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Are you like secretly hoping that the thieves will like drive
2:04
it off a cliff? Yeah, the third
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time I told the detective I said don't look
2:09
for it. I was like just
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let it go and it got found a day after. I was
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like why do I keep getting it back? Like
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if you're gonna steal it do your job.
2:19
Shania's experience might sound extreme
2:22
but all across the country Kia's
2:25
and Hyundai's two are getting stolen
2:28
in record numbers.
2:32
Welcome to The Journal, our show about
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money, business and power. I'm
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Ryan Knudsen. It's Tuesday,
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May 23rd. Coming
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up on the show, how Kia's and Hyundai's
2:48
became some of the most stolen cars in
2:50
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Kia and Hyundai started selling cars in
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the US in the 80s and 90s. They're
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both South Korean companies. Hyundai
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owns about 30% of Kia and they share
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some of the same parts. And for decades
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these cars were not stolen that often. Our
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colleague Sean McLean says there was probably
3:52
a good reason for that. used
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to run ads saying,
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For less than the average price of a
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new car, you
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can get two new Hyundai
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ExCels. You
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can get a new car for the cost
4:17
of a used car. And
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certainly they still have that
4:22
customer base to a certain extent.
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But certainly Kia, their strategy
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is to focus their spending on design,
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the interior,
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things that customers see and touch. And they
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don't spend as much relative
4:37
to maybe some other manufacturers on
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things that you don't necessarily
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see or you might not necessarily care
4:44
about. One of the features many Kias and
4:47
Hundays didn't have was an anti-theft immobilizer. A
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lot of their entry-level vehicles built between 2011 and 2021
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didn't have them. Though
4:57
customers could sometimes pay more to include it. So
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the immobilizer is two
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sets of computer chips essentially. You've
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got one inside the key fob and one
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inside the steering column. And what it
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uses is radio signals that are sent out
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by the key fob and detected by the steering column.
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Unless the car detects the signal from your key,
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it won't start. That's why they
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call it an engine immobilizer. Kia
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and Hyundai are not the only manufacturers
5:24
that have sold base
5:27
model vehicles without an engine immobilizer. And I
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don't think anybody really made anything of the fact that
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they continued to do so, perhaps longer than
5:33
most other manufacturers. It
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wasn't a standard feature.
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For a long time, not having an
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anti-theft immobilizer wasn't really a
5:42
big deal. Until suddenly
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it was. It started last
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year.
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Social media videos on TikTok
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and Instagram and other platforms started
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coming out by a group calling themselves the
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Kia Boys, showing themselves
6:09
breaking into hyundais
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and kias of certain model years and driving
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wildly down the streets. The
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Kia Boys and the copycats
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they inspired were young. In
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many videos, they look like teenagers. But
6:23
when it came to stealing kias, these kids
6:25
were experts. So the videos
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depict often
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young men climbing into
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this car and they will
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break a window normally or drill
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out the side lock in a door, get
6:39
in without car alarms going off, and
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then with their hands or with a screwdriver,
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tearing off a piece of plastic that
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goes around what they call the steering column,
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which is the area behind your
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steering wheel. After ripping
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off a few other parts, thieves can use
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one end of a USB charging cable to
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twist a little knob and start
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the car.
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And what they're filming themselves doing is not only stealing
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this car, but driving erratically down
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the roads, weaving
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back and forth very quickly, driving
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well above the speed limit, multiple
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people hanging outside the car, driving
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wrong way down traffic, you know, down the
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sidewalks on the grass. Basically
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hooliganism, but
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in a stolen car. As
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videos like these went viral, Kia
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and Hyundai thefts began to climb, first
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in the Midwest and then around the country.
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For Hyundai and Kia owners in St. Louis
7:42
City, police say thieves are targeting
7:44
your cars. Berkeley police reported
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a rise in stolen kias and
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Hondays in March. This is an issue
7:51
that law enforcement is aware of, that
7:53
the automaker is aware of,
7:55
and sadly something that more and more Kia
7:58
owners are
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coming to terms with. In some cities,
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the spike in thefts has been extreme. In
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Minneapolis, for example, during the first
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four months of last year, only about 100 hundays
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and kias were stolen. So far
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this year, it's
8:11
been nearly 2,000. For
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people who have had their cars stolen, like
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Shania, it isn't just the stress of
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trying to get your car back. There's
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also the financial burden. Shania
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estimates that between insurance deductibles,
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Ubers, and rental car fees, she's
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spent at least $5,000 as a result.
