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by night, all day! Have you ever had

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to deal with jet lag for a fight?

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No, not really. I mean, we try to go up like early, that's why. So

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the first two days is whatever, but after that we're all good. Where's

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the furthest that you had to fly to to fight? I think

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so, Abu Dhabi, Fight Island. So how long does that take

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to adjust? Brother, that one was weird because

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then you remember they had us fighting at weird times? So

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we had to sleep during the day

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and then train during the night. I

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remember going to sleep around 8 or 9 o'clock a.m.

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Yeah, because we were fighting around that

0:44

time, early in the morning. So

0:46

that was insane. So

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you had to get your body acclimated to that?

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Acclimated, yep. That's

0:52

got to play a factor, right? Like if you live in Abu

0:54

Dhabi, that would be a big advantage. Oh, for sure, for sure.

0:58

I mean, did you not just see the

1:00

July card that announced in the UK? 3

1:03

a.m., brother. Yeah, that's crazy. It's

1:06

the main card start. So they're

1:08

saying whoever's main headline is fighting at 6 a.m. That's

1:10

crazy. That's insane. You

1:14

know how drunk that audience is going to be. Great. I

1:16

saw, you know what is funny? I saw

1:18

a ton of people that were like, you

1:20

know what is funny? I saw

1:22

a clip, a meme of a video of like

1:25

a UK fan. He's like living in the UK.

1:28

He watched our fight. Our fight just got done. Mine's

1:30

in Justin. He played our clip. And then he was like, great.

1:34

Now I can start my morning. He opened the door.

1:36

It's light out and stuff. I'm like, holy shit. Yeah,

1:38

they have to deal with different. I mean, it's

1:41

funny. The American pay-per-view time schedule

1:43

just trumps everything. Oh, yeah.

1:45

I mean, crazy. I guess we're

1:47

the ones who buy it the most. I

1:50

wonder what the numbers are in the rest of the world. I

1:53

think UK is another hotspot,

1:56

right? And in UK, big? Yeah, it's

1:58

pretty big. There are some fight- fans

2:00

to be doing that every once

2:02

a month. They're planning a,

2:04

there's a pay-per-view card and they're like, look honey, 3

2:07

a.m. I'm probably

2:09

gonna be screaming so please don't, don't

2:11

divorce me. Pretty awesome. Yeah,

2:14

you just gotta get one tolerant wife and

2:16

never everybody go over to that house. Yeah,

2:18

be like, hey guys, or you get the single friend.

2:21

You know that one of the guys that he did single,

2:23

you don't have nothing going on, he's like, yeah, you come

2:25

to my house. Yeah, that's perfect.

2:28

So what has it been like for you after

2:30

300? I

2:32

mean, it seems like, I think

2:36

for whatever reason, people

2:39

go through phases of their career

2:43

and with some fighters, if

2:45

a fighter gets a loss or two, they

2:47

start to think that that fighter's started to

2:49

decline. Uh-huh, uh-huh. And with

2:52

you, I think some people had written

2:54

you off. Oh brother. For some strange

2:57

reason. Oh brother, I heard it.

2:59

I don't get it. I heard the noise. I heard it, I

3:01

heard the noise. I'm like, listen, he's only 32, right, 32, right?

3:05

Yeah, yeah, exactly. He's only 32,

3:07

that's athletic prime. I'm like, there's

3:09

no beatings, there's no knockouts, there's

3:12

no decline in the expression

3:14

of skills inside the octagon. Everything

3:17

looks the same and better

3:19

every fight. You know what the problem

3:21

is? The problem is that I got, these guys got to

3:23

see me grow up. I got in the USC when I

3:25

was 20. 20 years old. A lot

3:27

of people think I'm DC's old ass. Like

3:30

42 years old or something, you know what

3:32

I mean? And then I'm like, brother, I'm

3:34

not DC. I've been calling out DC, but

3:36

I'm a young guy, you know? Just because

3:38

I've been harassing his potato-looking butt. Like, come

3:40

on, his bag of potato-looking ass. You two

3:42

together are hilarious. Brother, I love that guy.

3:45

I love that guy. I love that man.

3:47

He's the best. A lot of

3:49

guys just think I'm old because I've been fighting since I was

3:51

20. And it wasn't, and it's not like

3:53

I've been fighting 20. I've been fighting since

3:55

I was 20 and I fought a who's

3:57

who in my opinion, you know?

4:00

Best in the world since you were 20

4:02

years old just past teenager. Yeah, so like especially

4:04

with the you know, it's a vote fight you

4:07

know, it's like That

4:09

the first two fights is or was the right in

4:11

that third fight is what made everybody go. Oh, he's

4:13

done for I'm like brother Like that was his folks

4:15

night. He was on yeah, I mean like it is

4:17

what it is Everybody's like, oh,

4:19

yeah, look look at maxi He

4:22

vogue just did this and now they're

4:24

doing MMA Matt cuz Ilya did that

4:26

to Vulcan Even with Ilya doing

4:28

MMA math, I beat a guy that beat you did I'm like

4:30

brother. This is not how it works I lost to Dustin

4:32

Dustin just got knocked out from from Justin

4:34

and now what the now can I say

4:36

I beat Dustin now? No, he's right. Yeah,

4:38

you know styles make fights. So it's also

4:40

do look what happens in camp What what

4:43

kind of condition are you coming into the

4:45

fighting? Did you are you fighting injured? How

4:47

did yeah? Did you just fight Islam? Akacham

4:49

and get head kicked? I mean,

4:51

that's a big factor man That was

4:53

crazy, you know a lot of people was giving me a

4:56

shit when Cuz this one talked about

4:58

our fight about me and Justin saying was useless fire

5:00

whatever and I'm like Bro,

5:02

like if you took the fight in February

5:04

when like you showed up cuz you came

5:07

on clean I think so Justin woulda

5:09

woulda fought you you know But like how the

5:11

hell is someone that you just knocked like

5:13

that was a scary knockout brother Like that was a

5:15

scary knockout ass knock on and that guy turning around

5:17

and cover my like bro You know, you supposed to

5:19

get hit for that long, right? And then now you're

5:21

doing a camp even if you're okay, so you do

5:23

a camp you don't spar our camp, right? But

5:26

then you stick training hard or whatever and

5:28

like maybe you just accidentally fall over bump

5:30

your head on something You know or like you're scratching your

5:32

head, you know, are you screaming or something? Could you stress

5:35

it out? You know, I'm like, I don't know what could

5:37

happen but Without it you have

5:39

to have a long time. Yeah, I can't I mean

5:41

look at Justin I just saw Justin

5:43

finally doing interviews of this fight and he just

5:45

said like I'm not doing nothing for six months

5:47

Mm-hmm like nothing and I'm like bro, that's smart.

5:49

You know Marquez knocked out Manny Pacquiao Freddie Roach

5:51

made him wait a year One

5:54

year one year that's crazy. So you got to

5:56

really heal up. That was a bad knockout, bro.

5:59

You only got I remember it

6:02

was you that talked about it, that talked about our

6:04

brain. This is like a long time ago when you're

6:06

talking about the cotton candy thing in your brain and

6:08

how it's how once that

6:10

disappear, you don't, that shit don't grow back,

6:12

right? Exactly. And I remember watching that, it

6:15

was a long time ago. I didn't know

6:17

how many years that was ago and that

6:20

really meant a lot and everybody keep telling me

6:22

like, oh man, you get hit so much and blah blah,

6:24

this and that. I'm like, yeah, okay in the fight. You

6:26

might see me get hit, but I'm not, I'm not, I'm

6:28

not sparring, you know? I'm like, I'm not sparring, I'm

6:30

being sparred. This doesn't get you on brother. I'm just

6:32

going to the gates of hell. We had to bring

6:35

back sparring. You know what I mean? Like

6:37

I was, I was ready to be

6:39

a crash dummy against, we, I told my coach,

6:41

look, this is a man that is very dangerous.

6:43

We need to get in, we need to get it

6:46

in the through the thick of it and get it

6:48

done. So we bring back sparring for this one, but

6:50

it still wasn't, it still wasn't crazy, you know? It

6:52

wasn't crazy. Like we had a hard days out far

6:54

outside of camp, like outside of camp and it was

6:56

fun. Then we kind of toned it out, but getting

6:59

ready for adjusting gates, you had to, but then

7:01

with, with your brain health, you need to protect

7:03

your brain. You know what I mean? Like there's

7:05

so much movies like on concussions and the movie

7:08

concussion and, and we have so much, what

7:11

is it, information now about the brain and how

7:13

you can help yourself and how you can mentally

7:16

and physically help yourself get better and help the brain

7:18

out. So why, why not use that? You know, a

7:20

lot of people call me crazy. A lot of people,

7:22

I keep hearing the talk about his chain gotta go

7:24

this time. His chain, like when the hell is my

7:26

chain? My chain was supposed to go the last 20

7:28

fights. You know what I mean? Like, what

7:31

are you guys talking about? You know? Yeah, it's ridiculous.

7:33

Someone either has a good chain or they don't have

7:35

a good chain. Yeah, but you, you're not getting hit

7:37

clean a lot. One of the things that you do

7:39

a lot is you, you roll with shots. You're

7:42

very good at rolling with shots. When you're getting

7:44

hit, you're getting hit and I see you turning

7:46

your face. I see you taking

7:48

some steam off of a lot of shots and

7:51

your style is so it's,

7:53

it's, it's a fun style to watch,

7:56

but it's also a nightmare to deal

7:58

with. You're switching stances. You're

8:01

constantly cutting angles like the

8:03

volume that you put on Justin like when Justin was

8:05

having a hard time catching to you It

8:08

was it was very evident early on that you were

8:10

on it But it was one of

8:12

those fights where it's like damn Justin with one punch

8:14

can fuck people up It's just

8:16

like avoiding that one punch and then we start

8:18

tuning him up then he dropped you he

8:21

dropped Third

8:24

third or fourth round I forget It

8:27

didn't cause a drop which is crazy and I

8:29

mean like a lot of people it didn't count

8:31

no it didn't so it's also like there's that

8:34

ESPN is like Posting and

8:36

saying like in however many fights him

8:38

with the USC right I stayed didn't

8:40

get dropped. That's some bullshit Good

8:44

does it down? Yeah, I'll be I mean, but I'm

8:46

not I'll be a man to sit here be I

8:48

wouldn't be a man sitting here telling you that I

8:50

did bro Bro, I remember getting hit

8:52

by that punch and then like I

8:55

I sat and then I came back up. I was like

9:00

Shit I was like that was a good punch and

9:02

then when I rewatched it He hit me like right

9:04

on the top of my my dome I was like,

9:06

oh these smack brother this guy this guy smacks and

9:08

then I was fine as soon as I got it

9:10

Was one of those like boom, you know, like the

9:12

lady's give out the latest give all like I was

9:15

there even when I was standing I was looking at

9:17

him, but that dad I don't know

9:19

how that didn't come to the drop, but I don't

9:21

know what they call it as a drop because that

9:23

has to count Yeah, yeah, that was that was crazy.

9:25

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like, did you ever see Ilya Toporia when

10:54

he fought Jai Herbert? Yeah, yeah,

10:56

yeah. I saw that. I saw that. I

10:58

saw the fight. But then when people

11:00

was, when he was talking about fighting and

11:02

we was fighting and saying, and he was,

11:04

he said something about dropping me or killing

11:06

me and then I see the comments

11:09

of him getting that, that hit, that left-hand kick

11:11

getting dropped. So I was like, oh yeah, I

11:13

didn't see the fight but I saw that part

11:15

happen. It was an amazing comeback because he knocked

11:17

him out in the second round but man, he

11:19

could take a shot because he got hit so

11:21

clean with a switch kick off the left side,

11:23

right shin to the chin, just perfect. I mean,

11:25

it was just whack. And then his whole body

11:28

just goes out and then he grabbed a hold of a single, check

11:30

this out, watch this. Boom! I mean, dude,

11:32

watch the head snap back. Look at the head

11:34

snap back. I mean, that is just shin to

11:36

the chin. That is just

11:38

a perfect Jai Herbert head kick. But he

11:40

grabbed a hold of him and he managed

11:43

to maintain his composure, got him to the

11:45

ground, survives the round and actually was winning

11:47

the rest of the round. I was ready

11:49

too, look, four minutes. He did

11:51

a lot of wrestling. He did a lot of wrestling. He's

11:53

a very complete fighter. Yeah, he's very good, bro. He's very

11:55

good. And his fucking

11:58

boxing, man, his boxing. Terrifying

12:00

I Was I was

12:03

shocked at Volk wanted to

12:05

take that fight so quickly after the

12:08

mock-chip fight? And if I

12:10

was his friend, I would have not recommended that but

12:12

I don't know if you could talk to him I

12:14

mean, he's a champion you Yeah,

12:16

there's dudes like that is like Mike we can do

12:18

it Mike But

12:23

the human body It's

12:25

a the vulnerabilities of the

12:27

human body are real despite the spirit of

12:30

the man. Yeah Damage

12:34

the spirit you you still have

12:36

something your brain your muscles It's it

12:38

hurting so it's going to only protect

12:40

itself when you feel something When

12:42

there's a warning sign going off like old man warning

12:45

did it shut off because it's like look I'm gonna

12:47

save me from myself Like

12:49

that's what Connor fought Dustin the last time

12:51

he had a broken shit Yeah, he's his

12:53

leg was broken already. It was a factor.

12:55

Yep Yeah, he had a fracture going into

12:58

that fight and he knew it and the

13:00

body's gonna Your body's gonna give

13:02

up You know no matter how strong the wheel is

13:04

think about like what that cost him a lot

13:07

two years two years two years And

13:09

who knows where he could have been if

13:11

he hadn't taken that fight and he left

13:13

look it's only eight weeks Yeah, but you

13:15

got a stress fracture like that. It's like

13:17

eight weeks and it's healed right because it's

13:19

not all the way through That's

13:22

crazy. It could have healed it and then

13:24

you know and you see Did

13:27

move mountains for that man? Why not?

13:29

I don't know if they knew it

13:31

was a fracture though It definitely was

13:33

but they I think they have done

13:35

MRIs on it. It was inconclusive turn

13:37

out Oh, but it was badly hurt.

