, what's
1:05:39
the difference? Drop of a hat. These
1:05:41
guys will rock and roll. I say that
1:05:44
like we have as of
1:05:46
this recording recorded four episodes about
1:05:48
the final season of Star Trek
1:05:50
Discovery. And word on
1:05:52
that is that they did not find
1:05:54
out that that was going to be the final season
1:05:56
until they finished shooting the scripts
1:05:58
that they had written for it. it. So then
1:06:00
they had to go back and do reshoots for
1:06:02
the end of season five of Discovery to make
1:06:04
it the end and not a cliffhanger or whatever.
1:06:07
And I don't think
1:06:09
that that was the case with Voyager, right? Like
1:06:12
they knew that this is this was it. So
1:06:14
it's interesting that they aren't winding things up a
1:06:16
little bit more toward the end. I
1:06:19
agree. Ben, we're we're kind
1:06:21
of winding our way toward the end of
1:06:23
the priority one messages for Star Trek Voyager.
1:06:25
We are. See what we have in there?
1:06:27
Let's do it. Priority
1:06:30
one message from Starfleet coming in
1:06:32
on secured channel. Leave
1:06:34
us up a little. supplement. supplement.
1:06:39
Yes, extra. By the interest of the loan, couldn't
1:06:41
be enough to buy this ship. Our
1:06:44
first priority one message is from
1:06:47
mischievous miles. That's two
1:06:49
friends of DeSoto. And
1:06:51
it goes like this in November 2017. Plaveem
1:06:54
bought a P1 telling Raz
1:06:56
to fuck himself. It
1:06:59
aired on the DS9 finale in
1:07:01
February of 2021. What
1:07:05
this P1 presupposes is
1:07:07
those two have spent all of TGG
1:07:09
Voyager planning a follow up. I
1:07:12
am preemptively playing a switcheroo card.
1:07:15
Whoever comes out on top next
1:07:17
week, the opposite person shall be
1:07:19
declared the winner. That's
1:07:21
Calvin ball fellas. This
1:07:24
was sent in January of
1:07:26
2022 by mischievous miles who
1:07:29
I do have a copy of the rules of
1:07:31
Calvin ball here. He is citing the rules correctly.
1:07:34
Then back away from the P1 mischievous
1:07:38
miles has the upper hand now. Amazing.
1:07:43
Wow, excited to see if there
1:07:46
is in fact a P1 from
1:07:48
Raz or Plaveem next week. Well,
1:07:51
Ben messages from the past going
1:07:53
into the future are kind of
1:07:55
a theme on the P1s this week. This one
1:07:57
from past Peter, it's to future
1:07:59
Peter. The message goes like this,
1:08:02
By this time, you should have completed our
1:08:04
five year mission to watch all of Star
1:08:06
Trek, finishing this week with
1:08:08
Voyager. Thank you to
1:08:10
Ben and Adam and to all the FODs everywhere
1:08:12
for making it more fun. Special
1:08:15
thanks to she who is my wife, Luisa,
1:08:17
for sometimes watching us, listening
1:08:20
to the pod, and even coming
1:08:22
with me to live shows in DC.
1:08:24
Harry Kim drop? Something
1:08:27
about it reminds me of being in the womb. Who
1:08:29
are you? Harry Kim. Harry
1:08:32
Kim. Harry Kim must be very proud.
1:08:35
Who are you? They come as a pair. Who are
1:08:37
you? Harry Kim. Who else is she supposed to get
1:08:39
chummy with? Harry Kim. And your
1:08:41
mom? Very proud. Who are you? Harry
1:08:44
Kim. That lasted 22 months. And your
1:08:46
mom? Very proud. Harry Kim.
1:08:49
Who are you? Harry Kim. Wow. Well,
1:08:52
yeah, thank you to Luisa for sure. And thanks
1:08:54
to past Peter and future Peter for sticking
1:08:57
with our little corner of the
1:08:59
Internet for your rewatch. Sometimes
1:09:02
the best you can do from a
1:09:04
partner is just like sometimes. Sometimes
1:09:07
watching apps. Sometimes listening
1:09:09
to the pod. Sometimes going
1:09:11
to a live show. Sometimes it's good. Sometimes
1:09:14
it's great. Well, if
1:09:16
you'd like to look at P1,
1:09:18
probably not for next week, but
1:09:20
for our coverage of Enterprise or
1:09:22
just for, you know, somebody's birthday
1:09:25
or so that past
1:09:27
you can say something to future
1:09:29
you or whatever, please head
1:09:32
over to maximumfun.org/jumbotron and set
1:09:34
one up today. Hey, Ben. Oh,
1:09:38
what's that, Adam? Did you
1:09:40
find yourself a drunk shimoda? Incredible.
