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I wear headphones all the time. I
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use them for work, at the gym, playing
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video games, watching movies, and
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of course, recording this very podcast. But
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despite how much I use headphones, I
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actually don't know that much about them. Sure,
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I have a few pairs that I really like because they
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sound good, and they work well for the things that
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I use them for. But what actually makes
1:01
a pair of headphones good? When I get
1:03
a new pair, what should I be listening for?
1:06
Which features really matter, and which ones
1:08
are just marketing gimmicks? I decided
1:10
that it was time to educate myself and bring
1:12
you along with me. You can think of this episode
1:15
like a headphone handbook that you can refer back
1:17
to anytime.
1:20
Now, when I'm in the market for a new pair of headphones,
1:22
there's one place that I always look, and
1:25
that's the Wirecutter section of the New York
1:27
Times. And in those articles, there's
1:29
a particular writer whose name I see
1:31
all the time.
1:33
I'm Lauren Dragon. I
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am Wirecutter's, I guess you call
1:38
me, headphone expert, senior staff writer technically,
1:40
and I work with audio. But primarily, I do
1:43
headphones and hearing aids. If you stick it
1:45
on your head and listen to it, that's what I do.
1:46
I love the hesitation on expert
1:49
because it's like there is no doubt that
1:51
you are the foremost
1:53
expert or very up there
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because I don't know who else is. Well, I
1:57
mean, the New York Times technically claims that I've tested
1:59
more headphones than I do. than anyone else in the world. At
2:01
Wirecutter, Lauren has personally tested
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almost 2,000 pairs of headphones. And
2:06
in fact, at one point, somebody in the promo
2:08
department was like, we should just do it. They were gonna get me like
2:11
into the Guinness record. Ha ha ha ha.
2:16
For every pair of headphones that Lauren reviews,
2:19
there's one question she's trying to answer. If
2:21
I bought this, for the amount of money that it costs,
2:24
would I be happy? Once I hit a
2:26
no, I'm done testing. When
2:30
a new pair of headphones shows up in the mail, the
2:32
first thing Lauren does is charge them up and
2:34
install any apps or firmware updates.
2:37
The second thing that I do is then I
2:39
do my own listening sessions. So
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I have this set playlist of stuff that I listen
2:43
to to test and everything in there is very specifically
2:46
chosen for different sonic
2:48
elements, but also they're songs that I don't
2:50
hate. So I can listen to them over and over again and
2:52
not get sick of it, but also that I don't
2:54
absolutely love because
2:56
I didn't want them ruined for me.
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Lauren keeps her real testing playlist a secret,
3:03
but why? It's a secret, it's
3:05
my secret and I won't tell you, I'm sorry.
3:07
But she did give examples of the kinds of
3:09
songs that work well for this. First and
3:12
foremost, it should be music that you know
3:14
really well. You want to use music
3:16
that you are intimately familiar
3:18
with. You wanna have heard it so many
3:20
times that you know every breath
3:23
sound. Breathing,
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breathe out. Every fret
3:28
noise. The
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amount of reverb on the bass.
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Because
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otherwise you don't really know what you're
3:37
listening for.
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So let's dive into our hypothetical headphone
3:44
testing playlist. If you're wearing headphones
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right now, listen closely and see how they
3:48
respond to this music.
3:52
To start off, Lauren recommends a simple,
3:54
intimate acoustic track. I
3:58
usually choose acoustic guitar.
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and voice because this is an instrument
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you'll probably have heard in person before. I know I have.
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So it's a great place to start to notice if there's any
4:06
inauthenticity to the sound. So are
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the fret noises too loud, which usually
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means there's like a peak in the high?
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Does the body of the instrument kind
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of overwhelm or sound reverb-y,
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which oftentimes means you've got too much low
4:21
frequency cue? Next,
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she looks for something that's really sonically
4:29
dense but still has some delicate sounds
4:32
in it. Maybe a track like Teardrop by
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Massive Attack, which you might recognize as
4:36
the theme song from House. I
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like that there are the cracks and pops
4:42
of the recording static with sustained bass
4:45
notes. And
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that gives me an idea of how nimble
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the headphones are. Can they handle intense sounds
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and delicate sounds simultaneously?