13:39

Yeah, you know you've had bone

13:41

bruise. Yeah Yeah, were you like I don't know if

13:44

this is broken. You got to get it looked at

13:46

yeah Yeah, yeah, they suck no they heard bro. They're

13:48

about how was your left shin brother? It's

13:51

all right now, but they hurt bro. I saw the but to

13:53

talk about it much, bro It's got kick-hardy

13:55

shit. Yeah, and his bow with the way his

13:57

bones. I don't know what it was made out

13:59

of I think with titanium like

14:02

I like to say my my chin is made out

14:04

of vibranium brother He had a vibranium leg, bro. I

14:06

was like he went to Wakanda too. I was thinking

14:08

to myself like how I

14:11

only got to go to Wakanda. I guess he went

14:13

too, you know But you know

14:15

at the end of the day, but it hurt like

14:17

I still my my shins did bruise It was good.

14:19

I can move I move it whatever is like stiff

14:21

after a fight in there A lot of people always

14:23

I always hear you talk about in there and be

14:25

like oh yeah, it hurts I don't really feel it

14:27

like I don't pay too much mind to it in

14:29

in the fight Mm-hmm, I I can

14:31

feel when he hits it and it's like

14:33

oh, I'm telling myself that's gonna hurt later

14:36

But you got 25 minutes, you know, we got to stay

14:38

in here, you know And it's what's

14:40

interesting is it doesn't seem to compromise your

14:42

movement that much It depends entirely upon the

14:44

person like some people get calf kicked once

14:46

real hard And it swells up

14:48

and you see immediately they're walking fucked up and

14:50

they're trying to switch South's ball They're

14:53

trying to switch dances, but you don't

14:55

seem to have as much of a problem with

14:57

it. Yeah, I was it wasn't really a problem

14:59

I know it hurts I know is gonna be

15:01

hurt after the fight But then even that like

15:03

switching stances the most craziest thing to me Wow

15:05

Well after getting like completely landed nicely there because

15:07

if I switch that he screwed up to my

15:09

legs I'm gonna do crawl over to it, right?

15:12

You know, I mean, I rather be I

15:14

rather have one leg than two legs messed

15:16

up You know, so and then I think

15:18

you I think you're particularly durable because

15:21

some guys Like you seen what

15:23

happens with pay data He brother a couple

15:25

of times in that leg and that legs

15:27

fucked up man Messed up

15:29

everybody even Jan Bojovic who's

15:32

made out of rocks. Yeah, Jan's like his bones

15:34

are made out of stone Remember when he was

15:36

going with Alkali of he went shin to shin

15:38

with him. Yeah, he was just cracking shins with

15:40

him Fucking his leg up. Yeah, and then a

15:42

guy like bro. Did you see that picture of

15:45

me and Alex? Alex you did you guys

15:47

see the picture of me and Alex? They face swapped them

15:49

No, they put my face on Alex for our to look

15:51

it up brother. He look like Thanos

15:53

bro And money my carnal

15:55

bro money my carnal is like yeah, fuck this guy,

15:58

you know, you're money my time is like fuck

16:00

that guy bro you gotta kill that man money

16:04

mcconner is the funniest guy bro i love

16:06

that guy brother he was like i saw

16:08

on twitter he was like people asking me to

16:10

to fight maxis he's nine and i'm ten or

16:12

something or eight and nine or something like that

16:15

are you fucking crazy he was like i'll fight

16:17

him if we have one rule no punching i

16:21

love money mcconner bro he's a funny dude man

16:23

he almost lost that jaylen turner fight that was

16:26

crazy brother what happened there? jaylen

16:28

turner tried to look cool and get a

16:30

walk off ko and it didn't happen it

16:32

didn't happen you can't do that you gotta

16:34

follow up that was the fight like if

16:36

he beat mcconner man and

16:38

jaylen had him he had him we

16:41

was in i was at the hotel room still watching that

16:43

fight i was watching it

16:45

was watching it and um yeah

16:48

i was tripping out and you know it's funny

16:50

as soon as that as soon as that happened

16:52

i was like i told my coach i was

16:54

like you know what would be funny if money

16:57

what kind of uh comes out and we're niggas

16:59

in the next round and he finishes on the

17:01

next round i was like damn i was like

17:03

whoa it wasn't funny but it was like damn

17:05

that was amazing well jaylen is so long he's

17:08

so dangerous too his knockout power like at length

17:10

he catches guys on the end of shots you

17:12

can't even come close to him and he's cracking

17:14

you and he's got nasty power and

17:17

you know that muy carno

17:19

dude he he's very tough the

17:21

fact that he figured it out he's like fuck

17:23

all this standing i'm gonna grab that dude and

17:25

drag him to the ground smart bro smart yeah

17:27

iq that's by the fight iq bro and i'm

17:29

hard that was oh brother from the beginning from

17:31

the first one bro i had i had uh

17:33

family and friends that came to the fight and

17:35

they went to the first fight cody

17:37

garb ran into the configurator you had to bro

17:40

you had to you had two former world champions

17:42

going at it in the first fight yeah

17:45

that's insane and two guys that are

17:47

still awesome and it was fighting it

17:49

was a fight bro it was a

17:51

fight yeah how crazy was it when he went

17:53

for the handstand kick imagine he landed that kick

17:56

on stuff's face when he went for the

17:58

handstand and then he just Yeah, a

18:00

regular leg kick. Yeah, I almost kicked him

18:02

in the head. That was crazy. Yeah, those

18:04

cartwheel kicks are ridiculous Crazy crazy.

18:06

You gotta set them up, brother You can't be

18:09

just trying to turn them freely like that, you

18:11

know Well Justin tried rolling thunder on you and

18:13

the last round right? I knew I knew he's

18:15

gonna try it I knew it that's what Justin

18:17

known for, you know, so I knew he's gonna

18:19

do it We knew he's gonna do a couple

18:21

stuff. We knew power

18:23

punches leg kicks I

18:26

was thinking if we got later in the

18:28

rounds or if he was getting comfortable He's

18:30

gonna try and do that under the rolling

18:32

thunder kick. So who's ready for it? Yeah,

18:34

he's got this weird ability to kick your

18:36

legs like in a clip close bro. Close.

18:39

Yeah I heard you talking about how

18:41

his hip is so flexible that he can just kick

18:43

he can't bro It was almost like you

18:45

know, it might way right it wasn't a high kick, of

18:48

course But you know what his late kick remind me of

18:50

it reminds me of your year's high kick Like

18:52

me and your year could be nose to nose

18:54

and a fucking kick comes up I'm like, holy

18:56

shit, like he did it to me one time.

18:58

Yeah, and I was like, what like why are

19:00

you guys so flexible? and even like with a

19:03

With Justin with his late kick, bro

19:06

Like some of them is even his angles that he take on

19:08

his kick I'm like, you're not hitting me with this

19:10

and if I can he cracks me his whole

19:12

shin across my knee I'm like what is going

19:15

on? How are you landing? This is like his

19:17

angle is weird, bro He has some weird angles

19:19

for it for sure. Well, he's very unique in

19:21

a lot of ways There's a very unique style

19:24

very unique mentality He's a

19:26

unique guy, but that the leg kicks in the clinch

19:28

when he was what was it was it still PFL

19:30

back I know what you're talking about the one that

19:32

he was in the clinch in the clinch In

19:36

full power. Did he kill that guy? Oh,

19:38

he killed that guy It's horrible to watch

19:41

because you're dealing with the clinch and

19:43

you're thinking all we're just clinching here and

19:45

he's just killing your legs I

19:47

know one. Yeah, like no one can I don't

19:49

know anybody else who kicks the legs from the

19:51

clinch like Justin Gage She does full power Clint,

19:54

you know how you do that heel kick? That's

19:56

what people do. They usually grab that heel and they

19:58

hit it or whatever like this guy's like Jose

20:01

Aldo running late kicking to you. I

20:03

know right? It's insane. Think

20:05

about all the guys you fought Max. I

20:07

mean you have fought the best of the

20:10

best. You fought everybody. Except

20:12

Makachev. There's like everybody of

20:15

your era you fought. Yeah,

20:17

well with the Makachev fight is not not

20:19

too far off. So yeah, you know, I've

20:21

never seen ever. I got a couple more

20:23

years in me for sure. What do you

20:25

think like if you had a plan it

20:27

out? Okay, so here we got Poirier and

20:29

Makachev are fighting. They're fighting next

20:31

and that's gonna be what is that? New

20:33

Jersey? New Jersey. So

20:36

let's say Makachev wins. If Makachev

20:38

wins, well even if Poirier wins. If Poirier

20:40

wins. Bro, if Poirier wins that'd be a

20:42

fun fight. It's a great rematch. We have

20:44

history, you know. Especially at 55. We have

20:46

45. And make it a double

20:48

belt. Brother. I would love that brother. A

20:50

double belt. That'd be crazy. A double belt.

20:53

The double belt. Ever.

20:55

BEMF and the lightweight title on the

20:57

line. That'd be crazy. Wow, that would

21:00

be wild. But even if whoever wins,

21:02

but then I really like. No,

21:04

here's the thing. At 55 you look fantastic.

21:08

You look bigger. You look stronger.

21:10

I'm sure it felt better. Oh yeah,

21:12

it felt good brother. The cut was

21:15

a cut. Don't get me wrong, but it

21:18

was it was beautiful brother. I was eating

21:20

sushi all week. Eating more sushi.

21:22

I eat sushi when I go to 45 too,

21:24

but I was eating more sushi all week. But

21:26

I was loving it. Do you think that that's

21:28

better for you? We see

21:30

what happens, you know. I feel like I still have

21:32

unfinished business at 45. I want to get the time.

21:34

I mean before this fight,

21:37

before this fight, you know,

21:39

we only had like a couple

21:41

options. After this fight, the

21:44

whole main goal with this fight was like just

21:46

to have all the options. That was

21:48

the main, that was the main, that was

21:50

the main time we were going to this

21:52

fight. The mentality was let's have all the

21:54

options. We we put, we go out there.

21:57

We do something spectacular. You know, I'm right up to

21:59

it. there with the top 55ers I'm

22:01

right up I'm I stood out

22:03

of my my spot with the 45ers and then

22:06

I nailed to my surprise

22:08

after the fight they announced a Connor

22:10

Connor versus Chandler fight so it's like

22:12

me and Connor have some history so there's

22:15

options you know and they're

22:17

talking about doing something at 65 I know

22:19

DC's been saying this I don't know what he knows

22:21

I haven't pressed him I'm sure DC knows something that

22:23

guy when he talks about stuff when he knows yeah

22:26

clever yeah he tries

22:29

to do a DC acts about that I you

22:31

know DC even you call a lot of

22:33

fights with him you know him as a person he

22:35

don't talk about nothing unless he knows something

22:37

is going on brother it's

22:40

either something yeah it's either he knows

22:42

something going on or he's just bullshitting

22:44

so it's either they say it's one

22:47

or the other yeah he never ever

22:49

plays mid-minute middle exactly with that

22:51

with that you know I mean I know he doesn't bullshit

22:53

but I know he sees other stuff it's like it's

22:55

crazy like because I saw him talking about

22:57

uh the BMF I did you see

23:00

that one with that bit with RC when

23:02

he told RC oh that he should who

23:04

should I was in fight for the BMF

23:06

and I know disrespect him but like come

23:08

on DC what the hell he like he

23:10

did so off offline on that side you

23:12

know yeah he's so out of pocket like

23:14

calling that you know well he's out of

23:17

pocket because he's just so biased towards wrestling

23:19

yeah he wants he's like there's been no

23:21

takedowns in the BMF fight like I think

23:23

that's what a beam belt is you know

23:25

well they can be take downs if it

23:27

happens but it you know just have it

23:29

just because you want takedowns bring a wrestler

23:31

in yeah that belt is a special belt

23:34

you know it's it's it's a wild belt

23:36

it's like it is well it's wild it's

23:38

wild these wild fights that's why you know

23:40

you know it's funny like a lot of

23:42

them it's funny cuz I see a lot

23:44

of these guys these MMA guys

23:46

guys some guys who's just like even

23:48

doing MMA I see everything brother from

23:50

like low-level MMA guys that's trying to

23:53

come up to mid to high and

23:55

I and before this fight everybody was

23:57

shitting on the BMF whatever blah blah

23:59

and And now that I

24:01

got it, I'm happy to see that it's actually

24:03

getting its worth. You know what I mean? At

24:05

the end of the day, everybody's saying, oh, no

24:07

undisputed. Well, I was undisputed champion. I have the

24:09

BMF belt now. What is it? You

24:11

cannot tell. Well, I'm fighting number one contenders

24:13

and keep fighting the number one and champions. Now

24:15

you tell me what it is. You know, at

24:17

the end of the day, the belt was cool

24:20

and I always tell everybody, the belt is cool, but you

24:22

guys got to understand what

24:24

brings with the belt, what the emotions

24:27

it brings and what kind of fight it

24:29

brings to a card, you know, like that

24:31

our fight, a lot of people were saying could have

24:33

been the main event of 300. A hundred percent.

24:35

You know what I mean? So it's insane,

24:37

you know? A hundred percent. And the crazy

24:39

thing is there was two insane fights after

24:41

your fight. Your fight was so good that

24:43

two insane world title fights afterwards. And it

24:45

happened after, yeah. And still people talk about

24:48

your fight. And I feel so bad for the

24:50

girls because I was watching that fight in the

24:52

back after doing my media. And

24:54

it was such a crazy fight, brother. But

24:57

I think so people was just, they just had a

24:59

adrenaline dump because of what happened in the last fight,

25:01

you know? I lost my voice. Bro,

25:04

I lost my voice. I really did. I've never

25:06

lost my voice ever at a UFC fight. But

25:08

when you dropped him, it was the first time

25:10

I ever stood up. I couldn't sit

25:12

down. I was standing up. I

25:14

was just like, oh! I saw you stand

25:16

up. That was the first time I saw

25:18

you. It was just what? Dana had the

25:20

greatest quote in the post fight press conference.

25:22

He said, I sell holy shit moments. When

25:25

people ask me, what do I do for

25:27

a living? Look at this. I

25:29

couldn't even sit down. I had to get

25:31

up. I had to hold on to

25:33

those guys. I'm holding on to them. That

25:36

was awesome. It was funny

25:38

when they started putting cameras on us because

25:40

we've been doing that forever. Like DC and I

25:43

go crazy. We hug each other. We go nuts.

25:45

When something crazy happens, it's like, what? What?

25:48

I'm glad. I'm glad they did

25:51

because to see fans and reactions to

25:53

the fight is cool. They're fans.

25:55

But then when you see our peers and

25:57

guys like you and other fighters

26:00

and commentators of the sport that you've

26:02

been around forever. So to see

26:04

you do that, that was like, that brings

26:06

like humongous ass smiles to my face. Like

26:08

holy shit, I didn't mean to do a

26:10

roving stand out, stand out, you know? I

26:12

say to this day, and I do it

26:14

based on my reaction, obviously this is personal.

