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I watched the Barbie movie, guys. It
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Donald Trump is due back in court today. And
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he's expected to plead not guilty to charges
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that he conspired to overturn the 2020
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election.
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He had every right to advocate
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for a position that he believed in. Jaime
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Martinez with Leila Fadal and this is Up
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First from NPR News.
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When it comes to climate change, the science is
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settled. Our summers are record hot and
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they're going to get hotter. New polling from NPR
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shows that's a top concern for most
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people with one exception, Republicans.
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And Russia is increasingly using
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food as a weapon of war. After
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Moscow pulled out of a vital grain deal,
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it attacked a port in Ukraine damaging 40,000
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tons of grain destined for countries around the
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world. What does that mean for global food
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President Donald Trump is returning to the nation's
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capital today. He's set to appear before
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a federal judge on new criminal charges
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related to January 6th.
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Trump faces four new felony
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counts stemming from his efforts to hold on to
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power after the 2020 election. At the same
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time, he's running for president.
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And PR White House correspondent Franco Ordonez
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is here to talk about how he's trying to
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balance those objectives and to
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pay for them. Good morning, Franco. Good morning, Leila. So
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what do we expect to happen in court today?
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Well, Trump's being charged with four crimes,
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including leading a conspiracy to defraud the U.S.
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and obstructing an official proceeding. He's
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expected to plead not guilty to all of them.
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His lawyer, John Loro, talked to
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our own Sasha Pfeiffer on all things considered
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yesterday. And he says that Trump is
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protected by the First Amendment and that
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the Justice Department is trying to criminalize free
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speech. It's a very straightforward defense
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that he had every right to advocate
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for a position that he believed in and his
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supporters believed in. Of course, Leila,
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prosecutors paint a much different picture.
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In the 45-page indictment, they say
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Trump can advocate for his position. They say
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he can even lie about the results. But
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they say he can't use the tools of government
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and enlist co-conspirators to try
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and prevent a core function of democracy. That's
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the peaceful transfer of power.
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In his case against Trump is
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one of many, and defending himself
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can't be cheap. How is Trump paying
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all his lawyers while also funding
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an expensive presidential campaign?
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Yeah, it's all tangled together, and
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defending these cases has been a
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drag on the campaign. I
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mean, Trump's leadership committee has spent more than $40
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million on legal costs just this
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year, according to The Washington Post. But
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he's making a lot of money as well.
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The campaign uses these challenges
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to really flood the inboxes of supporters
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to help fund the defense. And we've
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seen the numbers, and it's been pretty fruitful.
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fruitful to his finances, he's making
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money off it, but what about to his campaign? What's his
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messaging on this, his third criminal indictment?
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Well, it's kind of just all added to the
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mix. I mean, Trump points to the charges
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to push his claims. He's a political victim.
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He's been on social media even this
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morning tweeting about free speech, and
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I'm sure he'll bring it up in Alabama and
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South Carolina where he's expected to speak
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later this week. Laila, one popular
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line that he likes to repeat, and I bet we'll hear
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it soon, is that federal prosecutors are not
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coming after him, they're coming after you. He means
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the voters, of course, and that he's standing
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in the way, and it's a line that often gets
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a lot of applause.
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You know, his rivals
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have been reticent to speak against
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him, some even defending him, but we did hear
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from former Vice President Mike Pence. Has
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this indictment changed those dynamics now?
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Yeah, we did hear some of the sharpest language
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yet from Pence yesterday. President
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Trump asked me to put him over the Constitution,
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but I chose the Constitution, and I
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always will. I really do
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believe that anyone
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who puts himself over the Constitution should never be
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president of the United States. It's interesting
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because Pence has been resistant to speak
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out against Trump, and most of his rivals
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continue to be, and that's because of Trump's
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popularity with the Republican base. Both
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Governor Ron DeSantis and Senate Senator
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Tim Scott, for example, they accused
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the Biden administration of weaponizing government.