1:09:42
Drunk shimoda. I'm going
1:09:44
to give it to Chekov Zvorak. He
1:09:47
felt like he was in this episode
1:09:49
for some things. Yeah. He
1:09:52
ended up being in this episode for no reason at all.
1:09:54
It could have been anybody speaking those
1:09:56
lines or no one. Like, like
1:09:58
you could edit those two. The scenes he
1:10:00
was in out of the show and
1:10:03
I don't think I would have played
1:10:05
a if it's what an amazing art
1:10:07
for barack. Know. Whether.
1:10:09
Or not he died this episode. What?
1:10:12
Does that guy's. What? As that
1:10:14
guy, I think for that reason I'm gonna
1:10:16
make him nicely motor to my. I
1:10:19
read this is his last episode in the series.
1:10:22
And. The owner put him over. Here.
1:10:25
With the Simona yeah that does Feel like one
1:10:27
thing that they're doing with the end of the
1:10:29
series is like. Gonna. Bring him back
1:10:32
some old saves and giving little bump
1:10:34
up to a speaking part to. The.
1:10:36
Occasional guy from the
1:10:38
backgrounds crew so that's
1:10:40
nice. Serious. Big
1:10:44
episode next week ban it is the
1:10:47
series finale of Star Trek Voyager. Answer
1:10:50
is I'm going to to
1:10:52
gas.busy last game so we
1:10:54
can play the game of
1:10:56
but. Their
1:10:58
savior. And I'm also going to tell
1:11:00
you about Season Seven Episode Twenty five.
1:11:03
And. Game. Voyagers.
1:11:05
Quests to return home is aided by
1:11:08
a visitor from the future. Admiral
1:11:10
Kathryn Janeway Time Travel however same
1:11:12
way to said sir risk Voyagers
1:11:15
short cup home in order to
1:11:17
destroy the board. And. Save
1:11:19
millions of lives. That's not
1:11:21
the only risk taking behavior
1:11:24
I've done and Mauser divorced.
1:11:26
Assess Assess Assess Assess uncommon
1:11:28
for you seek out day
1:11:30
ssssss as as as I
1:11:32
blew it. That's what I'm
1:11:34
saying. Is
1:11:38
that? Come with me
1:11:40
if you want to fact one of
1:11:42
our more interesting missions. There's
1:11:44
a short go home but there's also a short
1:11:47
cut into a double wide bath. Your
1:11:51
choice or right Adam Big
1:11:54
role Here we are on
1:11:56
square seven. We. Do
1:11:58
have a caretaker square. It out ahead
1:12:00
of us. And looks like
1:12:03
we can also hit a Coca? No,
1:12:05
no, One. Is.
1:12:07
The caretaker so chooses. You're
1:12:09
required to learn as you
1:12:12
play roles. Summer. God
1:12:14
role this phone. I
1:12:18
rolled the six jumping us over both
1:12:20
six. I
1:12:22
was clean. Are all
1:12:24
last square fifteen? Have.
1:12:27
Thought I had to admit, I thought
1:12:29
something weird was gonna happen for the
1:12:31
last episode of Star Trek Voyager. Now.
1:12:34
Know. Just gonna raw dog the
1:12:36
episode regular episode. I mean we might
1:12:38
have a have all of drink to
1:12:40
celebrate right? Yes, that sounds fun. Let's
1:12:43
do it. only gets wasted Ness that
1:12:45
I bodies a temple. Unless
1:12:50
the games tells me otherwise. I'm
1:12:53
sides think of the worst temples I
1:12:55
just don't know. I assessed that serbia
1:12:57
available to with your way to go
1:13:00
into very fraught waters a desert don't
1:13:02
a non temples out of assess assess
1:13:04
assess at. Temple.
1:13:08
But that ssssss.
1:13:14
Ah boy, this has been a lot
1:13:16
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with then we'll be back at
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ya next week with another great
1:14:53
episode of Star Trek Voyager. As
1:14:55
an episode of The Greatest Generation
1:14:58
Voyager where I have been an
1:15:00
Atom, have an opportunity to stop
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Adam Come. Visit and they risk
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at all for some reason. Or
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seems really well justified in the mom. Future
1:15:13
Adam comes back to tell
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present Adam he got a
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statue in this ssssss skies
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