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Back in college, I was a music major. And
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one of the requirements of my degree was that I
1:33
had to take singing lessons. Out
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of every class I took, this was the most
1:37
anxiety-inducing. Because while
1:39
I was a good trumpet player, as a kid
1:41
from Arkansas, I just couldn't get rid of
1:44
the country twang in my singing. I was
1:46
super nervous about it, and let's just say
1:49
it didn't go that well.
1:52
The only song I remember singing was, You'll
1:54
Never Walk Alone, from the musical carousel.
1:57
And to this day, I still can't hear that
1:59
song without a cringing.
2:12
But on the plus side, that experience did
2:15
give me an appreciation for just how complex
2:17
the human voice is.
2:20
I'm fascinated by the ways that people can
2:22
manipulate their voices to the point where
2:25
they can make sounds that feel truly out
2:27
of this world. Our producer, Martin
2:29
Ostwick, is also a talented musician, so
2:31
when he suggested that we make an episode about
2:34
the extraordinary range of the human voice,
2:36
it seemed like the perfect chance to give this topic
2:39
the attention that it deserves. I'll let
2:41
Martin take it from here.
2:44
My
2:44
love of audio all started out with my love
2:46
of singing. I've been a singer-songwriter
2:48
for probably about 20 years, but I've
2:50
never formally studied singing, so I
2:52
don't really understand how people make these
2:54
incredible sounds with their voices.
2:57
What's the difference between head voice and chest voice?
3:00
How high and how low can people sing? And
3:02
most importantly, how does Mariah
3:05
Carey do that whistling thing with her voice?
3:16
I know enough to know that singing starts with vocal chords.
3:19
Our vocal system is really complicated,
3:22
but imagine a big tube that comes up from
3:24
your lungs. What's the trachea, or
3:27
windpipe?
3:28
The vocal chords are basically a pair of fleshy
3:30
curtains, and they can close across
3:32
that windpipe to stop things falling down
3:34
into your lungs.
3:35
Things like food, twigs,
3:38
small birds. But these curtains
3:40
are really flexible,
3:41
and as they move in different ways, the
3:43
air passing over them makes them vibrate,
3:46
which produces sound.
3:52
And it's absolutely most basic.
3:54
There's really only four things that your
3:56
vocal chords can do. That's vocal
3:58
coach Matt Ramsey.
3:59
They can stretch, they
4:02
can thicken, they can open,
4:05
and they can close. Everything
4:08
we do with our voice, from whispering to
4:11
screaming to singing, starts with some
4:13
combination of these ingredients. But
4:15
before that sound comes out of our mouths, it
4:17
goes through something called the resonation
4:20
system. And the resonation system is
4:22
everything that's on top of the
4:24
vocal cords, from the throat
4:26
to your cheeks to your lips,
4:29
tongue, and teeth. All these
4:31
things are creating resonance and kind
4:33
of shaping the sound of the vocal
4:35
cords.
4:39
With enough control over these components, we can do
4:41
some truly amazing things with our voices,
4:44
like singing two notes at once.
4:46
Here's a clip of a German singer named Anna Maria
4:48
Heffella.
4:59
But before we can reach the outer limits of
5:01
the vocal stratosphere, we need to
5:03
start at ground level.
5:04
First up is the chest voice. Chest
5:07
voice is probably the most common terminology
5:09
used for the lower range of the voice.
5:12
Basically, the vocal cords, they're
5:14
a little bit thicker and slacker. And
5:16
so when we hear those low
5:18
notes that Johnny Cash sings, because
5:21
you're mine, I walk
5:23
the line.
5:24
Or Amy Winehouse sings, waiting
5:27
for you in the hotel at night.
5:30
Or Adele sings,
5:31
I was wondering
5:33
if after all these years
5:35
you'd like to meet.
5:37
Those are coming from the vocal cords
5:40
vibrating a bit slower. Next up
5:42
is head voice, which is basically the
5:44
opposite of chest voice. And that
5:46
just comes from the opposite vocal cord
5:48
configuration. So in chest voice, the
5:51
vocal cords are kind of thick and slack. But
5:53
as you stretch them, it's going to vibrate faster,
5:55
creating higher notes. So
5:57
a fantastic example of this really...
