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You're listening to twenty thousand
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Hertz.
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Reality
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entertainment is everywhere. These days. Thanks
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to have Instagram Tik, Tok, YouTube
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and Twitter. We can follow people's lives
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more closely than ever before. And
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over on the television side shows, like The
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Bachelorette, The Mask singer, and
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the Real Housewives are still some of the highest
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programs out there. Are
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you not entertained? yeah,
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These shows are based on real people
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reacting to real situations
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or at least the that pretend
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to be real. The only thing that keeps. My
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mind saying, is affecting my
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pastor is on the way. I'm trying
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to keep my Cheese's one. Step away from
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getting your face punch. Then we're
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so used to it by now, it feels totally
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normal. But this kind of entertainment
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only took off in the last couple of decades, the
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first really big reality. Show was Survivor
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which started in the year two thousand over
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a hundred and twenty million people tuned
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in to watch the season finale The.
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winner of the first survivor competition
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Oh. He
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idolizes that.
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That same year a computer game came
1:23
along that perfectly tapped into this hunger
1:25
for reality it was called the
1:27
Sims presentable,
1:31
ran off. characters
1:35
and designs
1:44
The Sims was unlike any game that came
1:46
before it wasn't a platform or like
1:48
Mario Brothers or racing game
1:50
or puzzle game or first person shooters
1:54
instead. it was called was light simulation
1:57
game in it you make customised
1:59
character
2:00
Can decorate their house. Watch TV,
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do the dishes to
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learn an instrument and find a They
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can also get excited. Oppressor.
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I a can laugh arguments
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and even fall in
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love by
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a studio called Max's software.
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The company's founder Will Wright
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had always been fascinated by architecture.
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His first fix access was one
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of favorite games. of all time: "Sim City
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in It", you build your own city from scratch.
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That's
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what it sounds like when you build a power line. Then.
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Early nineties Will's house burned down,
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fortunately, though he and his family were all okay
2:45
at this experience, got him thinking about what really
2:48
mattered in his lights in an interview
2:50
with. The website Berkeley side will said
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quote: "When something like this happens,
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you get big picture, where do I want
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to live what sort of things do need to
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buy?" There. Will
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started reading stories about people shopping habits
3:03
and how they spend their free time, he started
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thinking about a game that would be like Sim City,
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but more personal stuff building.
3:09
An entire city, your character would
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build home and go about their everyday lives.
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When he took this idea back to the Max's is
3:19
board of directors, they were very impressed,
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but shortly after mattress was acquired
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by an up and coming juggernaut of a game
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company.
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The games saw the potential in Wales
3:32
idea and gave him the money he needed to
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make it, so we'll in the max esteem
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gotta work.
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We.
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Just certain a rooms and.
3:43
designed to the game for The
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couple years that's clear curtain
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on. On the sims,
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I was a designer
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and.
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The voice over director when.
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clear first started working on the game it wasn't
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even called the sims it was
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You're secretly gold dollhouse that,
4:02
name didn't last too long and dollhouse
4:05
was seen as being two
4:08
girls focused and of course
4:10
this game was to appeal to not
4:12
boys or girls but everybody.
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so they settled on they name the sims which
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is short for simulated people it's
4:20
also with the people and sim city were called
4:22
The sims as an overall over
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arching name was just.
4:26
the right thing for us out this game
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developed and evolves
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The late Nineties, the simmons was almost
4:35
ready for release, but the designers still
4:37
hadn't decided what the characters would sound like
4:39
they were worried that using a real language
4:41
would get super repetitive. There you
4:43
will get the same of a player.
4:45
Is constructing a universe where
4:47
they might test out things over
4:49
and over and over done, so what we didn't
4:51
want was repetition. And there
4:53
is nothing more boring than hearing
4:56
the. The phrase "over and over
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and over" The from the sims
5:00
that are on screen so, he needed
5:02
to run The structure
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of language any language that?
5:08
your ear would just get so
5:10
used to that it would become boring
5:13
and annoying
5:14
Instead of using an existing language, they
5:16
decided to just make one out. They
5:18
called it similar us.
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First. They tried blending sounds from different
5:25
languages together, we tried
5:27
to mixing up some languages
5:30
that we knew a little bit of
5:33
one was list Ukrainian border
5:35
multiple to huddle food. And I,
5:38
think we have some Estonian mind
5:40
the have say our stuff almost
5:42
Sunni Barber days to the. we
5:45
were really just trying to find In
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the right vocal sound, that.
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Well, again, not too
5:52
repetitive, but carried lot
5:54
of emotion, but none of these ideas
5:56
were really working, then the clear
5:58
remembered an exercise that she had seen. The actor's
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years. There's an exercise
6:03
that's done and improv theater of.