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So it's gonna be interesting to see whether
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Pence benefits from the tough talk or is
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politically hurt by it.
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White House correspondent Franco Ordonez,
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thank you, Franco. Thanks, Leila.
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July was the hottest month ever
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recorded on planet Earth. Now those record
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high temperatures are fueled by climate change,
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and scientists say it's only gonna get
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hotter. That is, unless leaders
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of the world's most powerful countries step up to
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curb emissions, but for the most part
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they're not. And in the U.S.
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The new NPR PBS NewsHour
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Marist Poll shows that it's largely because
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one political party is turning away
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from the climate crisis.
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Joining us now to talk about that and more
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in this latest survey is NPR senior
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political editor and correspondent Domenico
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Montanaro. Hi Domenico. Hey, thanks
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for having me. All right, so let's get to climate change and the party
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we're talking about, Republicans. What
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did Republicans we talk to say about
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the climate crisis? Well, we asked people
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a few questions about climate change, including
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one that I think is really key for why so
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little is getting done in Congress to address the
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problem. That's exploring this tension between
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climate change and the economy. Now, climate
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change is costing the country and the world billions
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of dollars in disaster funding and preparation,
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but Republican messaging to their base has
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been about the potential short term cost
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of climate change. So we asked if
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priority should be given to climate change,
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even at the risk of slowing the economy, or
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to the economy, even if it means ignoring
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climate change. The results really were eye opening,
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I thought. Overall, a majority of people
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said climate change should be the priority,
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including a majority of independents. But
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here's the rub. Three quarters of Republicans
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said the opposite. In fact, as the days
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have gotten hotter, Republicans have only increased
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in feeling this way, up 13 points in
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the last five years. A lot of that
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could be attributed to the way former President
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Trump speaks about the climate crisis, the leader
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of the Republican Party over the last several years. The
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science has settled, the evidence is clear,
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but he's downplayed its effects, and we've seen
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that base that loves him so much seem
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to really lap up everything he's had to say.
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But I mean, like you said, the science
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is settled. Don't most people see climate
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change as a major threat, not just to the country,
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but to the world we live in?
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Yeah, I mean, most people do, but only
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a small minority of Republicans do, and you need
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Republicans and Democrats to be able to agree
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on something to get something done. 70% of
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Republicans in our poll said that climate change
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is either just a minor threat or no
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threat at all. Overall, majorities
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of respondents also said climate change is
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having a serious impact. impact, and having at least
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some effect on their communities now. But 80%
8:03
of Republicans said climate change
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will in the future only have a minor
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impact or in their communities, none
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at all. The only potential glimmer
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for climate change action here is that
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younger people are more likely to say
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that they see climate change as a major threat.
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Okay, so this was a fairly wide-ranging
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poll beyond just climate change, and it dealt
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with how people also view institutions in this
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country, like Congress, where these climate laws
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would be made. What did it find?
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Yeah, I mean, institutions are really suffering right
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now. I mean, Congress has among the lowest
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ratings we've ever tested. Just 22% said
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they have some confidence in Congress. The Supreme
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Court continues to get poor ratings. Even
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the FBI, which had been so vaunted for so
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long, has become really split with people
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with Republicans not trusting it, Democrats
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trusting it. And we've seen that there's been
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all these indictments of former President Trump, and it's really
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been in the middle of all of our politics.
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And we have a presidential election coming
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up. What about politics? How are people
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viewing the parties and President Biden?
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Yeah, I mean, people don't like either party, you
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know? And President Biden is getting really middling
9:06
approval ratings, just a 41% approval
9:08
rating. Somebody's got to win in 2024, even though
9:12
people don't seem to like President Biden or
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former President Trump. This spells a lot of volatility,
9:16
and we shouldn't be surprised by any surprises that
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come forward in the 2024 election. Hmm.