5:59
full head voice sound that I'm talking about
6:02
is a song, Grenade by Bruno Mars. When
6:04
he goes for that. I catch
6:06
a grenade for ya,
6:09
throw my hand on a blade
6:12
for ya. I
6:14
jump in front of a tree
6:16
for ya. Some other examples of head voice
6:18
would be the higher notes of Sir Duke by
6:20
Stevie Wonder. Baking feelings
6:23
all over. Baking
6:26
feelings all over. And
6:30
Two Birds by Regina Spector. Two
6:33
birds on a wire.
6:38
Another way that people hit those high notes is something
6:40
called belting. It's a technique of singing
6:42
loudly and powerfully in your upper register.
6:45
To the point where it can sometimes sound strained.
6:48
Think John Lennon singing Twist and Shout.
6:50
Well
6:50
shake it up baby now. Shake
6:53
it up baby. Twist and
6:55
shout.
6:56
It just doesn't get any better than that. He's
6:59
just screaming it out basically. The
7:01
legend goes that this is at the very very end of
7:03
their recording day and John's voice
7:05
was already shot. Which is why there's so much
7:07
kind of a rough quality which we
7:10
all love about this recording. Well
7:12
shake it, shake it, shake it baby now. Shake
7:15
it up baby. Well shake it, shake it,
7:17
shake it baby now. Shake it up
7:19
baby.
7:20
Aside from belting, another way to
7:22
add a bit of grit to your performance is
7:24
with a so-called pharyngeal voice. It's
7:26
what makes Axl Rose sound like Axl Rose.
7:29
I'll bet you at another time.
7:33
Shake it to the end of the line.
7:35
We think that pharyngeal voice was first discovered
7:38
by choir singers before they
7:41
allowed females to sing in the all-male
7:43
papal choir.
7:49
And so these choir directors were
7:51
trying to figure out, man how do I get these
7:53
guys to sing higher?
7:57
And so what they discovered was that there was this weird.
8:00
kind of like ugly voice, what they call the
8:02
voce farinja, or the pharyngeal voice,
8:04
or the throaty voice, which just kind
8:06
of sounds like.
8:07
Oh. But
8:16
if you need to get even higher, you may need
8:19
falsetto. Whereas head voice, it's
8:21
typically a fuller, rounder
8:23
sound. Falsetto is a little bit thinner.
8:26
It's just a little bit more hollow and kind of false
8:28
sounding.
8:29
When most people sing falsetto, the vocal
8:31
chords never completely close.
8:33
And since there's always a little bit of air coming through,
8:36
it sounds breathier.
8:37
So a great example of this kind of falsetto
8:40
sound would be the song Reckoner by
8:42
Radiohead.
8:43
["Reckoner"]
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Some people say only men can sing
8:54
falsetto, but Matt is not very impressed
8:57
with that argument. Remember, falsetto
8:59
is just a thinner closure of
9:01
the vocal chords. And so these
9:03
days, when we're seeing lots of modern female
9:06
vocalists that are singing really breathy,
9:08
I'm talking about Olivia Rodrigo.
9:10
["Reckoner"]
9:16
I'm talking about Billie Eilish.
9:25
I'm talking about Maggie Rogers. ["Reckoner"]
9:32
All of these female singers are singing
9:35
very, very lightly throughout their range.
9:37
And that falsetto is absolutely
9:39
present there. At the very top
9:42
of the vocal range is the whistle register.
9:44
That's what Mariah Carey is using in tracks
9:46
like Emotions.
9:48
["Wistel Register"]
9:54
Whistle register isn't just limited to women. For
9:57
instance, his Adam Lopez using it in his song
9:59
O Sole Mi. The
10:11
way that sound is produced is still a bit
10:13
of a mystery. What
10:17
scientists think is creating that
10:20
is rather than the entire length of the vocal
10:22
chords vibrating together, they
10:25
think it's just maybe the very, very front
10:27
portion. And since it's just a very,
10:29
very small portion of vibrating
10:31
mass, the frequencies that you get off
10:33
of that are incredibly high. Whistle
10:36
seems to be a bit easier for children.
