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Welcomed, unobscured a production of I Heart
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Radio and Aaron Minky the
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spiritual touring actor Grigory
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Rasputin. That's what the Moscow
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Gazette called him, But that was just
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the headline. Things only got worse
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for Grigory from there. Apparently
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the writer knew all the favorite talking points
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from the elite salons. He was
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a cunning Siberian charlatan, a
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predatory letcher, a hypnotist,
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and a false teacher who used his ideas
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about holy love to get far too
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up close and personal with his followers.
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They called him a pseudo prophet and
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damned him for teaching spiritual delusions
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that were opposite of the traditions of the Orthodox
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Church. But the article didn't
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stop at condemning Resputant's delusions
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and false holiness. It also attacked
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other areas of his life. It accused
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Grigory of being a lazy, deadbeat,
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a man who had abandoned his family in
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Pokrovsko, whose children were
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fatherless and unruly, and
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the thor even said that in investigating
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his piece, he had spoken with a church
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leader who called Gregory a heretic and
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a sexual predator. As
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far as the press goes this was about as damning
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as it gets, and digging behind the
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article we can see why, like so
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many others in Russia, the journalist who
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wrote the Peace believed that the church was in trouble
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and needed to be reformed. Like our
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command right theo fan, the writer
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looked to Russia's wandering holy men as
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a source of hope. In
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some ways, Gregory seemed like exactly
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the kind of person he was looking for, a
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peasant who had formed a bridge between the
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Czar and the peasant class, bringing
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the voice of the so called ordinary
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Russian to the ear of the Czar himself.
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But here's the problem. Rasputant's
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dark side was actually giving all of
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Russia's holy men a bad name, claiming
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to be a holy leader while using his
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position to feed on the vulnerabilities of
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his followers. It's easy to
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see why anyone would think this left their
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approach in tatters. If they were
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going to hold onto the idea that Russian holy
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men could revitalize the faith and life
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of the Empire, they had to figure out
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how things had gone so wrong with Grigory.
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If condemning Rasputant as a heretic
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and a letger sounds familiar.
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That's because it was the message our command right
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theo Fan was spreading far and wide. In
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fact, theo Fan himself might be the churchman
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who worked with the author behind the scenes.
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But regardless of who the hidden sources
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were for the writer, the fact is that
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defenders of the Church and defenders
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of the Czar alike swarmed to
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the takedown like it fed their starving
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souls. Other papers across
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Russia instantly copied the article and
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reprinted it. They knew when there
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was blood in the water, and what sells
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a paper better than a sex scandal at the
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crossroads of the Church and the Crown. Once
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again, the paper had taken the public's
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temperature. Letters flooded into
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the Moscow Gazette. New stories
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of Grigory restputants bad behavior
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were piled onto the first reports,
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and as the accusations mounted, it
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led the editors of the Gazette to trumpet
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one question above the clamoring throng.
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If Grigory Resputin was such a dangerous
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conman, why didn't the Church or
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the Crown rise up and do something
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to root him out? The
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monarchist newspapers thought they might open
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Nicholas's eyes to the dangers of Resputin
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and separate the monarchy from the mystic.
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But the reformers and revolutionaries across
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Russia were only too happy to point out
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that Resputin and the Romanovs
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seemed to be inseparable. They
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followed the monarchist press in denouncing
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Rasputin, not to save the imperial
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family, but to condemn it. Their
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answer to the question of why Nicholas didn't
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do something was that the Romanovs themselves
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were hapless fools and needed to
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be thrown out along with their court soothsayers.
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Issue after issue delved into
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Resputant's background, his heretical
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teaching, and his violence against women.
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To the leftist press, all of
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these were the fault of Nicholas and Alexandra.
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None of these press reports got the story
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right, though monarchists and revolutionaries
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alike layered rumor and insinuation
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over every kernel of truth. But
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all the reporting was eaten up by a public
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hungry for more news about the secret
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inner workings of the Romanov's domestic
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world. And then there's this deep irony
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to contend with. Russia at the time
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was an empire divided. Not only
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were revolutionary groups and monarchist
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brigades battling each other for the future
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of Russia, but they were often fighting
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within their own ranks. Each faction
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rarely managed to maintain their alliances
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for long, and yet in Rasputin
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they were now finding a common cause, or
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better put, a common enemy.
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This is unobscured. I'm
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Aaron Manky.
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Yeah, the
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attacks on Rasputin went international.
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If the Russian papers thought they were cleaning house
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and taking down Rasputin, they couldn't foresee
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just how far the stories about him would travel
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and how long the legends they were creating
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would endure. Within a few
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weeks, the splashy articles were being
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distributed across Russia. The
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Austrian ambassador wrote back to Vienna
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about the unfolding scandal, and, of
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course, for the royals across Europe, the question
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of how Nicholas and Alexandra could take a heretical
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priest into their confidence was a real
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puzzle, and the ambassador offered his
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view. The royal couple were simply unwilling
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to see that their relationship with Grigory
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Rasputin was a problem. It was a
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real flash of insights. He saw
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that in the eyes of Nicholas and Alexandra.