26:16

I say it's the greatest knockout of all

26:18

time. The reason why I say it's the

26:21

greatest knockout of all time is because everybody

26:23

thought that Justin was going to be overpowering

26:25

you. He was a bigger guy. He had

26:27

just knocked out Dustin Poirier. You had lost

26:29

the last fight to Volkanovskiy. You hadn't been

26:31

entitled contention since then. You had a bunch

26:33

of great wins, but here you're going to

26:35

fight this bigger guy and all these people

26:38

are writing you off. All these people were

26:40

saying that it did. And you're tuning him

26:42

up and you did have to overcome getting

26:44

knocked out and you did have adversity. You

26:46

had to deal with that leg. And then

26:48

for you to stand, winning four rounds to

26:50

one in the middle of the octagon, pointing at

26:53

the ground with 10 seconds left, and then to

26:55

knock him out with one second left, the way

26:57

I reacted, the way I jumped up, I've never

26:59

done that before. Even when Leon

27:01

Edwards knocked out Usman, that was another crazy one. Before

27:03

that, I would have said that was the greatest knockout

27:06

of all time because he was down. He

27:08

was down four rounds and John Anick just had

27:10

the perfect call. He said that is not the

27:12

cloth from which he is coming. And then boom,

27:14

yeah. And then boom, he's like it's a movie.

27:17

So that was number one before, but you are number

27:19

one now. Thank you brother. That's number one.

27:23

Impact all time, like complete polar shift

27:25

of how people think about the BMF

27:27

belt. They don't think about it as

27:29

a gimmick at all. Yeah. Yeah.

27:32

Because it was the wildest crazy fight

27:34

with an undeniable number one contender in

27:36

Justin versus you. It's wild how it

27:38

happened. Yeah. The whole thing was

27:40

wild. I mean, you only

27:43

as good as your last fight, right? That's

27:45

what it is. This sport, I

27:47

like to tell everybody, you know, this is not

27:49

like basketball. This is not this is

27:51

not like baseball or like hockey where you

27:54

can just shut the bed on a Tuesday and then you

27:56

come back out on a Friday and then you you're just

27:58

a man of the world again. You know like you shit

28:01

like like this stuff happen you have a

28:03

bad fight like with Alex that fight Don't

28:05

get erased off until I have something great and even

28:07

if you have a good fight You know I mean

28:09

like I had a good fight with Arnold But they said like

28:12

Alex you did that and then I did it with Korean song

28:14

and then I had a knock out Knock all

28:16

over Korean zombie, and then they're like

28:18

yeah But Korean is old and blah blah blah and

28:20

then finally now a discussion now everybody forgets You know

28:22

like it takes us a while to make them forget

28:24

about your last fight You know so it

28:27

was this it was amazing bro You know like

28:29

to see everybody go crazy like in

28:31

my mind like a lot of people ask me What's going through your

28:33

mind when you're doing that you're up for one? I'm like

28:35

brother that was in my mind the whole time. I'm like

28:39

Seconds I was like I remember calling I

28:41

remember being a minute I remember my coach

28:43

yelling a minute max stay clean and then

28:45

I was like oh hell Yeah, 50

28:47

more seconds at two we go to the extent and we're

28:49

gonna swing in my mind and then he's like 40 seconds

28:52

I was like holy shit this clock is slow I

28:54

mean I'm like why is it taking

28:56

forever? Then he's like calling does like

28:58

30 seconds, and then he's like okay 20

29:00

seconds And he does and he goes

29:03

he got right after the 20 seconds mark

29:05

underneath couple seconds after He does

29:07

his rolling thunder And then it pushed me

29:09

to a point of perfectly circle out and and

29:11

that's when I said I did the like oh

29:14

come here You know let's go here. Let's do it

29:16

cuz that was just everybody's losing their mind, but

29:18

in news to me I just this is normal. Yeah, this

29:20

is a second time I did it

29:22

you know of course the second time I'm doing it

29:24

I heard you guys say if it the first time

29:26

was a Ricardo, but they ain't no Justin Justin

29:29

gagee you know but you know why

29:31

not why not if he was to put

29:33

if he was gonna put me out then

29:36

Then so be it you know live by the

29:38

sword well It was a wild and there's a

29:40

rolling done to damn that was a nice rolling

29:42

thunder. That was nice. It was close Now

29:46

right here. Oh, this is so crazy max

29:51

That was crazy. Yeah, it's the greatest

29:53

it has to be the greatest knock out it

29:55

has to be and

30:04

then you flex and walk

30:06

around come on man that's the greatest

30:09

they got the sickest picture of me bro

30:11

they had the sickest picture of me when

30:13

I'm flexing and I'm over I like I

30:15

love Justin bro I freaking love the man

30:18

but they have like that you

30:20

know like the Muhammad the Muhammad Ali picture yeah yeah

30:22

they got a moment of me like that so I

30:24

got a painting for you I told you I got

30:26

a broad veins he's an amazing artist he made an

30:28

incredible painting and it's it's on the way I had

30:30

someone go back to my house go grab it sick

30:33

it's on the way but yeah

30:35

that was a there's a wild

30:37

moment man it's a complete shift

30:40

of what people care about in

30:42

upcoming fights like you are the

30:44

fucking man now whatever whatever

30:47

next page of you you're in

30:49

holy shit that's gonna be big

30:51

and if it's you in Makachav

30:53

or if it's you and Ilya

30:55

you and Ilya would be crazy

30:57

brother brother so much so

31:00

much fun brother I know I know that Spain

31:02

is that 305 when is

31:04

uh they're gonna be UFC Perth is 305

31:06

right I don't think they're gonna go Spain

31:08

this year I don't think they can I

31:10

think so they know I'd said it uh

31:12

sit in the in the 300 conference

31:15

after fight conference he said that uh we're

31:18

going with Spain it just takes a time because

31:20

you got to book something and it's like

31:22

gonna be like a year now good that

31:24

fights yeah yeah yeah I hope Vegas

31:28

or Madison Square Garden yeah or

31:30

or or Vegas

31:33

Legion Stadium Oh

31:35

66,000 brother

31:37

that's what it is did you

31:39

use their 300 night but did

31:41

you not see all the Hawaiian flags they were

31:43

everywhere that's the said that night island brother

31:47

give me you can't you we can't go

31:49

to UFC Hawaii give me

31:51

a Legion Stadium and that's that's

31:53

that's good go crazy there oh

31:56

my god you can tell it a

31:58

Legion Stadium for a big UFC 100%

32:00

they could sell it. I mean every UFC sells out

32:03

like that. They sell out so quick I'll tell you

32:05

kids in a fight like that Especially if they put

32:07

together a banger of a card because you know, they're

32:09

doing the sphere which is gonna be wild Yeah, that's

32:12

gonna be why we think we think we'll be in

32:14

the sphere. That's a good

32:16

question Right, cuz that's isn't it? It's Mexican

32:18

Independence Day Yes,

32:21

it's September yeah, well, I don't

32:23

think they have it set up like who Mexicans

32:25

like to call me as their own So

32:27

I might even be in the sphere who know? They

32:30

count you yeah for your style. Yeah. Yeah.

32:32

Fuck. Yeah. Yeah What

32:35

a crazy night max. What a crazy night and To

32:39

have that happen again, like where there's

32:42

two amazing fights after yours. Oh, yeah, and everybody

32:44

still just talked about your yeah I know I

32:46

was I mean even with the I Remember

32:49

as soon as the fight happened, you know a

32:51

couple minutes after My

32:54

my agent Tim Simpson came in and he told

32:56

me he's like brother They just put

32:58

your knock out on top of on top of Instagram on

33:01

and YouTube and everything. I was like what he never do

33:03

that Yeah, there's like they never did that. They only did

33:05

this for it They only did it for sugar and I

33:07

was like what this is crazy So we saw I thought

33:09

it was lying, you know, and they saw it was there

33:12

three different angle and I reposted Yeah, I was like if

33:14

you have seen posting this I'm putting this shit, too For

33:19

the craziest angle is the one when they They

33:22

pause me and then they do a 360 view

33:24

and then they play it again. I'm like, that's

33:27

That's insane, bro. Yeah What

33:30

does it feel like when it's all over does it feel

33:32

like a dream? Like what does it feel like when it's

33:34

over brother? I see it I you know, like I

33:36

stood I'm still getting used to it. I

33:38

don't even know, you know, I feel normal I said life

33:40

stay normal, but like I'm getting brother walking down the

33:42

6th Street last night to get my dinner I was

33:45

gonna a rat Like not

33:47

a rat like nicely rasp. So like people

33:49

like yeah, yeah, you're getting I always get noticed

33:51

But like these guys like it's uh, it's out

33:53

in about way more, you know And so it's

33:56

just a mate bro, even like guys who don't even look

33:58

like they watch fighting, you know, grandma's grandpa's at

34:00

the airport saying, hey, you're the guy. Yeah,

34:02

I'm like, yeah, I'm the

34:04

guy. Well, that clip got so viral, too.

34:06

You know, that clip was so viral. It

34:09

was everywhere. It was TikTok and YouTube. It

34:11

was everywhere. Yeah, bro, we, my,

34:13

so one of the, my other agent on our

34:15

team, Daniel, he did like, he's like a numbers

34:17

guy or whatever. And the

34:19

Google, the Google search on me was

34:21

like crazy, bro. I think so. I

34:24

think so. It was in like the billion.

34:26

Like after, after I was insane, it was something stupid. I

34:28

was like, oh, wow. I didn't even know you could look

34:30

that up. I told him. Yeah, that's

34:32

what makes it very interesting for your

34:35

next fight because your

34:37

next fight is going to be huge. It's

34:39

going to be huge. Like you're a fucking bonafide superstar

34:42

now. Like your next fight is going to be nuts.

34:45

Can't wait, bro. Can't wait. I

34:47

don't know who it is, who it was, what, what the UFC want to do. But

34:50

like you said, that option

34:52

brought in this game, you all have any options

34:54

and there's so many options in your area too.

34:56

Right? And you guys have

34:58

been talking about fighting to Poria at 45 or show

35:01

his willing to fight to Poria 45. He's

35:03

going to fight Max at 45. Right?

35:05

Yeah. Yeah. Crazy.

35:09

There's crazy match ups all over the place in a

35:11

perfect world. You actually in a perfect world. You

35:13

know what I mean? Yeah. In

35:15

a perfect world. If I could have in my way, I'd

35:18

be stupid to not say to fight

35:21

Connor. You know, I think that Connor fight would

35:23

be huge, whatever, but we don't know what he's

35:25

going to do. If that's out in a perfect

35:27

world to me, it would be fight

35:29

Elia 45 title, get my hand raised

35:33

and whoever's the next guy up at 55

35:35

fight them, try and go for double champ

35:37

status, whatever it is, or even

35:39

treat belts, you know, like 45 the BMF and

35:41

then put it, put the BMF in the 55

35:44

against whoever had 55 and I'd be, that'd be

35:46

surreal. You know, I think that'd be a crazy,

35:48

crazy option too. If they really do this Connor

35:50

165 title, there's

35:52

an option of you being a three champ. That'd be insane.

35:55

If they didn't one 65, we fun. That'd be fun. You'd

35:57

have to cut anyway. You

36:00

eat sushi every day. I would eat sushi every day.

36:03

I would eat sushi every day. On

36:05

the scale. What is your walk around? Wait,

36:08

what's right now? Me right now. I

36:10

walk around like before

36:12

I used to get into a big boy, but now I walk around like

36:14

70, 75, nothing crazy. Oh, that's not

36:16

too crazy. Yeah, nothing crazy. Nothing crazy. I

36:19

was in there against, they make us check

36:21

our weight now. And I

36:23

was only 172 when we went

36:25

in against Geichi. When you were fighting

36:27

at featherweight, what did you win when

36:30

you fought? I would be around like

36:32

65. I would get a high 60s, maybe 68 at the highest.

36:36

So did you, I know you did

36:38

a lot of strength and conditioning. Your YouTube channel is great

36:40

by the way. Oh, thank you. And it's

36:42

really cool how you document pretty much everything. You're showing all

36:44

your training, all the different stuff. So you did a lot

36:46

of strength and conditioning. We did a lot of strength. We

36:48

did a lot of strength. So a lot of people was

36:51

talking about matching Geichi

36:53

strength. And

36:55

our team didn't want to. We wanted to

36:57

be strong, but we still wanted to be

36:59

fast. We knew we was faster than Geichi.

37:01

So our main focus, everybody thought it was

37:03

strength and getting big to be strong and

37:05

to, of course, endure his strikes. But the

37:08

main thing that we wanted to focus on

37:10

was speed. I knew I could outgun them.

37:13

In the fit round, when we really hurt them, hurt them.

37:15

I outgunned them with speed. I hit them with five hits.

37:19

And the one that you don't see hurt you the most.

37:21

And the last right hand in that little combination early in

37:23

the fit round is what hurt them the most. I

37:27

stunned them a little bit. So we were

37:29

just working on speed rather. We

37:31

had 12 weeks. You really can't.

37:34

I wasn't willing to put strength to give up

37:36

conditioning. So I was like, I'm going to be

37:38

speed and conditioned. And that's the way I

37:40

fight. If

37:42

you go look at it, a lot of people is looking at

37:44

stats, reminding his fight of how much he's

37:47

chosen strikes and how much I throw in strikes, how

37:49

much he gets hit, which is less than how much

37:51

I get hit. And I was like, brother, that cannot

37:53

be right. And then the stats is, you know? And

37:56

I'm like, no way. And then when you look

37:58

at the stats, this guy had 12 fights. like

38:00

20 plus fights in the UFC. That's what come

38:02

our stats is so close to each other because

38:04

I have so much more fights than his.

38:07

And then even that, I had a lot of time

38:09

in the octagon and he just didn't

38:11

because he would knock guys out. You know

38:13

what I mean? He had that beautiful power.

38:15

So, you know, at the end of the day, like, you

38:17

know, the number, some of the numbers that these guys were putting

38:19

out there, I was like, brother, you guys need to do your

38:21

homework. You know, you need to stop looking at

38:23

the surface level and like start digging deep into

38:25

it. Yeah. It was

38:28

interesting the way you just said about strength

38:30

and conditioning. You're not willing to give up

38:32

conditioning for strength. So

38:35

how did you approach that? Like when you made a

38:38

decision to go to 55, so

38:40

the Poirier fight, you go to 55, but

38:42

you did it on pretty short notice, right?

