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The biggest movie in the country is Barbie.
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Hi Barbie! The second biggest movie
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is Oppenheimer.
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But have you heard about the third biggest movie
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in the country? It's not Tom
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Cruise and Mission Impossible 7
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Dead Reckoning Part 1. It's
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not Harrison Ford and Indiana
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Jones and the Dial of Destiny Part 5. It's
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an action drama about fighting
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child sex trafficking called
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Sound of Freedom. Did
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that make you feel? Giving
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a child his freedom. It
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felt good. On Today Explained,
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we're going to figure out how this grim movie
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you haven't seen a single billboard for
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is beating Tom Cruise and
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Indiana Jones at the box
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office.
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Today, Today
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Explained. It's Today Explained.
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I'm John Jergensen and I'm an entertainment reporter
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at the Wall Street Journal. We asked John over
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to tell us about the third biggest movie in
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the country.
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Yeah, this third movie is Sound of Freedom.
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Hear that? That's
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the sound of freedom. And
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you know, you could call it a dark horse in
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the box office race this year except
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this is a movie that people
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didn't even see as in the race going
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into this summer. It just wasn't on most
1:37
people's radars before it opened
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and before it did big numbers. It's
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a crime thriller, kind of an old-fashioned crime
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thriller about a government agent whose
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job is to deal with criminals who
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traffic in children. We're
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Homeland
1:51
Security, you know we can't go off rescuing
1:54
Honduran kids in Colombia. And
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you know, he feels hemmed in
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by bureaucracy and
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and the restrictions of government work. And
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it's based on the work of a real
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organization and a real person,
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Tim Ballard. And it's
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the hero, it's played by Jim Caviezel,
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who many know from the Passion of the Christ. Jesus.
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We know him as Jesus. And certain
2:16
other things in the culture. He's been kind
2:18
of a controversial figure in Hollywood
2:21
because of things that he does in his personal
2:23
life and things he says in his personal life. We are headed
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into the storm of all storms.
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Yes.
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The storm is upon us. What
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did you think of it? Is it good? You saw it twice.
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So does that mean you'd want to see it a third time? I
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saw it twice. I think I got it. It's
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a fine movie. I'm not a film critic. Personally,
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I'd say it's a little overwrought and maybe there's
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not as much action as you might expect
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from the way it's framed in movie
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trailers and things like that. But it's
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a perfectly capable adult drama
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that does its job and it's
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well made. Maybe more interesting
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than whether this movie is good
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or not is its
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backstory. And you wrote about this for the Wall
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Street Journal. Where did this movie come from?
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So the company behind this
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film is Angel Studios. And
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this is a Utah based content
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company run by a family
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who is part of the
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Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They
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don't call themselves a faith-based studio
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but all of their films are, I would say
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faith adjacent. Their mission, they
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say is to amplify light through
3:33
their storytelling. Also clean content
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that they want to give people as an alternative to Hollywood
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fare. Hollywood has no idea
3:40
what type of content actually matters to you.
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80% of Hollywood movies fail because they don't
3:45
have a soul. What they are known for are
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Bible stories, clean comedy.
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They're also known in the past for
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their fight against major Hollywood studios
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because their first business was
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to kind of provide this clean content
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to families.
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So they were taking Hollywood movies and essentially
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cleaning them up for people who didn't want cursing
4:05
and nude scenes and violence
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and things like that in their family movies. Meaning
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you can watch Wolf of Wall Street without language,
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Game of Thrones without nudity, or Transformers 4
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without all of it because it's a terrible movie. And
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as you can imagine, they quickly got sued by the major
4:19
studios. So that's essentially the
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origin story of Angel Studios. That's
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really kind of the basis of their company and then they took
4:26
this shift into actually producing
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and distributing original
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content of their own. Angel Studios
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has produced content that makes a lot of money,
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but more importantly, it's content that feeds
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the soul. After watching The Chosen, John
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said, I've never felt more connected to Jesus
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and his disciples than I did watching The
4:43
Chosen. That's what kind of leads
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us up to Sound of Freedom now.
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Okay, so how does this company that's interested in making
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sort of Hollywood content more
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family-friendly end up
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making a movie about
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sex trafficking or do they make it? Sound
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of Freedom essentially started as a Hollywood
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film, but then took a very unhollywood
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path into theaters.
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The film was first connected to
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Fox in Latin America, which
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had a deal to distribute the film. And
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then as filmmakers were working
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on it, that's when the merger with Disney happened.