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Rasputin was untouchable. But
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it wasn't just the stories about the Romanov's
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spiritual advisor that slipped the borders
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of Russia. It was the Romanovs themselves.
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In the years after the nineteen oh five Revolution,
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and with all the changes that were shaking Russian
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society, Nicholas and Alexandra
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often found time to get away from it all. Not
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that this was anything new. Hunting
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lodges and holiday homes were always
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the privilege of the European royals. Nicholas
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and Alexandra were no exception, and
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of course family visits double as political
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meetings when the family are all heads of
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states. For example, ever since their marriage
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began, Nicholas and Alexandra had regularly
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traveled back to her old stomping grounds in
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Germany, and Nicholas even had a Russian
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Orthodox chapel built for Alexander there.
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Often they stayed with Alexandra's brother Ernie
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at his summer retreat, or visited
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relatives in the Danish royal family,
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and these visits didn't slow down as their family
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grew. As things heated up at home. I can
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only imagine that they were too happy to slip
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the troubled borders of their empire, leave
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the trouble some issues in the hands of a prime
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minister like stoile Epan, and try to
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find some cleaner air. Of course,
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there was a more personal reason that the Romana
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family would have wanted to retreat from the
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turmoil of their empire into some sort of
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tranquility. You see, Alexandra was
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sick, and the truth was she had been sick
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for years. Here's historian Helen
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Rappaport to tell us more. I
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think Alexandra clearly
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was plagued with sciatica from
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her teens, because when
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it was announced she was going to marry Nikki in
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April eighteen nine four, one of the first
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things Queen Victoria arranged
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was to get her treatment for
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this crippling scietic pain she suffered
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from. So she was sent to Harrogate
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for a water cure, and that was the
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first probably of money later on in her
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life, after she'd tapped the children, they
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she went more than once, I think,
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to bad Noihan in
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Germany for again for wat cures.
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So she had always had the scietica
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and I cannot imagine how painful
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her pregnancies must have been suffering
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from sciatic pain and carrying
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you know, ten eleven pound babies to
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term. She must have been
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dreadfully consumed by pain
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at times, and she was often had
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to be lying down. She genuinely had
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terrible ear infections and me
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grains, and oh gosh, there
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wasn't almost any complaints she
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didn't at sometime suffer from.
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So that kind of colored
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family life, I think more than
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perhaps we realize. Even
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when they weren't traveling for treatment, abandoning
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the pressure of court, life in Russia was
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itself an enormous relief, and
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there's perhaps no trip that the Empress liked
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better than a holiday to the islands around Finland
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in the Tsar's personal Yat when
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life in Russia got tense or threat
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to the Czar made their routines dangerous,
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Nicholas and Alexander would take to the water.
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They're surrounded by a loyal crew,
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with warships from the Imperial Fleet
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bobbing in formation on all sides.
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Nicholas and Alexandra felt their most
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carefree, prying eyes were left
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far behind. The naval officers who
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served them on board were kind and obliging,
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and all the guns pointed outward. But
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even those floating fantasies came back
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to earth, and when they did, the troubles of
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Russia proved they couldn't be left behind.
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Take their visit to England in nineteen
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o nine. Along the way, the Romanovs
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stopped to see Alexandra's sister Irene
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and made an appearance for the President of France.
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And then they were on towards England, where their royal
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cousins were eager to greet them.
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Not so the English people, though,
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you see, word had spread of the fact that Nicholas
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used his Cossacks against the Russian people
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in nineteen o five. The violence
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of his autocratic control over the Russian
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Empire was no secrets. Socialist
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rallies in London were held as the Romanov's
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yacht sailed toward British soil. The Young
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British Labor Party collected resolutions
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from a cross Britain condemning the blood
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on the hands of the Czar, the terrorism
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of his supporters like Iliador, and
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the actions of the Russian secret police.
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And it should be pointed out if we remember
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the way the Czar's Cossacks ran down protesting
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workers in nineteen o five. We have
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to say the British workers who rallied in
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Trafalgar Square had a point. Maybe
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that's why everyone from schools to evangelical
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societies to trade unions all
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signed on to condemn the Romanov's visit.
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Nicholas may have been surprised by how
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well British radicals knew the inner
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workings of Russian politics, but
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the creeping fear he felt when he heard they were
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discussing his assassination would have
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been all too familiar. It was the
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feeling he fled when the family took to
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the sea, so Nicholas and Alexandra
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made their visit a short one. The coastal
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towns were flooded with English and Russian
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police, who choked them to a standstill.