38:44

Yeah, we had like, so

38:46

the way we train is I always take two weeks off

38:49

before a fight. So it was like six weeks. And then

38:51

so we actually had four weeks to train for them. And

38:53

I was like, I mean, put

38:55

up the picture of Poirier punching me

38:57

in my face. There's a famous picture of Poirier

38:59

punching my face. Explain that. When you said you

39:01

take two weeks off before the fight, what do

39:03

you mean? So like, like strength and

39:05

conditioning. So I don't do no strength and conditioning

39:07

like the week before the fight. Like maybe we

39:09

do like a little lift or whatever, but it's

39:11

just something you maintain. Like you can't get faster

39:14

or stronger two weeks before a fight or even

39:16

a week, right? So even with cardio, it's not

39:18

gonna, anything I do the week before the fight, it's

39:20

not gonna help me. And anything I do the week of

39:22

the fight, it's not gonna help me. All the hard work is

39:24

done. And that's what these

39:26

guys, look how fat I was. Look

39:29

at that top right one, that top right one right there. Look

39:32

how fat I was, yeah, look at that. That's

39:34

muffin top max, brother. So

39:37

you did. And he zooms in, wow. Wow,

39:39

you're an asshole, huh? So

39:44

you only had four weeks and there's no way you

39:46

could put on that amount of muscle in four weeks.

39:49

Or anything, you know, and I was like, and

39:51

I didn't have my beautiful wife at

39:53

the time. So, you know, he meals

39:56

was crazy before. I ate out every

39:58

night. I was terrible. And

40:00

I see Christian I see keep keeps me clean so

40:02

it is what it is. You know I hate using

40:04

experience Excuses cuz you know

40:06

Dustin I came out there and fought hard and we

40:09

fought hard I ain't taking nothing away from Dustin so

40:12

Whatever I did was on me And you know

40:14

it if that fight if we

40:16

get a third one then that I think would

40:18

be a pretty fun one Oh, it'd be amazing

40:20

that would be wild a third fight between you

40:22

guys be wild especially if he beats Islam if

40:24

he beats Islam That'd be great. Yeah. Yeah, I

40:26

want to know burn. Oh, how much is the

40:28

how much is the odds? I'm betting on him

40:30

dropping a ghillie He's

40:33

gonna try You

40:35

know I didn't know that he was

40:37

referencing William Montgomery the comedian when I

40:39

ain't never gonna stop over That's what

40:41

he's doing. Yeah, we were gonna from

40:43

Kill Tony. I didn't know and

40:45

I'm a friends with William Montgomery I love that dude,

40:48

and you're not a good friend And you know what

40:50

that you know I felt like a bad friend But

40:52

it really what it is is like when I'm doing

40:54

an interview after such a crazy fight like that You

40:58

interviews are complicated. You're locked in bro. I'm trying

41:01

to get this guy to express himself as

41:03

much as possible I'm trying to stay out of

41:05

the way, but I'm also trying to ask questions,

41:07

and so I didn't pick up on it

41:09

Yeah, I didn't I just like no way yeah

41:13

Tony texted me because did he just quote William

41:15

Montgomery like no way really is that what that

41:17

was and then and then Willie text you fuck

41:19

you No,

41:22

they had been going back and forth he apparently

41:24

Dustin told me was gonna say it. Oh yeah,

41:27

yeah, yeah They've been DMing each other

41:29

as awesome. Yeah It's a man now yeah

41:51

One of the good guys in our story Great

41:53

guy he's a great guy. I love

41:55

Dustin. I love Dustin, and I

41:57

was glad for him to get that that win over Ben

42:00

Watson and Denis is a monster. Monster killer bro.

42:02

He's a killer bro. Yeah. That's

42:04

another fight right? Look, St. Denis gets staff. Yeah.

42:07

So you got staff on his forehead, you got to take

42:09

antibiotics, drain. Have you ever had staff? No bro.

42:11

Not really. That's amazing. How

42:13

do you avoid staff? Yeah brother. I'm

42:16

clean I guess. I guess. I guess. Some

42:19

guys are some dirty mother effers I think you

42:21

know. Well you can get staff easy. You can

42:23

get staff easy. No I know. I

42:25

know some guys, I mean once it's

42:27

in your system. You just got to

42:29

get reawakened right? So one

42:32

of our friends, he's pretty bad with it. He's always

42:34

got staff every other week. Oh really?

42:36

Yeah it's terrible. It is terrible. Did

42:38

he take showers? Brother he does everything.

42:40

I don't know what it is. It

42:42

is bad luck I think. Another thing

42:44

is people mistakenly use antibacterial soap. Like

42:47

you don't want antibacterial soap. You want to

42:49

keep your healthy gut floor. I tell everybody,

42:53

I know the guy owns the company. I have no

42:55

affiliation with it but defense soap. If

42:57

you're a grappler it's the shit. Defense

43:00

soap is all natural. It's like tea

43:02

tree oil, eucalyptus oil and he has

43:05

all kinds of products. Everything

43:07

from stuff to clean like wipes if you

43:09

can't like get to a shower quick enough.

43:11

If you know if you're training in a

43:13

place that's kind of dingy and doesn't have

43:15

a shower. They have wipes until you get

43:17

home. They have soaps and ointments. That's the

43:19

most crazy thing bro right? When people like

43:21

I see people like we train and

43:24

then we have a shower at the gym and some of them just

43:26

change their clothes and I got to go. What

43:30

the hell? Did you shower? I said no no

43:32

I got to leave. I was like the hell? No way. I

43:35

live like 45 minutes. Some of them

43:37

live like maybe 15 minutes. Like 15

43:39

minutes is enough for a ringworm or something if

43:41

I can wake up. So it's like brother just

43:44

jump in there and get a rinse off. Yeah

43:46

I've had ringworm. I've had staff twice. I've

43:48

had ringworm a couple of times. It's annoying. It's

43:51

annoying. Our ringworm is irritating. The defense soap is

43:53

the shit. I love everybody. Get

43:55

on that. And it doesn't

43:57

mess up because it's all natural. oil

44:00

and eucalyptus oil and smells good but it

44:02

doesn't fuck up your skin for I had

44:04

it I knew this dude who had ringworm

44:06

and so he started using antibacterial soap and

44:08

he got it everywhere yeah oh yeah right

44:10

over his chest and then what it does

44:12

to it burns your skin yeah so like

44:14

so like when you use that kind of

44:16

stuff with ringworm I remember people used to

44:18

like bleach them and then you'd be bleached

44:20

you'd have a bleached circle yeah it's crazy

44:22

yeah I'm a psycho dude use

44:26

bleach that's a crazy move poor

44:29

bleach on an open wound what the fuck are

44:31

you what are you doing man

44:34

so um so for

44:36

this fight how much notice did you have that

44:38

you were gonna fight at 55 and that you're

44:41

gonna fight Justin brother so there

44:43

is an idea of maybe maybe it doesn't happen

44:45

for a while but we didn't know and then

44:47

we got we got confirmed I think was like

44:49

10 to 12 weeks you know like

44:51

I don't know what it was so like 10 to 12 weeks so

44:53

I was like more than enough time this

44:56

is right yeah we had so much time brother

44:58

we was planning I got the train

45:00

I got to lift I was already we was training

45:02

a lot my last I was in August so

45:04

I was in I was in the

45:06

gym training getting ready brother after the

45:08

vote after the Vulcan is

45:11

on to fight I was like

45:13

there is no way they're letting this guy turn around so

45:15

I really thought they was gonna try and ask me me

45:19

to go fight earlier in January or something

45:21

I went to Toronto I fought

45:23

in Toronto twice I want to intro I defended

45:26

the belt there I have a following in Toronto

45:28

I call it a tent island you know I

45:30

like to call it but I love the Canadians

45:32

well they're literally the best so I was thinking

45:34

like man they would they we're gonna get caught

45:37

you know like there's there's no

45:39

way that he's gonna fight and then he did

45:42

he just moved it from January to February

45:44

they put the other card whatever did they

45:46

switch it around so we

45:48

was I was already training and then

45:50

yeah I couldn't tell you when but I knew

45:53

we had at least 12 weeks at least four weeks when

45:55

did you know that it was gonna be 55 and

45:57

when did you know it was gonna be for the BMF belt 12

46:01

weeks, so had you already

46:03

had a plan to put weight on? Do you

46:05

already had a plan like strength conditioning plan? Oh,

46:07

sure I said as soon as we as soon

46:10

as in the talks of maybe we might even

46:12

fight gachi at all Was like we

46:14

just got a we our plan was what

46:17

I said was like we got to put

46:19

on size to endure damage But then let's

46:21

not lose this speed does my my head

46:23

coach Darren, yeah Patats are gonna trade

46:25

the best training condition in all of Hawaii and if

46:27

somebody got a problem then they can they can meet

46:29

me somewhere anywhere

46:32

But you know jokes aside he's the he's a man bro,

46:34

and he's the one that was like yeah You know like

46:37

I like look I know you want to get strong max

46:39

He's the one that came up with it like I know

46:41

you want to get stronger, but we didn't need your speed,

46:43

bro We didn't need your speed and we

46:45

got our work this guy You know like oh

46:47

he always weaponized my cardio like brother whoever we

46:49

fight you're gonna out work them So

46:51

let's just get your speed up stay fast get

46:53

a little bit bigger without being too much to

46:56

get to it He didn't he

46:58

was a mean one. He's like. I don't want to give up

47:00

strength I don't

47:02

want to give up conditioning for strength, but I

47:04

like because the idea is the more Yeah, you

47:06

have the more endurance. It's gonna require Yeah, and

47:09

especially like even with everybody like I trained with

47:11

bigger guys You know here and there and I

47:13

never ever once felt like holy shit This

47:16

guy's so much stronger than me like I never ever once

47:18

felt that way you know you hear these talks of some

47:20

people saying Oh, this guy's really strong, so I try to

47:22

go with him. I was like yeah, he's alright. You know

47:24

it's not like oh my god He's gonna be strong so

47:26

I so like I Know

47:29

how to fight to my strengths. I guess like yeah

47:32

He might be physically stronger than me But I

47:34

know certain techniques or certain ways to put my

47:36

body That I can get away with

47:38

how strong I am and not making feel as strong

47:40

as he is you know and that's what it is

47:43

You know I keep telling a lot

47:45

of these a lot of these MMA guys

47:47

are just people coming up But even my

47:49

amateur that are amateur fighters that's coming up.

47:51

I just keep telling them like brother There's

47:53

no difference between me and you don't a difference

47:55

is my experience You know like that

47:57

even with even with USC fighters. You know Like

48:00

the only difference between top 15 and top

48:02

10 is experience and their mindset, you know

48:04

top 10 to 5 experience

48:06

mindset 5 to championship same

48:08

thing and then the champion maybe like the top 3

48:11

guys after that is like it's just a mind It's

48:13

a mind thing brother. This shit is easy Most

48:15

of these things that is hard is because

48:17

you make it hard a lot of guys make it

48:19

hard for themselves I'm like, what are you doing? You're

48:21

beating yourself up for what? Did you just fucking practice

48:23

get better? Yeah, I mean, that's all you gotta do

48:25

stuff stuff being yourself up and but you have a

48:28

great mentality for that You're able to like go past

48:30

losses easily is what it is and you keep moving

48:32

and you're on the path But for

48:34

some people like losses are devastating because their whole

48:36

identity is based on yes Yeah, and if they

48:39

don't get success then they feel like they're a

48:41

loser But even with that the whole identity thing

48:43

is that's what it is Like even when like

48:46

you see guys with retiring from other sports or

48:48

our sport like they have that identity crisis because

48:50

they're so Known for one thing

48:52

and that's gonna like tell him like that's what I love

48:54

doing other stuff like people bro Oh my

48:56

god, I stream I stream on kick now. I should

48:58

I'm on kick.com and Brother

49:01

I doing the whole fight. I'm streaming. They're

49:03

like, yep Thank you for

49:06

this max. I'm putting my house on gachi

49:08

now. She's training while you're playing fucking video

49:10

games I'm like what I

49:13

need to be training for 24 hours a

49:15

day like a fucking cyborg or something. What

49:17

the hell? I get it. Yep. Yep. Yep

49:19

you yeah, look at you over here. I

49:21

forget I do slots in there You know

49:23

a guy would like we play funny. Yep.

49:25

Look at you doing this shit losing like

49:27

you're gonna lose your fight, too I'm like

49:30

You can't get a break. Those are just losers Unfortunately,

49:33

I don't mean anything bad to you guys out

49:35

there. But if you're commenting to a guy like

49:38

that, you're a loser There's no

49:40

way you're a winner. It's not possible. It's

49:42

not possible that you're excelling at whatever you

49:44

do No one comes to you like that's

49:47

Mike. He's the best. Yeah, no, no, no,

49:49

you're commenting like that on people You're just

49:51

you're a loser and that's unfortunate. I've been

49:53

a loser in my life, you know, it's

49:56

it's uh, it's common Yeah, it's common, but

49:59

you're a loser And

50:01

winners don't think that way and the idea that a

50:03

guy can't play some video games and unwind while he's

50:06

in the middle of camp You're out of your fucking

50:08

mind. You don't understand. Yeah, brother.

50:10

I say what you're talking about I said like I

50:12

like talking to mighty cuz mighty mean mighty doing any

50:14

of you my body's the best Yeah, he's a man

50:16

and he was just telling me like it's so funny

50:18

cuz every time I tell everybody like fighting is easy

50:21

Like a lot of people looking me crazy. They're like

50:23

what you mean? He's like bro anything you

50:25

do in life is easy Is this

50:27

that you make it hard a lot

50:29

of assholes make it hard for themselves? Like it's

50:31

actually pretty easy, you know, it's like if you

50:33

look at the steps these are the steps Yeah,

50:35

you might fall down in the sense of in

50:38

the sense of actually getting it done It's gonna be

50:40

hard work But it's easy because you know what you got

50:42

to do right and I told mighty when I told my

50:45

neighbor fighting mighty was The first guy ever that said like

50:48

bro, that's why I tell everybody I tell

50:50

fighting is easy I was like, holy shit.

50:52

If the enemy gold is telling you fighting

50:54

is easy. Stop harassing me go harass him

50:56

You know, I mean go tell him he

50:58

said it. I think it's easy for you

51:01

I think it's easy for mighty because you

51:03

guys are real champions You have this champion

51:05

mindset and that's what people need to learn.

