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you know i don't like this

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is like made may i

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oh i know with tie

5:23

oh and she'll fall and bragman the

5:25

i have fallen pregnant

5:28

all it took was

5:30

hands of thousands of dollars

5:32

and i v f treat men who know

5:35

and months of

5:37

being really uncomfortable

5:39

and my own scared

5:42

are you related

5:45

not gonna get better from here

5:48

the process of the

5:52

that you have to really

5:54

want to be a parent to go through

5:56

this my favorite text

5:58

so far as intended have been please

6:01

remind me if i

6:02

ever want to get pregnant a second time

6:04

that not doing

6:05

no i'm not allowed a mass

6:08

allows you to play in writing this

6:10

time because yeah said similar

6:13

things are you have henceforth

6:15

fallen like gone through with my

6:18

you can never do this again

6:20

i'm so happy

6:23

everyone who has been on up

6:25

fertility journey of like

6:27

i have them will understand

6:30

like i am i feel very lucky

6:32

and privilege that i've gotten pregnant and

6:34

so far so good but this one after

6:36

multiple miscarriages right

6:39

zero added ten would not recommend anyone

6:42

else

6:43

i hate it if horrible a

6:46

and hopefully gonna love my kids

6:50

binder the

6:53

yeah a terrible and yeah

6:58

every time i brush my teeth a thorough

7:01

like violently puke i ever

7:03

kissed and sat myself well puke

7:06

in multiple times out

7:08

, the wall on on a brick

7:10

wall which is really impossible

7:12

to clean the jesus quarter and

7:14

i don't don't and on

7:17

coded brick wall you guys

7:19

i stay up it's some

7:21

it's very real and so also

7:26

behooves me

7:28

the go on a mini rant about are

7:30

fucking supreme court and

7:32

how they are going to

7:34

insulate

7:36

yeah you already this and you wouldn't put

7:38

this on your worse at him

7:40

when was the fact that they are

7:42

going to force oh

7:45

to remain pregnant and gives

7:47

birth is some the

7:49

craziest form of weird

7:51

torture winter possibly imagine

7:54

iran

7:56

i know that we'll talk about it more and read about

7:58

it more and future episodes

8:00

very concerned about that low

8:02

birth count for white got

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an increase

8:06

the domestic supply

8:09

and , in as we have

8:11

no supply of baby

8:13

foreign also you know we're following

8:15

the rational trajectory of this

8:17

sort of legislation than i'm

8:19

sure we're gonna love were at the age

8:22

of which is allowable to adopt

8:24

allowable child

8:25

hurley oh yeah and open adoptions

8:28

to lgbtq yeah

8:30

queer man little and

8:31

well made love

8:35

er yeah they're even

8:38

ryan a call people with certain disability

8:40

adopt days it is ah

8:42

ah and the foster system is

8:44

that we could go on forever

8:47

then we want me well as a liaison

8:50

you're prejudging mm

8:53

i would not wish this on any one

8:55

unless they really really

8:58

wanted

9:00

yeah

9:02

got the middle man

9:04

also i've been faking drinking this

9:06

whole time so don't be like concerned for me

9:08

so i have not been through gag all at

9:11

all for like for my only

9:13

then do and my sentinels

9:15

lowered the glass super i'm honored

9:19

oh no we've that has run and go

9:21

we gotta have it was not ironic

9:23

okay with jay it go because

9:26

that is all i could hold down without

9:29

few games for three months

9:39

the and i wish everybody else out there

9:41

who's dealing with infertility the

9:44

best and it's not easy and maybe

9:47

desk can i one

9:51

favor of yeah oh god

9:53

come october when

9:55

you are plentiful

9:57

last three men sleep alone

10:00

your belly as the jackal lantern

10:03

why would you neither

10:05

my hands up with the most bizarre

10:08

know people do that it's that

10:11

my idea i am now

10:13

a child our on to do that

10:15

not don't see for i've got i

10:17

can do that yeah i always have

10:19

my big do

10:21

i'll i'll do it on my

10:23

ass

10:25

right it's that at at that i'm

10:27

ready anyway i will not

10:29

be doing anything in october besides

10:32

pushing out a baby and complaining about it

10:34

a lot will

10:36

, in the shooting that sides as a

10:40

scam scam can get ahead

10:42

and having ahead crisis and pregnancy scam

10:46

we

10:49

say what the topic was

10:51

we are your thoughts are like like clinton

10:54

i know you reference separated know if we

10:56

like about it said okay okay

10:58

it's a form of weird torture since

11:00

it or just nasas one

11:03

hundred percent of the time oh yeah

11:05

anyway i if you buy any is a wonderland

11:08

whatever let's get to the line cry impairing

11:10

i'm drinking water why

11:14

nationally good for you

11:16

when our fans thicker

11:18

requested

11:19

ramsey a chill or bowl rare

11:22

businesses have a high bar or myself

11:24

well you like a child read though

11:27

i do for that is weird torture

11:29

yeah weird thought wow you really want to see

11:31

me suffer your inflicting the torture

11:33

yes and then i thought to myself

11:36

i can make a summer cocktail

11:38

with this the employee

11:40

less pain

11:42

i have contacted a little summer sipper

11:45

using de france the it's a little red which

11:47

is a lighter bodied red wine that is meant

11:50

to be served chilled arm

11:52

and can be great in like wine cocktails

11:54

and scenarios know so i

11:56

did sort of a twist on a sangria

11:59

the air

12:00

grampian syllable read when blood

12:02

orange

12:03

the juices and then i slice

12:05

it to add to my cocktail

12:08

ah my also use a splash the of rhubarb

12:11

shrub which i will talk about

12:12

i was a shrub of me to a

12:14

splash her grandma yea and a little

12:16

the of just like a dash of lemonade

12:19

if you're wondering what a shrub is quote

12:22

a shrub is basically an old way of

12:24

preserving it's typically of fruit infused

12:26

syrup

12:27

the refresh ingredients and fortified with vinegar

12:29

or alcohol said it's age and

12:32

that develops the flavor and the complexity so

12:34

this job is rhubarb

12:36

with apple cider vinegar and sugar i

12:38

make them not

12:40

all the time but i have made

12:43

you could make i'm rosemary shrub

12:45

is really really go any and like gin and

12:47

tonics a saint germain and like

12:49

you can just kind of peruse what you have i

12:51

have some strawberries a hopefully that

12:53

will fruits they fear in one of the path

12:55

to my yeah i want to make a strawberries rob

12:57

at the end of the summer it's

13:00

like a tart he like a tart

13:03

there's almost as right yeah it's

13:05

sort of like fitters but it's more like for

13:07

met it's almost like come boots or the way that

13:09

i make it to the doing it with vinegar

13:11

so i like nine with apple cider vinegar

13:14

but you can do it you can make a shrub and just

13:16

like value high profile like hit

13:18

in the martha stewart

13:20

activities listen i

13:22

like to garden and i like to make

13:24

a shrub and i'm going to get in a matter of

13:26

and so my eyes is going really great

13:29

oh my god macrame liquid

13:32

i started yesterday and eventually

13:34

this is they go and i could drag

13:36

all summer long and i can because i

13:38

have a fucking bark

13:40

brand the are in my goddamn fred's now

13:43

and and i you the air or

13:45

the about trying to make a shrub

13:47

they're super duper easy

13:49

oh yeah i'm afraid and there that are not even earlier

13:52

was the term yeah it's so easy

13:54

it's it's literally have put stuff in a jar

13:56

cover it and let it sit yeah you can

13:58

just google like waiver

14:01

herb whatever that you

14:03

think would be fun

14:05

google that word and shrub

14:07

and a million a recipe for it will pop up

14:09

it's so

14:10

never even heard of this thing i'm

14:12

not sure if you had cocktails that use

14:15

a shrub because it's rare we really popular

14:17

at like

14:19

craft cocktail bars and shit like that

14:21

and they can up charge you for that kind of

14:23

shit but it costs like nothing to

14:25

make your own

14:26

when we were in philadelphia as that

14:28

really fun rooftop bar my

14:31

head of i guess it was a beer

14:33

but it was like us as rhubarb

14:35

shrubby beer and at we are really

14:38

fucking good i mean shrub is

14:41

some what fermented so in totally

14:43

works like a sour oh

14:46

well

14:47

fears are men thing and like

14:50

weird sugar

14:52

will come into play into my

14:55

case right away the yeah wow

14:57

cheers

14:58

the far as cheers six

15:01

years now and baby the

15:03

on born one

15:05

drink and for to

15:08

my only have one the legal entity

15:10

with right right right handed it's

15:12

the baby not has now you

15:15

according to our supreme court and like one

15:17

must be out of bed as is this is now

15:19

a pair of life a living with a non oh

15:22

non oh no

15:24

it's a clump of cells the st all

15:26

electric site electrical

15:28

they know pulsating it at yeah

15:31

like her

15:33

when there is not even now heart

15:35

to have chambers that could beat

15:37

crime the same time

15:42

the miracle of motherhood okay

15:44

the boy right

15:47

yeah you're damn you

15:49

know now any less are some

15:51

insight for of we're sort of

15:53

i did you go now side again

15:56

murder and cannot afford to lose the

16:02

oh my god okay

16:04

from encyclopedia britannica

16:07

the father of my child who who torture

16:09

is the infection of severe physical or

16:11

mental pain or suffering for a

16:13

purpose such as extracting information

16:16

cobra see a confession or inflicting

16:18

