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I spent the last 15 years of my life fighting
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like hell to make sure that I never ended up
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The White Vault. Goshawk. The
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White Vault. Goshawk. Goshawk.
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The White Vault. Goshawk.
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about how you and your lady friend
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are gonna meet up. Now
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that people we're looking for are gonna tag along. It
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just seemed like everybody was getting ready to walk
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to somewhere in your... ...hot in mind,
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you know about. So... What
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you just tell us for that point is...
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...we can leave you alone.
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We'll just pick up the girls and head
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on back. We don't know about
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you, but...
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...I think that sounds... awful
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fair.
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Don't it?
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I... I... I don't know. Oh...
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Let's see, you had that stupid-ass
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look on your face. So
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I just knew you were
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gonna lie to me. I heard you
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talking to her. I
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heard you.
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So I know you know where you're
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going. I'm not... No,
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but you see though, I'm not... ...fucking around.
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You can answer the question. Where's
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the hot in mind you were gonna meet him at?
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But if he heard you, then why lie? It's
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just a waste of time, and it's getting
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colder. You're
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right though. We're stuck out here in
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the middle of winter too. Like
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you... I don't wanna be out here. And
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yeah... The snow's coming down harder
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and harder. I
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wanna be inside, in the warm,
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drinking and watching a game.
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And the faster you tell me where they are,
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the quicker
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I can make that happen. What
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the hell was that? You heard that
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before. You don't
5:45
look worried. What is that?
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Don't know. Ryan
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again. Well, I've
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got bullets for you and it, so...
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I don't know. What
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the heck?
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They don't generally come near people.
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They hunt hares and birds.
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A wild cat. Back
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to the question, son. Where are they
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going?
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How do I know you'll let me go? What about
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Ithi? She's not who
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you're here looking for. She hasn't done anything except try to
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help people. She's just a photographer
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like me. Wrong place, wrong
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time. You two ain't
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part of the job. If she cooperates,
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then we won't have an issue.
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It
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seems like
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you already know your girl's going to be a problem.
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No, she won't be. Now,
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if you let me talk to her. We'll see
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if we get to.
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First off,
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start off simple. Just like last
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time.
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Where are they
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going? I...
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I knew
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you were going to tell me the truth. So
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it may have been a little
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bit early, but deserved.
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I can see it in your face.
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Come on, just tell us. We don't have all
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night. It's fucking cold. I'm
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not going to. Alright.
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Gag him. Make
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sure he stays quiet. You got it. What
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are you doing? I can't see anything.
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There's still a gun at your head. Sit down.
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You
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got no sense of self-preservation?
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You think he
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doesn't know your gun does? Hand
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me the radio.
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We'll see
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if they fall for the bait then. Yeah,
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we'll see. Nah,
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it's fine. Go,
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go. It
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is your fault. And
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that he's not all these flops, so that he
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wouldn't bark alone if it's just
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doing so to this K. football playing
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wits and all that kind of stuff. It's my fault. I
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made the line. I
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don't think we should have a plate of fire, but
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when we sit down, I have a couple
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of little warm hacks in the bag you can pop.
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And Jean will be bringing a few extra bits of clothing
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from the person who's left. At
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least I have some. Yeah,
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yeah, good eye. It's
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the best.
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It's a blind forgetting
9:07
good shot. It's not a hunt or
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anything. We don't
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usually stay in them for the sake of work.
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And we're not going inside.
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I mean, we could. But
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it's not why we're here. So
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why did we come
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here? She
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knows where it is. We've
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done a lot of work here. Otherwise,
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we would have to wait for him to find
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this little forest.
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And
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that way, let's get those hands
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warm right now.
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Here, Haddell, check
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your foot. If you can,
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warm up some cloth and wrap
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it around your foot.
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But it's just for you.
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How
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long do you think we'll need to wait? Maybe
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an hour or so. It
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took me about 20 minutes
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to get here, same for him to get to the
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lake. So 40
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minutes
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plus packing time,
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plus hiking with extra
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weight on the sled.
