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It seems like it was just mere months ago

1:21

we were talking about the hot mess covert

1:23

Olympics in Japan and now

1:25

it's already time and talk about the covert Olympics in

1:27

China, it might be a little early

1:29

to determine whether it's gonna be a mess

1:31

or not, though. It's gonna be a mess. I

1:34

prefer.

1:37

"It's gonna be an extraordinary Olympics is

1:39

that the diplomatic boycotts and is geopolitical",

1:41

tensions said. The got hurt and fucking announced

1:44

the boycott fighting China.

1:45

ongoing genocide and human rights

1:47

abuses and then you've got a population

1:49

that is then trained to be hyper alert

1:51

about everything because the teeth knocked.

1:53

out of it The neighborhood's travel restrictions.

1:59

The divert attention.

2:00

Like the most anti eco they're bringing and

2:03

thousands, of athletes and journalist during journalist pretty

2:05

sad time in the global pandemic the only

2:07

clone variances clone the move countries across

2:09

the world of stuff thing to see a dramatic

2:12

rise in the number of the daily recorded cases

2:14

of covert nineteenth and it'll get interesting

2:21

Then. Only thing is amp yards be doing

2:23

correspondent the games don't get underway

2:25

until February fourth, but she's

2:27

been reporting and the drama that torch

2:30

has been lit for months the winter. Olympics

2:32

are always a subtle for animal control

2:34

on Sultana, thought of as a little to highlight

2:37

how the country developed from the told me on all

2:39

about.

2:48

When you add to it into it, now it's also

2:50

the ancient times.

2:52

Can I control the epidemic and maintain

2:54

this year ago the policy is even less thousands

2:56

of people flying and?

2:57

And we spoke to you not too

2:59

long ago about China zero covert

3:01

policies, tell me. What

3:04

they're doing to somehow pull

3:06

off winter games while

3:08

trying to maintain this sort of zero

3:10

covered environment, the what is a day?

3:13

The Chinese media is closed

3:15

loop A. closed

3:17

Luke was closed loop, a close to be

3:19

closed loop, this is their central idea

3:21

they're going to.

3:22

The A what they call closed loop all

3:24

around a james thousands of athletes

3:26

and officials will be confined to

3:28

a closed loop basically.

3:31

bubbles of walled off hotels

3:33

and then use accessible only to them

3:35

everyone going in and out of these facility

3:37

is one

3:38

You up on top of the rest of Asia

3:40

China can I say things like a?

3:43

car

3:43

The all within the physical bubble keeping.

3:45

our class separate myself and

3:48

then once where they're pcr check every

3:50

single day if anyone those are positive it is

3:52

straight to quarantine facilities so

3:54

effective conceptual dude

3:56

where everyone is shut and side they

3:59

can eat

4:00

He and tracks a sort

4:02

of as normal, but they're basically cut

4:04

off from there.

4:05

If greater China too, so it's kind of

4:07

like what we saw may be back in

4:09

twenty with these and ba

4:11

an NHL bubbles, but for

4:14

an entire Olympic Games is that fair.

4:16

Yeah. These will be bubbles like

4:18

the world has never seen Tokyo,

4:20

sort of did this with the summer Olympics

4:23

and they have done this and as another countries

4:25

but China is. Taking this

4:28

to another level these bubbles

4:30

are going to be incredibly tight these old.

4:33

some of them of right in the middle of downtown

4:35

beijing so the results will be quite

4:37

high as anyone messes up Me.