51:07

They need to learn a mindset for improvement

51:09

a Mindset for getting better at things and

51:11

a mindset for staying positive 100% that's what

51:13

it's it. That's really what it's about You

51:17

can apply that to anything in life So

51:20

a guy like you that's a champion in

51:22

MMA you could do anything man All you

51:24

need is just like whatever that thing is

51:26

focus on that thing And if you put the

51:28

same kind of attention on that thing that you

51:30

put on your MMA career Oh, yeah, as I

51:32

told I thought everybody I told uh It's

51:36

so funny. You never me and my wife. I was

51:38

like you so lucky. I wasn't a surfer. I would

51:40

have been a world champion surfer I'm

51:44

bad at surfing. Okay, I'm bad. I thought you're

51:46

lucky that I don't put my effort. Yeah, I

51:48

want to be bad Yeah, I'm sure

51:50

and that's a fact. How did you get

51:52

so good at that jump spinning back kick

51:55

brother? Just practice bro. I did anybody show

51:57

you remember the youth Remember me telling you

51:59

it was here. It's a biocrypt about me

52:01

learning strikes in the game. I was learning

52:04

the strikes Yeah, that's one of the strikes

52:06

brother. I saw the strikes in the game

52:08

I was like, hey, bro. Hey, bro through

52:10

it. So it was nice I was like

52:12

with Dustin Kimura, I told him brother we

52:15

need to do this meaning back kick shit Yeah,

52:17

it's just so good and it's a secret weapon

52:19

and and then the thing is funny cuz in

52:22

the game I was throwing it close like a

52:24

lot of people throw it from distance But I

52:26

saw it really close like almost in clinch. That's

52:28

why yeah, yeah, and I told him like bro

52:30

This is gonna be secret weapon. I remember Dustin

52:33

Kimura. He was in the USC for a little

52:35

bit and And I and I was trying to

52:37

make him practice it with me He I remember

52:39

him saying one time like fuck this kick his

52:41

kick is stupid as hell and then we kept

52:43

practicing kept practicing Another

52:47

guy a big guy came down training us and he dropped

52:49

him when it's being back kicked and from the clinch Right,

52:51

and I was like what I told you

52:53

about that. I've told you this fucking kick is a

52:55

secret weapon How are you practicing it close up? What's

52:57

the drill? We huge just stand close I was like

52:59

bro Like I was I'll get my timing from from

53:02

it being a distance first and then we'd be like

53:04

living closer and be like bro We got all we

53:06

got to focus on is bringing our knee up and

53:08

and then pushing it out at the last second The

53:10

main thing was just bring your knee up

53:12

and snapping your head around snap your head around first

53:14

See where you're gonna land so you don't kick each

53:17

other in the freaking groin area because it happens

53:19

a couple times Yes to be in him. So

53:21

but yeah, I was like bringing your pie look

53:23

and it's and then push it Do

53:26

you ever practice where you stand right next to the

53:28

bag? Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah,

53:30

I tried just jumps back jump back

53:32

and I create my distance from jump

53:34

me jumping away from the man Yeah,

53:36

exactly if you can develop that

53:38

that is a secret weapon because it's one of

53:41

those techniques It's like you remember when the calf

53:43

kick came along. Everybody's got to throw a cat

53:46

If you could develop that Yair has it Yair

53:48

does it really well But this was a giant

53:50

moment and getting in a look look how close

53:52

you are Look how close you are to be

53:54

able to get that off from there and

53:56

that hit him in the nose. His nose was

53:58

gone I mean you

54:01

shattered his nose at the very end of

54:03

the first round and from from then

54:05

on What

54:07

a fucking fight man, I watch that fight at

54:09

least ten times no bullshit at

54:12

least awesome I've watched it over and over again

54:14

in the gym. I would lie to tell you

54:16

if I didn't watch it I'm and look dude.

54:18

I always pause I always pause no

54:20

matter what I'm doing if I'm at the gym. I

54:22

pause for that last ten seconds Just

54:24

like this like how is this real?

54:27

How is this real? You got

54:29

that jump spinning back kick down, dude You got

54:31

it down in the most unusual

54:34

way which is this hot back and then throw

54:36

it I'm Raymond Daniels does that really even you

54:38

even you like back in the day What was

54:40

the video game and then I started looking at

54:42

swing back kicks? I there's a clip of you

54:44

hitting a fucking killing the bag bro. Yeah, I

54:46

was like what the fuck do you

54:48

fight? Kill

54:51

you it's being back. It does only one clip of

54:53

me in a type window fight It's me not gonna

54:55

do that with a spinning back kick Holy and I

54:58

sent him flying it was but it's the same exact

55:00

move the guys moving forward and I just jump and

55:02

spin At the same time it was the same move

55:04

because I was like in the air when I landed

55:06

it That's crazy That was my favorite thing to do

55:08

so when I see a guy like you doing it

55:10

from up close And I know you learned at a

55:13

fucking strike from video games, which is so quick when

55:15

you told me that the first time I was like

55:17

what I thought oh we went to like a

55:19

traditional karate school And then he started studying Muay Thai

55:21

when he was 10 no No,

55:24

I saw cool stuff happening in the game I was

55:26

like oh, bro We could put this together in real

55:28

life and that bro Dustin we never have striking coach

55:30

You know I didn't have Ivan yet And then after

55:32

their Connor fight is when Ivan I've been floors during

55:34

my camp so and then with him

55:36

with I bro Ivan is a genius like he's like

55:39

rule like he really he like he loves the basic

55:41

stuff But then when I tried to tell him or

55:43

or showing fancy stuff or I see Muay Thai doing

55:45

shit like shoot the leg And my elbow and stuff

55:47

or whatever it's like it's crazy You

55:50

know like even even this fight week so

55:52

like if you watch the fight a bunch

55:54

of times I'm doing this right kick. I

55:57

do this right kick, and then I just step over on my

55:59

right hand or against Gachey. I just saw it, we

56:01

saw that, I practiced that,

56:03

I threw that a bunch of times in other fights but

56:05

then like two weeks before the fight, he

56:08

sent me a clip on Instagram and be like, oh

56:10

look at this, watch this. I forget who it

56:12

was but the Muay Thai guy was white

56:14

kicking, he set up with a right low kick, next

56:16

one right low kick, right over hand and kills

56:18

guys but he's like downing guys with it and

56:20

I was like holy shit, we know

56:23

Justin likes to stay there after kicks to throw

56:25

so I was like brother this is gonna work

56:27

on Justin so we just kinda added it in

56:29

our game. I told him bro I think I'm

56:31

gonna throw this in the fight, he's like yeah

56:34

let's practice it. I haven't

56:36

floored as the man bro, he's the man. You

56:38

have an amazing camp. Yeah all my coaches are

56:40

the man bro. You really do have an amazing

56:42

group of people but you also, it's the argument

56:45

that a lot of guys have been making that

56:47

a smaller camp is maybe

56:49

better for some athletes because there's a lot of

56:51

guys who want to go to like ATT but

56:53

you know the guy, like I talked to Jim

56:55

Miller about this and he said that he really

56:57

started improving much more when he concentrated on himself

56:59

and had a smaller camp and he stopped teaching.

57:01

Yeah and at the end of the day these

57:05

big camps you know like even in Vegas

57:07

bro like I hear everybody going to Vegas

57:09

and training and

57:11

like bro like one of the guys out there was telling

57:13

me it's like the wild wild west. So

57:15

like how do you get better every day you're going

57:17

to train and this knowing I might

57:19

fight this guy. Exactly. You know what I mean I

57:22

might have to fight this guy. You know like I

57:24

have guys my weight some guys my weight in my

57:26

class and I tell them brother like I would tell

57:28

them like if we ever got to the point where

57:31

we're both in the UFC we're fighting for freaking

57:34

a lot of money like you better sign

57:36

that damn contract. We done kill each other here but

57:38

you my brother you know we done kill each other

57:40

and stuff for free. You be stupid as hell to

57:42

not take a fight against me in the UFC or

57:45

whatever but that's different from going to a big gym

57:47

and like and actually being worried

57:49

like I'm not worried you know if we fight we fight

57:51

but like some of these guys you go in there and

57:53

fighting your your life it's like a fight every day of

57:55

the week and that shit is gonna fucking

57:57

like mentally brother that is gonna beat you

57:59

down. Every day going like oh my god I'm fighting

58:01

for my life here. Oh my god bro I feel I

58:05

feel like everybody can call me a liar

58:08

and whatever but bro in the fight I'm

58:10

nervous as hell in the back but with

58:12

the Justin fight this last

58:14

one I was telling people I was like What the

58:16

fuck am I doing here? Why am I fighting Justin?

58:19

What the hell are you doing max? You know like

58:21

bro I'm not even lying I'm in the back. I'm

58:23

in the back thinking like fucking shit

58:25

like what are we doing? You told me this is the

58:27

last time Like

58:29

now you're on USC 300 you'd be a

58:32

million people gonna buy this pay-per-view What the

58:34

hell are you doing and then as soon as the

58:36

lights come on I say here my song That's when

58:38

it changes, you know, and then it's like it's cold

58:40

time is like nah max You can't be fucking working

58:42

McDonald's making this much money. Let's go get this paper

58:46

You gotta own McDonald's if you're making this much

58:48

money, but you know shit so let's go get

58:51

it Multiple McDonald's with the next one. Yeah That

58:55

was it, you know, so you guys switch Flip

58:57

the switch and then a lot

58:59

of my coaches they didn't know my walkout song was funny cuz

59:01

they was like is he gonna do it cuz they Was

59:03

waiting for me to walk out to Israel song right come

59:05

on cuz people all this Are you gonna do it? He's gonna

59:08

do it and then we walked out to Hawaiian Hawaiian

59:10

Superman Maui Hawaiian Superman. So I loved it, but I think

59:12

it was perfect They made the you was out there in

59:14

the crowd. I don't know if you could see it Oh,

59:16

yeah on your screen. They made it look like the ocean,

59:18

bro They made they made me look like

59:21

it was the ocean and that the way we

59:23

had to turn in our song so early, bro So

59:25

like usually I can turn in my song like the

59:27

week of the fight or the week before the fight

59:29

walkout song But Heidi hit us up like eight six

59:32

weeks out is like hey We need you guys walk

59:34

out so now because we're trying to do something and

59:36

then that was what they did They the lights falls

59:38

on the chairs that all the guys had they made

59:40

it they made it go to the song like they

59:42

Made mine and look like the ocean so it was

59:45

like wavy But then Justin's on the sick cuz like

59:47

every time the beat hit the lights on

59:49

the stuff went up with like whatever I was like,

59:51

well, that's cool. So what was Justin's walkout song? I

59:54

forget but it was a really good song, but

59:56

I liked it. Is it really good

59:58

song? Yeah, there's some banger walkouts also About

1:00:00

poloton when that motherfucker walks out

1:00:06

He's the scariest motherfucker when he walks out

1:00:08

cuz he stands there he walks out like

1:00:11

this So,

1:00:20

you know what is funny, you know I don't

1:00:22

know if you've ever lost that kid of like

1:00:24

he mimics like he mimics fights Yeah fighters yet

1:00:26

a kid so he was at the press conference

1:00:29

And the whole fucking press conference I see him and

1:00:31

he's trying to one two three But

1:00:33

the whole time he got busted from from a security

1:00:36

guard to sit down But the whole time that I

1:00:38

watched him he was throwing it. I was like, but

1:00:40

I got that kid is crazy Have you some mighty

1:00:42

mouse to everybody? No, no, no mighty

1:00:44

mouse. There's a video Yeah,

1:00:47

I called them on I said, why didn't

1:00:49

you make mine? He's like, oh, I got

1:00:51

you. I got your next one Yeah, he

1:00:54

could do everybody. Yeah, he's good, but he

1:00:56

mimics everyone's style. He does Khabib He does

1:00:58

Connor he does so who doe

1:01:00

he does everybody he's a beast my mouse

1:01:02

is the goat When

1:01:04

I say when I say the best martial

1:01:06

artists that I've ever seen in terms of

1:01:08

like the expression of martial arts He's my

1:01:11

favorite If you don't have

1:01:13

him if you don't have him on

1:01:15

top your your your MMA

1:01:17

rush month war whatever Moria

1:01:21

I think of myself when I said rush my rush

1:01:23

more but if you don't have him on it, you're

1:01:25

just a hater Yeah, you have to be a everybody

1:01:28

everybody keep talking about like even that like everybody keep

1:01:30

talking about like, oh, he's only 125 I

1:01:43

What is that I had this thing going

1:01:46

to oh so here's my show the mighty

1:01:48

mouse one that was that's incredible So here's

1:01:50

mighty mouse pretending to be so hudo So

1:01:54

they switch what's trickling? Oh,

1:01:57

it looks exactly like oh, it's crazy Boyer

1:02:09

The grega that is good. Oh my

1:02:11

god. It's amazing Mighty

1:02:16

bad, he does that assign you to

1:02:18

yeah, look at that Wow

1:02:22

Yeah, Yuri Prohaska's talking about going down to

1:02:24

85 80. Yeah, he apparently

1:02:27

didn't cut any weight for that fight Yeah,

1:02:29

yeah, me name is managed by the same

1:02:31

guy and that's why I heard to he's

1:02:33

a wild boy Oh, well, do you

1:02:35

not see that he was outside of UC 200? Yeah

1:02:37

at 4 o'clock in the morning. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I

1:02:40

started to tune on T-Mobile. Yeah, and

1:02:42

the fans looking scared as hell to go He's

1:02:48

so cool, bro, he's so oh did you not see

1:02:50

he just make him one that you know

1:02:52

He's the other one that wanted to on the bonus

1:02:54

right then the first post. I'm back home. I'm in

1:02:56

my heart How are we

1:02:58

doing? Like it lives, but he

1:03:01

actually lives in that hut in the forest. Does

1:03:03

he really yeah, but he works out punching trees

1:03:05

Dudes out there throwing front kicks at trees

1:03:08

and shit. They get the guy the guy

1:03:10

is unreal But the guy's unreal go animal

1:03:12

he's in there cuz rockets was putting it

1:03:14

on him, man And he was just melting

1:03:16

rackets. They some big dudes are like off

1:03:18

fight weeks When I when

1:03:21

I went to the PI rock it was me

1:03:23

rocket and heal and these months bro

1:03:26

Big guys, I'm like, holy shit. You

1:03:28

get some big. Yeah, they're huge. Yeah,

1:03:30

they're huge in Yuri at

1:03:32

185 would be terrifying He's got

1:03:35

such a crazy style man I mean, there's

1:03:37

no one that fights like that guy like

1:03:39

if you saw his silhouette you'd be able

1:03:41

to tell instantly. That's Pro Haska Yeah, yeah,

1:03:43

but he does have hands down chin forward,

1:03:46

you know the fucking crazy hair. Yeah, he's

1:03:48

not my right bun. Well, he's He

1:03:52

he just a samurai samurai spirit, but

1:03:54

it's not a facade. No, he really

1:03:57

got a guy's things Yeah, no, he's

1:03:59

like And he's a really bro.