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Maybe an hour and a half.
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Freaking old. I
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know. I made my
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foot.
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You know that thermal blanket you
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took? Open it, wrap
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you and Adele up in it with the hand warmer,
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and try not to leave any holes where
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heated air can escape at the top. Okay. Do
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you still have it?
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Oh, yeah.
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Wait, isn't this thing
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really shiny?
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It would be really easy to notice I feel,
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wouldn't it? You may
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be right. Usually
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that's a good
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thing. Okay.
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Go back to my foot first. Is
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there anything we can do about it? What
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if I ever ask my... No, you're
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right. Sorry, take a seat. I'll
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look at it. Let
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me...
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You already took some socks. They
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still look dry.
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Your toes are
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pale, but they don't look or she or frozen.
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The best idea is just to warm yourself slowly. It's
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going to hurt like crazy when you get some circulation
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back, but that at least means it's still
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feeling something. You don't,
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don't put the warm pack directly
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on the skin. It will burn. Those toes
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are strong.
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And sometimes you won't feel it burn on
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a limb like this. Okay. Good.
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Why is it happening? Why?
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Shh. Yeah, I know.
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But we're better than this. We'll get
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home.
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Are you two related?
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Sisters? Pretty
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much. We're actually cousins, but
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we grew up together.
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It's, um, your
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very good sister.
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Oh,
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shh.
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Just the radio.
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Why's it doing that? What does it
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mean? I don't... no.
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Perhaps the sound it makes when someone on the
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other end of your channel pops a button
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quickly.
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But Gene's never done that before. Why
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are you sisters? I
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don't know. Or... No. It could be a trap.
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Give me a minute. Let me think.
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If it is Gene, he's never done that
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before. He may have
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spotted the kidnappers and is trying
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to let us know.
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But if he's near them, he might be trying to stay
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quiet. If so, why I shouldn't
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respond back, it may be too loud.
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Oh,
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he's hiding too. It's Ben.
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They might have a radio, and you know your channel
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or a signal or whatever. Do
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they have a radio? I don't
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remember. When we were driving,
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they would talk on a cell
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phone a lot. But not since we got into
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the woods. Maybe they
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don't have anything that works out here.
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What do we do? He... If
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it was Gene...
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Gene, on purpose to tell us
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about the kidnappers? Well, he's
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dust. No reply needed. If
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it's the kidnappers, there's also no reply
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needed. If
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Gene needs help, though...
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No, no,
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no, he... he'd say something.
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I think it's them.
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You... you know... it's
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them. Then
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we won't respond. If
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it's Gene,
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eventually the men will leave, and then
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he'll say something.
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Alright, girls. It's
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about time to come back now. You
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recognize the voice? The war
14:52
is gone. Don't respond. Don't say anything.
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Listen, we know there's a woman
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with you. I think the name was... Ify.
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Right? Well,
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Ify, we found a fellow
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photographer.
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Okay, well, Ify, we'll
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tell us where you are, hand
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over to girls without any flaws,
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and... We'll leave
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you and your boys for tomorrow. Otherwise,
15:28
uh... bad
15:30
things are gonna happen. You...
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you can't... you can't help. We
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can leave. If you don't know where we are, then
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you can't tell them. Send us. Nobody
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is going anywhere. If
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you
15:45
leave, you're just going to think I'm the wife.
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We need...
15:48
something.
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It sounds like they overheard our last conversation,
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but they wouldn't know we were the blinders since all
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they had was...
15:59
the number not the location. You
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can't trust them. Don't trust a thing
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they say. There's no way they'd let you just
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walk away. I'm
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not very patient, so. No.
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No. No. No. No.
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No. No. No.
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No. No. No.
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No. No. No. No.
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No. No. No.
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No. No. No.
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No.
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No. No. No.