4:46

The result they're asking all staff

4:48

sorcerers in these athletes to go into

4:50

the bubble so to speak two to three

4:52

weeks in advance so most of the staff are

4:54

already inside while in some cases

4:57

the. special vehicles that are bringing the athletes

5:00

and journalists from for to say are

5:02

off limits ah authorities in beijing

5:04

have even gone so far as to say if you see

5:06

one of these vehicles do not

5:09

touch it like under no circumstances even

5:11

as the car isn't car crash you

5:13

see people in medical need sooner

5:15

approach these people call nine one or

5:18

the chinese equivalent of nine one and a special

5:20

ambulance specifically designated

5:22

to serve olympic personnel will come by

5:24

so that there is no risk of cozy

5:27

transmission fluid and china

5:29

has indicated that people might even be

5:31

held criminally liable as they break

5:33

And. He covered roles so,

5:36

this concept of a bubble has been used before

5:38

and other sports events but China

5:40

is going to enforce it think to

5:42

a degree that is. More strict than I think anyone

5:45

has experienced, this is what gets me

5:47

worried because they don't think that athletes

5:49

and journalists were coming and are fully

5:51

mentally prepared or they. Haven't fully,

5:53

grasped just how seriously

5:56

trying to takes anti. covert policies i'm

5:58

sure i'll seats and journalists

6:00

Rod a handbook for aging of put I'll

6:02

and seen what the testing regime and is going

6:04

to be like, but in practice

6:06

it is going to be implemented with zero forgiveness

6:09

and zero room for negotiation.

6:12

So what does is practically mean for an athlete

6:14

who say, you know, has been training

6:16

for four years straight for these

6:18

games who potentially tests

6:21

positive this is no question there on

6:23

the first trained to

6:25

quarantine.

6:26

Yeah, there's no negotiation if you'd have positive,

6:29

you are immediately isolated and your

6:31

own individual hotel room or.

6:34

According. To the International Olympic Committee playbook

6:36

for athletes and team officials paid

6:38

thirty six once you've tested positive

6:41

for Kovac Nineteen, you'll be isolated

6:43

in a hospital or isolation facility

6:45

depending upon. Whether or not you have symptoms

6:48

you may be discharged from isolation

6:50

once you've done three days without a fever

6:52

and tested negative for Kobe Nineteen

6:54

on two consecutive days for.

6:58

So for someone who has positives

7:00

like the week before the competition,

7:02

there's no guarantee that even if their

7:04

asymptomatic, they will get out and

7:06

time to attend.

7:08

The competition and that can be devastating for an

7:10

athlete has been training for years and.

7:13

for office as a huge concern because

7:15

Then. Bubble, there's going to minimize physical interaction,

7:18

but I can imagine that on the plane load over

7:21

or, even eating and the Olympic champion that some

7:23

kind of local transmission might. Happen

7:25

so there's that x factor that athletes

7:28

can't control, and whether

7:30

or not they'll be able to compete night kind of be added

7:32

their. hands if you're a close

7:34

contact of someone you

7:37

test negative propose that you don't have symptoms

7:40

According to the International Olympic Committee

7:42

Playbook for athletes and team officials

7:45

paid thirty seven if you were confirmed

7:47

as a close contact you will have

7:49

a long list of rules to follow

7:52

here. are a few You will have to

7:54

be quarantined in a single room

7:56

eat. alone have your temperature

7:58

checked it twice a day The and test

8:01

negative for Kobe nineteen fourteen

8:03

times over the course of seven days.

8:07

You will be allowed to compete.

8:09

If you have negative six hours before your competition

8:12

so, there has been some thought

8:15

put into place to allow athletes

8:17

said participate even if they've

8:19

been exposed. and i have to note

8:21

that is rules are way more of way lot

8:24

Then. What actually happens in the rusticana

8:26

if you're close contact for us to come down

8:28

the covert, who's so facing

8:31

a clue he made some allowances to

8:33

that the Olympics happen, but? They're

8:35

still going to be very, very strict rules in place,

8:37

and I can imagine some athletes and

8:39

teammates might be upset. When

8:41

I run up against.

8:42

This. Was it hard to then, you know,

8:44

if you get it, you can't compete near on the don't

8:46

sport, and that's like if I'd say

8:48

my biggest worry about going over to? Beijing

8:50

and it's getting coven and for those athletes

8:53

who are trying to participate here they have

8:55

to download. The app for.

8:58

Sort of self tracking. What's

9:01

going on there?