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And Piers Domenico Montanaro, thank
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you so much. You're so welcome.
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Ukraine is struggling to find a way
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to export its grain as Russia repeatedly
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strikes its ports. Drones and missiles
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have hit Ukrainian ports on the Black Sea
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for the last couple of weeks, ever since Moscow
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withdrew from a deal safeguarding ships
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carrying Ukrainian grain exports to world
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markets. And Russia is now
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targeting a main alternative route
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for that grain at Ukraine's ports on
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the Danube River.
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Joining us now from Kiv to talk about
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this is NPR's Joanna Kaczko. Hi
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Joanna. Hi Leila. So tell
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us about these ports on the Danube River. How
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important have they become to Ukraine's exports?
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Well, you know, since Russia
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pulled out of that deal of protecting container
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ships in the Black Sea, the river ports
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of Ismail and Rennie have become essential
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to keeping grain exports moving. These
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ports are located on the lower Danube River
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in the far southwest of Ukraine. The
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Danube is the largest river in the European
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Union. It starts in Germany and runs through
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Eastern Europe and it forms part of Ukraine's
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border with Romania, a member
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of NATO and the European Union. The
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Danube also empties into the Black
10:38
Sea, but in a part of the sea that is very close
10:40
to Romania and of course NATO. And
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so until now it felt more protected than
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other ports on the Black Sea. And
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I should say that before the war, these
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Danube ports were hardly used. They are
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much smaller than the port of Odessa, for example,
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but now they account for at least a third of grain
10:56
exports, according to Ukraine's infrastructure
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ministry. Ukraine is also trying
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to transport grain by rail and
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road, but that's very expensive. And
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what kind of damage have the Russian strikes
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on these river
11:07
ports caused? Well, on Wednesday,
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Russia used drones to hit Ismail,
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which is Ukraine's main inland port.
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It's right across the river from Romania. The drone
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attacks destroyed buildings on the port and
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also stranded ships preparing to load
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with Ukrainian grain. Ukraine's
11:24
infrastructure ministry said that these attacks also
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damaged and destroyed almost 40,000 tons
11:29
of grain that was supposed to be
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going to countries in Africa as well as
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to China and Israel. Global food prices
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shot up and the attacks
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really scared people in the city of Ismail. I
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spoke by phone with Nikolik Popliyenko,
11:44
who lives in Ismail and works at the local
11:46
university. And he said this remote corner
11:48
of Ukraine was largely spared during
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the war. And now it feels almost like a front
11:53
line and a front line just
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across the river from NATO and the EU.
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It's also dangerous for the EU, I
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guess. because sometimes, you know, the
12:01
drone can miss. The territory of Izmir
12:04
port is like 200 meters
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from the territory of the European
12:08
Union.
12:08
In other words, he says an errant
12:10
missile or drone could strike Romania.
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And now you mentioned this 40,000 tons of grain
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that was damaged that was supposed to go to other countries.
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Ukrainian grain is a vital food source for many
12:21
countries, especially in Africa. What
12:23
options does Ukraine have at this point to get
12:26
the grain to countries that need it? So
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Ukraine's leaders are asking their allies
12:30
for more help, like to beef up air
12:32
defense around these Danube ports.
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And Mykola Koplyenko, the Ismail resident
12:37
I spoke to, he said, you know,
12:38
they understand that the Ukrainian military
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may not have the resources now. So
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he says local residents are actually trying
12:45
to crowdsource to help pay for air defense
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equipment. Meanwhile, with
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exports, the alternatives, transporting
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this grain via train or road, that's
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much more expensive and not very efficient. As I mentioned
12:56
earlier, a lot of countries are relying on this
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grain. And Ukraine wants to show
13:00
the world that Russia is using food as a
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weapon in this war. A weapon in this
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war. Joanna Kokic is in Kyiv. Thank
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you, Joanna. You are welcome.
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And that's Up First for Thursday, August 3rd. I'm
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