1:04:01

He's a really nice guy like you ever talk story to him. Yeah,

1:04:04

I've talked to him Well, he's so nice. He's very

1:04:06

nice. He's very quiet like he's a his

1:04:08

tone is earth. Yeah, I'm good, brother Yeah,

1:04:10

like like bro. He's almost like he's

1:04:13

like the guy that you call to go kill somebody for you

1:04:15

Oh, yeah, man, you know, he's like I need a hit man.

1:04:17

Okay, but Yeah,

1:04:19

exactly Exactly. So that

1:04:21

fight was a wild fight too It's like

1:04:23

there's so many fights that got lost the

1:04:26

fight your fight Especially that knockout was so

1:04:28

crazy that people forgot that you fucked Dustin

1:04:30

up the first part of the fifth round

1:04:33

Like I kind of forgot about it until I watched it again.

1:04:35

I was like, oh, yeah Yeah,

1:04:37

I'm a certain. Yeah, I almost heard him

1:04:39

but you know, oh you heard even even

1:04:42

even even even when I

1:04:44

call my dad You know and you're

1:04:46

gonna love this one But then I went like this and

1:04:48

then when I was when I was flirting them everybody in

1:04:50

every round every time I heard Them I'd come in I'll

1:04:53

do a little bit and if it didn't put him down

1:04:55

or hurt him more I just backed off cuz

1:04:57

everybody's like why is he not attacking? Why is it not attacking?

1:04:59

I'm like brother Every time I heard

1:05:01

him. He had the craziest look in his eyes And

1:05:05

one time he said let's get it on

1:05:07

so I was okay, you know, I was

1:05:09

like, no, I'm okay, but I'm here I'm gonna

1:05:11

keep picking you, you know He did

1:05:13

he did well, just like he did have the craziest

1:05:15

look in his eyes, but it was it was crazy

1:05:17

Like I would hurt I was like, why are you

1:05:19

even standing bro? You know like and then I just

1:05:21

think yeah, you're right. You're Justin geechi Yeah, you're a

1:05:23

freakin highlight, you know, so we used to the wildest

1:05:26

shit before the fights and I don't

1:05:28

make plans after my fights Cuz I'm playing on being

1:05:30

here. Yeah when I saw that I was like, what

1:05:33

the fuck? Is he guys

1:05:35

human? Yeah, I mean how the hell did he

1:05:37

get led into Wakanda? It's not a very Wakanda

1:05:39

mindset, you know Oh,

1:05:44

there's one thing that has come up that

1:05:46

I think we probably should talk about and

1:05:49

it's the pahita Jamal Hill knockout Uh-huh, and

1:05:52

it is it's an interesting thing that was brought

1:05:54

up and I didn't think anything of it at

1:05:56

the time And then I watched it again. I

1:05:58

was like There's kind

1:06:00

of a point there and the point

1:06:02

is Jamal accidentally hits

1:06:04

him low. He would kick some in the hip

1:06:07

and Herb

1:06:09

Dean comes in to stop it and then

1:06:14

But in the meantime Jamal

1:06:17

has stopped and relaxed after

1:06:19

he threw the kick He gives him a thumbs

1:06:21

up like you cool and then pay

1:06:24

head of the head of advances and

1:06:26

then herb is to the left Yeah, so it's

1:06:28

like he can't even move too much to the

1:06:30

left and all of a sudden he's on him

1:06:33

and he hits him with That left. Yeah, and

1:06:35

I think Jamal saying I would have never let

1:06:37

him that close to me Yeah, if it wasn't

1:06:39

for that nut shot and I didn't know exactly

1:06:41

what was going on So Herbert stopped it herb

1:06:43

is out of his field of vision herb is

1:06:45

over here So when Herb's doing this, I don't

1:06:48

know what he said. I don't know if it's a good we see

1:06:50

we could watch it He said he said I think

1:06:52

so I think so I know what you're saying because even there

1:06:54

like he stands there and like kind of like like

1:06:57

half half like touch gloves Mm-hmm, right and

1:06:59

in like and and Alex is like you

1:07:01

didn't touch glove to step in see it

1:07:03

and then Alex chose the left I like

1:07:05

steps on his foot. Yeah, that's on his

1:07:07

foot. That's the old that's old boxing Yeah,

1:07:12

so he steps on his front foot and then

1:07:15

hits him with that left hook from hell his

1:07:17

left hook is a crazy weapon Man, but the

1:07:19

team don't even look hard. It's Tell

1:07:21

me not it just looks like and then when did

1:07:23

you not see the joke that it sent down his

1:07:26

body? He

1:07:28

almost did a Was he the

1:07:30

one that not so Johnny Walker? Yeah, yeah

1:07:33

He almost did the Johnny Walker like his

1:07:36

body like kind of extended kind of crazy

1:07:38

Oh crazy Wow, and is a glancing blow

1:07:40

glancing brother And it was like wasn't even a

1:07:42

hook was like a shovel hook Yeah,

1:07:45

like a Mexican hook the way he lands

1:07:47

it man. He's like you don't give a

1:07:49

shit The fight that he got

1:07:51

before he fought in the UFC. Did you ever

1:07:54

see that one? No, it's the most vicious left

1:07:56

hook knockout of all time. He hits the dude

1:07:58

with a high kick the guy blocks it He

1:08:00

steps the guy's desk whack he just

1:08:03

like cleanly his you know he's got

1:08:05

that long frame He's so long and

1:08:07

it does all this torque and he

1:08:09

just torques his whole body and whips

1:08:12

across It sounds like a

1:08:14

like a baseball bat hitting a watermelon just

1:08:16

whop and the dude just drops face Oh,

1:08:18

how are people just have that kind of

1:08:20

power right his powers

1:08:22

crazy. He punched that the

1:08:25

machine Did

1:08:29

you you can never take it back you over the

1:08:31

roundhouse kick I got to 152 That's

1:08:34

crazy, but the

1:08:36

difference between that and 190 with one day. I

1:08:38

hear this yeah Eclipse

1:08:41

it now. It's a bit. Let's back it up again

1:08:43

cuz let's make the argument. Let's see what happens So

1:08:45

go all the way to the nut shot, so here's

1:08:47

the nut shot So

1:08:49

now I want you watch Jamal Jamal stops watch

1:08:52

his legs get his locked legs lock up. He's

1:08:54

relaxed He gives a thumbs up. We cool. We

1:08:56

cool, and he touches herb

1:08:58

so now they're back at it. Yeah,

1:09:01

look at his stance He's ready. Yeah,

1:09:04

pajeta pajeta has never relaxed,

1:09:07

so this time has gone on with this is a

1:09:09

little we're doing it in slow motion Right let's do

1:09:11

it in real speed So here

1:09:13

we see this Though

1:09:17

You know the fight had restarted the

1:09:20

fight every start But would that have

1:09:22

would that position have taken place if

1:09:24

it wasn't for Jamal relaxing? Yeah, you

1:09:26

give them the thumbs up, so you

1:09:28

know like not his fight so my

1:09:30

fight the number one thing When

1:09:33

I was going with Justin was just beyond all

1:09:35

the time right like just fucking max back I

1:09:37

was just in the back of myself mentally Physically

1:09:40

you need to be here every fucking

1:09:42

second right every millisecond brother

1:09:45

That could use a crazy thing could

1:09:47

you one one one millisecond off lights

1:09:49

can turn off max you need to be on So that

1:09:51

was the main thing now saying myself the whole fight You

1:09:53

know like with that like if I was in a situation

1:09:56

I don't give a fuck what the I would have fucking

1:09:58

I would have told her being the most Fuck

1:10:00

are we going like I would have been like come on like

1:10:02

I would have been ready You know like it's protect yourself at

1:10:04

all times. You know there is a weird

1:10:07

Millisecond where no one knows what's going on

1:10:09

yeah, and when pajeta is still moving apart,

1:10:12

but petties it look at pettas He's a

1:10:14

millisecond. He said like he's gonna burn area.

1:10:16

I don't watch it again. Watch it again

1:10:20

so the low kick and then as Jamal

1:10:24

Stop it go all the way from the beginning

1:10:26

watch this so when Jamal lands the kick He

1:10:29

touches them, and then he makes look at

1:10:31

the distance each closes. Yeah, oh yeah, look

1:10:33

right there right there Yeah, look closely distance,

1:10:35

but back it up again So you see

1:10:37

the distance that Jamal's maintaining initially then

1:10:39

he throws the kick now watch this

1:10:42

they pause them all thumbs up Yeah, but

1:10:44

pettas close the gap now right there. Go

1:10:46

yeah look how close he is He's closed

1:10:48

the gap a lot more than he Jamal

1:10:50

probably would have let him now It's a

1:10:53

mistake by Jamal protect yourself at all times

1:10:55

But also it does seem like there's a

1:10:57

moment of confusion there is there is he

1:10:59

does close that distance he does Significantly

1:11:02

it's like a double step watch it from

1:11:04

here today. Yeah, he hops in there. Yeah,

1:11:06

look right there hop hop Yeah, and that's

1:11:08

how you're in the danger zone. That's fucking

1:11:10

Kenny Rogers or Kenny Loggins And

1:11:16

so once he does that that little hop

1:11:18

in he takes advantage of that moment to

1:11:20

close the gap The left foot is so

1:11:23

clean, bro. Look at this so he doesn't

1:11:25

stop when Herb stops him He closes when

1:11:27

he puts her on he closes because this

1:11:29

is a name to total stop Yeah, yeah,

1:11:32

or doing that that one time. Yeah, watch

1:11:34

it this area So he touches it you

1:11:37

hop close the distance while Jamal's

1:11:39

legs are straight Yeah, so Jamal gives

1:11:41

him the thumbs up and pahita had

1:11:43

a double hop Yeah,

1:11:46

yeah, yeah, and and and Jamal didn't know

1:11:48

yeah, this is a this is a real

1:11:50

moment now I'm not making any

1:11:52

excuses for Jamal and Jamal

1:11:54

can take a loss as good as anybody and after

1:11:56

the paul craig fight. He's like I fucked up. He

1:11:58

got me This is it but He's

1:12:00

got a point here. Yeah, it's

1:12:02

not a perfect point because

1:12:05

they had engaged again Yeah, I know what

1:12:07

you mean I had closed that gap to

1:12:09

a point where Jamal was not letting us

1:12:11

do that early But but then again

1:12:13

like you know playing devil advocate, you know, nothing my

1:12:16

love for Jamal But fuck

1:12:18

bro, you just you need to be locked in

1:12:20

there You need to be locked here, you know,

1:12:22

like you're fighting another dangerous man the man across

1:12:25

you that you know You each other you guys

1:12:27

land one good shot. You guys both can put

1:12:29

each other away. It's like I Don't

1:12:31

know bro because at the end of day, it's a

1:12:34

mistake on his part But

1:12:36

her like it sucks, you know, I like how

1:12:39

much times do we hear? Freakin

1:12:44

judge or even a ref screwing up the fight,

1:12:46

you know, I mean so it's like you need

1:12:48

to it like Anybody

1:12:50

fighters amateur level pro level the best

1:12:52

fighters in the world, whatever it is

1:12:55

Don't don't don't put it in these guys hands

1:12:58

man. I mean, it's easier said than done, but

1:13:00

don't leave it, you know Like it's just aware

1:13:02

Yeah, just be aware, you know, like you do

1:13:04

have a third man in there They are supposed

1:13:06

to be looking out for you But how

1:13:09

much time do we see what sometimes it that's

1:13:11

just not the case or it's just too early,

1:13:13

you know So at the end of the day Fuck

1:13:16

it sucks. Well, what you gonna do there? You

1:13:18

know, I mean like all we're gonna do is

1:13:20

we're gonna have this kind of talks and arguments

1:13:22

and he's gonna have arguments and stuff And then

1:13:24

nothing's gonna get changed. Here's the question. Like what

1:13:26

is the protocol when a referee

1:13:29

steps in and says stop Even

1:13:32

with him tell him stop the protocol should

1:13:34

have been like, okay separate, okay Whatever go

1:13:37

back to the middle like you push him against the

1:13:39

cage, whatever we saw you hop Okay,

1:13:41

you want me to stuff back up a little bit. Let's

1:13:43

let me go He needs to sit go in the middle

1:13:45

of them and be okay fight right you can't be like

1:13:47

get stopped and then you moved Off to the side. Okay

1:13:49

fight fight to here because if if if

1:13:52

what's his name Jamal couldn't see him I

1:13:54

can understand like in his peripherals like he's just

1:13:56

focused, you know, and and then maybe stuff stays

1:13:58

fight and I'm just Focus on you, okay, what's

1:14:01

going on? Right. There's

1:14:03

definitely an argument that if you're going

1:14:05

to do that and you're going to

1:14:07

stop the fight momentarily, even if you're

1:14:09

going to restart it, you have to

1:14:11

understand that the momentum has stopped. Things

1:14:13

have changed. And if one guy

1:14:15

does this and hops in during that time,

1:14:18

you kind of have to step

1:14:20

and separate them and then engage. So he

1:14:22

does the engage, he goes off to the

1:14:24

side. And now the argument against that that

1:14:26

I've heard is that this happens all the

1:14:28

times where fighters get kicked and the referee

1:14:30

says, hold on, the fighter says, I'm fine,

1:14:33

and then they let him keep going. So

1:14:37

maybe that's a good

1:14:39

argument too that Jamal should have been more

1:14:41

prepared. But it seems like he

1:14:43

had actually told them to stop and

1:14:46

that's when Jamal did this. Yeah, yeah,

1:14:48

yeah. So it's like, or

1:14:50

excuse me, Alex did this. So is that up

1:14:53

to the fighter? What are the rules? Yeah, what

1:14:55

are the rules? Yeah. Like

1:14:57

when the referee says stop, are the

1:14:59

fighters allowed to say no, I'm fine,

1:15:02

or are they supposed to address the

1:15:04

referee and say I'm fine? He said

1:15:06

time. Yeah, he says time. And

1:15:09

he puts his hand up and now where's Herb

1:15:11

Dean? Herb Dean moves away. Jamal does not have

1:15:13

eyes on him. Yeah, yeah. He's

1:15:15

looking at him a little time because he's not trying to

1:15:17

get cracked. But Alex is much closer to him now. Yeah,

1:15:20

he's much closer than nobody, but look at the

1:15:22

angle that he takes too. Like Alex

1:15:24

is cutting off the cage there. Yeah, he's

1:15:26

cutting off the cage. You took him to

1:15:29

his right to cut off the cage, bro.