punishment

16:19

your my committed by a public official

16:22

or other person exercising comparable

16:25

power and authority

16:27

so that bullying

16:30

in bag the event

16:32

it has an intense whether it's eliciting

16:34

some sort of information or a confession

16:37

or or a punishment my

16:40

departure can result in death

16:42

but it's not the same as an

16:44

execution necessarily

16:47

you're probably gonna get to this but i

16:49

have a question though

16:52

in my case

16:54

the word a toward sure

16:56

i ate i find

16:59

this case you have

17:01

been torture although

17:04

it was for like sexual

17:06

gratification mean does

17:08

that fall under that category if

17:10

i totally misunderstood the assignment

17:13

whatever i am a lunatic i know i might

17:15

other her minus there's a lot of overlap

17:18

okay i really like a lot of serial killers

17:20

inflicts right actual torture

17:22

for as their own benefit pretty

17:25

busy but even the person being

17:27

subjected upon could

17:29

find some sort of pleasure

17:31

about it and i don't have the case in this

17:33

but i don't know about which analysts horse horse

17:35

circus a feeling you would you yeah exactly

17:38

well there are only i'll rephrase there

17:40

are some methods of torture

17:42

that are intended to inflict like bad

17:45

pain onto the ball that

17:47

sometimes inflicted pain okay

17:49

oh my god bdsm third

17:52

right and forms of bdsm that are pleasurable

17:54

for the recipient then

17:56

ourselves knox and would elicit

17:59

a confession of sort sure okay

18:01

kid

18:02

i think as with everything it's

18:04

a spectrum there's a lot of overlap will

18:06

get to kind of the overlap okay

18:09

yeah it was a i didn't total gray area

18:12

of the know we'll get to sitting that that

18:14

oh god ok move on and on there

18:16

are a torturers who

18:19

darius the pleasure

18:21

from

18:22

inflicting torture even though the purpose

18:25

of that torture might be something else

18:27

like eliciting a concession or when or yeah

18:29

salads a pleasure we're getting

18:31

or that torturer getting sadistic pleasure

18:34

right what's happening in my get record sure

18:36

i won't be coverings that's

18:39

because there was so

18:41

much to talk about that i mostly just focus

18:43

on the things that i've found interesting

18:45

as it's our it's our podcast

18:48

we can do what we want to there are no other way

18:53

i had a nearby up we want to

18:55

add do we employees at wembley

18:57

cry

18:59

i usually cry after bad yeah i'm

19:01

i'm sorry and cry on the ,

19:04

of of lot of

19:07

bills

19:09

okay so thirty in the eighteenth century

19:11

and the last two were societies replacing

19:14

physical punishments with things

19:16

like sales sentences and exile

19:18

in fines in addition

19:20

to police forces

19:22

torture began to be seen as cruel

19:24

and an unnecessary although it at

19:27

there's been evidence of torture being used

19:30

as a punitive process or

19:32

to elicit some sort of information from

19:34

like

19:35

time immemorial it has never gone

19:38

away way back the

19:41

that wind abolished torture and seventeen

19:43

l a and by the beginning of the nineteenth

19:46

century most of europe had abandoned

19:48

the practice in a in a legal sense

19:51

and after that any violence dem demonstrated

19:54

against xml was deemed a prime

19:57

in life overall

20:00

but obviously we will get to certain

20:03

circumstances when it was also

20:05

shot like conditions generally in

20:07

the nineteenth century where that great so why

20:11

, lot past as not sure

20:13

i think i'm gonna take us you are

20:16

very extensive list of specific

20:18

kinds of torture and most of them

20:20

do not include types

20:22

that are employed today by like going

20:24

oh i don't know the us government's

20:26

way or whatever sewn

20:29

your local police force most

20:32

of over talking about today as lake sort

20:35

of historical means of

20:37

porter but how effective

20:39

is torture actually although

20:42

the effectiveness of torture has been defended

20:44

by many throughout history notably

20:46

aristotle and sir francis

20:48

bacon it was attacked

20:50

as early as roman times for encouraging

20:53

it's victims to lie so

20:55

even then they were just like ah

20:57

people are just gonna say whatever they can the know the

20:59

pain stop exactly yeah

21:01

exactly it's not that

21:04

difficult concept to figure out and

21:06

yeah don't seem to be struggling

21:08

with it in

21:10

ancient greece and rome physical torture

21:12

was lawfully use usually on

21:14

non citizens or slaves

21:17

enslaved people as people as of

21:19

obtaining information or confession

21:22

later in early medieval europe torture

21:24

was used as the trial itself

21:26

in the ordeal were in the suspects

21:29

response extreme physical pain serve

21:31

as the basis for establishing guilt or

21:33

innocence just the most bonkers

21:37

you can imagine i mean it's it's

21:39

like we've heard the salem witch trials

21:41

and like oh if she drowned she's

21:43

innocent and if she says she's a license is going to

21:45

be burned anyway it's like there's no ras

21:48

now right right or

21:50

like the pricking of the skin

21:52

i'm like why does it if they

21:55

didn't feel it they were a which

21:57

that they didn't like flint's yeah

22:00

like sometimes a way to be so

22:02

desensitized from like other painful

22:04

shit they've been through right

22:07

i don't know i think so absurd

22:09

i think the point here is so

22:11

i consider like the enlightenment period

22:14

as a , surprising

22:16

that it didn't diminish like

22:18

torture as the practice in general

22:21

because that was all about like rationale

22:23

and logic and all that stuff so i'm

22:26

scared but it didn't disappear it it

22:28

definitely shifted it shifted away from

22:30

the the which drowning and all that stuff

22:33

but yeah i'd say was still have

22:35

a practice and is still a practice

22:38

in the later middle ages torture was again

22:40

used to secure concessions and cases

22:43

and serious crime confession

22:45

was known by the term at this point

22:47

as the queen of proof or

22:50

proof

22:51

they're so myself now know the

22:53

like that guy is the as an arm

22:55

of harold as yeah and often

22:57

so is in courtrooms today like as

22:59

you confess to about me how could you not

23:01

have done it i think for a while

23:04

or in some some places and

23:06

and times

23:08

somebody couldn't be prosecuted

23:10

and tell that confessed and

23:13

so they would just keep for

23:15

trying until they gotta confess and

23:17

confess and was seen as like

23:20

the when their job right because otherwise

23:22

they have to let the person go i

23:24

mean that so how it's done

23:27

fuckin in

23:29

a lot of where it's

23:31

we talk about will take oh how

23:33

i was in the middle ages the dark ages

23:35

might now back when we didn't know when he died

23:38

as a little liars ah and

23:41

right now post nine eleven

23:44

which

23:46

kind of get you no

23:49

good

23:50

well not really actually leap pointedly

23:52

will not get to that because it was too

23:54

much the dark that

23:57

moving on a bunch of sick bullshit took

23:59

place between world two or during

24:01

world war two and that

24:04

oh shit then galvanize international

24:06

efforts defining and banning certain

24:09

kinds of torture the

24:11

quote the first legal responses were say

24:13

that in the prohibitions of torture and similar

24:16

inhumane treatment or inhuman treatment

24:18

in the nineteen forty eight universal declaration

24:21

of human rights and the nineteen forty nine geneva

24:23

conventions particularly in

24:25

the convention relative to the treatment of prisoners

24:28

of war and the convention relatives

24:30

as the protection of civilians persons

24:33

in time of war devil

24:36

kind of that too during

24:38

war and during late the

24:40

upheaval wanna unrest the

24:43

torture by by the state

24:45

is extremely common and

24:47

an often under reported like

24:51

a terry like that

24:53

that that's when you have to be

24:55

mindful of that kind of thing like in the

24:57

ukraine right now like

24:59

right now

25:00

torture was also prohibited by the international

25:03

covenant on civil and political rights

25:05

which was it entered into force in nineteen

25:07

seventy six in

25:09

all faiths our party to that covenant

25:11

while regional human rights treaties

25:14

were adopted and europe which will happen

25:16

nineteen fifty and

25:18

the americas in nineteen sixty nine

25:20

and africa and nineteen eighty one

25:23

so ongoing definitions and legislation

25:25

is needed though as different

25:27

human rights initiatives around the world continue

25:30

to uncover uses of torture particularly

25:33

against political prisoners and like

25:35

i said in circumstances of armed conflict

25:38

it also the complicated issues of jurisdiction

25:41

and extradition and cases of

25:43

like worldwide international offenses

25:46

it it's dream least complicated

25:49

and convoluted i know that kenyan can speak

25:51

more to this and i can but work that again

25:53

this is a very there's a lot

25:55

can be said it all depends

25:58

on there my

26:00

to recognize the armed conflict

26:03

taking place at the time that

26:05

would have been allowed on itself

26:07

which isn't always the case which is why

26:10

you know countries will play around with different terms

26:12

like it's a special operation

26:14

or it's a war is a conflict

26:17

it's a conflict but it's not a war

26:19

because if the baton

26:23

our state actors like

26:25

an army belonging to a state that

26:27

is different than if the combatants are like terrorist