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Oh, geez. Give
16:35
me
16:35
the goddamn radio. Yes,
16:38
yes, this is her, this is Evie. Don't hurt Jane.
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Jane, are you all right, Jane?
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This seems your friend burned
16:47
his finger. The wilderness
16:50
is a dangerous place.
16:53
Well, it's not something that could ruin
16:55
the bright future of a photographer. Help!
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Help!
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It's
17:01
a bit hard to understand at the moment,
17:04
but Evie,
17:06
I think he wants to know if those
17:09
girls are worth his life.
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Hey, fuck. Well,
17:16
I'm sorry, but please, you
17:19
can't tell them.
17:20
I don't know how.
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What do I do?
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What, what, what? Jane?
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Are you okay? If
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you're alive, can you say something? Evie,
17:50
get them out. Let's get
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back there. I'm a little
17:54
bit old, I think. I just
17:57
got laid around. Oh,
18:00
I must win now. Are we scared again? Gene?
18:12
Gene? We
18:18
don't need to worry. What's
18:21
fine? We're trying to
18:23
run off, but we stopped them. The
18:26
bullets in the leg will do that. Must
18:29
have heard something awful.
18:32
They shot him.
18:33
Gene?
18:37
Gene? I
18:39
didn't hear a gunshot. They're not
18:41
close. They've got to be at
18:43
least two kilometers away.
18:45
I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Please, Gene.
18:50
Please. Gene.
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Gene?
19:00
Are you... okay?
19:04
Talk to me. Gene?
19:58
Gene?
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Excuse me, English? Yes.
20:07
How can I help you?
20:09
My daughter, Artna
20:11
Diesch, she was admitted
20:13
after the climate protest attack. I
20:16
got a call saying that she was here. I have
20:20
an ID, a passport,
20:21
a photo of us, a student's driver's
20:23
card, a certificate.
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I'm her mother. Please.
20:30
Where's my Artna? Yes, please.
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Don't worry. She's here. If you give me a moment... I
20:34
will take her in to see her daughter. This
20:37
is one of our nurses. She'll take you to your daughter's. Please
20:40
come with me. Yes, of course.
20:45
I'm Matty. I'm one of the nurses on
20:47
the daughter's table. But
20:49
she's still not awake. Is she okay?
20:52
The hospital only
20:54
said they called me if something bad happened, and
20:56
I haven't heard anything since. Yes.
20:59
Sorry. We've been overwhelmed since the attack.
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Did you get any information about what
21:03
happened? Nothing. Just
21:06
that she was at the protest and got hit?
21:09
No. Maybe that was a mistake due to
21:11
a translation, but she did hit her head. She
21:14
and her friends were in the crowd when the three vehicles
21:16
approached. She didn't get hit
21:18
by a vehicle, but she struck her head on the ground
21:20
when she jumped out of the wall.
21:22
Apparently, your daughter is rather
21:24
brave.
21:25
Her friends all say she pushed them
21:27
out of the way before jumping. So
21:29
she...
21:31
she wasn't hit by the cars?
21:34
No, but the impact to her head has
21:36
left her unconscious. But it's
21:38
been less than 24 hours, and the doctors
21:40
all think she woke up soon. And
21:43
now, from the heart injury, is she
21:45
okay? A few scrapes and bruises
21:47
from the crowd compete, and one broken metacarpal
21:49
in the right act. She might be sore
21:51
when she wakes up, but she should make a quick
21:54
recovery. Here we are. Oh,
21:58
my God!
21:59
Mr. Tullamis?
22:03
Everything still looks fine. There
22:05
is a police officer coming around to talk to all
22:08
those injured in the Granbok protest event, so
22:10
Anna will need to speak with them before we discharge
22:12
her. Of course, that will
22:14
be after she
22:15
wakes up. I think I
22:17
talk together with Dr. Albrecht
22:19
Gärst. Gärst? Please,
22:23
feel together, Miesz.