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And as soon as Disney came
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together with Fox, lots of films
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got lost in the mix, got dropped along the
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way, and this was one of them. So
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that left the filmmakers with this
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project that they had finished filming, but
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no one to put it out in theaters, no one to distribute
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it. The filmmakers said they went to all
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the various studios, streamers, tried
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to sell it, no one was buying. And
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then through mutual acquaintances,
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including Tim Ballard, the subject of film,
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the filmmakers connected with Angel Studios
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and within days they had... agreed
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on a deal to put this
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movie into the Angel system. And
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so Angel moved very, very quickly this past
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spring to get
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the film to its base
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of users called the Angel Guild. These are people
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essentially vote on whether Angel
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should back a project. The Angel
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Guild said yes. Angel
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Studios moved very quickly then to raise
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the money that was required. So
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Angel Studios said we need $5 million
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to do this.
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That's kind of the minimum level they needed to
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get this film into theaters and to start promoting
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it. So they go out to their
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community that they've built over the years
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and they said here is a public
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offering for this film. We
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want to raise $5 million. And
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so users, their
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user base
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came to this project in Fox. Within
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about two weeks they had raised $5 million. And
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people were putting in anywhere from $100 of their
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own to $10,000 or $25,000. These are individual investors in
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the film through this SEC
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fundraising opportunity. And that's
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how Angel raised the money to put this film into
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theaters.
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Okay, so it drops in movie theaters appropriately
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for a movie called
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Sound of Freedom on the
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4th
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of July. It's up against Harrison
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Ford
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and Indiana Jones. How
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does it do? The film does great.
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Hear that? That's
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a sound. Sound
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of Freedom. I
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mean, forget Indiana Jones at this point. It's
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beating Mission Impossible, which came
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out later. You know,
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it's a fresher film, and it's got the biggest
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movie star in the world behind
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it. And Sound of Freedom, on
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a day-to-day basis, is beating it at
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the box office. Here we are about
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three weeks after its release.
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It has made about $127 million at
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the domestic box office. This is a
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movie that was made for about $14.5 million. That
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was its production budget, you know, a
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very, very modestly made film. And
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this $127 million box office,
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it's a figure so staggering that
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it's raising eyebrows. People
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don't believe it. People think there's
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some conspiracies at play here. Correct.
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I think a lot of people not just are
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surprised that this movie to them came
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out of nowhere. And of course that raises
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skepticism. There's a couple of different things
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happening here.
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One is that in
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the case of faith-based films especially,
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or faith-adjacent films, as I guess you would call
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this, there is often
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a dynamic where churches,
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other institutions that support these
9:19
films will buy out a theater,
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will rent a whole theater, to
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allow their organization members
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to go see this film for free because
9:29
they support the message. So this
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is not unusual for faith-based
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films to be sold out in theaters
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and then have the theaters themselves be somewhat
9:39
empty. That may have been the
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case, I think, in the beginning
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for this film. That may have happened. And
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certainly on social media, you can find reports
9:49
of people documenting sold
9:51
out theaters that were somewhat empty
9:54
for this film.
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Went to go watch Sound of Freedom and
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the employees said we bought the last two seats
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for this show. Look how empty
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it is. But I
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am highly skeptical that
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this is some kind of conspiracy
10:08
of, you know, papering these movie
10:10
theaters just to kind of boost the box office
10:13
revenue.
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There may have been kind of a
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lag in the cultural phenomenon
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around this film. Perhaps, you
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know, the buyouts and the
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movie theater rentals did happen in some places.
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But I think what has occurred since then
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is what you often see, you know, a hit begets
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hit and word of mouth begets
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more word of mouth. And then once
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the hit status of the film kind of hits
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the culture and the news media, people
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get curious and they do go out to see this film. So
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there's no denying that this has
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created this groundswell and also
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landed at a time where I think conservative
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moviegoers
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and conservative media were looking for
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something to champion and were looking for something
11:03
to rally around. And this film
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kind of created a, you know, a unifying
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cause. Who doesn't want
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to go out and see a popcorn film for a good
11:11
cause?
11:23
John Jurgensen, Wall
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Street Journal. It turns out there are all sorts
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of people who don't want to go see a popcorn film
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for a good cause. We're going to hear from
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one of them in a minute on Today Explained.
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Just a quick heads up, this part of the show
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is going to feature some talk about sex trafficking.
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paying tickets forward to people who might
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not usually go to the movies, but undoubtedly
12:05
a big part of that success has to do with people wanting
12:08
to see a movie that's got a message. And
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the message here is that child sex trafficking
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is heinous
12:14
and needs to be stopped. No arguments.