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You'd be surprised how many pairs of headphones fall
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apart by this stage. Then
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I throw some serious bass notes at it. So
5:03
think Kanye. Yee. Yee is this.
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I don't
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know how to call them. The
5:08
artist
5:08
normally knows Kanye.
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Is the bass note a pitch
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or is it just a
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boom? Are
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the notes defined? Are they kind of mushy
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sounding?
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Then the speakers inside the headphones, which
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are called drivers, even handle that much
5:27
bass. Sometimes you'll get stuff that
5:29
it just distorts. So you hear the flattering
5:31
sound or
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a clicky sound.
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Then I go into something on the complete other
5:40
end of the spectrum. So something with high end
5:42
punch. Think lots of hot, hot
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tambourines.
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Bulletproof
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by LaRue has this kind of like steam
5:51
puff, scintzy sound that can kind of sound
5:54
biting or fatiguing if you have too much high
5:56
end energy.
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And if you've ever noticed that,
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maybe it's just me. So
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by this point, I'm usually pretty sure I got a good
6:13
feeling for the headphones. And if they've made it this far
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and I'm still exploring, that's a very good
6:17
sign for them. Because now is when I start to get
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into nuances. So things that you
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get some depths that are also realistic sounding
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and in a smaller space. So
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I like pianos that are miked inside
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the body. So
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the piano and vocal version of I Ain't
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Got You by Alicia Keys.
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The Luckiest by Ben Folds also works.
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You can hear the body of the piano in these songs,
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which can have depths or can fall flat
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or a cell dull or sound compressed.
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During her listening test, Lauren might notice
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some kind of quirk with how the headphones sound.
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Maybe there's a certain frequency that seems to stick out
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or something seems off with the stereo
7:12
field. And then I do some detective
7:14
work to narrow down and explain
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what I'm hearing.
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I may listen to a slow
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frequency sweep from 20 hertz to 20,000
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hertz and listen to what stands
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out.
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She's also a big fan of an album called Dr.
7:30
Chesky's Ultimate Headphone Demonstration Disc.
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It has a variety of recordings that are there
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to illustrate your headphones strengths and weaknesses.
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It's great.
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It has shakers. It moves around
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a microphone.
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And directly in front of the microphone.
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The disc also includes a set of
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live binaural recordings. Binaural
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is when you record something with two microphones
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attached to the head of a mannequin. the
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mics right where the mannequin's ears are facing
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outwards. The idea is to capture what
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it sounds like to be in that space as
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accurately as possible. Here's a clip
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from a live Rolling Stones album that was recorded
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in Binaural.
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Recordings like that can give you a sense of how
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well a pair of headphones can recreate a
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physical space. Another thing that works well
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for this is a sonically dense movie scene.
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Like the Battle of Pelennar Fields in Lord
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of the Rings. That's the scene from the third
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movie where the writers of Rohan charge into
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the army of orcs. It
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has great left and right balance, has
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some like close things that happen and things
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that are far away that are happening. Bluetooth
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headphones can often have latency problems.
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That's when the audio lags behind the video.
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So to test this, she'll watch dialogue
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scenes and look for any delay. He
9:13
didn't fall! Inconceivable!
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You give you center horn. I don't
9:19
think it means what you think it means. Recently
9:22
enough,
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really well done ASMR videos
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work great for this because they're very
9:26
close to the camera. The microphone
9:28
is very closely miked. So I
9:31
can actually see their tongue and see
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the T's and the P's and the B's and
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their lips go together and see how
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well it lines up.
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Here's an example. And I know some of you out
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there absolutely hate ASMR sounds.
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So I'll keep it short. The
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frequency response on my headphones is so
9:47
wide that when I listen to music, I can practically
9:49
hear the recording engineer's heartbeat.