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And then there's the hassle of just trying to get
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to work in LA without a car. Honestly,
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I ran to work a few times. I
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walked to work. I took Ubers.
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And then I also fixed up my old
8:44
car. But my old car
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was, it's a really old car. And it's like,
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there's no AC, there's no heater.
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It was kind of tough in
8:52
that car as well. Yikes. But at
8:55
least it doesn't get stolen every 15 minutes. Exactly,
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yeah. But even when her
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car isn't in the shop or stolen,
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Shania's kia has caused her problems. Like
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a few months ago, after her car had already
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been stolen and recovered twice, she
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was in her kia running an errand.
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And there was a police car following me. And
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I was like, that's really weird. And I turn
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and all of a sudden their lights go on and I
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get surrounded by like eight cop cars. They're
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like, put your hands up. And
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I get out of the car and they had like
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four guns drawn to me. Oh my
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gosh. And giant guns. And
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I guess they had thought that I stole the car.
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Wait, they thought that you had stolen your own car?
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Yeah, yeah. Why? I
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believe they forgot to take it out of
9:42
their system or something. And
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it was like a Sunday night again. And
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yeah, it took them a lot of convincing actually
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to tell them like it wasn't me. Wow.
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You mostly just felt like you couldn't catch a break. I
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definitely felt that way, yeah. I was just
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like, it was one thing after another. Redondo
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Beach Police confirmed this happened, and
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said another jurisdiction had not yet cleared the prior
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theft from its system.
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It's not just Kia
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owners who are fed up. It's also government
10:11
officials. Several cities,
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including Seattle, Baltimore, and Cleveland,
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are suing Kia and Hyundai, blaming
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the companies for property damage and
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the burden that all this has put on local police departments.
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And attorneys general from 17 states urged
10:27
the federal government to issue a recall
10:29
of the affected cars. Here's
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California attorney general, Rob Bonta. When
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these cars are stolen, they have led to injuries,
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they've led to death, they've led to other
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crimes being committed using those
10:40
vehicles. Hyundai and Kia have
10:42
left us no choice but
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to call on the federal government
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to either order a mandatory recall or
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work with the companies to institute
10:52
a voluntary recall of the affected
10:54
vehicles. Kia says the
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lawsuits are without merit. Hyundai
10:59
called litigation against it improper and
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unnecessary. And both companies
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say a recall isn't needed because
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their vehicles meet federal requirements. Kia
11:08
today and Hyundai as well say
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that they had sufficient anti-theft
11:13
protections on the vehicle as governed
11:16
under the federal motor vehicle regulations. And
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therefore the vehicles aren't defective and that these
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thieves, as they call them, have
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simply found a way around these anti-theft
11:26
protections. So far,
11:28
regulators haven't issued a recall.
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Kia and Hyundai also say that the reason
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other cars without immobilizers aren't stolen
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like this is because they're not being targeted
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on social media.
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Until these videos came out, you know,
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you were unlikely to have your car stolen if you had a
11:46
hand area Kia. Now, depending
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on where you live, it might be the most stolen
11:50
vehicle. So sort of like Ford
11:52
boys just hasn't really taken off yet. Well,
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yeah, and I'm sure Ford is hoping they don't.
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Still, pressure has been building on Hyundai
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Ever since the Kia boys showed the world just
12:59
how easy it is to steal a Kia or Hyundai,
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the companies have been scrambling to contain the problem.
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In the short term, the companies have been handing
13:09
out steering wheel locks to car owners. You
13:11
might have seen these things called the
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club or other similar devices
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that prevent the steering wheel from moving, even if
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they're broken into.
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They've also come up with a more permanent
13:21
solution, an upgrade that can make older
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keys mimic what an engine immobilizer does.