26:30

cells or you know just

26:33

like random gangs or whatever

26:36

so all of all kind of depends on

26:38

like these legal definitions

26:40

and then you get down into

26:43

which country has signed on to

26:45

which treaty and if they

26:47

are a member of the international criminal

26:49

court which the us is not then

26:52

whether or not they can extradite people i mean it's

26:54

just all like legal

26:58

it is a little details and then

27:00

all semi lay fucking complicated release

27:03

on know who lives in way answer and

27:05

so few internationally

27:07

like so few perpetrators

27:10

ever get prosecuted

27:13

or held to a cow it's just like too

27:16

hard to do it after the fact that the process

27:18

takes forever like a

27:20

major cases people have like died

27:23

of natural causes like way before

27:25

of a verdict ever came down

27:28

the mass of the mass

27:31

yeah that that sort of

27:34

underlying factor of my

27:36

as don't yeah they've all that

27:38

an hour ago and like a very few

27:41

people are ever held to account and

27:43

don't expect justice

27:46

and also like all of these issues

27:49

were at least in the west were exacerbated

27:51

by the september eleventh attacks were

27:53

and then we had guantanamo bay

27:55

and abu ghraib alleys black sites and all

27:57

that much disliked i i i

28:00

parked my car that and also

28:02

like

28:03

and i can't remember all the details

28:05

now but like

28:06

was it

28:10

the attorney general for yeah

28:12

be you like basically

28:14

came up with like his own definition

28:16

of torture read more which

28:19

allowed all which allowed like waterboarding

28:21

and like sleep deprivation and and

28:23

like light the exposure and

28:25

like all a new sounds

28:28

whatever like annihilating the or well as who

28:30

are bullshit but the bush administration

28:33

legalize

28:35

all that they do they get animated all along

28:38

whatever i got yeah the

28:41

book that post nine eleven bush administration

28:43

know that it's own saying i absolutely

28:46

cannot i can't i alert every own

28:48

out and i can't it be

28:50

it's own podcast right

28:54

the much but basically they just one guy

28:56

on paper was like you know about snap waterboarding

28:58

that torture that's enhanced interrogation

29:02

ah and over him get away

29:04

with it i was a heavy

29:06

handedness right

29:08

like that paying someone and having

29:10

them like stand edo in a foreigner for

29:12

days in bright light and like all this

29:14

horrible shit yeah

29:16

then like i said i'm minute i'm about to go through

29:18

a whole list and i do

29:21

you not want to talk about

29:23

whether or not these specific things

29:25

are classified

29:27

as swords or right under a different you

29:30

know administration's but

29:32

we're not i'll get a podcast it's

29:34

it does suck in is it is

29:38

under the under

29:39

you know humanity silva

29:42

said let's talk about the different flavors

29:44

different flavors torture the god

29:47

we have talked about some of these and a wrongful

29:49

executions episode which was i

29:51

believe to twenty five which you may remember

29:53

as like the blood eagle for

29:56

example example shit i'd

29:58

never heard of before and that of the out lots

30:01

of messages execution

30:04

than a crossover torture

30:07

and a lot of torture results in

30:09

gas which is technically execution

30:11

but it's a gray area yeah

30:15

probably depends on the goal and the purpose of

30:17

the gone the purpose is to like extract

30:19

information that then once you have the

30:21

information you think you want then

30:24

if death occurs you don't you might not dire

30:27

verses you you might actually

30:29

care and not want that person to die and keep

30:31

them alive for as long as possible while

30:33

also like especially if you're eliciting

30:35

some sort of ah just any information

30:38

and it doesn't matter to you whether they live

30:40

you can push that person to the point

30:43

of life and death in order

30:45

to extract that information

30:47

so anyway some and of first

30:49

be talking about i'm ah

30:51

psychological torture examples

30:55

but also there's a lot of overlap between that

30:57

and physical torture which

30:59

will get him okay

31:01

says examples of psychological torture

31:03

included been subjected to interrogation

31:06

for long periods of time

31:09

which as we can assume

31:11

the us doesn't abide by that as

31:13

right hi are they allowed to hold

31:15

you for twenty four hours

31:18

so i see didn't want to with our urges

31:20

morning it within the us domestic

31:23

criminal and civil space yes

31:25

that not necessarily

31:28

the broader if somebody is a possible

31:30

enemy combatants

31:32

the am not an indefinite

31:35

a believe yeah well that's all we've

31:37

been seeing

31:39

they could subjected to blackmailing

31:41

to chalk board scraping

31:43

which is exactly what you think it is and

31:45

actually some researchers

31:48

did studies into what exactly

31:50

it is about nails

31:52

on a chalkboard that like offends

31:54

people so much yeah and yeah think

31:57

it might be because that certain

31:59

we like the sound but like that specific

32:02

pitches register a something

32:04

in our brains that like

32:06

hearkens back to

32:08

predatory days of like monkeys they're

32:12

up their alarm calls their

32:14

own arm screams are are

32:16

equally as offensive to the ear

32:19

louder thing is that we are probably

32:21

depends on in an individual's like

32:23

sense of hearing is like

32:25

biological men and women can like seared

32:28

different

32:29

given pitches differently

32:31

that is a pretty universal offensive

32:34

sounds though yeah i do think

32:36

some people are more sensitive to it than others

32:38

so and i might have you like poor hearing

32:41

but like i am who i feel like i'm less

32:43

sensitive to it then some

32:46

even thinking about it makes me read

32:49

all i don't like it the

32:51

quote unquote chinese water torture

32:54

which i have done that to zack here

32:58

there are dead cow i

33:01

fought i thought this story

33:04

i'd go remember

33:06

he were we were in dc for a

33:08

summer doing internships and

33:11

rented an apartment and

33:14

there was furnished or whatever and they had these

33:16

like nice embroidered like turkish

33:19

pillows on the bed and

33:21

we went out and zach guys

33:24

two litre rated drunk and i was barely

33:27

to and we

33:30

when home early cause he was a mass

33:33

and we were really young were

33:35

like twenty two and

33:38

went back to the apartment and he

33:41

had to throw up so i like got

33:43

everything ready i like laid him in the

33:45

bad i got him like a trashcan

33:48

to throw up and i moved to the pillows

33:50

prof the room

33:53

like he's on one side of the bad they are

33:55

solely on the other side of

33:57

the room away from him i

34:01

know said he was gonna throw

34:03

up

34:04

that i'm all set and then i'm like watching tv

34:06

in the living room and like monitoring his breathing

34:08

and making sorry that like choking that as

34:11

have you do you want us on saturday night and

34:14

success success he

34:16

proceeds to sit bolt upright

34:18

and bed ignore the trash

34:20

bin next to him projectile

34:23

vomit across the room

34:26

only on the pillows like

34:29

zag like for get it

34:32

and there destroyed then

34:34

i was really really pissed off at him and

34:37

so i put him in the bathtub

34:41

rank for the rest of the night so he slaps

34:43

the rest of the night in the bath tub with

34:45

his head under the faucet and

34:47

and amazon him and it jumped on him

34:49

all night

34:50

okay well he candidate that truth

34:52

i know your file so

34:54

kind of a monster nice here for your child

34:57

but well so here's the definition

35:00

of chinese in order to boards or ak

35:03

a dripping machine which dripping feel more

35:06

the way of putting

35:08

this is a mentally painful process

35:10

in which cold water is slowly drift onto

35:12

the scalp forehead or face for a

35:14

prolonged period of time the

35:16

process causes fear and mental

35:19

deterioration in the subject

35:21

the pattern of the drops is often irregular

35:24

and the cold sensation is jarring

35:27

which causes anxiety as the person

35:29

tries to anticipate the

35:31

next threat if web like

35:33

a baby wow i

35:35

have i have have of

35:37

sat on the drive which will be on the blog

35:40

that way wide requires a photo

35:42

of the water torture very

35:44

ill yes

35:46

well i kind of photo id say air it's

35:48

a it's an illustration oh

35:50

okay do we believe that this was actually

35:53

like first practice in china

35:55

or is that just like a mess

35:58

i'm no i said i think that the

36:00

what is believed but

36:02

i don't

36:03

i'm not going to , their own

36:05

a rather than as ripping machine that

36:08

photo says that's an accurate

36:10

illustration of that save save

36:13

average hourly that see you in the back

36:15

with appointed hat yup last

36:17

year of ram of our church

36:19

was then the next day i

36:21

made him go to brunch at like ten am

36:24

like yeah you

36:26

are a fucking free i was really

36:28

mad you

36:30

have was brand that

36:32

how are you up at ten am which is diving

36:34

you usually deal i wouldn't personally never

36:36

choose to go to brunch that are listening to

36:39

asbestos

36:41

the up at dawn for a run after

36:43

a night out and i'll let you like guy

36:46

had a know out a go back

36:48

the zulu okay more psychological

36:51

torture we have the ego fragmentation

36:54

which is the complete loss of subjective

36:56

self identity however

36:58