10:40
Part of that may be a cultural thing that as
10:42
kids we're encouraged to kind of play with our voices a
10:44
whole lot. And we just go and explore
10:47
all the lengths of the human range. Now
10:49
an interesting thing about Mariah Carey's
10:52
whistle is that she talks about
10:54
in many interviews about how
10:56
she was able to discover that part of her voice is
10:58
that she was sick a lot as a kid.
11:01
Here's Mariah Carey talking about being sick as a child
11:04
on KBS
11:04
and Career. And when
11:06
I would wake up I would always be like, I couldn't
11:08
speak, I wouldn't sound like this. And
11:11
then I would also be like, I
11:13
can't talk.
11:15
And I was in that range. And
11:18
my mother was like, why are you talking
11:20
like that? Like, what are you doing? And I was like,
11:23
let's go.
11:26
The whistle register takes us to the upper limit of
11:28
the human voice. Brazilian singer
11:31
Georgia Brown holds the Guinness record for the largest
11:33
vocal range by a female.
11:35
Here she is demonstrating her incredible upper
11:37
range.
11:38
If you have dogs in the house, maybe cover their ears. Now
11:53
that we've reached the top of the vocal range, let's
11:56
head down to the bottom. We're now entering
11:58
the land of vocal pride.
12:03
Vocal fry is basically
12:06
the lowest vocal
12:08
register in the voice, and whereas
12:11
with chest voice, the vocal cords are
12:13
kind of thick and they're vibrating,
12:16
but they have some amount of tension to them.
12:18
Vocal fry is like if I just let loose completely
12:21
and just let air just kind of bubble
12:23
through it, creating that kind
12:24
of
12:28
sound. One performer who's
12:30
especially known for vocal fry is Britney
12:32
Spears.
12:33
Back in 1998, we heard
12:36
Britney Spears singing,
12:38
oh baby, baby.
12:47
But this technique is extremely common
12:49
across genders. For example, in the chorus
12:51
of Hero by Enrique Iglesias, he
12:54
fries the start of each line.
12:56
I can be your hero,
12:58
baby. I
13:03
can kiss away the pain.
13:07
Using vocal fry, some singers can reach incredibly
13:09
low notes.
13:10
Vocalist Tim Storms holds the Guinness
13:12
record for the lowest note produced by a human
13:14
being, as well as the widest overall
13:17
vocal range. Here's a bit of that
13:19
unbelievable low end. But
13:33
of course, there's more to vocal technique
13:35
than just hitting high notes and low notes.
13:38
Singing is also about conveying mood, tone,
13:41
and emotion,
13:42
and certain styles of singing were developed
13:44
to convey extreme emotions like
13:46
anger and despair. Big Growling,
13:49
for example,
13:50
that's a vocal style that was popularized by vocalists
13:52
like Chuck Schuliner from the Death Metal band
13:54
called, well, Death.
14:04
To achieve a sound like that, you need some help
14:06
from some of the other muscles in your neck.
14:08
So outside of your
14:10
pair of true vocal cords, there
14:12
are a couple of muscles. And when you get those
14:14
guys involved, you get a little bit of that, ooh,
14:19
where it sounds a little bit thicker, a little
14:21
bit gruffer, tends to be used a whole lot
14:23
more in metal music. The rabbit hole
14:25
of extreme metal vocals goes pretty deep.
14:28
From the low guttural tones of death metal bands
14:30
like Nile,
14:38
to the mid-range, almost goblin-like delivery
14:40
of black metal bands like Gorgoroth,
14:50
to the high-pitched shrieks of symphonic metal
14:53
bands like Cradle of Filth.
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Now when you combine a wide range of very
15:08
precise vocal techniques into a single
15:10
performance, you can get some truly mind-blowing
15:13
results.