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It could have only confirmed to the Czar's critics
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that Russia was ruled with an iron fist.
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At night, the romanov was retreated
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to their floating fortress. When they visited
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Sweden, Nicholas and Alexandra didn't
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even dare to set foot on land. So
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the imperial family didn't have the best
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reputation beyond the borders of their empire,
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let alone among the people they held under
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their power at the time, and that
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was all before the press sank
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their teeth into the story of
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Grigory Rasputin. Resputant
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had his defenders, of course, and maybe
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no one was more energetic in his defense
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than the mad monk himself, the terrorist
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preacher Eliodor. Not to be
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outdone by the inflamed accusations
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of the newspaper, Eliodor began
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to fabricate some stories of his own. Resputin
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was not a sexual predator, said Eliodor,
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so much the opposite, in fact, that Gregory
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had mastered his sexual urges so
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much that he no longer made love to his own wife.
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He lived with special holiness. He
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was Russia's saving grace. Anyone
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who wrote attacks against Resputant should
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be bound and beaten bloody, that
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was Eliador's message. Not a
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pleasant fellow, really, But
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Eliodora's bloodthirsty defenses of Resputin
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were nearly as effective as Resputant's
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own technique to disappear.
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Throughout most of nineteen ten, there were several
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points where even the Russian secret police,
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the Okrana, had no idea
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where Resputant was. His
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disappearance was all about giving the scandal
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time to blow over and for newspapers
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to find something else to blow up about. And
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there was one man in Russia willing to oblige.
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That's right, Eliodor himself.
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Do you remember how I told you that Resputant
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had orchestrated a one on one meeting
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between Eliador and the Empress. She
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had forced a few promises out of the man.
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Maybe he agreed in the moment, but he swiftly
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changed his mind. Soon enough, he was
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back in his pulpit, letting fly against
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the Czar, the government of the Duma,
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the Prime Minister, and just about everyone else
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he considered a part of Russia's decline,
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and that included leaders in the church. Now,
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obviously they didn't take too kindly to that, and
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they sent an order. The monk Iliodor
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was being reassigned once again. This
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time he was supposed to leave his base in the
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city of Tzaritsin and go where he couldn't
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make so much trouble, the remote monastery
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of Novozil. But leaving his
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influential position on the banks of the Volga
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River was the last thing Eliador wanted
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to do. His first course of action
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was a frantic message to Siberia
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he was calling on help from Rasputin. Of course,
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after all, Grigory had been able to arrange
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a one on one meeting with the Empress the last
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time he got in trouble. Why couldn't he
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use the same get out of jail free card
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again? And while he waited for an answer,
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he took some action. Gathering his closest
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disciples around him, Eliodor retreated
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into his monastery compound and barricaded
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the doors. Douglas Smith writes
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that Iliador even started blasting
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out messages in his typical bombastic
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style that he wouldn't leave unless
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every of the monastery was covered
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in his own blood, that he would
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see his home become his grave before
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he would be sidelined by the church, you
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know, the usual stuff. Now,
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we don't know if Rasputin was involved in what
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happened next, but it's clear that the news
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made its way to Nicholas and the Tsar
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was having none of it. Naturally,
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he sided with the leaders of the Russian Church.
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They should do what they needed to do to tamp down
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this violent dissenter. After all, it's
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not like Eliador had been cultivating goodwill
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with anyone among Russia's elite. All
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this back and forth made its way
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into black and white. Soon enough, the
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papers were saying that Eliador had
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rallied his terrorist followers to his cause.
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And it wasn't a small movement either. By
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one reckoning, thousands of people had
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traveled the Volga to gather around Iliador.
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It looked more and more like a fight was brewing.
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The twists and turns and the story were complex.
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It was a story of espionage, secret
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agents, and back room deals. To
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sum it up simply, though, a plex
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bargaining process began. While Nicholas
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sent negotiators to hash out the situation
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with Iliador, Rasputin rushed
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back into the Romanov's lives once again
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to discuss things with them behind the scenes.