ways of getting to this but it's basically

37:00

just like breaking you down

37:03

very base level like them

37:06

what's it called the word one

37:13

come later five rating you down

37:15

like a even of the brain washing if

37:17

he were to be like oh you that a follow this cult

37:20

leader or whatever mean this is

37:22

nothing this is nothing there's no

37:24

hope there's no savior it's nothing you

37:26

are just flat who

37:29

year the lab there's

37:31

nothing k then we

37:33

have exploitation of phobias

37:35

like for example a marks a mock

37:37

execution or maybe if they

37:39

knew you were an iraqi deaths sold

37:41

if they left you in a room full of spiders

37:44

hey from horrible i am i had

37:46

a clear that source nudity

37:48

leave that learned helplessness

37:51

was i think is a related

37:53

to the eagle fragmentation yeah

37:55

how old are like ask if you can

37:57

take a sip of water ask if you can go

37:59

to the bathroom if he can

38:02

i think the that that was particularly

38:04

employed like if somebody made several escape

38:06

attempts or something like that like they would

38:08

just like fuckin be you the fuck

38:11

down so you just to add know

38:13

like sense of the

38:15

on a me at all

38:19

let me have music torture or

38:21

podcast torture well my

38:24

why are obey mail

38:28

right here they play this podcast on repeat

38:31

and i guantanamo bay it's the best

38:33

way i wish we could use the download

38:36

i know right

38:40

ah mas our gonna get

38:42

out there

38:45

in guantanamo bay please write

38:47

us and i tunes reveal helps

38:49

us our yeah when

38:51

remarks

38:53

it may have a pharmacological torture

38:55

so the aim of this is the fourth compliance

38:57

by causing distress distress

39:00

which could be in a form of pain anxiety

39:03

psychological disturbance immobilization

39:06

or disorientation are like

39:08

what they did the alan turing where they like gave

39:10

i'm horrible like hormone therapy

39:13

or punish him because he was gay

39:15

yeah oh my god it was

39:17

like chemical castration

39:19

yeah so that it was that's exactly what this

39:21

would be so one form of this torture

39:23

involved forcibly injecting a person

39:26

with an addictive drug in order to induce

39:28

physical dependence and

39:30

then once the drug is withdrawn

39:32

and the person is in withdrawal

39:35

the interrogation cancer and they can

39:37

say like know we're only getting give you this harrell

39:39

when after you answer our

39:41

questions or whatever and their dependency

39:44

is so what you'd and so

39:46

strong that they'd they'd that that

39:48

is what they do they have no choice that can also

39:50

be used in like human trafficking situation

39:53

thousand percent yet i am we have

39:55

sensory deprivation sleep deprivation

39:58

and then what's hot streak

40:00

the provisions also known as submission

40:02

positions so these place the

40:04

human body in such a way that a great

40:07

amount of weight is place on just one

40:09

or two muscles god

40:11

for men were a fucking nightmare i know

40:13

on my back anything yeah

40:15

could be like six in this ergonomic

40:18

chair they are more than four

40:20

hours and can't do it i'll tell

40:22

you all you needed

40:24

for you that's like for a desk job is

40:26

now a constant stress position

40:29

sell for example subjects may be forced

40:31

to stand on the balls of their feet

40:33

and then squat so that their size

40:36

or parallel to the ground there

40:38

is a photo on the drive which will

40:40

be on the blog of a yeah

40:42

it's others viet cong prisoner

40:45

and they have american soldiers

40:47

who have tired this

40:49

person's arms behind their back with

40:51

and like a bull word so they cannot

40:53

move their arm supply

40:56

their back hi

40:58

then i think somehow tied the rest

41:01

to the ankles or something like that so they're forced

41:03

into the crouching position for

41:06

god knows how long time

41:09

some i will say that in some cultures

41:11

like swatting i'm not saying that about

41:13

this photo at all like not

41:15

excusing this at all

41:17

what i'm saying in some cultures

41:19

like it's way more common to sit

41:21

in a deep squat like that

41:23

for long periods of time i know with your arms

41:26

not with your arms at france's the arms

41:28

race yeah like you can

41:30

kind of if you're used to it you'd

41:32

probably

41:33

be more comfortable for a longer fed

41:36

whereas like the three of us are

41:38

that fucking used to squatting like that yeah

41:42

yeah , nasa squatting like that

41:44

with our arms free would probably be

41:46

torture is for us who are not used to that

41:48

position but the fact that their arms

41:51

right it's it's like almost a dislocation

41:53

of the shoulders still right so

41:55

again this creates an intense amount of pressure on

41:57

the legs leading first the pain

42:00

and then some muscles failure other

42:02

examples of stress position are

42:04

the jetliner position which

42:07

is sacred to a wall said

42:09

something called the murder

42:11

punishment and murder in

42:14

this at least one i think several

42:16

languages means rooster this

42:20

is a punishment where a person

42:22

must use

42:24

your imagination but there is also a photo on the drive

42:26

of this but the person squat

42:30

then loops their arms behind

42:33

the knees and then

42:35

holds onto their era lobes yeah

42:37

so your opposite ear lobe that would

42:39

be really painful for the lower back

42:42

i can barely do this sitting in

42:44

a regular position

42:46

holding my own ear lobes with my aunt the i

42:48

am imagine looping your arms

42:51

underneath your knees and doing

42:53

that having to be in any one

42:55

position for an extended period

42:57

of time kids yeah can be detrimental

42:59

yeah yeah could be laying down flat

43:01

and if it's for long enough without being

43:04

allowed to move the

43:06

i can be as fast as i said the

43:09

right down

43:12

now we'll get too that there's

43:14

also physician part the struck hoddle

43:16

well here we go

43:18

the veterans hands are tied behind

43:20

his back and then the victim is suspended

43:23

by a rope attached to the risk

43:26

and like that said so little typically

43:28

results in dislocated shoulder

43:31

and then on top of that weights might

43:33

be added to the body to intensify

43:35

the effect in increase the team's

43:38

i think that that is a

43:40

it was sanctioned during the bush administration

43:43

as a legal form

43:45

of enhanced interrogation literally that

43:47

stress position well that's bizarre

43:50

because this type of torture of would generally

43:52

not last more than an hour without

43:54

rest as it would likely result

43:56

in death so they can hit they

43:58

can dangle them there

44:00

her her at most

44:02

in our data thought there's

44:04

an illustration on the drive of this as well

44:06

really fucking grow and like a

44:08

person in the l a so send

44:10

their like the legs are tucked up i

44:12

think just because it's so painful you just

44:14

try not to dangle in too many positions

44:18

like you wanna keep all your way towards the

44:20

front of your body instead of down

44:23

by your feet the be less

44:25

stress on your shoulders i don't know

44:27

it's fucking browse ah

44:30

okay psychological torture that

44:33

a permanent for a severe ah

44:35

disfigurement such as the threat of

44:37

it that kid or torture

44:39

amanda i think we'll get to it this

44:42

actually falls under physical torture as

44:44

well water

44:46

bore a waterboarding also says

44:48

it'll torture then what called the

44:50

welcome parade so like if

44:52

you're a new prisoner in a

44:54

in a in a prison environment they like

44:56

send you to a don't let no

44:59

kidding you yelling at you

45:01

like it sat mental let's kill

45:03

you or anything but says meant the

45:06

like all these people know who the fuck

45:08

you are

45:09

it and they're letting their letting them

45:12

blow off steam

45:14

or to other prisoners last seem

45:16

like get used to let this is your life now

45:19

the very handmade sale

45:22

oh yeah

45:23

the problem welcome parade which

45:25

is so fucking for as as really creepy

45:28

and then what are the weight room torture

45:30

or just white torture

45:32

though we i've heard

45:34

about this but i didn't really think about what it

45:36

entailed in this is so fucking disturbing

45:39

they'll visually the prisoner is deprived

45:42

of all color of their salary

45:44

completely white the wall floor

45:46

and ceiling as well as their clothes

45:48

and their food neon

45:50

tubes are positioned above the occupant

45:53

in such a way that no shadows appear

45:56

auditorily the seller soundproof and

45:58

white have any sound voice the are social

46:00

interaction guard sand

46:02

and silence wearing padded shoes

46:04

to avoid making any noise

46:08

when i cannot hear anything but themselves

46:11

in terms of case and smell the prisoner

46:13

is featherweight food which classically

46:16

beans and season two white race

46:19

the deprive them of the senses further

46:21

all surfaces or smooth robbing them of

46:24

the sensation of touch the

46:26

chinese are often held for months or even

46:28

years the effect of white torture

46:30

are well documented in a number of testimonial

46:34

let me present will become depersonalize

46:36

are losing personal identity of

46:38

for extended periods of isolation causing

46:40

hallucinations or even psychotic

46:42

breaks and i read one account

46:45

the guy who was held in a white sell

46:47

for about like eight months or so

46:50

and when he came out he said i'm i'm

46:52

not i'm i'm not a person anymore i

46:54

don't remember my parents'