15:14
Here's a piece called Sing a Little Harmony by
15:16
the beatboxer D-Lo.
15:26
So in this specific performance, I think
15:28
what would be super cool is if
15:31
we could just see almost like an MRI
15:33
of all of the things that his throat, his mouth,
15:36
his tongue, his teeth, everything is doing. And
15:38
what you would see is an absolute insane
15:41
view of the crazy machinery
15:44
that makes up the voice in general.
15:55
But
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for me, there's one singing technique I've
15:57
been fascinated with since I first heard it
15:59
over 20 years ago.
15:59
years ago. It's called throat singing or
16:02
overtone singing and perhaps the most famous
16:04
tradition in the world is from Tuva, a republic
16:06
of Russia that borders Mongolia.
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To
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For a couple of fleshy curtains that stop
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our lungs from filling up with debris. Food,
18:47
twigs, small birds. Our
18:50
vocal cords are surprisingly versatile.
18:52
They can create everything from head voice to chest
18:55
voice, to falsetto and vocal fry,
18:57
growling, whistling, screaming
18:59
and beyond.
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But none of these techniques fascinate me quite like the
19:06
throat singing of Tuva.
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I am Albert Kuvezin. I am musician,
19:22
singer and the leader of
19:24
Yad Ha band. Albert's band Yad
19:26
Ha have been recording and touring globally
19:29
for over 30 years. We are from
19:31
Tuva, which is south of Siberia,
19:34
just on the border with Mongolian People's
19:37
Republic.
19:39
When Albert was growing up, Tuva was part of the Soviet
19:41
Union.
19:42
And in the USSR, Western pop culture
19:44
was pretty much banned.
19:46
When I was young, it was really
19:49
only Russian language in
19:51
the radio and on TV too. It
19:53
was so hard to find other
19:55
music than offered by Communist Party.
19:58
To get around this, Albert and his-
19:59
friends started trading records they'd bought on the black
20:02
market.
20:03
Cassettes with western rock
20:05
music, but also Soviet underground
20:07
bands. Albert wanted to make his
20:09
own music, but he didn't have a very
20:11
encouraging start. I never was
20:14
a good singer, and even
20:16
once I was thrown from the school
20:19
choir,
20:20
because the conductor said that I
20:22
have no good ears, and
20:25
I cannot sing with the other people.
20:30
But
20:30
Albert was undeterred.
20:32
Luckily the school band offered him a new way to
20:34
make the music he loved.
20:35
In the school band, mostly we're
20:38
just being a kind of cover
20:40
band for a deeper pull.
20:48
All that's happening. Oh, let the
20:50
sun beat down upon my face.
20:54
The stars to fill my dreams.
20:58
Also some Soviet
21:00
pop and rock music.
21:02
Rastanjana chalam.
21:07
Nothing new.
21:12
In the Soviet Union, Tuvan culture
21:14
was basically ignored. The
21:15
Tuvan language wasn't typically taught in school,
21:18
and when Albert studied music in college, he
21:20
learned about classical music from Europe and
21:23
Russia. And nothing from
21:25
our own traditional music. But
21:27
as a young man, Albert connected with some throat
21:30
singers who inspired him.
21:31
I met some guys from countryside
21:34
who were great singers, and
21:36
they said I could try myself
21:39
Tuvan's role singing, and step
21:41
by step I just started to repeat
21:44
their voices. This meant learning
21:46
the proper technique, which was a very different approach
21:49
from the western style he was used to. It
21:51
is totally opposite. Like
21:53
for example, opera singing, they
21:56
must open, the mouths were
21:58
white and white.
21:59
made resonator.
22:02
But in throat singing? We must
22:04
press muscles of the throat and
22:07
make in the mouth very narrow
22:09
hole.
22:10
With practice, Albert developed his technique.
22:13
And suddenly I got the sound.
22:20
There are three broad styles of
22:23
tube and throat singing. The kargara, which
22:25
is very low, like a
22:27
growling sound.