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Kia and Hyundai owners can bring their cars into a
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dealership and have it installed. Hyundai
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and Kia have contacted owners by mail,
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advertised on social media and
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set up a website where people can check to see if
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their cars at risk. But getting
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this fixed rolled out to eight million potential
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customers hasn't been easy. With
13:46
anything like this,
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where you've got millions of vehicles on the road, these
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things
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take time. And historically speaking,
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the completion rate,
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they call it of like a recall or any of these repairs,
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is fairly low.
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percentage-wise. And part
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of it is because, you know, if you've got a 2011 Hyundai or
14:05
Kia, you might be the second, third,
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maybe even fourth owner. And those folks
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tend not to take it to a Hyundai or
14:12
Kia dealership for repairs or for an oil chain.
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So they may not hear about this unless they're conscientious
14:17
about it themselves.
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Since the program started in February, about 600,000
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Kias and Hyundai's have
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received the fix. That's about one
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in every 13 cars that need it.
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The companies are also trying to stop those videos
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from spreading on social media. Hyundai
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and Kia currently are
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employing a media agency to watch social
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media 24-7 to try
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to flag these videos to prevent them from
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proliferating on the social media platforms.
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They say that there is a direct
14:51
connection between where these videos go viral
14:53
and a spike in thefts, and therefore
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they are trying to
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get these social media companies
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to take down these videos as quickly as possible.
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A spokeswoman for TikTok said the videos
15:05
of Kia and Hyundai thefts are quote, not
15:07
a TikTok trend. Instagram
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says it's removed flagged content that
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breaks its rules or promotes crime. For
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Kia and Hyundai, the challenge isn't just
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cutting down on future thefts though. They're
15:20
also struggling to fix the cars that have already
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been stolen.
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Cars have been in the shop
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waiting for parts. One
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dealer referred to it as intergalactic backorder.
15:31
You know the challenge for these manufacturers
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is you know if you've got a car that
15:35
was made in 2011, which is about as far back
15:38
as this problem goes, you know you've
15:40
stopped manufacturing these cars and you have to estimate
15:42
how many of these parts you're going to need. And
15:44
Hyundai and Kia did not anticipate needing
15:47
hundreds of thousands of plastic
15:49
steering column covers. And that's one
15:52
of the things that's really on backorder right
15:54
now.
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The specific part underneath
15:56
the steering wheel. And they've been
15:58
working to build up a supply. but talking
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to dealers at minimum, you're
16:05
looking at a 10-day wait. All
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of this, the sourcing of new parts,
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the software
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fixes, the free steering wheel locks, it's
16:20
all costing Hyundai and Kia money. And
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on top of that, Kia and Hyundai settled a class
16:27
action lawsuit last week. And they're not getting the companies overall.
16:33
Look, I think it's difficult to quantify the impact on
16:35
a company from something like this. I
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mean, there is...the hard impact is obviously, you know, your $200
16:43
million and the costs associated with rolling out repairs for all of these vehicles
16:45
that are affected.
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But if you look
16:48
at the raw numbers, Hyundai and Kia sales are going
16:50
up in the U.S.
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So there seems to be no immediate
16:56
concrete impact on the
16:58
business as a whole. There might not
17:00
be an impact now, but it's hard to
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predict what it might do to the brand long term.
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I definitely feel like their name's been
17:10
a little tarnished for me. When
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Shania first got her Kia Sportage,
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she said she really liked it. It was a big
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upgrade from an old SUV she'd been driving.
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How do you feel about the car now?
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I just feel...I think a good example is
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when my dog was in the car, when the
17:28
police came. This was after the
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second time where Kia was stolen. He
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didn't want to get back in the car. He literally sat on
17:35
the floor in the middle of the street and was like, I'm
17:37
not getting in there. And I totally
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feel like that. I'm like, do I really have
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to get in this car?
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When does your lease expire? Next
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year. Are you looking forward to that
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day? Yeah, I mean, I'm hoping
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to have it sooner. I'll say that much.
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Uh-huh. And what kind of car do you think you'll
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get next? Anything
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but a Kia.
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