46:56

faces

46:57

ah it's completely white itself

47:01

a factor any one like

47:02

home up with that i know

47:05

funding phrase maybe the creepiest

47:07

part okay

47:09

then i have

47:12

i am now

47:14

, really fun you guys are now

47:16

for like even more say i'm so i have

47:19

an alphabetical list of physical torture

47:21

he regarded as i feel like a lot of what

47:23

we've covered is pretty psyched

47:25

i say psyched i the hell it overlapped

47:28

the physical torture as much longer so i'm

47:30

only gonna stop us something like needs just

47:32

needs a definite sense as a lot

47:34

of them do not

47:36

that's as acid attack a

47:38

blinding with lights boiling burying

47:40

allies burning the blood eagle

47:43

we've discussed

47:44

though and breaking them through

47:46

torture like that

47:49

sharp bamboo yeah it's the nail

47:51

like a nail in bangor nail offer

47:55

me elaine which

47:57

is the removal of fingernails and toenails

47:59

with her for five minutes by them

48:01

bouchard also like

48:04

removing of nipples

48:06

i don't have that niman yeah

48:08

against oppo was really into that okay

48:13

berkshire which is basically just like last

48:15

saying with a bird's branch i love

48:17

a good birch two love birds

48:20

but they're like this kind of flexible

48:22

slender they're more like with

48:24

yeah they're really fucking painful

48:27

i imagine branding

48:29

castor oil and so i guess

48:32

kasriel i guess like makes you sit

48:34

and bar for bunch ah we will get

48:36

sued the the things to

48:39

every a forced diarrhea

48:42

okay so castor oil as far

48:44

as i could tell decided prom

48:47

evacuation of the bowels and it was

48:49

used to like the ability

48:51

people but also to embarrass sam

48:55

castor oil we got cigarette burns

48:57

castration which f

48:59

way i is just the removal of the testicles

49:02

not the whole penis will get

49:04

to it the chinese water

49:06

torture the whole that sell

49:08

torturer which i am assuming as as

49:10

being and really cold

49:13

not leave fully cold but like a really fucking

49:15

cold place or ,

49:17

like as simple as like not letting anybody

49:19

have a blanket you

49:22

know in a jail cell over the weekend

49:25

oh man ha karting

49:28

so i don't know if you've ever seen like wool

49:30

been carded

49:32

like raw wall from a sheep they

49:34

have those the other homes

49:37

with really long like prongs

49:39

him and as they used to live

49:41

home out a wall that's a parting

49:43

is that they use that on a person's

49:45

skin and just like so like really horrible

49:48

dry brushing but with right wing

49:50

yeah bulletin bloody

49:52

you know stretch him at a new friends

49:55

like as late as you like

49:58

boiled chicken remote

50:00

then we've got a crucifixion

50:02

crushing cutting disempowerment dismemberment

50:04

dehydration de mayo

50:07

laying like i said sunderland so

50:09

figure man's death by drowning dry

50:12

boarding since the opposite of like

50:14

waterboarding said this and induces

50:17

a sixty a centers us something

50:19

the subjects airways with rags

50:22

and then taping their nose and mouth shut

50:24

oh my god and probably just any other

50:27

kind of a success and like a plastic bag

50:29

on and off

50:30

yeah i mean i'm sure doesn't eat the rags

50:32

necessarily right drive or

50:34

us got his bad

50:37

counting animals emasculation

50:40

which is cutting off the penis and

50:42

testicles

50:44

oh or ,

50:46

be little lame wow

50:48

at of at more had i go as you said emasculation

50:51

you as emasculation of torture i think is right

50:55

off the

50:57

graduation slaying of foot rose

50:59

saying we don't need a description

51:01

about that foot with thing

51:04

i wouldn't also known as bass dinardo

51:08

more force feeding strangling

51:11

or got a using a go roads garage

51:13

the road think iraq iraq

51:17

i didn't adorable it is

51:19

a girl rouse genital mutilation

51:21

and or force circumcision

51:24

hamstringing which is when they just

51:26

caught your hamstrings i was

51:28

no ah war

51:30

done nuts over were not that

51:32

romer only i'm a is is we just

51:35

started the ages

51:36

you for inviting me we

51:38

got half hanging the guys

51:41

hanging drawn and quarter rain

51:43

the impale men's in

51:45

mere minutes ha lies

51:48

in two months being so like

51:50

buried alive buried alive but like

51:52

in a bigger tomb

51:54

yeah or not i don't know if

51:56

i live in a magazine has some as

51:59

i the paper

52:01

the covered the jetliner position the safely

52:03

oh what a wall set we've covered

52:05

keel hall laying in our ah

52:07

executions which is when you're strapped

52:09

to the the keel of a ship or

52:12

wait no well your ear bureau boy

52:14

on up a wholly arms or it over of all

52:16

of the ship

52:17

yeah and to i got a barnacled like

52:19

scrape you up and than as you finish your

52:22

honor for a long time yeah it's

52:24

you're probably gonna die senses

52:28

me tapping would you like us here

52:30

but it's most commonly like moderately

52:33

like if you're just shy yeah

52:36

shot at a at a at a

52:38

a close range in the top

52:40

see your knees and is it is because it's like very

52:42

painful and slow recovery

52:45

yeah at what

52:47

point you're gonna chase them

52:49

they call the menial which i gather

52:52

to be like slavery or

52:54

just like some sort of servitude

52:56

mutilation

52:59

no i use just like gap

53:01

nobody lives yeah ways if sleep

53:04

usually necklace saying

53:06

wish we'd discuss ah it's very

53:08

popular in south africa actually so

53:10

like you put up a bob roberts higher

53:12

around a person's and that yes and then

53:14

you light it on fire or you down sit

53:16

in some sort of fuel and then you light it on fire

53:19

yeah fire like a guy on it's a slow death

53:22

this explains all arises i'm any any are

53:24

like restrain somehow so you can't remove

53:27

the tire yes yes yes

53:30

yes yes ooh blue yet

53:32

the early yet is like of it's like a type

53:35

of dungeons where

53:37

it like it's a big underground dungeon

53:39

and dungeon and only exit is like

53:41

that hats are a whole are sensitive

53:44

door the very top look

53:47

like too tall for you to escape from so

53:49

like think of aladdin when he first

53:51

needs jaafar and that's and a whole

53:54

isn't it isn't there just like a whole at the top

53:56

yeah we will get ideally i

53:59

don't remember

54:00

if it in aladdin but we will get to

54:02

and who believes time

54:04

thing and i come from the verb

54:06

googly eyed which means to forget so

54:08

literally you're just thrown down there and forgotten

54:10

about yeah that's the case

54:12

scenario worst case

54:14

scenario there's additional torture within

54:17

the pet wow also

54:20

sometimes called

54:21

the bottle a bottle dungeon

54:23

because it's like tennis shaped like a bottle

54:27

then there is a really great bar

54:29

and jazz club in paris called the the disappear

54:32

oh

54:33

one only at i'd like to get him go

54:37

i'd like to get the know that obama

54:40

i won't forget that only at and

54:43

we have oxygen deprivation

54:46

hurry deprivation wish i guess is like

54:48

just electric shock

54:50

tapping said this process

54:52

this is so browse it involves pouring

54:55

hot pitch pitch meeting far

54:58

yup and so at the time

55:00

the the term was mainly

55:02

used for waterproofing seems

55:05

in the sides of ships are both like

55:08

that that's like that the

55:10

angle see it put the tar over the pitch

55:14

see poor that tar into tar conical

55:16

shape paper cat

55:18

the trick for son to a bound subjects

55:21

had allowed to cool

55:23

and edges ripped off oh

55:25

so you're just scalping them yet

55:28

again it's like our it's like getting

55:30

a wax on the town i'm

55:33

here or to act or yeah have

55:35

rebel wax on the top real holes

55:37

happier had wow

55:39

one

55:41

that is fucked up family has pliers

55:43

pressure planes rape rat

55:45

torture we've talked about rat torture

55:48

so like i'm disease or a hungry

55:50

rat as the slightly like you're somehow

55:52

opened up and under wraps like a new

55:54

and and or like this way out is put on

55:57

you and yeah yeah very

56:00

syria american psycho yeah

56:04

there's something called riding the rail

56:06

which was a punishment most prevalent in

56:08

the us in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries

56:11

in which an offender was made to straddle

56:13

offense rail which was

56:15

held on the shoulders of two or more

56:18

there's people to

56:20

the subject was then paraded around town or

56:22

taken to the city limits and dumped by

56:24

the roadside what i was kind

56:26

of us who are more embarrassing thing i wouldn't

56:28

call it torture by i

56:30

don't know i'm pretty bad and yeah

56:34

that's always on

56:35

the our i i think that there's other

56:38

things that are involved and riding the rail

56:40

but i'm i'm blanking on well

56:42

i wanted to different articles

56:44

that if you find something else i am more

56:46

than more than happy to

56:48

learn about it

56:50

there's something called the swedish drink

56:52

which is basically forcing somebody to drink

56:55

like noxious liquids

56:57

like like

57:00

okay hook up why is it sweet

57:02

okay fine iowa i don't have reduced

57:04

says i'm not take it outside i

57:06

do hate snaps

57:09

really

57:11

and i'm like a meadow oh

57:16

even even a little your

57:18

minutes

57:21

oh my god i leave that sighing

57:23

with that scalping we've got scammed

57:25

says them which i think we talked about maybe

57:27

and that wrongful executions

57:29

this is also known as getting as

57:31

the boats when

57:33

you travel victim between two boats

57:36

and you're usually and like up a like a

57:38

wooden box like

57:41

home between to both the

57:43

early years for sad and also

57:45

covered in milk and honey

57:48

say that we will get to it so

57:50

the milk and honey eventual he

57:52

gives you like have rebel diarrhea

57:55

and and his digestive issues

57:57

so then your bar thing in sitting and

57:59

an all you're continuing to be covered

58:01

of the milk and honey saw the

58:03

like bugs and shit are attracted to

58:06

you so you hi

58:08

from dehydration and all

58:10

the pooping barf and stuff and then also your

58:12

slowly being eaten alive by insects

58:14

and other berman corey

58:18

by put on assess assess

58:23

that's how we have a called a shrimp

58:25

tie which is like a specific

58:28

way of tying somebody up in

58:30

a particular way and a half dozen this

58:32

kind of cross over with some of the bdsm

58:34

situation right and if it's consensual

58:37

go for it yeah

58:39

hi your sram plenty leave

58:42

guide sensory overload sexual assaults

58:44

the shin bone crusher dealt

58:46

crusher dealt that we get it next a we get

58:48

it

58:49

sleep deprivation sound

58:52

or so this will be extremely high volumes

58:54

dynamic range low frequency

58:56

high pitched noise intended to interfere

58:58

with rest cognition and concentration

59:01

we've got starvation stoning

59:04

we talked about the strip pado i'd

59:06

also known as reverse hanging

59:09

stress positions he talks about tarring and

59:11

feathering a some screw we

59:13

talked about in this month likes

59:15

to que sin they don't torture

59:17

amanda tooth extraction law

59:20

laying which is others

59:23

the in modern times

59:25

a us uses at guantanamo

59:27

and other places they put

59:29

like i'm some sort of rubber like

59:31

a flexible color on a person

59:34

the man it wasn't

59:37

super clear to me whether the person

59:39

was like polled by the color

59:42

against of a concrete

59:44

wall and sudden

59:46

my third by their head didn't necessarily

59:49

hit necessarily hit it's like extreme trauma

59:51

to the neck and the soul on ice

59:53

and that guy in the back if they fell

59:56

asleep then they would

59:58

he brought against

1:00:00

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1:00:02

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1:00:04

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1:00:07

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1:00:09

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1:00:10

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1:00:12

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1:00:14

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1:00:17

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1:00:20

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1:00:23

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1:00:25

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1:00:29

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arthur connolly was a well known at

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british intelligence officer xr

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their conan doyle since explorer

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light cavalry working

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numerous reconnaissance missions

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into central asia i

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think all like the stands young

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others to hear that on the

1:06:23

often traveled in disguise using

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the name pan alley

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would you like to play on words as sounded like

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his name on away a lady our

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the add these ideas are all a club

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i mean i would have been very proud of coming up with