22:32
The
22:41
second style, chumé, introduces a
22:43
subtle whistling overtone on top of the low
22:45
note.
22:58
In the third style, sugut, that
23:00
higher whistling tone is much more prominent.
23:03
Albert doesn't sing in this style. So here's
23:05
a singer from the Alash ensemble demonstrating
23:07
it. As
23:20
Albert developed his throat singing, he realized that
23:22
these techniques had something to offer rock
23:24
music. I got an idea
23:27
that, for example, Jimi Hendrix spent
23:29
a lot of money and time to
23:32
find effects for guitar.
23:45
But Albert realized he could make similar tones
23:47
just using his voice.
23:49
I just got these effects
23:51
in my throat.
23:53
Wow. Wow. Wow.
23:55
Wow.
24:16
Soon after, Albert fended Yapkar, a
24:18
band that blends tube and throat singing with rock and
24:20
other influences. These
24:34
days when he's not touring or recording, Albert will
24:36
sometimes just sing those low notes as a
24:38
way to relax.
24:40
When he does this, he often sings with his mouth closed.
24:42
I use my nose
24:45
holes and you can feel the vibration
24:47
in your body, especially in the chest
24:50
and head and
24:53
it is more like meditation.
24:56
He loves doing this in places with a great
24:58
natural reverb like a cave.
25:20
To me throat singing feels completely
25:22
different from any kind of singing I've ever done,
25:24
but
25:25
Albert told me it's not that difficult to learn. If
25:27
you can sing like tenor, body tone,
25:30
you can easily produce low
25:32
throat singing style. You need to have
25:35
good lungs and
25:37
good physical shape.
25:39
It's nothing special.
25:41
And this technique isn't limited to one particular age
25:43
group or gender.
25:44
Even young boys and
25:46
girls, they can
25:49
do this low style too.
25:51
It's an all female tubing group called Tuva
25:53
Kuzi.
26:06
Since the fall of the Soviet Union, it's become much
26:08
easier for people in Tuva to learn these traditions.
26:11
Thright singing is now taught at music schools for children
26:13
and in music colleges. In 2003,
26:16
the Tuvan National Orchestra was
26:18
founded.
26:19
Their performances often include multiple throat
26:21
singers singing in unison.
26:37
Tuva isn't the only place to have a tradition of throat
26:39
singing.
26:39
This is La Matashi from Tibet.
26:49
And
26:49
Mrs. Noah Letty Biswene from South Africa.
26:58
Northern Canada has a very different style of throat
27:00
singing, practiced as a kind of competitive game
27:03
between women as part of the Inuit culture.
27:05
This tradition often involves making sounds
27:07
with the inhalations as well as the exhalations.
27:10
Here's a demonstration by Inuk performer Tanya
27:12
Tagak.
27:19
Tanya is also a recording artist who blends
27:21
throat singing with industrial and electronic
27:23
sounds. Here's a clip of her song
27:25
Retribution.
27:40
Alba Kvazin and Tanya Tagak aren't
27:42
the only ones pushing throat singing in interesting new
27:44
directions. For example, a Mongolian
27:47
band called The Who
27:48
created a song for the game Star Wars Jedi
27:50
Fallen Order
27:51
in which they sing in a fictional alien
27:53
language.
28:17
There are so many ways that people use their voices to make
28:19
music and express themselves. But
28:21
how difficult are these techniques for people with very
28:23
little vocal training? Well, we
28:26
decided to put our money where our mouth is, quite
28:28
literally, and let vocal coach Matt
28:30
Ramsey put us through our paces. That's
28:32
right, you will hear me sing. And
28:35
wherever you are, do feel free to sing along.
28:38
That's coming up
28:39
after the break.
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30:07
Okay, where do you want to start?
30:09
So why don't we start at the very bottom? Let's just start
30:11
off with vocal fries. So just pretend
30:14
like you're just waking up first thing
30:16
in the morning.
30:18
You feel a little groggy and
30:20
you're just going. Another
30:27
day. Here we
30:30
go again. It's
30:33
another day to be Dallas Taylor.