6:06
making up making think How am I have two
6:08
actors on stage one will make up a home
6:10
in completely gibberish language? And
6:12
the other one will translated
6:14
into English and it's usually Polaris
6:16
life. Then.
6:20
Clear realize that this could be a great way to
6:22
approach seamless, it would allow these characters
6:24
to be expressive and animated without
6:26
being locked into the rules of any specific
6:29
language, so she brought to improv
6:31
actors into the recording studio.
6:37
Even cure and Jerry Lawler where the male
6:39
and female voice in the game and
6:42
they were the most. play for
6:44
and creative people and
6:47
boy we're lucky to have them
6:49
While they recorded, the actors would watch animations
6:52
of the characters moving, and these are just
6:54
wire frame animations, not closed,
6:56
know expressions or anything on the.
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And both actors were in the booth
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at the same. On and as they were watching
7:03
the animation they would voice with their
7:05
own ideas of what it should sound
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like a me lotta
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how fast and then
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we would bounce back at odds.
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as not qualify Then
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we would sometimes too, depending.
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The complexity of the animation ten
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Sistine sometimes twenty takes person
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going, back and forth and back and forth on
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I'm on blast the model describe his
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size say mother not oh
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keep. up with someone and
7:34
or my that the great part about
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that was that they could play off
7:39
each other and they were
7:41
great friends and could really
7:44
read each other because they had done lot of
7:46
improv on stage together to
7:48
the banana having That is while
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lot of. Bad past map: I've done my
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motto, Robert, the so the flow
7:54
of this was really says
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terrific and very energetic" And
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really. To let,
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down oh no
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Now. There are a few official simplest words
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that have developed over the years, for example,
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soul and deg are both common
8:19
ways to say hello and goodbye, yes,
8:21
is gibbs. And know is need,
8:23
but ninety nine point nine percent of the dialogue
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in the game was made up on the spot by
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the voice actors and that gives
8:30
the simplest conversations. Lots
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of variety, it also allows you to
8:34
imagine what these characters are talking about.
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The point is that you put your own thoughts
8:39
and your own responses
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on to that subarus that you're hearing
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aid. is whatever know whatever it is That
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ranks and down.
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When the SIMs finally launched in the year two thousand
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it was a huge hit, it sold
8:53
eleven million copies, which made it
8:55
one of the most popular games that year.
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Pretty soon, he a started releasing expansion
9:00
packs for the game, followed by several
9:02
sequels as the series grew
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and grew more voice actors got to learn
9:06
the secrets of similar.
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Not know, almost am I now sybil
9:13
with by emerge as the peri, maybe a soccer.
9:15
That's pretty of others, a voice actor
9:17
who's been working on the same as for almost decade.
9:20
No, in and make Saloon mother's person was on
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them for know that cannot.
9:24
At this point speaking and similar, says almost
9:26
second nature.
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I joked am trilingual, you know, Spanish,
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English and seamless, just love
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the way it rolls off the tongue.
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Can make it like oh Canada Yola
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for I wanna. die
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young law so it's
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really scares me scares lot of rains
9:43
prettiest fell in love with some listener
9:45
first audition mm
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The degree the audition is pretty great because there's like a
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fan and front of mare and
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she's taking herself out and we'll start with
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nonverbals the sam's and is like oh
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oh. but hey it's you know you just making
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things Then and maybe you're angry
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or you're on the.
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One and, like, ah, you know what
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other news to move the?
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And similar has basically no structure
10:08
you might think it would be easy to pick up, but
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it's actually pretty hard to talk continuously
10:13
without using any real words, some
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of the voice actors they bring in just can't pull
10:17
it off.
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I. Worked with one of the gentlemen's
10:20
it unfortunately got caught and he was having
10:22
a hard time with, said: "I think lot
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of it and I think that this is to. To most
10:27
artistic endeavors is the ability to
10:29
release control for stuff like
10:31
that you've really gotta just be able.
10:34
to flow i think just being relaxed about
10:36
it once you get the idea
10:39
of the world that you're supposed to be living
10:41
and living think the best thing to do with kind
10:43
of free fall into it and
10:45
let your own instincts guide you
10:51
The for some people finding that flow is
10:53
almost impossible.
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It's kind of funny with a sandwich because
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some people sort of got it in, could do it,
11:00
and other people could just never do it.
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That's jury Martin, he was the audio director
11:04
and lead composer for the Sims and
11:07
Sim City.
11:11
Hi. crikey Yeah, Jere has been a lot
11:13
of people who really struggle with as gibberish
11:15
language in fact there was point
11:17
further on in series where
11:20
Drew Carey Line.