1:06:37

i never

1:06:40

i tried my english is chinese

1:06:42

translation

1:06:43

right like that's chinese name

1:06:46

was come the league which was like

1:06:49

to be like his last name cut when and

1:06:51

zachary anyway

1:06:54

so although it would later be popularized

1:06:57

in this ah the richard kipling

1:06:59

novel kim

1:07:00

hardly was actually the person who coined

1:07:02

the phrase the great game

1:07:05

which describes like that competing

1:07:07

as or it's of the russian

1:07:10

on british empire's trying to

1:07:12

gain control over central asia like

1:07:15

say still exists today

1:07:17

in flag the u s vs russia

1:07:19

like trying to gain control over afghanistan

1:07:23

kind of anyway it's okay got it

1:07:25

so most people

1:07:27

would say that this game began

1:07:30

in eighteen thirty seven when queen victoria

1:07:33

the throne and britain began as

1:07:35

dabbling more of a colonial presence

1:07:37

and india the breadth were

1:07:40

already in india for decades

1:07:44

maybe even a century but like they

1:07:46

started to try to

1:07:49

really take over more control

1:07:52

and like rest power away from

1:07:54

local leaders

1:07:58

what are you

1:08:00

played a major role in the great

1:08:02

game by helping to overthrow

1:08:04

an afghan monarchs and

1:08:06

install a king who had agreed to align

1:08:08

his country's policies with britain's

1:08:10

interests

1:08:13

after the success connelly became

1:08:15

a go to man for missions to spread

1:08:18

britain's influence around the world

1:08:20

one such mission was actually something of

1:08:22

a rescue mission

1:08:24

we will get to how horribly

1:08:27

at who's affleck now god

1:08:29

he was sent to attempt to free

1:08:31

a british diplomat named charles

1:08:34

stoddart the was being

1:08:36

held against his will in blue car

1:08:38

up

1:08:39

that was an ancient city that has now part

1:08:41

of present day is pakistan and

1:08:43

their photos on the dry of of to clara

1:08:45

very cool looking play

1:08:49

i an absolute never heard of though

1:08:52

dart the one that he

1:08:54

that connolly of trying to rescue

1:08:57

had that said people cora three years

1:08:59

earlier to gain an audience with the

1:09:02

emir the mayor game as

1:09:04

nasrullah con and

1:09:07

he was trying to deliver a letter of

1:09:09

reassurance that britain had no intention

1:09:12

of invading

1:09:13

the car famous last words

1:09:16

even know they had literally just

1:09:19

they invaded afghanistan

1:09:21

which is neighboring

1:09:23

like we're taking over by you're

1:09:25

fine yeah we're not

1:09:27

comment over the area why

1:09:29

we got our a at all just like everybody's

1:09:32

hill the edge because

1:09:34

we took over the country next to yours doesn't mean

1:09:36

that you're at risk so likes

1:09:38

probably drop your defenses and

1:09:41

wow gave everybody the day off it's sign

1:09:43

role lack lack

1:09:45

be so hysterical hi

1:09:50

the also was sent try to attempt

1:09:53

the emir to freeze

1:09:55

several russian prisoners that he was

1:09:57

already holding so we've got one

1:10:00

it going to try to get prisoners

1:10:02

fried and then he becomes a prisoner and then another

1:10:04

guy going to set that

1:10:06

guy for though

1:10:08

in a second part of this mission might sound

1:10:10

confusing because

1:10:14

britain was fighting how

1:10:16

and troll and power against the russians

1:10:18

and then this british guy is said to free

1:10:20

russian prisoners the

1:10:23

actually

1:10:24

the key degree there was a purpose so he

1:10:27

was trying to free

1:10:29

the russian prisoners so that russia wouldn't

1:10:31

have a pretext to invade

1:10:34

bukhara then

1:10:37

russia would lay off and then britain

1:10:39

would have more influence

1:10:41

and bakara long term

1:10:45

yeah that it

1:10:48

doesn't really matter what matters

1:10:50

is the guy that was says

1:10:52

daughter the first guy

1:10:54

then they're not

1:10:57

the right man for this job oh

1:10:59

dear

1:11:00

the mission required a delicate touch

1:11:03

oh okay and as one as solder

1:11:05

it's acquaintances would later remarked

1:11:08

quote to attack or the sand a

1:11:10

fortress know better man

1:11:12

than stoddart can be found

1:11:15

the sisyphus are ,

1:11:17

the as sorry as

1:11:19

i possibly him the him

1:11:21

my my my

1:11:25

it for a diplomatic mission

1:11:27

requiring coolness and self

1:11:29

tomorrow and a ,

1:11:32

man to the process could

1:11:34

not residents have been messed with

1:11:37

a lot of a for you as a fucking hot

1:11:39

head and they send him on a diplomatic mission

1:11:41

to a foreign country with at

1:11:43

all powerful that

1:11:46

that leader who could give

1:11:48

two fucks about this guy got

1:11:50

it it didn't go great

1:11:52

though upon his arrival

1:11:55

to bakara in december of eighteen

1:11:57

thirty eight the immediately committed

1:12:00

that role diplomatic sopa

1:12:03

the begin with he rode through the main

1:12:05

square of the walled city in front

1:12:07

of the amir's castle on horseback

1:12:10

rather than walking which was

1:12:13

strictly forbidden have

1:12:15

nobody else is supposed to be on horseback within the

1:12:17

city other than the amir

1:12:20

yeah and like if he had just

1:12:22

had like local

1:12:24

guide it could have told him this

1:12:27

right if he had just done the

1:12:29

bare minimum of diplomatic

1:12:32

research due diligence the

1:12:34

diligence

1:12:36

furthermore when the emir himself

1:12:38

wrote out on horseback

1:12:40

the rules of the emirate

1:12:43

as he had he been aware of them would have made

1:12:45

clear that he was supposed to immediately

1:12:47

dismount his own horse because again only

1:12:49

be amir then be on horseback

1:12:52

right in front of other people

1:12:55

instead solder remained in

1:12:57

his saddle and saluted the a mirror

1:13:00

which was the custom

1:13:02

in britain then he gets was

1:13:04

like assuming that

1:13:07

him culture was right

1:13:09

medicare mine over answer oh

1:13:11

and the right where did you say that

1:13:13

other guys sucking land

1:13:17

finally sutter arrived

1:13:19

with no guests for the leader

1:13:21

which was also a deep insults

1:13:24

like the basics of diplomacy right

1:13:27

right yes it's the basics of you a

1:13:29

are you finding our house tired rare

1:13:32

even i know that bring a wink

1:13:34

why yeah grab line

1:13:38

the cupboard always have extra

1:13:40

wine on hand

1:13:42

true wing dot com a

1:13:46

bug to

1:13:48

no according to have written account of

1:13:50

this initial meeting the a mirror quote

1:13:53

looked at stoddart six that leave

1:13:55

for some time and then

1:13:57

passed on without saying

1:13:59

oh heard my

1:14:02

daughter who is whoring days

1:14:04

and then walked away i love

1:14:06

a withering game yikes

1:14:10

did not get better from there

1:14:13

you don't say

1:14:15

the when son or finally did gain an

1:14:17

audience with nasrallah and

1:14:20

handed him a letter of introduction

1:14:22

and a statement of the purpose of his visit

1:14:25

the a mere immediately took note

1:14:27

of the fact that this letter had not been signed

1:14:30

by queen victoria herself

1:14:33

and was again deeply insulted because

1:14:35

he's like i'm the setting

1:14:38

the of the world basically and

1:14:41

king you know interact

1:14:43

with fellow

1:14:45

the bought their level though i should be

1:14:47

getting a letter from your queen not

1:14:49

from you random ass second

1:14:51

lowly diplomat guy i

1:14:53

did this too right

1:14:56

like when you show up and they're like oh no i'm so

1:14:58

and so's assistant right eyebrow

1:15:01

was shared the message alberta yeah over

1:15:03

that email on your behalf right

1:15:05

the about her steiner was just

1:15:08

massively and are prepared

1:15:11

the commission flash not prepared at all

1:15:13

and like deeply name is

1:15:15

about the danger that he was walking into

1:15:17

he thought he would just stroll in there because he was british

1:15:20

and like generous people free the

1:15:22

the confidence of a mediocre

1:15:25

always so had he done

1:15:27

a bit more research on nasrullah

1:15:29

fun nickname

1:15:32

was the butcher

1:15:34

okay

1:15:36

it might have been enough to make him proceed

1:15:39

with greater caution natural

1:15:42

as official title

1:15:45

the shadow of god

1:15:47

up on earth incredible

1:15:49

guy

1:15:50

not provide much reassurance either

1:15:53

so basically it's like has such as

1:15:55

such so grossly at at like the

1:15:57

well as a writer welfare

1:16:00

and it gives me my next rabbit the

1:16:02

shadow of this is me so

1:16:05

sad

1:16:06

on earth we , shadow

1:16:08

for shard sad

1:16:11

instances as it my

1:16:15

that admitted oh

1:16:17

when he had a ,

1:16:19

of got a minor yeah

1:16:24

i am right now

1:16:27

please do that is that better

1:16:29

assess better assess and this emir

1:16:31

nasrallah had ascended to the throne

1:16:34

in eighteen twenty six after ordering the

1:16:36

murder of his own father and

1:16:38

his two older brothers nbd

1:16:41

they were in the way they were literally

1:16:45

a favorite is that they

1:16:47

were moving anyway right

1:16:51

now and i know is it exists

1:16:53

and then after he became

1:16:55

the emir after doing this

1:16:57

violent to like killing everybody

1:16:59

that was in front of him in line

1:17:02

than just to be saved he also had his

1:17:04

three younger brothers and like and

1:17:06

bunch of other relatives that could possibly

1:17:09