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The situation was explosive. Realizing
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that Grigory was out of hiding, the Prime Minister
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met with Nicholas. He wanted to convince
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the Czar that Grigory was bad for the throne
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and bad for the empire. He put all
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of Russia at risk. Nicholas,
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though, wasn't convinced. He essentially
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met the Prime Minister with a shrug and
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he said, why don't you just meet with Rasputin
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yourself? So finally,
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after months of ducking the secret police, Nicholas
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had to arrange it. Grigory met
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face to face with Prime ministers Stoi
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Leepin and Stoi Lepin,
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came armed for the encounter. When they
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faced off, he showed Grigory a file
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packed with reports from the Russian secret
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police. He said they proved that Rasputant
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was a heretic who had betrayed the Russian
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Church. Stoy Leepin believed that by
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threatening Grigory he could get the man to
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back down and disappear from the
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Imperial Court, but he didn't know
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just how much Resputant believed that he
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was on a mission from God. Grigory
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dared Soy Leapin to show the file not
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to Nicholas, but to Alexandra, and
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then when they went their separate ways, Gregory
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wasted no time. He told the Empress
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about the police reports himself. All
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that the Prime Minister earned from the encounter was
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Alexander's fury raspute,
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and was right. The Romanovs were
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on his side. This
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swirl of activity around the Romanovs did
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nothing to shake Iliador from his fortified
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monastery. The mad monk was still
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sending Rasputin messages asking for
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help and lane plans to grow
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his power. At one point he even
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pretended to cooperate for a while and
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took to the road, but in the end it was only
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just buying time for him to gather more die
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hard believers to his cause. He
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circled back to his headquarters with even more
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supporters in tow In fact, he had
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gathered an army men and
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women had marched to his fortress by the
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tens of thousands, all of them
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hung on Iliador's every word as
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he called for the new representative government of
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Russia to be torn down in a shower
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of blood, and for people like Prime
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Minister Stoilepen to be beaten in the
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streets. And even as it got more and more
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hypocritical, Eliador and his followers
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still held onto the idea that all of this
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was actually helping the Czar. It
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was, as Dr Heather Coleman puts it,
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a naive monarchism.
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Historians have pointed to a
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great phenomenon of naive
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monarchism of of ordinary
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people who who believed
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that the that the government
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um was the problem
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and if only they could get to the Tsar,
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that Ssar was was faithful
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to the to the to the to the
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little guy and um,
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and that you know. The problem was the bureaucrats
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in between. As these ideas
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grew more powerful and il Door added
18:00
to his numbers, Nicholas had a choice
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to make turn the full might of his
18:04
imperial forces on rebellious monarchists
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or give them free reign to undermine
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his government. The choice he made
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was a fateful one, because in the end
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Nicholas backed down. He issued
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a full pardon for Eliador. The
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mad monk had gone up against the Czar and
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one, but that victory sowed
18:23
the seeds of his own downfall. In beating
18:25
the Tsar, these self defeating monarchists
18:28
proved once again that the Czar could
18:30
be beaten. This very public
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battle between the Tsar and the terrorist
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preacher had distracted the press from
18:37
the story of Rasputin, but it hadn't
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distracted the rest of the Romanov family. Knowing
18:41
that meetings with Grigory had happened behind
18:44
the scenes, the other Romanovs believed
18:46
that Resputant was really the one behind Nicholas's
18:48
decision to fold in the face of Eliadora's
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growing forces. So at one point
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Nicholas's mother, the Dowager Empress,
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decided it was time to take her son in hand.
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She met with Nicholas and al Alexandra in the
19:00
palace. She gave her boy a good
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tongue lashing. She demanded that Nicholas
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and the scandal sever the friendship
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and send respute in away. Alexandra
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fought fire with fire. As the Czarina,
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she refused to be pushed around by her mother
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in law no matter what anyone thought, and
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in the end the Dowager Empress
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left defeated. Throughout
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the fight with his mother and wife trading
19:24
ferocious arguments, Nicholas,
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it said, sat in silence.
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He put Russia behind him. After
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all, it was true, the scandal did need time
19:41
to blow over. So Grigory Rasputin
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set out to the one place he always wanted to
19:45
go. He wanted to refresh his soul,
19:47
to commune with God, so he went
19:50
to the Holy Land. But if that conjures
19:53
up stories of Grigory's early religious
19:55
life, of his wanderings and his lonely
19:57
struggles on the road, that might give us
19:59
the idea, because this wasn't quite
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the kind of lonely pilgrimage to Jerusalem
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that a holy man might make on a shoestring
20:06
and a prayer. Quite the contrary,
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Resputant was doing something popular.
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It turns out that the trip sounds a lot like the kind
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of Holy Land tourism that people are still
20:16
doing today. Here's historian Douglas
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Smith to explain. It's
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not as exotic maybe as it first
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seems that, you know, a Russian in nineteen
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eleven would be going to the Holy Land. There
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were actually packaged tours that
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Russians would go on that would
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take them to see the places
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connected to the life of Jesus.
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And this is essentially what he did as he went
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on one one of these package tours,
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if you will. But he was profoundly
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moved by the experience, and he wrote
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about it, and he sent letters back to Nicholas
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and Alexandra about the meaning
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it had for him. One of the things
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that he came back with was a
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renewed um conviction
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that the only true form of Christianity
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was Russian orthod docsy. That
21:01
was just the kind of message that would be welcomed
21:03
with opened arms by friends that Rasputant
21:06
had left behind, and he made a bee
21:08
line for none other than Iliador
21:11
awash in the glow of victory, the mad monk
21:13
welcomed Grigory to his monastery on
21:15
the Volga, and they hit the road as a
21:17
kind of double act. Soon enough,
21:19
they were trailed by supporters as they went from
21:22
town to town together. The documents
21:24
tell us that sometimes it was dozens
21:26
and sometimes it was hundreds of women who followed
21:29
in their wake. Iliodor introduced
21:31
Rasputin as his beloved brother. For
21:33
his part, Grigory recounts his adventures
21:36
in Palestine in a particularly nationalistic
21:38
mode. Here's more from Douglas Smith.