11:22
Is it anyway so everything's made up of the points don't
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matter, he apparently really
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like the sam's in wanted to get
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involved in so he wanted
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to do some semblance? And
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so I said one of my sound designers down
11:35
to L. A. The Record, ham apparently
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couldn't really do the same was she couldn't improvise
11:41
and so he actually wrote. It out
11:44
fanatically or side and at how exactly
11:46
wrote it out but he wrote it out and so he did. at
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our those recordings were
11:50
used in the sims house party expansion
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pack your character throws expansion good enough party
11:55
a sim version of drew carey shows up
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in limo
12:00
I don't know my also,
12:02
boost up. that drew carey
12:04
wasn't the only celebrity who made celebrity into the sims
12:07
after the game became a hit the got
12:09
artist like the black eyed peas the flaming
12:11
lips and katy perry to record seamless
12:14
versions of their music all their while
12:16
this gibberish language started spreading
12:18
to the masses that's coming up
12:20
after the break
12:31
Then. Hams is a real life simulation
12:33
game that came out just as Reality TV
12:36
was taking off in game, the characters
12:38
all speak quirky, gibberish language
12:40
called them "less Ah" Day you'll
12:43
see Samson or Summa
12:45
Gibbs even, if
12:47
he sounds don't have any specific meaning
12:49
they still do great job of conveying emotion
12:52
just by listening it's pretty easy. To tell
12:54
when your sim as excited about something, like
12:58
when they're, angry or
13:01
when they're,. being flirtatious fans
13:05
of though Of
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course similar was just one part
13:10
of the game's over audio experience,
13:12
they also needed music that would be just as distinct
13:15
and memorable as the dialogue.
13:17
I basically wrote some simple
13:19
sketches of the melodies
13:21
and some chords, and, you know, had some little
13:24
arrests and stuff in mind.
13:26
That's theory Martin, who composed most of the music
13:28
for the original game when Jerry first started
13:31
Sim's creator Will Ray, gave him some general
13:33
direction.
13:34
The input was he wanted to hear kind
13:36
of a new age jazz seal
13:39
for the build mode and the sam's,
13:41
which turned out pretty good.
13:51
Other than that I. was pretty much on
13:53
my own as far as figure out what
13:55
might go good with ads a sort of came
13:57
up with the idea this sort of fifties
14:00
Shopping music kind of throwback
14:02
to the old, you know, nice
14:05
family TV shows.
14:15
In a game, your sim can also listen to the radio
14:17
and tune in to different stations that
14:20
means they needed songs in bunch of different
14:22
genres, for instance, will write
14:24
specifically wanted boss, Nova song for
14:26
the Latin station.
14:31
For the country
14:34
station, they brought in a life bluegrass band.
14:44
Now. I'm of the songs were instrumental, but
14:46
others needed vocals similar moguls,
14:49
so Jerry had a coach the studio musicians
14:51
to seeing in seamless, according
14:53
to him, the key is to mumble.
14:55
One of my pet peeves with seamless
14:58
who is when some of the actors would
15:00
enunciate too much it would sound
15:02
kind of fake to me so.
15:04
i would always try to get them to make it more
15:06
mumble a so that it sounded more realistic
15:10
For example, here's a country tune called Hippie,
15:12
okay, oh?
15:34
The one had a pretty strong
15:36
Nineties alternative rock virus.
15:48
Read the restoration and the understand a bunch
15:50
of different rap.
16:00
Not very. remembers having
16:02
to remind them not to fall back into their
16:04
english lyrics a lot of them would kind
16:06
of revert back to their wrapping him and
16:08
sneak their words back and
16:22
The series got bigger and bigger,
16:24
so did the star power behind it pretty
16:26
soon, same as artists were recording
16:28
similar versions of their songs to use in the
16:30
game. The black eyed peas recorded
16:33
several tracks for an expansion pack called
16:35
The Herb's Sims in the City, here's
16:37
the original version of their songs, shut up.
16:42
The'and and will just put an hour with one
16:44
of the, being sick. and
16:47
here it is
16:57
He to pat expansion pack the flaming
16:59
lips, redid their song free radicals,
17:01
here's the original.
17:14
And here's a similar spurs
17:16
and sitting, down,.
17:19
and only
17:23
got us And twenty
17:25
ten soldier boy released his single
17:27
speakers going hammer the.
17:36
similar version came out just week later
17:38
and nine season hat
17:48
The reef retreats Katy Perry recorded
17:50
her song last breath.
18:02
And the similar version is called "Last
18:04
Freebie New"
18:15
And it doesn't stop there, Depeche Mode
18:17
redid their songs suffer well.