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Okay. Okay. Is
22:30
it permitted for me to stay with her,
22:33
just for now? Of course. I'll
22:36
come back in an hour or so to check on her again. Here's
22:39
a seat. There's a family lounge
22:41
just under the hall with coffee and tea should
22:43
you need any. Take your time.
22:49
You're so stupid.
22:53
You're so stupid. I can't understand
22:55
this. I
22:58
don't understand this. How could
23:00
this even happen to her? To
23:02
us?
23:04
I'm sorry.
23:05
I wasn't there. I never should have
23:07
let this happen. I never should have
23:09
happened.
23:19
Please, now. Can I get
23:21
a word of her? Yes.
23:24
Yes. She's still asleep.
23:27
She hit the hat on the
23:28
concrete when she jumped from the way of a car.
23:32
It was an accident. An
23:35
accident. How? I
23:37
don't understand. Neither do I.
23:40
How could this happen
23:42
to her? How? She's
23:45
my... She's my daughter. A
23:48
true daughter.
23:50
My daughter.
23:51
I know, Miesz. But
23:53
she's alive. Not everyone
23:56
can say that today. Everyone
23:59
is on edge, confused.
23:59
Well done, nose. Well
24:02
done, nose. Things
24:04
are in motion, please. Keep us safe.
24:30
Please.
24:31
Are you... okay?
24:36
Talk to me. You
24:46
shot my foot, dude. Oh,
24:49
sorry. Looks
24:51
like I'm not gonna get to help you out this time.
24:54
Well, just a bit, son. What
24:57
about you, man? What's the point?
25:00
Ready to make a train?
25:06
I'm not looking to stay on the call by night.
25:10
I'm thinking... I
25:13
wouldn't get to my parents. Just
25:16
hand them over. They'll
25:18
have to be quiet. You
25:21
can't stop!
25:22
I'm not going to give you over to them. It's
25:24
not happening.
25:27
I'm not doing that, but... But
25:30
what do we... What can we do
25:32
about Gene?
25:34
He said this would happen.
25:35
He said we should have stayed hidden and
25:37
found out more. We won't
25:38
be due problems. They'll kill you. You
25:41
can't trust what they say. No.
25:47
They... You think they'll kill Gene?
25:53
No, we should just go find him. I know,
25:55
but... I know, but...
25:59
And if we had Gene, then...
25:59
Yeah,
26:01
but they have Jean and a gun.
26:04
They shot him. He
26:07
can't walk back to Allagash now. He
26:10
has a satellite phone. We can't even call for help
26:13
without him.
26:13
Shit.
26:20
So
26:21
what do we do? Do
26:24
we set a trap? Are you joking?
26:27
He just said it. We have a gun
26:29
and I really can't even reach you people. We
26:32
can't even trap all them. They're monsters. She's
26:35
right.
26:36
One of them. F. The guy
26:38
on the radio, he's
26:39
evil. He's in it for
26:41
the money or something, but
26:42
he doesn't care who he hurts.
26:43
How about this? In
26:46
a minute, I break into one of the spaders.
26:49
So I'm gonna, I may
26:51
be enough someone to tell me. And
26:55
to clarify, if you like me, your
26:59
boyfriend is not much of a vocal player
27:01
to see.
27:04
I need, I need time
27:06
to think.
27:08
Mika, take it. Take
27:11
the radio from me. Steal it from me when I open
27:13
the channel. Fight me, fake it. I
27:15
just need to make some time to think.
27:17
What? Fight me for the radio. Do
27:19
it now. I,
27:21
we're
27:22
near a hundred. You bitch. You're
27:24
gonna sell us out, not. I'm
27:28
gonna sell you out.
27:31
Did it work? What do we
27:34
do now? Thinking, I'm thinking.
27:41
We gotta go.