21:41
He had nothing but horrible things to say
21:44
about the other branches of the Christian
21:46
faith. And he came to believe that
21:49
pilgrimage to the Holy Lands
21:52
should be encouraged among
21:54
Russian society as a way
21:56
of instilling greater faith in the Church,
21:59
and by extension, and by instilling greater
22:01
faith and loyalty among Russian
22:05
Orthodox believers and subjects
22:08
of the Crown in the
22:10
sanctity of the throne
22:12
itself. That this was a way you could
22:14
further bind Russians
22:16
to the autocracy, was through
22:19
these trips to the Holy Land. And
22:21
and he would come back and
22:23
speak about his experiences
22:26
there, and this definitely
22:29
sort of gave him a greater sense of
22:31
religious authority in the eyes
22:33
of his believers. When
22:35
they ended their speaking tour back at Eliodor's
22:38
monastery, the monk gave rasput
22:40
And a lavish send off. It seemed
22:42
to Grigory that their friendship was secure
22:44
and that he had made a successful return to
22:46
Russian society. Maybe he
22:48
even believed that the bad press and the bad
22:51
days were behind him. He was
22:53
friends with Eliodor and friends
22:55
with the Czar. What could go wrong. But
22:58
if he only saw smooth sailing ahead,
23:00
then he hadn't been paying attention to the way that
23:02
Eliador treated his friends,
23:04
So it seems Gregory didn't have his guard
23:07
up. A few months later, when he arrived in St.
23:09
Petersburg, he heard that Eliodora
23:11
was also in the capital, purchasing a printing
23:13
press for his monastery. Eliodor
23:16
invited Grigory to travel with him to meet
23:18
with a member of the Holy Synod, their
23:20
supporter, germy Jin. Naturally,
23:22
Rasputin agreed, but he was walking
23:24
into a trap. When the pair arrived,
23:27
they found that germy Jan was not alone. As
23:29
they stepped into the room, Gregory realized
23:31
that he was also faced by two other men, a
23:34
Cossack officer who was one of Eliodora's
23:36
violent monarchist allies, and
23:38
another man, Mitya, who
23:40
Gregory knew well. In fact, Resputin
23:43
and Mitya had spent quite a lot of time together.
23:45
They were fellow mystics, fellow holy
23:48
fools in the eyes of many, and had been
23:50
friends for long enough to know that they hated
23:52
each other. So when he stepped
23:55
into the room with them, Gregory finally
23:57
realized what he was in for. He tried
23:59
to reach tread out the door, but they grabbed him
24:01
and forced him into a chair, and they
24:04
laid into him. If the Prime Minister
24:06
had tried to make Resputant back down by
24:08
threatening him with a few documents, this
24:10
crew took a more direct, more
24:12
violent approach. As Iliodor
24:14
would later tell the story, they took turns screaming
24:17
and Rasputant's face about his sins. He
24:20
had deceived them, he had fooled everyone.
24:22
He was an impostor, a hypocrite,
24:25
and a predator, and now he deserved
24:27
to be condemned. Resputant tried
24:29
to answer back, but this wasn't a conversation.
24:32
Germy Jan, dressed in his priestly robes,
24:35
grabbed Resputant by the head. In
24:37
his other hand he held a gold cross
24:40
and he smashed it down on Resputin.
24:42
He called him a devil. He hit Grigory
24:45
again and commanded that he never again
24:47
entered the Imperial Palace. Another
24:49
blow fell, and he forbade Grigory
24:51
to ever meet with the Empress, and the
24:53
beating went on. It's
24:56
a dramatic story. Eliodor
24:58
said that Resputant left the room that night, shaking,
25:00
pale and covered in blood, promising
25:03
that he would never enter the Romanov's palace
25:05
again. He kissed an icon pressed
25:07
on him by German Jin to seal the promise,
25:10
and dragged himself out into the night. The
25:13
Cossack officer remembered it a bit differently.
25:15
He told other government officials that Resputant
25:17
had fought all three of them before overpowering
25:20
them and escaping into the street, swearing
25:22
revenge. Whether it went
25:24
one way or the other, one thing
25:26
is clear. In an instant, Eliador
25:29
and Resputant had gone from allies to enemies.
