Greg Jenner is joined by guests Prof Emily Bernard and comedian Toussaint Douglass in 19th century America to meet the remarkable Frederick Douglass. From heartbreaking beginnings, Frederick fought on to become a famed abolitionist, orator, writer and statesman who broke racial barriers in government and dedicated his life to fighting for the freedom of all people.

Research by Anna-Nadine Pike and Jess WhiteWritten by Emma Nagouse, Anna-Nadine Pike and Greg JennerProduced by Emma Nagouse and Greg JennerAssistant Producer: Emmie Rose Price-GoodfellowProject Management: Isla MatthewsAudio Producer: Steve Hankey

You’re Dead To Me is a production by The Athletic for BBC Radio 4.