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If the headphones make it through Lauren's listening
9:56
test, the next thing she'll do is start pushing
9:59
them to their absolute... limits. So
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for example, I will test the microphones
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and how good do they sound and how do they sound in a
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noisy
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environment versus a quiet environment? How does wind
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affect it?
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If they are water resistant, I will test
10:10
the water resistance. If they're made for working out,
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I will take them out and do a workout in them and make
10:15
sure that they don't fall out, that they don't rub
10:17
uncomfortably or do other weird things.
10:19
To test the sweat resistance, she has a saline
10:21
spray that's the same chemical composition
10:23
as human sweat. And I spray it on
10:26
those and I do that for a couple of hours
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essentially where I'll spray and press the buttons a bunch
10:30
of times and then leave it and make sure that it doesn't die.
10:33
For noise canceling headphones, she'll put on loud airplane
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noise or cafe noise to see how much
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sound they cancel out.
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If it's kid headphones, I like tug on stuff. I
10:41
step on them in my Doc Martin to make
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sure that they don't just immediately crack if somebody steps
10:45
on them. Because that's what kids do. She
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tries them plugged in, over Bluetooth,
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on a full battery, and on a low
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battery. She tries every preset
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and pushes every button.
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Much to the sugar end of the manufacturers, I
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look at every option and I ask them a lot of questions.
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I'm like, why does this do this? And I couldn't get this to work.
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And they're like, what sub menu are you in?
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And if the headphones pass every test
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that Lauren can throw at them, then I just, I
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use them for like a week to make sure
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that nothing
11:13
weird comes up. So it's
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a very long and extensive process.
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But that's why it's a full time job.
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With so many factors to consider, it's
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easy to get paralyzed by all of the options
11:28
out there. Like what's the difference between
11:30
over ear, on ear, and in ear headphones?
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And how does that affect the sound quality? Do you
11:35
actually need noise canceling? And
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what the heck does impedance mean? Fortunately,
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Lauren is here to cut through all of the gobbledygook
11:42
and help you pick the right pair of headphones.
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If
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someone got to this point and they were having decision
15:11
paralysis over all of these parameters
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to think about with something like headphones, how would you
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even guide them to start? So
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the
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first thing I say is, do
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you know the form factor that's most comfortable
15:23
for you? Do you want over your headphones, on
15:25
your headphones, in your headphones? Over
15:28
ear are the big classic headphones that
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you might imagine when you think of an audio technician
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or a sound designer. They have big foam pads
15:35
that completely surround your ear, and the ear
15:37
cups are connected by a thick headband. Generally
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speaking, they tend to have bigger drivers, which means
15:43
you can often have a little bit
15:45
of better sound quality for less money. They
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also tend to be more comfortable to wear for long
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periods of time. So if you sit at a desk
15:52
for 8 hours a day with headphones on, then
15:54
over ear is probably a good option. Then
15:57
you got your on ear, which essentially is just
15:59
imagine that sort of padding shrunk
16:01
down a little smaller and it sits on top
16:03
of the outer part of your ear. People who have glasses
16:06
like them because they can allow them to
16:08
put their glasses bands in a little
16:10
bit easier and not have an issue with the seal.
16:13
Finally, there are in-ear headphones,
16:15
also known as earbuds. The main
16:18
benefit of earbuds is portability. I
16:20
have my earbuds that I wear 90% of
16:22
the time, quite frankly, because I'm a mom and
16:24
I have places to be and so I'm packing
16:26
lunch and cleaning up and doing other things
16:29
while I'm listening to something. But earbuds
16:31
can get uncomfortable if you wear them for hours
16:33
on end. A lot of people don't like to feel if something
16:35
inside their ear and they find it kind of fatiguing after
16:38
a certain amount of time. And since the drivers
16:40
inside the earbuds are so small, it
16:42
usually means that you sacrifice some sound
16:45
quality. Would it be fair to say that
16:47
in that order is going to be sound quality? So
16:50
peak would be over and then down into
16:52
the concessions that have to be made for in-ear?