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But not everyone is jazzed to
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see Sound of Freedom as a vessel
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for that message because of the real life man
12:24
and organization this movie's about. The
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man is Tim Ballard. The
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organization is Operation
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Underground Railroad. OUR.
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Writer Meg Conley knows
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them both. So unfortunately I
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have some personal experience with the
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organization behind
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the movie Operation Underground Railroad.
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In 2014 I went
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on what they called a jump,
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which was basically a human trafficking
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raid that was supposed to be
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one step in saving the world from what
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they called the enslavement of children, like through human trafficking.
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I was 28 years old. My
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dad, who was my best friend, he had
13:11
just died. I had two young
13:13
children. I was a stay at home
13:15
mom, kind of grappling with the
13:18
isolation of care
13:20
work in America. And I was
13:22
just lost. There was a lot of grief,
13:25
there was a lot of confusion, and I wanted
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a purpose. I think that one
13:31
way to get through grief
13:33
and isolation is to
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feel like you're doing good work in the world.
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And
13:40
the grief and isolation was making even
13:43
that difficult for me to find.
13:53
So I get a call one afternoon
13:55
from this man named Tim Ballard, who
13:57
had founded Operation Railroad.
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I had never spoken to him before, but he
14:03
did attend church with my parents,
14:06
which is, I think, how he knew about
14:08
me. At the time I was writing, I
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guess what they were calling like a mommy
14:12
blog, and Operation
14:14
Underground Railroad was a relatively
14:17
new organization, and I think
14:19
he wanted some publicity for it. And
14:22
so when he called me, he asked if I was interested
14:24
on going
14:25
on a human trafficking raid with the
14:27
organization in the Dominican Republic,
14:30
because he said he really liked my work,
14:33
and he thought that I
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articulated things with
14:38
insight, that I was a good observer, and he
14:41
wanted me to document
14:44
the work that they were doing to save children.
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Ballard's whole pitch at the time,
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which I was
14:50
too naive
14:53
to question, was that he was
14:55
the ultimate authority on this. He talked
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a lot about how he had worked for Homeland
15:00
Security, and that he had been trying
15:03
to get rid of human trafficking this way through like
15:05
official government channels, but they
15:07
weren't willing to do the work like
15:09
he was. So I believed him,
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and who doesn't want to save the children? It felt
15:15
scary to go with him, but I said yes
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because I felt like
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it would be selfish to say no. We were
15:22
both members of the Church
15:24
of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints at the time. I
15:26
no longer attend, but there
15:29
was also a power dynamic there that's hard to
15:33
explain to
15:34
people outside of that religion. The Mormon
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Church, which is like how most people know it, has
15:39
a male-only priesthood, which
15:41
means like the authority of God only works through
15:44
men, and women function
15:47
as supports. There
15:50
was also a sense that this was like
15:53
a divine call to action, along
15:56
with like maybe a moral one.
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When we get to the Dominican Republic,
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there's like a long ride to the
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house where the raid is going to take place. And
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when I get to the house, there's like a camera crew there,
16:13
which surprised me. And I'm
16:15
told that they film all their jumps
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because they want to make a TV
16:21
series about all
16:23
of their anti-trafficking work
16:25
to raise awareness and get
16:28
more people involved, both within their
16:30
organization and outside their organization
16:33
with anti-trafficking
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efforts.
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They have these meetings in the house, like in a back
16:40
room where the staff can't see what's going
16:44
on. And there's like a whiteboard and Tim Ballard is
16:46
standing by the whiteboard and there's like
16:48
a drawing of the house, like a layout of the house.
16:51
It is like a movie. And
16:54
Tim Ballard is, you know, he's like putting a dozen-ish
16:57
people there who are part of the jump and
17:00
they're all these like men, like
17:02
with like very tight t-shirt.
17:05
Like they do a lot of CrossFit. Like these are guys
17:07
who do a lot of CrossFit. It's 2014. CrossFit
17:11
is their
17:12
journey.
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So the next day, the kids are going to be
17:17
there, you know, in an hour or two. And
17:20
my job is to blow
17:22
up balloons. So it looks like we're having
17:24
a party because they
17:27
want the traffickers when they come in with
17:29
the kids to be very sure
17:31
that like this is a
17:34
sex trafficking party where
17:36
like these men and this one woman, I
17:38
guess, are here to assault
17:41
these kids. The traffickers pull
17:43
up. So they've rented a bus. The OUR has rented
17:46
a bus and picked
17:48
up the traffickers where, and it's several
17:50
people trafficking these kids with kind of
17:53
one lead guy. And
17:55
there are 26 kids who end up showing
17:57
like being brought to the bus.