18:27
The ban on did a version of their hit single,
18:30
"We are Ya"
18:42
Nelly Furtado did her song Munhoz
18:44
l I raise. The
18:58
eating of melees, a recent SIMS expansion
19:00
pack, included Discover Track. So
19:09
if you ever wanted kid friendly version of Saddam
19:12
here, ditch the kids, Bob and turn on
19:14
the same soundtrack. Course
19:23
he wouldn't be licensing all of these songs
19:25
and making all of these sequels if the games
19:27
didn't have skewed fan base.
19:30
The people in the coming a around
19:32
the sims are amazing, really
19:34
fast enough funds to people from
19:37
all of the well.
19:37
Me.
19:43
Who are none of mine as friend
19:45
she bought I as multiple YouTube
19:47
channels and I'd love to play
19:49
in the Sims and making videos about this him?
19:52
Ricci Bob has been a Sims fan since
19:54
the very beginning.
19:56
In the year, two thousand
19:59
my friends.
20:00
The at not and he said
20:02
I've got this game I think oh really like
20:04
it and. goodness i remember
20:07
sign up for the also
20:09
After a few hours she decided to take break,
20:11
so she put her sister in charge of watching over
20:13
her sam's but when she came back,
20:15
she found out that her since house was on fire.
20:20
Palmer of this does she's like a lot younger
20:22
than me too late sir,
20:29
Then after that I was totally
20:31
hugs and then got
20:34
really into it when the Sims Three came
20:36
on, started by in every pack, can
20:38
all the DLC and that kind of stuff, and it's
20:40
been like that ever since just of
20:43
us.
20:47
Tuesday's reading about posts all kinds
20:49
of seems content on her YouTube channels
20:52
including reviews demos and similar
20:54
tutorials suit Hello,
20:57
oh see below is. so
21:01
angry The new to. But
21:04
her favorite videos to make or when she sings
21:06
seamless versions of popular songs.
21:09
Then I make my some ice parodies,
21:11
it is am transpired
21:14
that this magical place in my head
21:16
and it just flows out
21:18
of may definitely the best and
21:20
easiest one to saying was
21:22
Hella by Adele Assistance
21:25
because this is so funny as A. That
21:27
in it sounds.
21:32
But
21:37
yeah that was the nicest because it's nice and slow
21:39
and he can to sell out that.
21:42
sounds like a personal audit them
21:55
The comedy in it's a fact that
21:57
you've got this person's
21:59
singing. That been completely made
22:01
up of language and absolutely
22:04
probably sounded very all falls
22:06
to sing in our how is
22:09
it is so funny to me, it's
22:12
as to the comedy of the game which is law
22:14
doesn't listen the SIM's is supposed
22:16
to do is make people smile.
22:35
It's. "Been more than twenty years since the
22:37
first Sims game came out in the series
22:39
is still going strong, even playing
22:41
it for just a few minutes, it's easy
22:44
to see why" It became such hit,
22:46
it's one of the first games that allowed you to create
22:48
world that exactly the way you wanted
22:51
to be, and it's not just world.
22:53
That allies.
22:55
Like truly universal worldwide
22:58
age wide, it's Kansas
23:00
be played by any body is
23:03
not a violin is just
23:06
so pure and you can take
23:08
it in any direction.
23:09
You want to similar?
23:12
she is just one part of this game but
23:14
it's a crucial part it's part gibberish
23:16
language were the only meaning comes from
23:18
the emotions behind the sounds and
23:20
that means that anyone can understand it
23:22
understand anyone can speak it
23:25
Not. Be the sense without seamless,
23:27
it's a language from no one
23:29
made for everyone, everyone
23:31
has access to it, nobody is excluded
23:34
from me and I think it's really
23:36
amazing that they" Had that vision
23:39
when they first created this game to
23:41
have a language where it would be accessible to
23:44
all.
23:44
For super fans like ricci Bob, similar
23:46
has become more than just part of the game
23:49
is part of their culture.
23:51
It's a very special things
23:53
the same as the site deep rooted
23:55
dance as player if. he
23:58
Where
24:00
the game that I love so
24:03
it's immediate friendship I.
24:05
mean like led to the people that
24:07
we meet when we go to international
24:09
of and saw on line especially
24:12
he don't really know like who are to do this
24:14
is so through an email
24:34
Twenty thousand Hertz is hosted by Me. Dallas
24:36
Taylor and produced out of the sound design studios,
24:39
a de facto sound to get some tasty
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sonic snacks, follow de facto sound
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on Instagram. Better prepared
24:45
was written and produced by Hannah, see it. Andrew
24:47
Anderson and Casey Emily. How
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from Sam?
24:51
No it was sound designed and mixed by soren
24:53
de San Angelo Border with
24:55
the original music by was a sliver
24:58
thanks. to our guests clear curtain pretty
25:00
of our hosts jerry martin and rachel
25:02
party also known as ricci boss
25:05
he could find links to rachel's you tube channels and
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the show description bruce willis
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