In this episode we're celebrating pride, remembering that it began as a protest and we must not lose sight of that. Niall is joined by Alex Campbell, a non-binary human who is well known for their stage persona as drag king Phil T. Gorgeous. Alex has been navigating their own identity, particularly over the last number of years, and speaks to Niall about this exploration of self, growing up different in conservative Ireland, the journey our country has been on since the Marriage Equality Referendum, and how far we still have left to go. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices