This unapologetic conversation is all about something so many of us need to hear: how to talk to your spouse. Your spouse is one of the most important people in your life, and how you talk to them matters. For this week’s episode of Unapologetic Conversations, Julia sat down with pastor and bestselling author Gary Thomas to do just that!

All marriages go through seasons of struggle, but after raising three kids with his wife, Lisa, Gary knows a thing or two about doing the work to make your marriage the best it can be. During their conversion Julia and Gary talk about the different seasons of life and parenting, why couples are more likely to divorce during certain life stages, how to reconcile and overcome even the biggest of hurts, and the difference between married couples who simply stay together and those who cherish each other. Gary ends the conversation by sharing his no. 1 piece of marriage advice that all couples need to hear. Whatever season of marriage you’re currently in, or if you’re simply wanting to be married someday, this episode is a must-listen!

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