make a claim to the throne killed

1:17:11

or yeah seek out his entire like every

1:17:13

male and his family based on issue

1:17:16

wipe out the competition baby

1:17:18

is always bad as if a very

1:17:20

calm and saying also in like the ottoman

1:17:22

empire like a lot of like sultan's would

1:17:24

just like they allow of a man

1:17:26

yeah basically take out anybody who

1:17:28

could be competition for the throne rain and

1:17:31

hundred years iran and the night by the

1:17:33

like eighteen years of

1:17:35

oh i'm in a only i say on

1:17:37

start to get laid

1:17:40

anyway though the

1:17:42

was also the infamous

1:17:44

sleeve cruel leader

1:17:47

in one of his claims to same was

1:17:49

a twenty one foot deep

1:17:51

pit

1:17:52

hubbard by an iron grill

1:17:55

out and accessible only by a row

1:17:58

this is within the prison

1:18:00

lb behind his palace over yet

1:18:04

i didn't under one air watched ozark

1:18:06

on netflix

1:18:09

i don't doubt that now i haven't started

1:18:11

i know any till

1:18:12

it's so bad if an alien we've got a path

1:18:14

we've got torture we've got sound

1:18:16

of yeah i like ramen hair

1:18:19

rotherham at her

1:18:21

yeah on schedule a

1:18:23

bomb in there

1:18:24

her hair looks like ramen a number

1:18:27

of in timberlake dido it's supposed

1:18:30

ah it's gonna be may hair

1:18:32

and was the , of a man

1:18:35

so okay his subjects

1:18:37

referred to the pit as see i

1:18:39

saw which see ya

1:18:42

later

1:18:43

yeah that may be heard

1:18:49

ah he'll

1:18:52

be fine

1:18:54

a good

1:18:58

, this ,

1:19:00

is funny

1:19:01

ah shit man translates

1:19:05

, block well or black hole

1:19:07

oh biden i love that so

1:19:09

any let anyone

1:19:11

who displeased nasrallah was at

1:19:13

risk of being thrown into this pet which

1:19:16

would have been unpleasant enough on it's own

1:19:19

the

1:19:21

how much where i mean if hit

1:19:23

that i can throw people in who does please

1:19:26

write a buffalo gel

1:19:28

movement of the guy you

1:19:30

have really he grows window well

1:19:32

you'd either

1:19:33

making my peer yeah people

1:19:36

can fall into your pet cat they

1:19:38

are

1:19:40

a building my dear liar a permit to

1:19:42

build a pet may not

1:19:45

even a little birds and for electricity lines

1:19:48

yeah all before you dig

1:19:50

never never call before you dig

1:19:53

that a a pay phone

1:19:55

rape and way too many questions though

1:19:59

many fire

1:20:00

the about paul before you dig at like over

1:20:02

one thing but government really cares

1:20:04

about and never land laugh

1:20:06

i was , mad

1:20:10

you check i have the

1:20:12

bird the bird if

1:20:15

i get like a flyer like once

1:20:17

a month sabbatical once you this

1:20:19

sabbatical by my road right

1:20:23

okay so nasrullah

1:20:26

also ordered that the pit be kept

1:20:28

stocked with a variety of rodents

1:20:31

for an hour and others

1:20:33

stinging incest see little

1:20:35

often acts that snacks

1:20:38

for the road ends when apparently

1:20:40

far as ah actually

1:20:43

he did actually to say start

1:20:45

with max for the road and said we will get to

1:20:48

wow

1:20:49

the practice of using insects as torture

1:20:51

devices likely dates back to ancient

1:20:54

persia and has been practiced around

1:20:56

the world my guy but nasrullah

1:20:59

seems to have been of one of history's most

1:21:01

enthusiastic

1:21:03

the reactor practitioners of

1:21:05

this method bullets

1:21:07

the hair fully selected the insects

1:21:10

that would induce maximum pain

1:21:13

but not where scorpions

1:21:15

and existing including

1:21:17

one that called the assassin

1:21:19

that bug and i i

1:21:22

consider my island

1:21:25

the assassin bag is notable

1:21:27

for it's six curved be

1:21:30

yeah it would catch up pretty prices

1:21:32

the thought it only i love

1:21:34

yes i'm not a ,

1:21:37

tommy will pay tommy will penny it's

1:21:40

it's it's successes and we'll cross

1:21:42

again yeah okay

1:21:45

and that for the last

1:21:47

medically it's up there it's early on

1:21:51

okay well myself i am amazed

1:21:54

me these canyons early

1:21:56

go there was i was playing so

1:21:58

much edible trump

1:22:00

edison before bill and i like vo bought

1:22:02

a desert

1:22:04

piper that is out without play

1:22:06

get in bed

1:22:08

he's quietly era was watching

1:22:10

tv do whatever and i caught

1:22:12

a water bug and without even

1:22:14

exploiting eddie

1:22:16

the bible literally yelled this

1:22:18

will fetch a pretty prices are thought

1:22:22

i was like what

1:22:24

the fuck are three

1:22:27

six mafia had said pretty

1:22:29

proud that we bought a house

1:22:31

together that bow

1:22:34

plants are pretty far more

1:22:36

cases though they are

1:22:39

still people have an outback

1:22:40

now what is amanda it's i'm

1:22:42

japanese i just

1:22:45

was taken over by a spirit

1:22:49

okay to the assassin

1:22:51

bug where there are pictures

1:22:53

on the rise but rise don't know if

1:22:55

it's the same oh

1:22:57

i see like other bugs over the years have

1:22:59

been given that moniker so moniker don't know

1:23:01

if these guys i'm charging my mouth

1:23:04

anyways i will not be going

1:23:06

to die well they great

1:23:09

so this assassin bad that we're talking

1:23:11

about is notable for it's thick curve to

1:23:13

be used for piercing it's

1:23:15

prey and injecting a toxic

1:23:17

saliva that paralyzes

1:23:19

and kills other instead

1:23:22

and contains an enzyme

1:23:24

that liquid size the innards

1:23:27

of fray

1:23:28

that the assassin dog i can have them at

1:23:31

the liquid out

1:23:36

no i'm like wow

1:23:40

and then amiss in

1:23:42

one eye view it again when

1:23:46

when this bug bites of person

1:23:49

because people are fed right is

1:23:51

now i mean i don't normally liquefy lol

1:23:53

local iran little spot

1:23:55

yeah we had my neck when probably necrotizing

1:23:58

city the you and the fog okay

1:24:01

when you ever saw it in a i feel

1:24:03

a their family such like

1:24:05

intense the evil superpowers

1:24:08

cause they're all like this is a yeah

1:24:11

they're tiny through the yeah right the way they

1:24:13

and also a the answer to your question amanda

1:24:15

about animal crossing i would save discs

1:24:18

most closely resembles the violin

1:24:20

beetle but it's ah ny okay

1:24:22

you can be apparently it doesn't have the

1:24:25

long yeah okay how

1:24:27

exactly like amanda said seen

1:24:29

it

1:24:30

the that these insects don't typically

1:24:33

target humans because they

1:24:35

want to just like kill another

1:24:37

bug that's like record size for them

1:24:39

flowers are opposing forces that

1:24:41

lead up doubt the innards and then move

1:24:43

on with their day yep yep but when deprived

1:24:46

of their typical food sources they will feed

1:24:48

on any lies tissue

1:24:51

oh great

1:24:52

they're saying has been compared

1:24:54

to being purists with a hot needle

1:24:58

and the enzyme that they inject causes

1:25:00

separating the pores

1:25:04

and it oh yeah basically yes it'll

1:25:07

it'll cause the

1:25:09

little spot don't you die

1:25:12

in your body to sesar

1:25:14

to undergo the formation of path

1:25:17

yeah and pass and liquefy

1:25:19

and then it'll suck out from that spot and then

1:25:21

when it's hunger again and all it's finest spot

1:25:24

on nature is amazing so

1:25:27

nasrallah

1:25:29

made sure that the pits inhabitants

1:25:32

were well said unsung of raw meat

1:25:34

snack when

1:25:36

there was no human citizen or for them to

1:25:38

feast on less than

1:25:40

their tummies get a nice and hungry

1:25:43

get a new sub like

1:25:44

young for me yes yes and about or bad

1:25:47

soviet

1:25:49

then in say yeah and

1:25:51

dad don't worry there was usually prisoner for them

1:25:53

to feast on because he was very easily displeased

1:25:56

i mean say

1:25:59

so

1:26:00

this became the naive

1:26:02

start our it's say for

1:26:05

of sending the amir surviving

1:26:07

of allowances new apart set of

1:26:09

was you react

1:26:11

in it he is a fucking idiot it could have

1:26:13

been so

1:26:14

the a new i just googled

1:26:16

they actually for a ride is up

1:26:19

you owe me one know any

1:26:21

percent of a know of though

1:26:24

for

1:26:26

hot only he was sent to

1:26:28

free stoddart that

1:26:31

are spent three years

1:26:34

nasrallah as prisoner in

1:26:36

the past cycling through phases

1:26:39

of being in the leaders save our

1:26:41

and treated comparatively

1:26:43

well and like again not

1:26:46

an honored guest but a gas then

1:26:49

doing something to cause of san

1:26:52

many get thrown back in the bud pet

1:26:54

which is honestly worse than being

1:26:56

in the bud it gently

1:26:59

right for i'm betting that little bit

1:27:01

i get out early well

1:27:03

yeah but then then you're always afraid

1:27:06

that you're gonna be thrown back in the pit

1:27:09

you want to be an a in nasrallah

1:27:11

knew what he was jewish yeah

1:27:14

knew exactly what he was do a yeah

1:27:16

he i sometimes stoddart

1:27:19

was thrown into the pit not because of anything

1:27:21

he himself had done but

1:27:23

because nasrallah was upset by

1:27:25

some action that the british empire

1:27:28

had taken

1:27:29

oh yeah same one

1:27:31

that he was sentence up

1:27:33

at like

1:27:36

way i'm a moment

1:27:41

yeah the right

1:27:44

into that we

1:27:45

we're all as americans we will always

1:27:48

be in the pit ah now

1:27:50

imagine try and

1:27:52

my parents are blowing for the most problematic