16:55
If you are saying at the
16:57
same price point, yes. In terms
16:59
of capabilities, no. I think you
17:01
can have things that sound excellent in
17:03
all of those categories.
17:07
Of course, there are variations on all
17:09
of these, like open back and closed
17:12
back. Basically, open back
17:14
headphones allow air to pass through them,
17:16
which gives them a more natural sound. They
17:18
can be great for listening to high-quality music
17:20
in a controlled environment. But that open
17:23
design also means that they don't block as
17:25
much noise from the outside. On top of that,
17:27
they also leak out a lot of sound. So
17:30
if you don't want your whole office to know how much you
17:32
love meatloaf, you'll want to go with closed
17:34
back headphones. For
17:46
Lauren, the biggest thing to think about when choosing
17:48
a pair of headphones is your specific lifestyle.
17:51
In other words, what you're doing when you're
17:54
wearing headphones. Are you going to be wearing them to
17:56
the gym after you're finished with your day
17:58
of work? You know, if you're a an avid biker
18:00
and it's going to rain, then you probably want water resistance
18:03
or sweat resistance. Another thing to consider
18:05
is how many calls you're going to be taking on these headphones.
18:08
Because if you want to sound professional on a Zoom meeting,
18:11
you probably don't want your voice to sound like
18:13
this. So if voice quality is
18:15
important to you, And you might want to invest in something
18:17
that has multiple microphones and some
18:19
sort of software-based noise
18:21
reduction or a boom mic.
18:23
That's the little microphone that sticks
18:25
out in front of your mouth. These are really common
18:27
in gaming headphones. Alright, John's off. Ready,
18:29
guys? We're through this.
18:30
V-R-A-N-E-R-I-G-A-N.
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Oh my God, he just ran in. Now
18:37
if you're a frequent flyer or just sensitive
18:39
to noisy environments, then you might want
18:42
noise cancellation. In general, noise
18:44
cancelling does an excellent job of covering
18:46
up persistent sounds like a plane engine
18:49
or an air conditioner. But
18:52
with random sounds like barking dogs or
18:55
crying babies, it
18:57
doesn't reduce those sounds quite as much. At
18:59
this point where the technology is, it's very
19:02
hard to be able to respond
19:04
quick enough to quick, high-pitched
19:06
sounds. Noise cancelling can also
19:08
subtly change the characteristics of the audio.
19:11
So if you're a musician or a sound professional,
19:14
it's probably not the right choice for you. And
19:16
to be absolutely clear, when you're riding a
19:18
bike or walking around a city or crossing
19:20
at a crosswalk, really just anytime
19:22
you need situational awareness, noise
19:25
cancelling can be a safety hazard. So
19:27
be safe and please keep that in mind. But
19:32
there is another thing to think about with noise cancellation.
19:35
For some people, it can feel a bit uncomfortable.
19:39
Lauren and her colleagues have a term for this. We
19:41
call it eardrum suck, which
19:43
is the phenomenon that happens when
19:45
you put
19:46
on noise cancelling headphones and it feels
19:48
like you need to pop your ears. And
19:50
for some people, the effect is even more
19:53
pronounced. In fact, about me, I
19:55
start to get a headache and then after a while I start to get nauseous
19:58
if I wear noise cancelling headphones.
19:59
for too long. In Lauren's
20:02
experience about 40% of people seem
20:04
to be sensitive to this. Personally I love
20:07
my noise canceling headphones and I take them on every
20:09
single trip but I do notice
20:11
this icky feeling if I wear them for too
20:13
long without a break.
20:17
But while these things can all make a difference in your
20:19
listening experience some other things you'll
20:21
see advertised just aren't as important.
20:24
This is one that I've always loved because I
20:26
don't think I have a handle on this at all.
20:29
What is impedance? Okay
20:33
so generally speaking impedance
20:36
is how the driver of
20:38
the headphones, the little speaker in there, react
20:42
to
20:42
the energy
20:45
coming through
20:45
the cable. So you
20:48
talk about low impedance high impedance very
20:51
few headphones that anyone buys now are high impedance.