1:15:31

And Herb is right to Jamal's left. Yeah,

1:15:33

look at that. That was beautiful.

1:15:35

Yeah, it was beautiful. Beautiful. That

1:15:37

was crazy. He's a monster. Yeah. That

1:15:40

guy's a monster. I was telling everybody about that guy when he

1:15:42

was in glory. I remember. When they were saying he

1:15:44

was coming over to the UFC, I was like, I told DC, I go,

1:15:46

dude, get ready for this

1:15:49

motherfucker. Yeah. Because this motherfucker puts people

1:15:51

into orbit. Right there. He's

1:15:53

got crazy power. Brother, the wormholes,

1:15:55

bro. Universe, the

1:15:57

different universes. He

1:16:00

might he might have actually you know

1:16:02

since we're talking about Conda. He might be like

1:16:04

a boxer strange guy He might have the ring

1:16:06

on but look underneath his glove or something. That's

1:16:09

what's happening, bro Well, what he is is a

1:16:11

real Amazon warrior like that's his unique his gene

1:16:13

Yeah, you see him bro. You see him go

1:16:15

back to the village. Yeah, we'll all paint it

1:16:17

up and stuff like a leopard Bro

1:16:20

guys a G. Bro. He's a real deal. He's

1:16:22

a real man How the fuck

1:16:24

was he ever making 185 is

1:16:26

the big question and how much

1:16:28

do you think that compromise his chin? When he

1:16:31

went a lot bro, you know, you know, it's

1:16:33

crazy You know, here's the

1:16:35

walk. Yeah, it's what bro. That's

1:16:37

just terrifying Look

1:16:40

at his eyes, man And

1:16:45

everybody just love and he told

1:16:47

you mall when I make my walk in then

1:16:49

you'll think about all these things you said Yeah,

1:16:51

I did I

1:16:58

Know audience yells out ha Look

1:17:01

at Jamal though. He caught that. Did

1:17:04

you see it and the angle he caught the

1:17:06

arrow he broke. Yeah Cool

1:17:08

Jamal was telling me when I talked to

1:17:10

him about he said he feels like he

1:17:12

was winning that fight He said he was

1:17:14

implementing his strategy he was

1:17:16

he landed that one good right hook in the

1:17:18

first round and He felt

1:17:20

like he was on his way He felt like he

1:17:23

was doing everything he wanted to do not letting that

1:17:25

dude get close, but that thing fucked him up Yeah,

1:17:27

I mean that there's a real there's a real moment

1:17:29

there Right,

1:17:31

like you know, it's funny

1:17:33

brother, you know, like, you know, nothing to Jamal

1:17:36

whatever but what is crazy that

1:17:38

when I read when I read I see comments

1:17:40

or see people talking about our fight and Like

1:17:43

guys like bringing up like oh, yeah Just

1:17:46

imagine imagine if Justin didn't break his nose, they

1:17:48

would have been a whole different family. Well, thank

1:17:50

the Lord I land my Spain back here because

1:17:52

it's broken Yeah,

1:17:56

yeah, or just imagine if I

1:17:58

broke my ankle walking into the freaking armpit guys There's

1:18:00

so much stuff. I'm like what are you like

1:18:02

people are so crazy. I'm like my god like

1:18:04

this enjoy Why can't you guys enjoy it? Why

1:18:07

can you guys let have other people have stuff?

1:18:09

You know like why can't we have? This

1:18:12

is why we can't have good thing

1:18:14

again. It's just losers. You know you

1:18:16

think Michael Jordan's leaving YouTube comments No,

1:18:19

no, it's winners don't have time for that shit,

1:18:21

but that's also part of the game Yeah, you

1:18:23

have to deal with those people that

1:18:27

Anyhow anybody can say imagine if you didn't

1:18:29

land something that you landed that you planned

1:18:31

for that you executed That's very hard to

1:18:33

pull off. Yeah, a spinning back kick where

1:18:35

you literally right in front of each other

1:18:37

like that And you landed to his face.

1:18:39

Yeah, bro. We knew he was on duck.

1:18:41

We're looking for a time. You know yeah

1:18:43

It was perfect. It was perfect, and

1:18:45

it was such a great moment

1:18:48

on that night night because that night

1:18:50

was magical Your bro you

1:18:52

have seen three I can't I get my head is

1:18:54

fit not wrapped around it You know like how you

1:18:56

said how do I feel I don't know how I

1:18:58

feel yet because it's sitting around like right to have

1:19:00

that to To to

1:19:02

to to be one of the guys to it

1:19:05

started from all the way outside a fight brother

1:19:07

Somebody asked me to get the boat wrapped around

1:19:10

Mark Coleman like when they asked me who I think

1:19:13

and I said Mark Coleman You know I'm like bro.

1:19:15

He's the guy he did his fight his house with

1:19:17

his fires and stuff just happened He's

1:19:19

a man and then to it being USC 300 to

1:19:21

to Us

1:19:24

getting actual what about the how much should

1:19:26

the freaking bonuses be and I'm freaking screaming And

1:19:32

Dustin and freakin Dana to be like 300

1:19:34

K. I was like holy shit and to

1:19:36

win both the bonuses It

1:19:39

was this crazy and then tabbed the like you

1:19:41

said brother movie finish brought to the to hit

1:19:43

him with over to hit The

1:19:45

it was like a David versus Goliath kind of

1:19:47

kind of story going against him You know and

1:19:49

then that hit him with that overhand is like

1:19:52

me hitting hitting him with the slingshot You

1:19:54

know and the rock at the perfect

1:19:56

place perfect time The

1:19:58

perfect bro. This is useful 300 nobody's

1:20:02

Event getting put together. This is not gonna top

1:20:04

nothing to 400 and we don't even know

1:20:06

if 400 is gonna top it You know

1:20:08

I mean like right we don't know we

1:20:10

don't know but they're gonna be almost impossible

1:20:12

to top that Like every card

1:20:14

after that you look at the card like

1:20:16

okay. Yeah It's

1:20:19

crazy and then a lot of people then brought they

1:20:21

know it is that he's the ultimate troll, bro I

1:20:24

love I love they know like them when they told

1:20:26

people when they Know

1:20:30

how much people on top of that video to

1:20:32

also did videos of me talking about

1:20:34

how I was like Undergun and pillow pillow

1:20:37

all the way pull hands all the way

1:20:39

is gonna get killed and I am gonna

1:20:41

be the first pony 2.0,

1:20:43

whatever I was like brother you guys just watching I

1:20:46

bet all their tones change and now they're making money off

1:20:48

of me I should go write them all money and be

1:20:50

like everybody owe me 10% of YouTube There's

1:20:54

all these people that have these takes where they

1:20:56

know what's gonna happen It's such a stupid thing

1:20:59

to do you don't know what's gonna happen you

1:21:01

could talk about someone opinion Yeah, you can talk

1:21:03

about you can have an opinion, but when people

1:21:05

see stuff and I'm like well, that's crazy It's

1:21:07

just dumb It's just dumb You know

1:21:09

you talk you should talk about someone's skills and

1:21:11

what they can do and this could be a

1:21:14

factor and that could be a factor But to

1:21:16

say this is going to happen that is folly.

1:21:18

That's a stupid way to look at things There's

1:21:20

not a chance in hell that you know when

1:21:22

to take world-class Mars Mars. Yeah, there's no chance.

1:21:25

There's no chance. You know I saw a lot

1:21:27

of people doing that with the The

1:21:31

fight this past weekend with With

1:21:35

Devin Haney, oh yeah, yeah,

1:21:37

yeah, everybody was counting out

1:21:39

Ryan Garcia so many people Did you see how much

1:21:41

he bet on himself? 2 million bucks How

1:21:46

much did he well million Say

1:21:48

bet 2 million to win to win 12 million and

1:21:50

he paid what and he paid 2.1 million

1:21:52

dollars in in fees So

1:21:56

you pay 1.5 in fees three

1:21:58

pounds right he paid 1.5 5

1:22:00

to to to Haney

1:22:02

cuz you said 500 every week right every

1:22:04

pond and he had to pay you an extra 600 or 500 to

1:22:06

the Commission Wow So

1:22:10

so that's what so it's like 2.1 million dollars.

1:22:13

Yeah, bro, and he's like and he better be

1:22:15

like bro. I don't give a shit Boy

1:22:20

do that left hook he has with a thing

1:22:22

is that bro. It's so fast. Oh, so fast

1:22:24

It's so fun it and it's so fast and

1:22:26

it hits so hard cuz they gave him do

1:22:28

you see the way Haney like oh Not

1:22:30

even not only Haney, but every time he landed

1:22:32

on anybody they're like yeah, they're like

1:22:34

they go whoa. Yeah, they're getting like Shocked

1:22:37

it comes at you so much faster than other

1:22:39

punches. It reminds me a lot of Roy Jones

1:22:41

in his prime Yeah, like Roy Jones

1:22:43

Jr. Is prime barely through jabs Which is so

1:22:45

crazy that a guy will be so fast that

1:22:48

he can hit you with a leaping left hook

1:22:50

and his jab was a leaping left hook You

1:22:53

ever see this is biceps the difference. Yeah, yeah, yeah

1:22:55

left biceps twice the size of his right bicep It's

1:22:58

not he might have been he might have been an

1:23:00

arm wrestler then Roy Jones

1:23:02

had the craziest style of all time when

1:23:04

he was in his prime that dude was

1:23:07

Untouchable every fight was the

1:23:09

execution. Oh crazy, but he had bangas. Oh, he

1:23:11

was a he was a Fat,

1:23:14

he's the only guy in Compu box history that getting

1:23:16

it didn't get a single punch landed on him and

1:23:18

around For real yeah, we

1:23:20

fought Vinnie Pazienza didn't get a single

1:23:23

Fucking and then it just put it on him and

1:23:26

then he tried to stop the fight himself He

1:23:28

looked at the referees like stop this fight

1:23:30

and the referees like keep fighting. He's like,

1:23:32

all right. It goes like that He does

1:23:34

like that. He just turns him up and

1:23:37

chaos him No, what have these though? What

1:23:39

a beast but at that left hook is

1:23:41

a weapon if you got a left hook

1:23:43

like Ryan Garcia Like my god, that thing

1:23:45

Ryan as freaking Parero But

1:23:47

you're not as Jivante for making him go

1:23:49

to 135 and then making

1:23:52

it giving him a weight clause But you

1:23:54

can't rehydrate more than 10 pounds who is

1:23:56

behind him? Who's behind him brother the money

1:23:58

me with that guy is smart That

1:24:00

guy is a businessman these guys are

1:24:02

businessmen. Yeah, like it is anything that

1:24:04

Floyd did the canelo Yeah, same exact

1:24:06

thing and was what you know is more funny

1:24:08

canelo them canelo them played into his game I

1:24:10

said no, you know what we'll come down to

1:24:12

this weight He didn't ask you see he was

1:24:14

gonna give them the extra five But then with

1:24:17

a weight cloth and they said oh you what you

1:24:19

want to come here You can come here and a

1:24:21

weight cloth brother. He's well. He's a

1:24:23

businessman, bro And you got you got to

1:24:25

respect it Yes, you have to and for

1:24:27

Gervonta That was perfect because I would love

1:24:29

to see Ryan Garcia the one that we

1:24:31

saw fully hydrated against Evan Haney Against

1:24:34

your volunteer the problem he's gonna be

1:24:36

a problem for everybody. He's gonna be

1:24:38

a problem speed is bananas Yeah, you're

1:24:40

named shadow box like throw. Oh, yeah.

1:24:42

Oh, yeah, this is sped up. Oh,

1:24:45

yeah It's

1:24:47

not fair. He might have one of the

1:24:49

fastest love hooks I've ever seen for sure I

1:24:51

mean, it's right up there with everybody that all the

1:24:53

great left hookers of the past But he does

1:24:55

the crazy thing is like bro. He don't even bring it

1:24:58

out He just goes from right here right there. I'm whip

1:25:00

like a way I Just kills

1:25:02

guys. It has so much power for short

1:25:04

short distance. Just nothing just turns it over

1:25:07

Hey, you can hit you with multiple ones in a

1:25:10

row I'm a he is keep throwing my folks He

1:25:12

didn't even believe in jobs and the funny thing was

1:25:14

the troll job like he was wrong, bro Talk

1:25:17

about I saw I just saw the interview the other night

1:25:20

David. Yeah when he did the he's like, you

1:25:23

know, they want to interview I was like doing

1:25:25

all that stuff. It was crazy. I like I

1:25:28

don't give a shit. I was like, oh, I

1:25:30

like wow I was like, well, this guy's brother.

1:25:32

He should be an actor. Yeah, he he really

1:25:35

had a smart strategy act like he was crazy

1:25:38

Actually, he's crazy come come in three

1:25:40

pounds every and this bro. He he

1:25:42

sold it all the way to yeah

1:25:44

getting into that I bet him coming

1:25:46

in three pounds heavy made the line

1:25:48

move for more tortainy. Oh, I'm sure

1:25:50

like this guy's not training He

1:25:53

didn't prepare he's crazy. He's mentally unstable.