17:59
We get word that they're pulling up, and
18:02
so I am sent outside to the
18:04
pool where there's like a stack of soda cans
18:06
and kids start
18:08
filing out to the pool area. They're
18:11
mostly middle school to high school
18:13
age. Some kids jump into the pool. I
18:16
hand other kids soda and I
18:18
feel, I'm
18:22
nauseated because I don't understand,
18:25
now that I'm confronted with these children, I
18:28
realize I don't understand what
18:30
led them to that bus. I get what
18:32
Tim has told me. Tim has told
18:35
me that they come a couple
18:37
days ahead of time and kind of like
18:39
spread the word that they're looking
18:42
for trafficked kids. He
18:44
says that once this
18:46
happens, they're approached by, you know,
18:49
in every location where they do this, they're
18:51
approached by a trafficker who says,
18:54
you know, like, I can get you kids if you want a party.
18:57
And then it goes from there, but
18:58
I don't understand, I realize at that point,
19:00
like, I don't understand
19:03
where these kids were before
19:05
the trafficker meets them at the
19:07
bus.
19:18
It's kind of the first time where I'm like, oh, I don't
19:21
know enough to be here. So,
19:26
Ballard is inside with the traffickers and he's
19:28
supposed to be like negotiating
19:30
the price of like each,
19:35
there's no good word here, service,
19:37
I guess, that will be like quote unquote,
19:39
like provided by each child, but really he's
19:42
negotiating the price of like each violation of
19:44
each child, right? Like
19:46
that would be the correct terminology,
19:48
like each victimization of
19:50
each child. And I think that
19:53
that is going
19:55
to wrap up.
20:01
You know, I won't see any of it, but then
20:06
one of the OUR members opens the
20:08
back door and calls out to me and
20:10
says, Meg, Tim wants you inside.
20:13
I don't want to go inside, but I also
20:16
don't know how to say no. So
20:19
I say yes, and I walk inside.
20:23
And Valor
20:25
is sitting inside, and there's money
20:27
on a table in front of him, and
20:30
he's sitting and
20:33
he's talking with them and laughing
20:35
and
20:37
I'm watching him count money onto
20:39
this coffee table and I'm kind of standing towards the
20:41
back of the room. I'm like, okay, he just
20:43
wants me in here to observe. And
20:45
so if I can just get far enough
20:48
away from everything that's happening, this
20:50
is still okay. But
20:52
the raid starts, and it's
20:55
terrifying.
21:00
There's a lot of shouting and
21:02
a lot of screaming
21:05
and Tim's yelling, who
21:08
sold me out? Or who ratted like
21:10
a movie? And I
21:13
move quickly to get to the back door because I
21:15
want to be out by the pool. That's where I was supposed to
21:17
be. I don't want to be here. And
21:20
when I open the back door, there's
21:22
a law enforcement person
21:24
standing there with a very, very, very large
21:27
gun.
21:28
And he yells at me to
21:30
get back inside and get down. And
21:33
so I'm forced onto the ground, onto those
21:35
beige tiles,
21:38
and face down,
21:41
and I'm handcuffed.
21:47
And the whole time, at this point, once the raid
21:49
has started, they're not just relying
21:52
on the hidden
21:54
cameras anymore. The camera crew
21:56
has come out and they're moving
21:58
around the room filming.
21:59
the whole thing and I'm
22:02
face down on the ground in this room I was
22:04
never supposed to be in and there's like, I
22:07
can out of the corner of my eye like see
22:09
a camera like sweeping over me. And
22:12
that footage is on YouTube.
22:14
I watched it yesterday. I saw your face.
22:17
Yeah, it's insane.
22:19
You know, I get home and
22:22
it takes me a long time to understand like
22:26
what happened and like they're just little
22:29
realizations that eventually become like a
22:32
become a whole answer. In 2015,
22:36
I decided to learn more about human
22:38
trafficking, which was still kind of difficult to
22:40
do in 2014 after the raid. I
22:43
talked to one human trafficking expert
22:45
who's not involved with OUR and when I explain
22:47
everything that happened, they
22:50
say like, do you realize
22:52
you do realize how wrong all of that was, right?
22:55
Like none of that was right.
22:57
Tell me what you learned about this style
22:59
of, of sort of vigilante
23:03
sex trafficking policing. I
23:05
mean, how many of those girls
23:08
that were at that house that day in 2014
23:10
had a history of
23:13
being involved in this kind of work? Yeah.