25:31
Iliodor was hot off the heels of his very
25:34
public victory. He knew he was on
25:36
the rise, and he felt untouchable
25:38
all along. To this point, Rasputin
25:41
had been the one standing between him and the Romanovs.
25:44
It seems the Iliador thought he could finally do
25:46
away with Grigory and step into his place.
25:49
And powerful men in the church, like German
25:51
Jin, saw Rasputin as a stain
25:53
on their religion. They were only too happy
25:56
to turn Eliodor against his fellow preacher.
25:58
But if they had been able to turn the tables on the Tzar,
26:01
they found that Resputant would be a tougher target.
26:04
In fact, their attack on Gregory backfired.
26:08
Just a month later, German Jin got
26:10
news he was being stripped of his
26:12
position in the church after being
26:14
booted from the Holy Synod. He was exiled
26:17
from the capital, and of course he had
26:19
been Eliodor's strongest ally.
26:21
With him gone, the other members of the Holy
26:23
Synod came for the terrorist preacher. Exile
26:26
orders came down, and so did the command
26:28
that he was no longer a monk. Iliodor
26:31
was defrocked. On the way out the door,
26:34
both men pointed their fingers at Grigory.
26:36
All of this was retaliation for their
26:39
attack on him.
26:41
It's more likely that their battle with the Czar
26:43
and the Church, the battle they thought they
26:45
won, was finally catching up with them.
26:48
But regardless, they had no trouble blaming
26:50
their defeat on Resputin, and
26:52
in his fury at having the tables turned
26:54
on him so severely, Eliador
26:56
decided to make his final play. He
26:59
would unleash the weapon he had kept under
27:01
wraps and finally drive a wedge
27:03
between Resputant and the Czar.
27:11
The letters were stolen. They had
27:13
been prized possessions, after all, they came
27:15
from the Empress, along with the shirt that
27:18
she had sewn for him. It was her letters
27:20
that had the most meaning for Gregory. In
27:23
them, she poured out her prayers, her fears
27:26
and her joys, the struggles of her chronic
27:28
pain, the uncertainty of life
27:30
in the Russian court. It was all
27:32
stitched together in the messages that she would
27:34
send to her personal friend and spiritual
27:36
adviser at his home in Siberia,
27:39
built with the money given to him by his many
27:41
followers. Grigory gave these gifts
27:44
from the Empress a place of pride, and,
27:46
by some accounts, in a moment of weakness or
27:48
arrogance, he would take them out of his desk
27:50
and show them off, like the time
27:52
in nineteen o nine when his friend
27:55
Iliador visited him in Pokrovsko.
27:58
It was just after the first time that Rasputin
28:00
had arranged for Eliador to meet with the Empress.
28:03
With the fires of conflict burning low,
28:05
Grigory had invited Iliador out
28:07
to his home in Siberia to retreat and
28:10
think over what came next. The precise
28:12
details of the visit are unclear, and the only
28:14
person to describe what happened is Iliodor.
28:17
Knowing the way he later turned on Rasputin.
28:19
He's far from a reliable source, but
28:22
he describes the trip to Siberia as
28:24
a revealing one. He says that as they traveled
28:27
into Grigory's hometown, Rasputin told
28:29
him wild stories of his degenerate youth
28:31
and boasted constantly of his close ties
28:34
with the royal family. He bragged
28:36
that his influence went beyond the spiritual.
28:38
They consulted with him about faith and
28:40
love, yes, but also about the Duma,
28:43
the ministers, the government, the future
28:45
of Russia. Eliodor writes that Rasputant
28:48
got so boastful in his claims that he even
28:50
said that Nicholas and Alexandra had bowed
28:52
at his feet, and that the Czar could
28:55
not even breathe without him.
28:57
Now we have to take all of that with the grainess
29:00
alt Iliodor wrote it down after
29:02
he and Rasputin had become enemies. But
29:04
what does seem to be true is that at some point
29:07
on their visit, Rasputin showed Iliador
29:09
the letters. Some were from Alexandra,
29:12
some were from the Romanov children, and
29:14
there were notes from other important people there
29:16
too. And somehow, when
29:18
Iliodor left Pakrosco, some of
29:20
Rasputin's letters went with him,
29:23
and a few years later Eliador's change
29:25
of heart about Grigory made them a powerful
29:27
tool. Here's Douglas Smith to
29:29
describe what happened next. Alexandra
29:32
wrote to Rasputin at a moment
29:35
of extreme grief and sadness
29:37
and emotional distress, and which she talks
29:39
about, You know, I'm only able
29:41
to, you know, feel at peace and at ease when
29:43
i can rest my head on your shoulder, when
29:46
I'm in your presence, when
29:48
I feel your warmth around me. And
29:51
Eliador basically held
29:53
on to this letter as as
29:55
as a weapon to use against Resputin when
29:57
the time came, and he did
29:59
just that. Copies of the letter were
30:02
made, they spread throughout society,
30:05
and it became the basis of this notion
30:08
that there was a sexual relationship between
30:10
Resputin and the Empress. There never
30:12
was any such relationship.