9:01

The AMT so the I'd mention how complicated

9:03

it has to get into China sedating authorities

9:05

is designed as app that will help manage all

9:08

this fall a little steaks and center.

9:10

has said if each day whether or not you're a close

9:12

contact it's also supposed to be a messaging for

9:14

and the journalists and athletes coming

9:16

to attend the games only to get this it

9:19

turns out that this mother op is Not

9:22

encrypted. Me. whatsoever thousands

9:25

of athletes, officials and reporters

9:27

traveling to China for the upcoming Winter

9:29

Olympics risk having their online

9:31

communications hacked to the official

9:34

app for the event and so it is. Very easy

9:36

for whoever designed the off to access all

9:38

the health records, travel history and

9:40

messages office and journalists are

9:43

uploading into this up on. top

9:45

of this the op apparently contains apparently censorship

9:48

list as politically sensitive terms and

9:50

phrases that if wanted the app

9:52

developers could act as act and then block

9:54

any discussion that uses these politically

9:56

sensitive terms like seen

9:58

job or to bed So

10:00

to me they say such a stark contrast

10:03

to why. The lack of into games

10:05

are supposed to mean for China and two thousand

10:08

Ah.

10:16

He. Was an old China has to the summer Olympics

10:18

not supposed to be a way to,

10:20

open up the country to liberalize it's

10:22

internet controls and those

10:24

specific clauses in China's?

10:26

Bed for the Beijing Olympics that they would

10:28

lessen their media censorship and maybe even

10:31

I'm free up the Internet, the they would at least get

10:33

free internet to people within the. Olympic

10:35

facilities. this time around

10:38

not only has none of that happened but they're asking

10:40

everyone who comes to the games to down this upset

10:43

basically allows The

10:45

develop get to spy on these

10:47

attendees says said the contrast is

10:49

really ironic to me.

10:51

You might want to toss your photo the trash after plague

10:53

of this case. Many media freedoms

10:55

organizations are recommending. People. Bring a burner sound

10:57

to China, think that's probably the right advice, because

10:59

the chances are if you bring of a device

11:02

you put on the wire by chests are you gonna? Go home

11:04

with some amount of Chinese malware on your system,

11:06

and as you allow them to gotta back, that's how do

11:08

their own citizens feel about athletes

11:10

getting a pass and.

11:12

And loosening of restrictions

11:15

to allow a bunch of foreigners into

11:17

the country to compete in these games had

11:19

of the Chinese people feel about after making so

11:21

many sacrifices for so. Long.

11:24

Most people haven't actually to play, but

11:26

ah what they are seeing eye, the barrier

11:28

is going up around the close lips, the

11:30

aclu sleeps right now are being walled off by

11:32

chicken wire and sheet metal and

11:35

mostly play tough to so pretty comforted by this barrier.

11:38

My everything is your loss, how

11:40

do you have any contact whatsoever with the thorn

11:42

athletes and saw?

11:43

The scene lockdowns before they know

11:45

what how China deals with close contacts and positive

11:48

cases.

11:49

The Chinese health officials publicize the

11:51

infected person's recent travel history

11:53

starting with their home area.

11:58

You can hear this is one of the entrance. It

12:00

says and exits gated,

12:02

off

12:03

The, but his big blue barriers

12:06

to keep folks from going in and out.

12:08

Note: "Passing of a lot of trust in the process

12:10

and people living around say they trust authorities

12:13

to keep and sections within that

12:15

space rather than let them spread across China,

12:18

but that being said people are really anxious

12:20

because. There. Have been forever Amir Khan

12:22

and Delta cases around the country, the our

12:24

cities that are still under lockdown, there

12:26

are parts as they jane that are under lockdown as we

12:28

speak. Because of positive cases people,

12:31

worried that the Olympics could make rules

12:33

even more strict and the next month's and so

12:35

people are cancelling holiday travel basically

12:38

everyone I know has. Been hoarding food.