23:17
So after this thing, I asked like, where are the 26? So
23:19
there were 26 kids and at the time they're telling
23:21
me it's 26 kids. It ends up being
23:25
not everyone's not every
23:28
person there was underage. And
23:31
I'm told that at the
23:33
time that they've all been, they've
23:36
all been, you know, trafficked over and over again.
23:38
I find out later that that's not true. I
23:40
mean, these kinds of anti trafficking
23:42
raids, they create demand where there isn't
23:45
always demand. At least two
23:47
of the kids on that raid had
23:50
never been trafficked before. That was the first time,
23:53
which means that like we created
23:55
trauma for them. They may never have experienced.
23:59
And then, and then
23:59
After the raid, I
24:02
think it was in 2015, foreign policy
24:04
comes out with a story about OUR
24:07
and it includes reporting
24:11
on this raid. And I find out that after
24:13
this operation,
24:18
a local organization
24:20
called the National Council for Children and
24:23
Adolescents, they're supposed to do
24:25
the aftercare and they realize like, you brought
24:27
us 20-ish kids. We
24:30
do not have the capacity to provide
24:33
services for this many people. We cannot
24:35
provide basically
24:37
safety. And so the kids were
24:40
released within a week or two and
24:44
lost. Nobody
24:46
knows what happened to
24:48
many of them, which means they
24:51
got a soda and a swim from us.
24:54
So potentially
24:57
they may have been back on the streets
25:00
being sex trafficked again in as
25:02
much as two weeks.
25:03
Yes, maybe by another
25:05
group doing like another military raid,
25:09
like anti-trafficking military raid, like
25:11
creating demand. That
25:14
was nearly 10 years ago, right? To
25:18
your knowledge, you know,
25:20
how is this organization Underground
25:24
Railroad, OUR evolved
25:27
since then? I think they've gotten better
25:29
at appearances slightly.
25:32
So Tim Ballard, he, as I watched
25:34
over the years,
25:40
I was able to understand, you
25:43
know, by 2016, 2017, after
25:45
a lot of
25:47
research and a lot of therapy, like everything
25:51
that was wrong with that raid, but
25:53
also with the model as a whole,
25:55
it doesn't work. We
25:58
know that like,
26:00
anti-trafficking raids don't
26:02
work. We know that the people,
26:04
like the traffickers who are arrested
26:07
a lot of the time, they're
26:09
usually small fish. And
26:12
another small fish comes in and like takes
26:15
their place. This doesn't like address
26:17
like some of the like actual, like
26:22
the people in charge of like some of the cartels that are
26:24
actually, actually like really running
26:27
like human trafficking rings. Like that
26:29
is real, but like this does not
26:32
do anything to stop that. It just means
26:34
like someone else is going to traffic
26:37
kids next time.
26:39
But it also
26:42
doesn't prevent, it doesn't prevent human
26:44
trafficking. Like we know what prevents
26:46
human trafficking. Social
26:49
safety nets prevent human trafficking. What
26:51
Tim Ballard does does not prevent
26:54
human trafficking. What it does do is create
26:57
a cult of personality and
27:01
it turns the world into
27:03
Star Wars.
27:09
They're a myth-making
27:12
engine. Like they
27:14
exist to generate
27:17
a world in which bad
27:21
things only happen. And
27:23
quote unquote, like the special world, which
27:26
happens to be according to who you are,
27:29
not America.
27:31
America is like the
27:33
ordinary world where everything is
27:36
okay. But the special world,
27:38
the place where you experience like trials,
27:41
but also your transformation, that
27:45
is anywhere
27:46
where white men are not
27:50
like
27:52
the main demographic. Anyone
27:57
who follows Ballard or is part of
27:59
the world
27:59
the organization, they're on
28:02
the light side and anybody who
28:05
doesn't is on the dark side.
28:25
Meg Conley writes a newsletter called Home
28:27
Culture. You can also find her writing
28:30
at Harper's Bazaar and Slate, where
28:32
in 2021 she wrote about
28:35
her experience with Operation Underground Railroad.
28:37
The essay is titled Called by God and
28:40
in it you'll find a comment from OUR
28:42
about Meg's experience. They said,
28:45
As any other successful organization does,
28:47
we have evolved and are continually
28:49
working to professionally improve
28:52
our standard operating methods and practices.
28:55
Part of that evolution perhaps? Vice
28:57
News reported last week that Tim Ballard,
28:59
the guy whose story Sound of Freedom
29:01
is based on, stepped away
29:04
from Operation Underground Freedom.
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