27:42
Get away from here. Sorry about your foot and your
27:44
leg, but we've gotta move. Jean's got a mouth
27:46
in his bag. I don't know if they've seen it yet. So
27:49
if I lie, they might
27:50
know. But if we get away from here, I
27:52
can confirm it for them. They'll head here and
27:54
we can loop back around to find Jean in a few hours.
27:56
Sheesh.
28:00
I'm fine.
28:02
There. There's
28:05
an old logging bay that's...
28:07
that way. I can't believe anything
28:09
we don't need. You're
28:14
leaving the camera? Yeah.
28:17
Too heavy. We'll need to go as fast
28:19
as we can.
28:20
Memory cards, I'll
28:23
take. Adele, put
28:25
the camera over there in the smooth. Cover
28:27
the snow up over the top of the camera cover. Yeah,
28:30
okay. Mika,
28:32
how fast can you really move? Need a
28:34
sprint, but... I
28:36
can keep up, but not really fast.
28:39
Not sprinting.
28:40
Neither can Adele. But, right. Really.
28:44
What are these guys like? Do
28:47
they
28:47
seem like they know the forest well? Know
28:49
how to hunt or track?
28:52
No, they hate the trailer and the snow.
28:54
I think they're from the States. Okay.
28:56
But
28:58
we'll still be cautious. I'll
29:00
take the supplies, it'll slow me down, but
29:02
it should be fine. We
29:05
can't leave with nothing.
29:07
Give me back the radio.
29:10
You sure?
29:12
No. Not
29:14
at all.
29:16
Go on that way.
29:18
West.
29:19
I don't get
29:20
it. Where are we going? If
29:22
they have a map...
29:24
They might think we're headed to the Alagash River, which
29:27
would have been my first plan. But
29:30
with you both hurt, we're going
29:31
to be a lot slower than them.
29:33
We'll choose a different route. We'll go west
29:35
to the St. John's River, then head for the
29:37
border. The towns are closer.
29:40
Walk in front of me. Stay in a
29:42
single-file line. I'll tell
29:44
you where to go when I catch up. Try
29:46
to step on rocks or logs, not the deep
29:49
snow. Help each other if needed.
29:50
What are you
29:52
doing? If
29:55
we're lucky, they don't know how to
29:57
track at all. I don't think
29:59
they can.
29:59
They didn't find you, but I'm
30:02
not leaving it to Jane.
30:04
I'll cover some of the visible footprints and
30:06
knock out some snow to cover others. And
30:09
when I get on the radio again, don't
30:11
make a peep. Yeah, I got
30:13
it. Got it. What
30:16
about the snow in the cold? It's only
30:18
getting worse. We're lucky. The
30:21
fresh
30:21
snow will help cover our tracks, but we have
30:23
to make them first.
30:25
Yeah, moving. I'll be right behind you. I'll
30:32
tell you.
30:38
Good
30:44
choice. Those girls
30:46
are causing you no trouble. Even
30:51
when I tell you, the
30:53
girls are gonna run away. I can't
30:55
stop them.
30:57
Thank you,
31:04
The one Jean was headed to. Yes,
31:08
Rita. This is taking too long. I
31:11
wouldn't hate to get bored.
31:18
I just need to be sure
31:20
I can give you directions from where you
31:22
are.
31:23
Head north along the lake.
31:25
The lake has a brook at the
31:27
northmost end. It'll
31:29
be frozen over this time of year, but it will still
31:31
be there. Follow the brook
31:33
north until you reach a point where that part of the
31:35
brook and another
31:36
part come together. At
31:39
that point, go directly
31:40
northwest for just over a kilometer. That's
31:45
where I left all the girls.
31:48
It's another little blind we use for
31:49
taking photos now. Let me speak
31:51
to Jean.
31:59
The second girl's not alive, huh? Ify,
32:02
you gotta run. Don't let them find you.
32:04
It's cheaper than I am. Gene!
32:07
Gene! Ify! Gene! Get
32:09
out of the car. I'll
32:13
see you in the car. Aaaaaah!
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