30:36
Cool.
30:42
Beautiful, gentlemen. It's a beautiful choir
30:44
with vocal fry. There's our promo
30:47
right there. Good. Now
30:49
let's make our next stop in the chest
30:51
voice. So what we want to do is
30:53
we want to just say a nice, open,
30:56
ugly, na
30:57
na na. Like
30:59
you're saying nasty. There
31:01
you go. Uh-huh.
31:05
Martin. You
31:08
got it. You got it. Now what's interesting about
31:10
that sound is a lot of people when they start
31:12
singing is they're going to be very, very light. So
31:15
they might go na na na. The
31:17
issue with that is that if you start off na
31:20
na na, kind of light on the bottom, then
31:22
as you go up higher and those vocal cords
31:24
aren't closing as effectively, you're going to get
31:27
even lighter. And it's very, very difficult to
31:29
get access to those top notes. Sound
31:31
bad,
31:32
Matt Ramsey. Vocal coach extraordinaire.
31:36
I would just add an addendum. You have
31:38
to sound bad in order to sound good.
31:41
There we go.
31:42
So let's take a look at the head
31:44
voice now. Why don't we just try going for
31:46
a nice, easy foo.
31:49
So starting from a high note,
31:52
foo, on the word foo
31:54
as in food. So high note
31:56
down.
32:01
Right, now the reason
32:03
that you had a break there was because you
32:05
were starting in falsetto where those vocal chords
32:07
really weren't closing all that much. And
32:10
then when you came back to your chest voice at the very end, they
32:13
snapped together again. And
32:15
in fact, the break is actually a good thing. It means that
32:17
you're actually going between the different registers in your voice. But
32:20
of course, we don't want to stop there. We want
32:22
to continue to train it until it's almost indistinguishable. Oooooooh
32:30
That's impossible. That was black
32:32
magic. Martin,
32:36
why don't you try?
32:37
Where am I starting on this? Fuh?
32:41
Ooh. That sounds
32:44
high. Yeah.
32:51
Oooooooh That
32:54
was it. Now, let's try to thicken that sound
32:56
up a little bit and maybe even go towards a little
32:58
bit more of this kind of belting sound. Now,
33:01
can you say the word nay as
33:03
in neighbor?
33:04
Naaaaay Ooh,
33:07
there's a break up there. Naaaaay Ooh,
33:12
nah, nah, nah I don't think I
33:14
can go that high. That's totally fine. This actually
33:16
takes a really, really long time for
33:18
people to learn how to do, to just go from that
33:21
nay, nay, nay, nay to that nay, nay,
33:23
nay, nay, nay, nay, nay, nay, nay,
33:26
nay and having
33:28
that really full sound at the top. Longer than 22 seconds or so, you think?
33:33
Usually longer than 22 seconds. Okay, alright.
33:36
Yes. Martin, you try now. Naaaaay
33:41
Lovely. Do you hear how there wasn't really that big
33:43
of a break on the way down there? So let's just experiment
33:46
with belting for a second. Dallas, why don't
33:48
we try this? Can you go naaaaa-troll?
33:52
Naaaaa, that pitch? That pitch. Why
33:55
does it sound so high to me and not very high to you? Naaaaa,
33:58
naaaaa You're right on my break. Exactly.
34:01
Exactly. So
34:03
belting happens above the brake, typically.
34:05
Oh, I'm on the brake. Natural.
34:10
There you go. You hear that? Yeah, I do. I do. But
34:12
you have such a lovely voice. I want to push
34:14
you even a little bit further, Dallas. You can tell how
34:16
uncomfortable I am. Thank you for that comment.
34:18
You're doing great, buddy. You're doing great. So
34:21
let's.
34:22
I'm not coddling you, I swear. Natural.
34:26
Natural. There you go,
34:28
buddy. Now go.
34:29
Na, na, na, na, na, na, na,
34:31
na, na, na, na,
34:33
na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na,
34:35
na, na,
34:37
natural. Natural.