30:15
But again, this information
30:17
was brought before for Nicholas,
30:20
and he was presented with the
30:22
actual letter, and he said, yes, this is Alexandra's
30:25
handwriting, took the letter, put it in his destroyer
30:28
and basically said, we will not speak of these
30:30
matters further. But
30:40
the letter and its implications didn't
30:42
stop with Nicholas. It reached the aristocratic
30:44
salons, where rumors from palace maids
30:47
had prepared the way for the worst interpretations
30:49
of the letter to take hold, and it reached
30:51
members of the Duma, the Russian parliament,
30:54
where politicians who opposed the Czar saw
30:56
the opportunity to revive the outcry
30:58
against Rasputin as a way of weakening
31:01
the already weak Romanovs.
31:03
So once again, the truth behind the letters
31:05
almost didn't matter. What mattered was
31:07
that it seemed to confirm the worst suspicions
31:10
that were already in the air, and when it
31:12
came to Alexander's private life. There
31:14
were plenty of unanswered questions and
31:16
court resentments that fed the flame. After
31:19
all, Alexander had become a mysterious
31:21
figure in Russian society.
31:23
To the people around her, she seemed secretive
31:26
and conniving, and in fact, she seemed
31:28
to line up perfectly with their suspicions
31:30
of people from outside Russia who took up
31:33
positions of power there. Apparently
31:35
none of these malicious prejudices had gone
31:37
away. Of course, looking back,
31:40
we now know that at least part of why Alexandra
31:42
often retreated from company in the Russian court
31:44
was because she was in chronic pain and
31:47
suffered through the illnesses that she dealt
31:49
with year after year. We
31:51
would hope for a little more generosity and
31:53
a little more mercy from people living through
31:55
the things she suffered, but there was none
31:57
of that in Imperial Russia. Here's
32:00
Ellen rappaport to say a bit more time
32:03
and again, I you know, I saw letters
32:05
and comments or diaries from
32:07
the girls or members of court. Oh, you know,
32:09
the family would do to go to the theater
32:11
or to something, and Alexandra
32:14
would either drop out or go home early
32:16
because she wasn't feeling well, and
32:19
she was all the always the party pooper,
32:22
you know, the one who you
32:24
know was indisposed. And
32:26
so time again you see Nicholas
32:29
taking his girls to the ballet or
32:31
to the opera without their mother, and
32:34
Alexandra just wasn't a present
32:36
socially at all. Alexandra,
32:39
time and time again the girls would say
32:41
a little note so in their diaries,
32:44
Oh, mother couldn't come down to lunch because
32:46
she had a headache and she wasn't feeling very
32:48
well. So much of the Empress's
32:50
private life was hidden from the eyes of even
32:52
those nearby. In Iliadora's
32:55
poisonous insinuations added to the rumors
32:58
that filled in the blanks of it was
33:00
a weapon that didn't just strike Resputing,
33:02
even as Nicholas tried to blunt its edge,
33:05
It hit Alexandra too. It
33:07
becomes part of the basis for
33:09
the myth that not only
33:12
is Resputing offering spiritual
33:15
sucker emotional comfort, but
33:17
that in fact he's engaged in a sexual relationship
33:19
with the Empress, which then later grows metastasizes
33:23
to the point that he's also sleeping with
33:25
the daughters of Alexandra. In fact,
33:27
even gets one of them pregnant,
33:30
and that there's talk that Alex Say, the
33:32
heir to the throne, is in fact
33:35
the bastard child of Resputing, and
33:37
all the stuff just gets more outlandish and
33:39
crazier as the years progress. And
33:41
for someone like her who preferred to keep
33:43
her private life private, the lies
33:46
were monstrous, They
33:48
were appalling, and they were absolutely
33:51
crucially damaging, because
33:54
not only within Russia was she hurried,
33:57
prided and demonized and
33:59
feet should in ugly sexual
34:02
cartoons with rasput
34:04
and some of them quite pornographic. In fact,
34:07
these were in circulation in Russia, but
34:09
of course this spread across the Western
34:11
press in Britain and America.
34:14
The gossip was appalling, you know,
34:16
the talk that they were having a sexual relationship
34:19
was utterly absurd, and when
34:21
people ask me about it, I'll say, I'm just not going
34:23
there because it's so ridiculous.
34:26
But the trouble is all that scandal
34:28
and gossip, and it was absolutely fetid
34:32
based on the third fourth
34:34
hand gossip and rumor and
34:36
innuendo. There was not a
34:39
grain of truth in any of it, but of
34:41
course that kind of mudge if
34:43
there's enough of it sticks in the end.