12:40

know that there's any sign beijing as

12:43

a city will go under lockdown or that food

12:45

shipments in an hour will be frozen but

12:48

there's always the sphere The in

12:50

China bad. You could be locked

12:52

and any moment Arab and horror stories of people

12:54

stuck without food for weeks at a time inside

12:56

their own apartments.

12:57

Well, so moguls aren't exactly

12:59

getting in line to watch these games, which

13:01

I believe they're now not allowed to do anymore anyway.

13:04

Due. To a quote severe and complex

13:07

covered nation's situation tickets for

13:09

the upcoming season, Winter Olympic Games

13:11

will not be sold to the general public, authorities

13:14

are always that wishy washy about. Whether they

13:16

would sell tickets how these people would enter

13:18

the stadiums who would be invited

13:20

to attend the. never officially

13:23

confirmed that they were actually going to sell

13:25

tickets and this is a question The

13:27

always dodged at press conferences

13:29

when journalists like me would ask so,

13:32

I suspect that they never planned on open this

13:34

up to the general public. and

13:36

instead what they'll have now as though invite

13:39

us both for and in chinese we're

13:41

currently living in beijing to attend It

13:44

seems to be mostly empty. And

13:47

most foreign attendees to be diplomats

13:49

and journalists, as well as maybe

13:51

some high ranking executives, said multinational.

13:54

Where'd you hear it sounds like China's

13:56

taking every precaution here though

13:58

they are still loosening? The

14:00

rules to accommodate these games but

14:03

if. this all goes haywire and there is massive

14:05

breakouts and no one

14:08

country's team is sends

14:10

me to another country's team and it's transmitting

14:13

to officials or referees

14:15

or whatever it is Who

14:17

did gains be delayed or even

14:19

cancelled because of oh my

14:21

god? That on the table.

14:23

No, absolutely not, it

14:25

would just be too much of the PRC Oscar for China,

14:28

they would rather rest the Cs go as having

14:30

massive transmission within the bubbles

14:32

rather than cancel the games.

14:42

The Chinese leaders the Games has become. Symbol

14:46

of how China has conquered the epidemic

14:49

and how they're able to hold a global event like

14:51

this and so they have too much

14:53

riding on having the games continue

14:55

as planned to cancel

14:57

any same last minute like this I.

15:00

do you imagine that there are going to be some

15:03

Negative. Stories coming out in the next few

15:05

weeks about athletes who are,

15:07

pulled from their beds at two a.m. by people

15:10

a hazmat suits because if test positive

15:12

or entire team. That protest because

15:14

every once and designated close contact and

15:16

they cannot make their match. but

15:18

china would rather have that have been cancelled

15:20

the games overall

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17:29

Emily, you mentioned earlier in the show, that

17:31

it's mostly going to be journalists and

17:33

diplomats in the crowd during

17:35

these Beijing, twenty two

17:38

winter games, but that

17:40

being said there's been a lotta. The diplomatic.

17:43

boycotting going on, tell us more about all

17:46

of that.

17:46

The number of countries but you give us

17:49

have been leading a diplomatic white hot meaning they're

17:51

not going to send high level officials to represent

17:53

those countries during. any as

17:55

the game events will not be contributing

17:58

to the sand As the game. The US

18:00

or a despot this quickly got any other country

18:03

is mostly European ones and Canada

18:05

and Australia on board.

18:07

The country and in as, many

18:09

partners around the world we are extremely

18:12

concerned that is why are

18:14

we are announcing today that we will

18:16

not be sending any diplomatic representation?

18:20

to the beijing olympics paralympic

18:22

games this winter

18:23

This was in response to

18:25

human rights abuses that China has been perpetuating

18:28

and that governments around the world have criticized

18:31

and, instead of having a full boycott

18:33

were even assets are not allowed to attend

18:35

the us has compromised by simply saying we're just

18:37

not going to send official representative us

18:39

diplomatic or official representation

18:42

would treat these games as business as usual

18:45

in the face of the pier sees egregious

18:47

human rights abuses and atrocities

18:49

engines on and we simply can't

18:52

do that does not mean that us diplomats

18:54

won't be

18:55

Game events, they just won't be in

18:57

an official capacity, and they won't be attending say

19:00

the opening ceremony other countries

19:02

have stepped up and well as the U. S. is boycotting.