34:41
Well, let's finish our tour of the different
34:43
vocal ranges at the very, very top whistle register.
34:46
Now this may be
34:47
very well something that you do or don't
34:49
have. Some days I have it, some days I don't. We'll
34:51
see what happens today. So you're
34:54
waking up first thing in the morning. And
34:56
then you just kind of go like you're going to stretch,
35:00
which brings your vocal cords together.
35:02
And then you just kind of let the note whistle
35:04
out. Like. Ah. Way
35:13
to go, Martin. There's
35:16
nothing, not a thing. There
35:20
you go. There you go. There's something there, Dallas.
35:27
There you go, Dallas.
35:29
OK, I can do it. I don't know if I
35:31
could control that. But I'm sure as a very positive
35:33
vocal coach, you'll be like, you sure can.
35:39
OK, so Dallas and I, we probably
35:42
won't be covering Adam Lopez any time soon.
35:45
But while people like him and Tim Storms
35:47
and Mariah Carey may seem to have an almost
35:49
superhuman range, it's really important to
35:51
remember how many hugely influential singers there are
35:53
whose range is much, much smaller. There
35:56
is kind of an obsession
35:58
with expanding.
35:59
vocal range and I just want
36:02
to make it very clear that that is not the
36:04
point of vocal training. The point
36:06
of vocal training is to sing songs better. So
36:09
I think of these different
36:11
techniques as kind of like colors in
36:13
your palette as a singer. You
36:15
know you can use vocal fry to express
36:18
emotion. Not the entire song has to be in vocal
36:20
fry but if you look at the song I'm
36:22
Not the Only One by Sam Smith they
36:25
sing.
36:36
So it's just those little tinges of
36:38
that fry that kind of express that emotionality
36:41
to it and the same thing is true for belting.
36:46
When
36:46
you're belting for that high note
36:51
That's designed to elicit an emotion
36:54
and to express what the singer
36:56
is feeling. In
36:59
fact there are times when quote
37:01
unquote bad singing might be the perfect
37:03
way to express the emotions you're going for.
37:06
Over the years there have been plenty of famous
37:08
singers who have pretty terrible traditional
37:11
vocal technique but that doesn't make
37:13
the music they create any less powerful. You
37:16
know this is even more controversial but
37:18
I think Bob Dylan's a great singer. They
37:20
sat together in the park
37:24
as the evening sky grew dark she
37:28
looked at him and he felt a spark tingle
37:31
to his bones towards
37:35
then he felt alone and wished
37:38
that he'd gone straight.
37:41
I define good singing as people that make
37:43
me feel something
37:45
and whenever I listen to Bob Dylan sing I feel
37:47
something even if it's not great technique
37:50
so there's a difference between good technique vocalists
37:53
and great singers.
38:00
Twisted shout.
38:03
It's just a bit too polite. It's too
38:05
polite, yeah, exactly.
38:15
20,000 Hertz is produced out of the sound design studios
38:17
of De facto Sound. Find out more
38:19
at de facto sound dot com. This
38:22
episode was written, produced, and reported by Martin
38:24
Zoltz-Worstwick. It was story edited
38:26
by Casey Emerling.
38:27
With help from Grace East. It
38:30
was sound design and mixed by Justin Hollis,
38:33
Joel Boyder, and Brandon Pratt.
38:36
Thanks to our guests, Matt Ramsey and
38:38
Albert Kuvesen. You can find Matt's
38:40
online vocal lessons on his YouTube channel,
38:43
which is Ramsey Voice Studio. Then
38:45
you can hear Albert's band, Yaka, wherever
38:47
you listen to music. You can find links to
38:49
both in the show notes. For another
38:52
great music episode, check out episode 121. It's
38:55
called Progression Obsession, and it was also
38:57
written by Martin. It's all about the chord
38:59
progressions that get used over and over
39:01
again in popular music. I'm
39:04
Dallas Taylor. Thanks for listening.
39:14
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39:16
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39:25
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39:28
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39:33
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39:38
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39:49
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