1:27:56

no no let us you

1:27:59

know i let me an iguana

1:28:01

i had a real hard to say

1:28:03

in november go how's the how's that

1:28:08

wow

1:28:09

the worry about to jersey well today

1:28:12

only forty about that as a third place

1:28:20

i'd get a , of my

1:28:23

separating source from last time as

1:28:25

healed up up

1:28:27

pace yeah so about

1:28:30

the about satellites

1:28:32

may suggest and by the way overboard

1:28:35

sad being sword from the in

1:28:37

the shadow of god upon or yeah

1:28:40

the british the kind of the bare minimum

1:28:42

to try to get stoddart out during these

1:28:45

three years they

1:28:47

said several letters attempting

1:28:49

to get his release but because none

1:28:51

of them were signed by the queen

1:28:54

that , ignored them all

1:28:57

that and queen

1:28:59

the queen of ink the queen victoria

1:29:01

live and had to be fine bellic the bug when he didn't

1:29:04

the flag momma he belongs on with

1:29:06

your yeah

1:29:08

stoddart himself was occasionally allowed

1:29:10

to write letters and in one sense

1:29:13

economies shortly before his arrival

1:29:15

he wrote

1:29:16

the favor of the emir is increased

1:29:19

in these days towards me i

1:29:21

believe you will be treated well here

1:29:23

which is like totally hostage letter

1:29:26

i am being treated very well

1:29:28

cancer i

1:29:31

don't bother us

1:29:34

oh god are according to one source

1:29:37

how has it and in comprehensible

1:29:40

lack of political judgment as do

1:29:42

cpr your doors to say

1:29:44

that you can't be faulted for

1:29:46

a shortage of optimism and

1:29:52

a burn know

1:29:55

ah and i deploy as

1:29:57

much as a as a variable

1:30:00

in salt in a minute

1:30:04

at first he seems he might be right

1:30:06

so upon connelly's arrival both

1:30:08

men were treated fairly well finally

1:30:11

had like

1:30:12

yeah no the bare minimum of research

1:30:14

and didn't like immediately us and the emir

1:30:19

unfortunately for them britain soon

1:30:21

suffered a catastrophic strategic loss

1:30:23

in afghanistan

1:30:25

the king that connelly had helped

1:30:27

install their was overthrown

1:30:31

and so nasrallah surmise from this

1:30:33

that britain was no longer a military threat

1:30:35

to him because he was like well they just lost

1:30:38

next door so like how powerful

1:30:40

can they be a family and

1:30:43

so he had even less of a reason to treat

1:30:45

the diplomats well and also he had suffered

1:30:48

zero consequences from allowing

1:30:50

this will die in the bug it for three years

1:30:53

though i would i'd say whatever bugs

1:30:55

it is working out really

1:30:57

well no no

1:31:00

in addition tensions began heightening

1:31:02

between two car and it's neighbors and

1:31:04

the nasrullah blames finally

1:31:06

who had been traveling in the area and had visited

1:31:08

some of his enemies before

1:31:11

showing up

1:31:12

and he was like will you instigate

1:31:14

at these conflicts which is probably not true

1:31:16

but whenever he was kind of the state

1:31:19

and had a final straw for nasrallah came

1:31:21

when he learned that a recent letter he had said

1:31:23

to queen victoria

1:31:25

that instead been answered by the governor

1:31:27

general of india

1:31:29

then he was like fuck

1:31:31

and over you guys were i am the a mirror

1:31:34

i wrote a letter to the fucking queen she

1:31:36

that a week after reading yeah

1:31:39

she left me on random the

1:31:42

though enraged at the british empire

1:31:45

nasrallah turn his i are on the to

1:31:47

diplomats men were

1:31:49

thrown back into the bugs pit

1:31:51

well they spent the better part

1:31:53

of the next year know

1:31:56

having less less slow lead

1:31:58

nod off their body

1:32:00

oh my god that's

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with superior the repress

1:32:05

in time

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and imo

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i'm allergic

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the

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no advance follow mods have a

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lullaby a

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so is there a totally suck

1:32:23

air of arable suzanne

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in november eighteen forty two

1:32:29

rumors began to make their way home to britain

1:32:31

that connolly and stoddart have been executed

1:32:35

a group of friends of the two men began collecting

1:32:37

money to fund an expedition to find

1:32:39

out their fates once and for all i would

1:32:42

not have gone a

1:32:44

volunteer no way

1:32:47

if the to him by his head he heard

1:32:49

it like a foreign country under weird

1:32:51

circumstances like there might have been obliged

1:32:54

get involved at yeah i'm sorry

1:32:56

are a yeah yeah

1:32:58

your losses let it go

1:33:01

at some point i'll my young friend

1:33:04

i get it

1:33:05

the about for that some of the need

1:33:07

for as all the find plenty of back i'll

1:33:10

die line with your our making new friends you'll

1:33:12

be fine

1:33:13

a man named joseph walls and anglican

1:33:16

priest was chosen to makes his journey

1:33:18

to blue car because again

1:33:20

british fucking cultural blinders

1:33:22

they thought like well he's an anglican

1:33:25

priest so they have to respect him but

1:33:27

like that means fucking nothing

1:33:29

yeah to these two oh right people

1:33:33

i might start he fully understood

1:33:35

the danger of his mission and did as much

1:33:37

research as he could on the a mirror

1:33:39

and on because local customs before

1:33:41

he showed up

1:33:43

having learned that a visitor was expected

1:33:45

to bows three times upon meeting

1:33:47

the a mirror well saying in arabic

1:33:49

peace be to the king the memorize

1:33:52

this phrase and did exactly that

1:33:55

in fact he was so nervous that he bowed

1:33:57

continuously like more than three times

1:34:00

i just kept repeating the phrase

1:34:02

until the emir and lasted over

1:34:04

at office and last time the does

1:34:06

appear like , know

1:34:08

i i saw you know

1:34:10

like three of them seem like enough i'm just gonna

1:34:12

it's like parmesan you just tell me when

1:34:19

a pretty banged up it's absolute that's

1:34:21

a key or me off the ground from

1:34:23

my bow your

1:34:27

bag would start to act as true

1:34:30

i'm by boeing and in my mind's

1:34:32

eye ballet are you the other

1:34:35

the was made a good not impression

1:34:37

on the mercurial leader that he was

1:34:40

given permission to meet with the cars commander

1:34:42

of the artillery who had also been

1:34:44

daughter and connelly's jailer

1:34:48

and to receive a first hand account of

1:34:50

their fate

1:34:51

the commander describes a wolf how

1:34:54

connelly and stoddart had spent two full

1:34:56

months in the bug pit hello

1:35:00

the masses of their flesh

1:35:02

had been nod off their bones

1:35:04

no no also like

1:35:08

oh yeah the the fact that they survived

1:35:10

is actually fucking incredible eventually

1:35:14

nasrallah had ordered the man be removed

1:35:16

from the pit and be headed

1:35:18

the only a point to explain we have larry's

1:35:20

executioner employee would be more

1:35:22

humane than those carried out in neighboring

1:35:25

kingdoms because quote strangling

1:35:27

gives more pain and the rascal

1:35:30

kind of kiva strangled

1:35:33

his people and

1:35:35

therefore out of mercy

1:35:38

high command the heads of the evil

1:35:40

doers to be cut off with a common

1:35:43

nice i would rather and that

1:35:45

have happened

1:35:47

the morning years earlier earth

1:35:49

before the bad pretty

1:35:52

bad

1:35:53

yeah but this idea of like be

1:35:55

heading up being an easier

1:35:57

form of execution than like hanging

1:36:00

or some other form carried

1:36:02

on into like

1:36:03

cuter fuck in england like that's why

1:36:06

and the land was beheaded and not

1:36:08

hanged wow yeah

1:36:10

i mean in a lot of is probably

1:36:12

most circumstances it was because

1:36:15

being hanged as we know can

1:36:17

take a while

1:36:18

yeah i'll take a while back myself as

1:36:20

a form of torture like why

1:36:22

a lot of people who sell a one other thing that

1:36:24

i read when my torture

1:36:26

notes instead of hanging

1:36:29

, regularly like your feet down

1:36:32

there they'll protect contraption

1:36:35

that actually like shot you up

1:36:37

in the air it was like reverse

1:36:39

hanging oh my website and

1:36:41

have a secure you faster but it's super

1:36:43

did not like a bungee

1:36:46

jumping alma a horrible yeah

1:36:48

it's like but

1:36:50

hanging

1:36:52

you know can hurt my daughter but like

1:36:55

wife lucy said about the stay fit them

1:36:57

like it's also rumored to have happened

1:36:59

but there's less evidence of that but like the milk

1:37:02

and honey and then the diarrhea

1:37:04

and then the bugs the bugs

1:37:09

so connelly and starts clarifying

1:37:12

or deal came to an end on june fourth

1:37:14

eighteen forty two when they were beheaded

1:37:16

in the public square

1:37:18

the official charge against them was spying

1:37:21

for the british empire

1:37:23

and the anglican guy get

1:37:25

got the news and got out of there oh

1:37:27

i'm

1:37:28

rabbi yeah i

1:37:31

agree about his hometown was like yes

1:37:33

very

1:37:34

gotta did the right thing

1:37:36

gotta thing gotta bye

1:37:38

i put on a heart attack saw that today

1:37:40

i'm cyber on

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