34:46
The letter it was taken as an admission of guilt.
34:49
The fiction was taken as fact. It was
34:51
undoubtedly false, but it unleashed a flood
34:53
of anger and fury against the Romanovs
34:56
and against Rasputin. It became
34:58
the enduring thing that people remember umber about
35:00
Grigory rest Sputin embedded right
35:02
in the lyrics of the bony m song of
35:04
his name, that he was the lover of the Russian
35:07
Queen. The Romanovs did what they could
35:09
to answer the lie. They tried to claw
35:11
back Alexander's reputation, but
35:13
Eliodora's partying shot had struck home.
35:16
The mad monk went on the run. He
35:19
disappeared into the shadows, off the stage
35:21
for a time, and yet the
35:23
damage was done. Shots
35:31
rang out. It was intermission at
35:33
the opera house. Nicholas had taken two
35:35
of his daughter's Olga and Tatiana,
35:37
to see the Tale of the Czar Sultan. But
35:40
he wasn't the only one. A revolutionary
35:43
anarchist had come with murder on his mind.
35:45
He meant to change the shape of the Russian Empire
35:48
with his revolver at close range, and
35:50
he did it too. The bullets struck home
35:53
and killed the prime minister stoy
35:55
Leapin. Nicholas later
35:57
remembered that stoy Leapin had turned and made
36:00
a sign of the cross in the air. As he grew pale,
36:02
blood was smeared on the right arm of his jacket.
36:05
It took four days for the Tsar's right hand
36:07
man to die. This
36:09
was one more active violence that was laid
36:11
at Restputant's feet. The papers wondered
36:13
whether Grigory had somehow been part of the plot
36:16
of the assassination. It was pure
36:18
fabrication, But what tragedies
36:20
weren't being blamed on the holy man from
36:22
Siberia. Nicholas
36:24
was spurred into action. Things were spiraling
36:26
out of control, so he threw caution
36:29
to the wind. As publishers
36:31
spun up the presses to run articles and
36:33
booklets on the mystical sex maniacs
36:35
supporting the Empress, Nicholas did
36:37
everything he could to reverse the concessions
36:39
he had made in nineteen o five. In
36:41
his eyes, the freedom of the press wasn't working.
36:44
The attempts he made to allow for representative
36:46
government were falling short. His Empress
36:49
was being derided, his ministers murdered,
36:51
and even monarchists were fighting against
36:54
him. It was time to reassert his
36:56
god given authority. It was time
36:58
for violence. The Moscow
37:00
branch of the Okrana rated the printing office
37:02
where a book against Resputant was being printed.
37:05
They smashed the presses, seized the books,
37:08
and shut down the operation. The
37:10
author, with his original manuscript tucked
37:12
away, went on the run. A
37:15
message was sent to the governor of the city, silenced
37:18
every mention of Restputan, not
37:20
the barest whisper was allowed to reach the page.
37:23
With the secret police rampaging throughout
37:25
the city, the governor agreed. Over
37:27
the course of the next few months, stories
37:29
about Resputant brought on harsh reprisals,
37:33
but the voices of Russian writers had been
37:35
set free by the edicts of nineteen o five,
37:38
and it was far too late to cage them back up
37:40
again. Publishers, determined to
37:42
hold onto their new found freedoms, continued
37:44
to print stories about Resputin, and
37:47
the more the Tsar's forces attempted to silence
37:49
those stories, the more certain the
37:51
people became grigory. Resputin,
37:54
the devil of lust, had his
37:56
grip on the Russian throne.
38:00
That's it for this week's episode of
38:03
Unobscured. Stick around after
38:05
this short sponsor break for a preview
38:07
of what's in store for next week. The
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throne was in danger, the
38:16
Church was in danger, the very state
38:18
of Russia itself. No revolutionary
38:21
or foreign missionary had done what rest
38:23
Sputin had done. The Imperial
38:25
family was stained. A vestige
38:27
of the dark Ages had risen up and taken
38:30
the Czar of Russia into his hands. That
38:33
was the message that thundered out into the Russian
38:35
parliament, the Duma, on March
38:37
eighth of nineteen twelve. The speaker,
38:40
Alexander Gukov, was a politician
38:42
who had been working to reform the Russian government
38:44
since the Revolution of nineteen o five. Now
38:47
he was taking direct aim at the Czar,
38:50
and Nicholas took it personally. After
38:52
all, this speech was in open defiance
38:54
of his power, and in a time when the press
38:57
and the Church and even the supporters of
38:59
the Empire had gone against the crown, this
39:02
was a new low. Unobscured
39:16
was created by me Aaron Manky and
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produced by Matt Frederick, Alex Williams,
39:21
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39:25
Sam Alberty, writing by Carl
39:27
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39:30
Lawson. Learn more about our contributing
39:32
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