20:53
It used to be a lot more common in
20:55
studio headphones because if you
20:58
were in a studio and you have a very very powerful
21:00
mixer and you leave the volume
21:02
up and you plug your headphones in and too
21:04
much sound comes through and there's very low impedance
21:07
you're gonna blow your headphones. So
21:09
they would have higher impedance
21:11
which is to say like think of it as like a resistance
21:14
so that essentially it would prevent
21:16
that from happening but it also meant that you needed
21:18
to have a more powerful amp to be able
21:20
to drive them.
21:23
Basically you only want high impedance
21:26
if you're connecting headphones to a really high
21:28
powered sound source like an old-school stereo
21:30
system with an amplifier but nowadays
21:33
that's not that common. You know you're not plugging
21:35
into your hi-fi as much as people used to in ye
21:37
olden times. You know it's your phone driving
21:39
it which doesn't have as much power behind it because it's
21:41
a tiny little phone. When
21:45
it comes to headphone cables another term you'll
21:47
hear about is shielding. In today's
21:50
world we're almost always surrounded by
21:52
electromagnetic signals and
21:55
radio waves and sometimes
21:58
audio equipment can pick up these signals
23:52
mouth,
24:00
pass the pickle park over.
24:01
And
24:03
I couldn't talk back, which is unfortunate. And
24:06
I just searched, maybe I did change out the cables
24:09
because everything is shielded and I was just like where
24:11
is this coming from? I'd just be sitting here working
24:13
and then a trucker out of my left speaker. 10-4, Rusty,
24:16
don't want no bear bites, so we'll back it down. And
24:18
I'm just like, that is so bizarre.
24:25
Since Lauren started in this industry, she's
24:27
seen headphones evolve quite a bit. So
24:30
I asked her to imagine it was 2030
24:32
and she had infinite money to design the perfect
24:34
headphones for her. What would that be
24:36
like? It
24:39
would be 3D printed earbuds. It
24:41
would involve a custom scan of my
24:43
ear, so like a laser scan or a mold,
24:46
so it'd be bespoke to my ear. And it would
24:48
have multiple drivers with a couple crossovers.
24:50
A crossover splits the audio into two
24:53
so that each one can go to a dedicated driver.
24:55
So you might have one speaker for treble and the
24:57
other one for bass. It would have
25:00
a pretty large processor on it so
25:02
that I can run programs on it. Things
25:04
like navigation, noise cancellation, translation,
25:08
like instead of Google Translate, looking on your
25:10
phone and reading it, you could have it in your ears
25:12
live as you're talking to someone. It's
25:15
a yearly restaurant through there. Hello,
25:17
mouth-gatherers. Their milk carts are so amazing.
25:20
And it will be super water
25:22
and sweat resistant, so I could swim with it if I
25:24
need to. I can shower with it. It won't be affected
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by it. Depending on the age I am down the line,
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maybe I'll need some sort of hearing enhancement and
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it will transmit lossless so I can
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listen to higher resolution music.
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These developments are already in the works.
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Eventually, we might be wearing high-tech hearables
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that do all of that and more. But
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until then, you'll just have to think about which
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features make the most sense for your
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individual lifestyle. At the end
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of the day, the headphones that you can
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wear
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comfortably and that
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work with what you do in your life are the best ones
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for you.
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So maybe if you already have a... good
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set of headphones and you're not thinking
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about them and you're fully immersed in
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the emotion of whatever you're listening to
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maybe already have the headphones that you need if
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i tell people that all the time make people
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com os and hundred and you need your your own these
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other his sons are amazing and i love them in
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the this is why i love that minimalist lead author
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like i'm not mad at you for that legs
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i don't know what it's a problem here you are happy
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like less my
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nowadays in the tell you that you're happy years
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design studios of the factors this
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episode was written and produced by casey
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everly with some free grace east
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it was sound design and next by brandon
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press and just and house
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