19:04

We're going to make a and send our leaders

19:06

to show our support for China so

19:08

far that list is quite short, but it includes russia

19:11

Poland. They will send their presidents

19:14

with an open ceremony

19:15

wedding

19:19

because of Human Rights atrocities that

19:21

China has been perpetuating. The UN panel,

19:24

says the region resembles. a

19:26

mess is into.

19:27

Many can't be more than one

19:29

million move.

19:30

Then. Minorities have been rounded

19:32

up to change and forcibly

19:34

indoctrinated or the Chinese

19:36

regime on so China

19:39

has undergone numerous rounds of sanctions

19:41

from governments, including the US and

19:43

various European countries. And,

19:45

as train it it's closer to hosting the

19:48

Olympics Altavista politicians

19:50

and foreign countries has been questioning

19:52

whether China is set. to

19:55

host a global sporting event land ongoing

19:57

necessities are happening within it's borders And

20:00

for China this has been a huge headache

20:02

because the Olympics first and foremost

20:04

for them as, an opportunity to

20:06

showcase their political system their

20:09

economic development and to pull off this

20:11

massive event during the global pandemic. ten

20:13

has been incredibly anxious about

20:15

maintaining this image that the games are

20:17

well attended that they're supported internationally that

20:19

they're open to foreign spectators

20:21

and so although they have said that they don't

20:24

care if american leaders come

20:26

Me from you. guys are the

20:28

sure what the u s should do is

20:30

to correct to substitute the practice a

20:32

more united olympic spirit and

20:34

just take china's concerns seriously

20:37

In reality, they made a huge fuss about the

20:39

U.S. diplomatic I pods and basically

20:41

every day and state propaganda the foreign ministry

20:43

had been putting out statements criticizing countries

20:45

for politicizing the game.

20:47

Students politicized sport and stopped

20:49

calling for the so called diplomatic boycott

20:52

of the Beijing Winter Olympics so as

20:54

not to affect the dialogue and cooperation

20:56

between China and the U. S. in important

20:59

areas if. the u s insist

21:01

on willfully clinging onto its course china

21:04

will definitely take resolute the counter

21:06

measures

21:07

In making a huge fuss about

21:09

these diplomatic boycotts, has the Chinese

21:11

government have to address? The reason

21:14

for the boycott, their treatment of the weaker

21:16

minority.

21:17

They will mention it said the

21:19

discussion about weaker is

21:21

and about China's policies and seen John

21:23

has become so controls was enchanted

21:25

cells that most of the discussion

21:28

is. quite sister has tiny

21:30

dismisses foreign media reports about detentions

21:33

about family separations as simply made up

21:36

as anti china rumors and

21:38

most people in china tend to believe the tiny

21:40

state propaganda that but china is

21:43

doing in the region as for security for

21:45

the sake of economic development so

21:47

although the reasons don't come up that much the

21:49

reason is mostly these are countries that are

21:52

politicizing the games to constrain china

21:54

sometimes seems wrong and mentioned but it's not as

21:56

sensitive as he would imagine because the narrative

21:58

has been Really control. The with in China.

22:01

Are you with all these countries coming out and

22:03

saying you know we're sending our athletes,

22:05

but we are also diplomatically

22:08

boycotting these games, we have lots of problems

22:10

with this? The government's actions

22:13

is that setting up a lot of athletes

22:15

to maybe make political statements

22:17

or even take political action

22:20

at these games and how is China

22:22

gonna deal with that if so?

22:24

It's a huge risk for China. There are

22:26

athletes already coming out and

22:28

voicing support for uyghurs.