1:25:55

Yeah Don't telling you

1:25:57

but he let you last straight to the bed. It

1:25:59

was a bad Referee in that fight too because

1:26:01

you knock two drops and yeah, that was crazy

1:26:03

real bad real bad Those were two legitimate knockdowns

1:26:05

in a round where he already knocked him down

1:26:08

once So he knocked him down three times in

1:26:10

that fight the wood in that round wouldn't have

1:26:12

been like a TQ already I don't know if

1:26:14

they had a three knockdown rule It

1:26:17

wasn't for the title right because Devin

1:26:20

gets to keep the title so I think so it

1:26:22

was yeah Even if he

1:26:24

win, I think so. He said yeah, he would have

1:26:26

had that I mean whatever Fuck the title like

1:26:29

that's crazy. Yeah, that title's crazy. Yeah,

1:26:31

I said, bro. You know is

1:26:33

more crazy There's a post

1:26:35

of him being like yeah, I still got the title. I'm

1:26:37

like wow. Yeah, it's kind of crazy

1:26:39

today Yeah, I was just trying to come up

1:26:41

with some sort of me. He got humiliated Yeah,

1:26:43

I mean you got a box but they did

1:26:45

this fight the bro. This fight game is wild,

1:26:47

bro It's a wild game. It's a shit. It's

1:26:49

the most craziest game ever brother You

1:26:52

be on top of the world one day

1:26:54

and we'll fight like that you're just no

1:26:56

one even cares anymore. Yeah. Yeah It's

1:26:59

crazy. Yeah, you give you Ben Askren, you

1:27:02

know boom one shot and then

1:27:04

that's what everybody remembers Bellator

1:27:10

Dominated in one FC comes over to America

1:27:13

beats Robbie Lawler in a weird one remember

1:27:15

that No,

1:27:17

he had him in a headlock. Oh, yeah, he

1:27:19

wasn't out Robbie was defending and they thought I

1:27:21

don't know who made that call it

1:27:23

I forget who was the referee, but they

1:27:25

thought he was out and he wasn't out Robbie's like what

1:27:27

the fuck I wasn't out and they

1:27:30

called the fight and then Street

1:27:34

Jesus hits him with some fucking

1:27:36

nuclear lightning brother the

1:27:38

sprint Oh my god, and it turned the

1:27:40

angle like he cuts angle. Yeah, so that

1:27:43

Ben like his instincts kick in Like shoot

1:27:45

for the takedown runs right at him and

1:27:47

it just goes right in here and then

1:27:49

he does the freakin Three pin.

1:27:51

Yeah, he hits him a couple of

1:27:53

three piece when he's down and then

1:27:55

slaps the floor

1:27:57

and Wow,

1:28:00

that was one of the wildest knockouts too. That's

1:28:02

that's another one That's another one But the consequences

1:28:04

are different than yours yours is different and it's

1:28:06

the fact that you Decided to stand in the

1:28:09

cage in the center in the last 10 seconds

1:28:11

and that you had planned that out Did your

1:28:13

corner know you were playing that out? Oh, they

1:28:15

know already They didn't know

1:28:17

they did that you asked any of them and then

1:28:19

you tell them like well Did you guys think I

1:28:21

never told them but they already know who I am

1:28:24

is a fighter We've been I've been with these guys

1:28:26

for Like 15

1:28:29

16 years of my life like half of my life brother.

1:28:31

I've been with these guys Wow Actually,

1:28:34

I think 14 years. I think it's 14 live

1:28:36

it under half of my life with these guys

1:28:38

So they know me, you know I like you

1:28:40

can even do you have the corner to the

1:28:42

corner like Rylan is like hiding cuz he know

1:28:44

it's happening already, you know And then I

1:28:47

my striking coach already knows that it's gonna go

1:28:49

they know like I asked them after They

1:28:52

did interviews and interviews and asked and did you know max

1:28:54

was gonna do that? He's like he told us but we

1:28:56

had a feeling that if you went to last 10 seconds

1:29:00

Look right Bro,

1:29:08

you know what is funny that guy Michael

1:29:10

is like 5 3 so he's like holding

1:29:12

himself up on that Bro, his legs is

1:29:15

dangling and he's kicking in the air. Imagine

1:29:17

that I wish he's on top then Wow,

1:29:21

that was wild man And then child to

1:29:24

my best friend birdie bird Jordan read in the back

1:29:26

since the news didn't catch it at him They named

1:29:28

every corner man except for him in the back. So

1:29:31

here's a question Jamal Hill loses

1:29:33

that fight and now he's gonna

1:29:35

fight Khalil Rauntree. Oh Doesn't

1:29:38

don't you think do you think this is faster around?

1:29:40

I don't know. It's a very fast turn.

1:29:42

It's only two months Yeah, it's two months

1:29:44

and you fighting Khalil He'll treat

1:29:47

us Rauntree is a Brother

1:29:50

Dean I see that you owe him money. Yeah,

1:29:52

you owe him a lot of money You do

1:29:54

him a lot of money. I think that's how

1:29:56

he fights. Yeah, he fights you like you stole

1:29:59

something from him This contract is probably a

1:30:01

show win, so you owe him win money.

1:30:04

That sidekick that he did to the knee. Oh,

1:30:07

bro. He was jumping into that

1:30:09

thing. Oh, horrible. That's nasty,

1:30:11

bro. Horrible. Watch his knee

1:30:13

bend backwards. Khalil, I remember when Khalil

1:30:15

fought Eric Anders. He came back from

1:30:17

Thailand, so he fights Johnny Walker. Johnny

1:30:20

Walker catches him with an elbow in

1:30:22

the clinch, and he decides,

1:30:24

like, I got to really learn Muay

1:30:26

Thai clinching, elbows. He goes to Thailand.

1:30:29

And then he fights Eric Anders, and he comes

1:30:31

out looking like a Thai fighter. Ha, late kick.

1:30:33

Where did he fight? I think I watched that

1:30:35

fight. What fight? See

1:30:38

if you can find Khalil Rountree versus Eric Anders. I think

1:30:40

that was on the vault. I think that was in Vegas.

1:30:42

I think that was on the vault tree fight. I believe

1:30:44

it was in Vegas. Yeah, I think that was on the

1:30:47

vault tree fight. Me and DC were like, what happened? He

1:30:49

was always a very good fighter. He was always a

1:30:51

very good stand-up fighter, too. But

1:30:54

he went through this leap in

1:30:56

this fight. See if you get, like, early in the

1:30:58

fight, when the leg kicks

1:31:00

were insane, and it's

1:31:02

the way he's moving. He's moving like

1:31:04

a Thai. This whole thing was just

1:31:07

the second round. Oh, okay. He

1:31:09

was moving like a Thai, like his front

1:31:11

leg. He's, like, tapping with the front leg.

1:31:13

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, right there. Look, he's finally

1:31:16

going already. I mean,

1:31:18

it was very, like, Thai-style adapted

1:31:20

to MMA. But we

1:31:22

were just like, my God. Like, he's

1:31:25

looked so much better than we've seen

1:31:27

him before. There was something

1:31:29

about, like, he made this

1:31:31

decision after that Johnny Walker fight, and then

1:31:33

started going to Thailand, and just kicked

1:31:35

his game up several notches.

1:31:39

And now, you know, he gets this

1:31:41

opportunity for a guy like Khalil to

1:31:43

fight a guy who also just

1:31:46

got KO'd, right?

1:31:48

Just got KO'd just two months ago. So

1:31:50

most people would say, hey, this is too

1:31:52

soon. A lot of people say this is too

1:31:54

soon. But I get it. Jamal wants to get

1:31:57

back in there. He feels like that was a fuckup.

1:31:59

He wants to erase it. He says he's

1:32:01

fine, but this is a it's

1:32:04

a fucking scary cat man Yeah, because even

1:32:06

with even with the Jamal Hill incident, right?

1:32:08

How much shots did he get take on

1:32:10

the ground? Took a few

1:32:12

hard ones. Yeah hard to hard hammer. So whatever

1:32:14

but it's a left hook that makes his

1:32:16

eyes roll back But

1:32:19

Khalil's a monster. Oh, but he but imagine

1:32:21

he'll bro. Imagine if you're in you're in

1:32:23

this situation, right? You're in his shoes Like

1:32:26

I said, this guy's gonna knock out bro. You call

1:32:28

out there. You knock this guy out Guess

1:32:30

what? Guess what? Guess what you're doing next fight you

1:32:33

fight for a dime You're fighting for a

1:32:35

title, but you are fighting Alex for a

1:32:37

time. I didn't have it Khalil and the

1:32:40

Alex Bay Oh, holy shit. It just be

1:32:42

violence bro Oh crazy violence and you know

1:32:44

Khalil's had moments in his career where he

1:32:47

was like not totally focused and

1:32:49

then he's had moments Where he's really focused and you

1:32:51

see it like in his endurance in the fight Like

1:32:53

this fights of these laws were just like he wasn't

1:32:55

really there But then you see him

1:32:57

when he's really focused like it's like you got to pay

1:32:59

attention to what he's capable of Like you

1:33:01

could look at a fighter sometimes and you could

1:33:03

look at bad fight like some like a good

1:33:05

example Charles Olivera if you go and

1:33:08

watch Charles Olivera some of his earlier fights

1:33:10

He looks like he kind of like folded

1:33:12

Yeah, and then something happened after the birth

1:33:14

of his daughter where Charles Olivera becomes this

1:33:16

fucking assassin Yeah, he's just in this and

1:33:18

he just has no quit in him He's

1:33:20

just an animal and it's just like everybody

1:33:22

just forgot about that old shit like no,

1:33:24

he's the fucking man Yeah, and they forgot

1:33:26

about the cub Swanson fight. They forgot about

1:33:28

all these other fights They forgot about the

1:33:30

Paul Felder fight. They forgot about this fight.

1:33:32

It's like fuck all that fight What is

1:33:34

he capable of not when he's on and

1:33:36

that's I think what you got to do with

1:33:38

Khalil That's why this is a dangerous fight because

1:33:41

Jamal's a bad man and he's a dangerous dude

1:33:43

He can knock out anybody finally about oh, it's

1:33:45

gonna be the soul's Khalil. It's gonna be violent

1:33:47

broad Jamal gonna have to watch

1:33:49

his kneecaps bro. She's gonna have to watch his legs

1:33:51

everything and Khalil is also

1:33:53

Southpaw. So Jamal standing Southpaw, you

1:33:56

know, he like that. Well, that

1:33:58

was horrific. That was horrific I

1:34:01

mean he's just sidekick this shit out of his knee

1:34:03

just blew it apart man And

1:34:05

that's not a real controversial because a lot of people like

1:34:07

man that ends your career but

1:34:11

He's back He's

1:34:14

a fucking animal man. I mean he's so

1:34:16

skillful and so intelligent and his stand-up And

1:34:18

it's just like shit. It's super super high

1:34:21

level man. Oh look he tried to trust

1:34:23

kick a guy his body Yeah,

1:34:26

he's done that before he's body kick guys stands

1:34:29

up and body kicks him in Hawaii,

1:34:31

bro I got into a I

1:34:33

got to I remember the rest because one of our

1:34:36

fighters and like body kicked Someone was down and he

1:34:38

stopped the like they stopped the fight to give the

1:34:40

kid a time and they was like I was like,

1:34:42

what are you doing? He's like you can't body kick

1:34:44

on the ground like you cannot body kick a

1:34:47

down opponent to the head You can't body

1:34:49

kick you can kick him to the body. You just

1:34:51

can't get him to the head Yeah, no, you can't

1:34:53

do that. I was like, what are

1:34:55

you watching? The rules and that's they

1:34:57

modified the rules. No, brother. The rules as

1:34:59

a modified bro. I was just bad, right?

1:35:01

Yeah, I was got a fucking point deducted

1:35:03

from my from my from my one of

1:35:05

my boys I was like, I'm so sorry,

1:35:07

bro, but like that that was supposed to

1:35:09

be a TKO. Yeah, you do TKO this

1:35:11

kid, bro That's ridiculous. That's just bad referee.

1:35:13

I Really think that the problem

1:35:15

the only problem with knees to the head on the

1:35:18

ground and kicks to the ground is the cage If

1:35:21

there was no cage no place where you couldn't

1:35:23

move and someone could stomp you all

1:35:25

that shit should be on the table because it It's

1:35:27

these are valid techniques if you can knee someone

1:35:30

to the head in the clinch if you could

1:35:32

scissor knee someone like pay It it is with

1:35:34

Michael eyes If you could do that kind

1:35:36

of shit like why can't you need a guy that had a ground?

1:35:39

And you know what it is, bro And

1:35:41

and if you if you do do that You

1:35:43

know how much more of this like this

1:35:45

safe area of people is playing with their hand the

1:35:47

ground and up You know how much more it people

1:35:50

want to do that They're gonna go all the way

1:35:52

to the ground or they're gonna like fight your talent

1:35:54

you G Intelligently, yeah, and then they're

1:35:56

gonna go instead of going down and playing that

1:35:58

that game Having

1:36:00

a moment where you're safer because of

1:36:02

a rule is never a good thing.

1:36:05

No, it's terrible. It changes the Way

1:36:08

you compete. Yeah, you'll do that.

1:36:10

You'll let a guy have your back You put your

1:36:12

hand on the ground as you know, yeah, his knees

1:36:14

right there Yeah, and when in reality you got to

1:36:16

get out of that spot. Yeah, you can't you can't

1:36:18

sure yeah, dude Same thing with being a turtle Yeah,

1:36:20

you're a turtle and a guy's like like Mark Coleman

1:36:23

and pride can just drop those knees on your head

1:36:25

Remember, they let him do that. Yeah, so when guys

1:36:27

turtle in the UFC, you cannot need them in the

1:36:29

head Yeah, which is a perfect time to

1:36:31

need him in the head But then even that cuz

1:36:33

then when they do turtle right so say I'm fighting

1:36:35

someone and I see someone turtle It's

1:36:38

like half a second of them resting because I'm thinking

1:36:40

like shit now I gotta be smart of where I'm

1:36:42

picking this and what I'm doing You know like the

1:36:44

back of the head rule 100% you know But

1:36:47

like if I can soccer kick you

1:36:49

cuz you're doing that like that It's so easy to

1:36:51

like boom will see down there. I kick you right

1:36:53

in your head Yeah, like but I don't know about

1:36:55

anything, you know that that's one of the options you

1:36:57

won't stay in that position Guys

1:37:00

not gonna be turtle I guess even like guys

1:37:02

are like taking knees knees down and they're like

1:37:04

this on their ground on the ground already They

1:37:06

know what they're doing exactly, you know what you're

1:37:08

doing, but I don't and then if I come

1:37:10

in and do something wrong You get a takedown

1:37:12

and you're on top now, right? Mad

1:37:18

at Algemeyne when Algemeyne won the title from

1:37:20

Peodion Peodor hits him with an illegal knee

1:37:22

when he's down But that Lee that knee

1:37:24

should be legal. Yeah, I shouldn't be able

1:37:26

to be on your knees. I didn't fight

1:37:28

Yeah, I think so. You're are you able

1:37:30

to move if they're not stopping the fight?

1:37:32

That means you can move even with the

1:37:34

even with even with what you said you

1:37:36

you you pulling that the elbow did the

1:37:38

12 to 6. Yeah, I'm like

1:37:40

brother They you I didn't I

1:37:42

never know why they took it out Right and then

1:37:44

you you said I think someone he entered a long

1:37:46

time ago You said they took it out because they

1:37:48

saw a guy break ice with that

1:37:50

doing that right break bricks on Right

1:37:53

12 in the morning. Yeah, guess what that

1:37:55

guy can break a brick with a headbutt That guy

1:37:57

can break a brick with train elbow this way Like

1:38:00