22:30

Are other groups that has been systematically? Targeted

22:33

in China, torture,

22:36

ready

22:37

for some worship and sterilization

22:40

right

22:45

now to

22:46

more than 1.8 million

22:48

region

22:51

in Northern Russia and China. and?

22:53

the

22:53

expectation is that there are going to

22:55

be teams or individual athletes who will

22:57

make some kind of political statement on the

22:59

podium wear during competition.

23:01

China has come out and that

23:03

they will be quote certain punishment for

23:05

athletes who do that. They have

23:07

not elaborated, what that punishment could be.

23:09

The international Olympic Committee

23:12

does have rules that say athletes

23:15

are allowed to make political statements, that

23:17

interfere with competition or

23:19

with other athletes ability to compete. But

23:21

I imagine, there could be some tense moments. as

23:24

athletes do decide to step up and say something

23:26

within China human, rights watch.

23:29

and advocacy non profit the other day came

23:32

out with an advisory cautioning athletes

23:34

not to make political statements while

23:36

they're in china because there is no legal

23:38

On't that their safety will be.

23:42

That's pretty astonishing to me because an organization

23:44

that human rights watch usually encourages

23:46

that kind of activism and using

23:48

one's platform to make a statement

23:51

but, it shows that people

23:53

are unsure whether or not they can safely

23:56

exercise freedom of speech even

23:58

inside international olympics If

24:00

they're happening in China, I mean the to.

24:02

The government is threatening to punish athletes,

24:04

but there's no way the Chinese government. jails

24:08

I don't know", an American or Australian

24:10

or a Canadian athlete for speaking out

24:13

about the weaker says there.

24:15

No but they could buy them from competing

24:17

they deport them from the country they,

24:20

can basically just interfere with the ask it's ability

24:22

to compete. and

24:24

will have to see whether that leads to any kind

24:26

of showdown inside the bubble

24:29

Sure any chance any of this, though, has

24:32

any real effect on how

24:34

the Chinese government treats wieters.

24:37

Probably not, sadly.

24:38

France's president pulls the boy got

24:41

insignificant. The pointless.

24:45

I. Don't think we should politicised this to make

24:47

very small and symbolic measures either,

24:49

we say, we're going to do a complete boy

24:51

called "are not going to send in the athletes"

24:54

"We're going to try to reengage and how workable

24:57

useful lessons and more in

24:59

favor of doing things that average useful", he said.

25:01

This has been the criticism of a diplomatic boycott

25:04

it doesn't do anything to change the A the calculus

25:06

to incentivize translators to change what they're doing

25:08

and season and.

25:11

China has it's all said. That happening

25:13

in Xinjiang and also other issues like

25:16

to that our internal.

25:18

This is it will not be swayed by other countries

25:20

into changing it's policies in these regions

25:23

and, this plants become plants point of pride

25:26

to basically doubled down on what is

25:28

what they've done and these places

25:29

So what does that mean though these countries

25:32

want to make a statement about China's

25:35

policies and ten is? The

25:37

human rights abuses none of them

25:39

wanna go as far as to actually.

25:42

Our athletes from participating in these games,

25:44

though, that is the thing that might have

25:46

ultimately drawn the most attention

25:49

to the plight of the weaker is that China's

25:51

through a winter Olympics and

25:54

nobody showed up.

25:55

Yeah that definitely would have gotten much more attention

25:58

that. being said either Oh. Boy

26:00

Pie: It would not have changed China policies

26:03

and single it, is something

26:05

they said time and again is their own business

26:07

they're not going to be pushed around by. Other countries

26:10

policies and seen John enjoy

26:12

a certain amount of popular support, listen

26:14

finalists and citizens who do believe these

26:16

policies are making the region a safer

26:19

place and are good. For the leaders

26:21

because it promotes economic development,

26:24

so China has no reason to undo

26:26

what it's perpetuated and sings,

26:29

on and most of the damage has already

26:31

been. done families have been separated people

26:33

have, been imprisoned people

26:35

have. been horribly traumatized fixing

26:38

those ills are going to take much more than

26:40

just a boycott of That and.

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