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Introducing Five and Nine Live!Following up on Episode 4.07. Awakening the Healer, we present our very first live podcast recording — a special episode for Season 4 recorded live at the Center for the Enlightenment Arts in Bushwick, Brooklyn, a
“I was always the busy one,” says our guest Hana of her life before COVID lockdowns. In this final interview of Season 4, we talk about the power of being by oneself, how it feels to jump back into a familiar line of work, and the importance of
Symbolic language is at the heart of magic and also at the heart of human expression. In this minisode, Five and Nine joins Adelle Lin, an artist and technologist who explores the poetry of water and the Arabic, Chinese and Hebrew languages in
This is Five and Nine, a podcast and newsletter at the crossroads of magic, work and economic justice. We’re in the midst of Season 4, recorded online and on location in the Wadi Rum Desert in Jordan, but we wanted to take a brief look back at
It’s the still of winter here in the northern hemisphere as the solstice arrives, and we just have a few more episodes of Season 4 left.In this bonus minisode, Season 4 co-hosts Britt Pham and Nour Batyne of One of Many Studio offer a meditatio
What does it feel like to awaken to a new calling? Artist, art producer, and art historian Helen Banach sits down with us to talk about embodying these multiple labels alongside her newest one — healer. We travel to March 2020, when she became
Following up on Episode 4.06. The Turtles and the Stars: An Interview with AX Mina ✨🐢✨🐢, we present a talk from Five and Nine’s AX Mina about magic and pluralistic futures, given earlier this year at re:publica in Berlin. Mina examines the us
In this minisode, One of Many Studio’s Britt Pham and Nour Batyne interview a familiar voice — AX Mina (Ana), your host for Season 4 and a co-founder at Five and Nine. They discuss the meaning of stars, the many jackets we wear in our professio
In this minisode, Five and Nine joins Azad, an artist, healer and “forever cheerleader,” who’s working on a kite to fly in the desert winds of Wadi Rum. We tune in to the element of air in particular, an important one in tarot, which shows up i
When it feels like everything is lost, how do we find guidance? In this incredibly difficult and painful week, we’ve been seeking wisdom, prayer and spiritual guidance. As we get ready to return to Season 4, we wanted to take a step back with a
We’re going on vacation here at Five and Nine, and before we do, we wanted to share an offering in the form of a bonus episode.“Just notice what’s alive in your body today.” These wise words will guide you in this beautiful meditation from Brit
In this minisode, Five and Nine joins One of Many Studio’s Nour Batyne and Britt Pham to sit in on a Bedouin coffee ceremony. Sipping from their cups around the virtual campfire, we talk about the magic, work and economic justice of the little
What does it mean to live through a crisis? Season 4 continues in the heat of day, when the desert falls to silence.Writer and artist Cher-Wen DeWitt talks about her many careers, the allure of other people’s problems, and the changing nature o
What waters do you come from? Why is Season 4 set in Wadi Rum? And what does it mean to be a future ancestor? In this minisode, we sit down with One of Many Studio (OoM) co-founders Nour Batyne and Britt Pham to learn more about their ambitious
Season 4 starts off with a desert quest: find the Lovers Cave, a special cave in Wadi Rum fabled to heal relationship ills. We join photographer Farah Foudeh, whose photo illustrates this podcast, in her yellow Jeep for an off-road drive around
Happy Solstice, everyone.Five and Nine Season 4 is about crisis. It’s our first field studio season, with the majority of our episodes recorded from the beautiful Wadi Rum desert in Jordan, thanks to a special artist residency hosted by One of
A month ago, artist and creative technologist M Eifler was laid off from their job, one of nearly 200,000 layoffs this year alone. M discusses the uncertainty and anxiety they’ve experienced since the layoff and shares how they have been using
Please note: This episode contains slightly more adult content than usual. Listeners should also be advised of an inordinate amount of puns, giggles, and wisdom about human relationships.As a sex worker, community organizer, and public health r
Futures thinker, artist and creative producer Nour Batyne reminds us to slow down to the speed of presence. The future is not just space travel and new technology but the legacy we leave as future ancestors. We'll hear from Nour how she decided
What lessons does the dream world hold for each of us in our waking lives? Artist and dream explorer Amira-Sade Moodie takes host Xiaowei R. Wang on a live dream exploration, teaching us along the way how to build dream circles of our own. We l
Five years ago, technologist, artist and financial analyst Victoria Ku suffered a period of burnout that left her medicated and emotionless. By finding rest and setting new boundaries, she started building a life for herself that’s both nourish
This is Five and Nine, a podcast and newsletter at the crossroads of magic, work and economic justice. Welcome to Season 3, Episode 1. You can find us on Apple, Spotify, Google and Instagram.Enjoying the show? Consider buying us a virtual cup o
Creative Director and Co-Director of Magic Xiaowei Wang returns for our season finale!We talk union solidarity, life in a time of crisis, and our upcoming class on tarot and writing with The Shipman Agency. Dorothy breaks out the Modus Operandi
Over a year ago, Chicanx futurist artist Ruben Briseño Reveles grappled with a choice: either his job or his mental health and well-being. He decided to make a leap into a new life when he left his restaurant job of 20 years. His is one of many
When we talk about diversity, equity, and inclusion work, where do ancestral lineages fit in? What does wellness look like in a culture that celebrates overworking ourselves at the expense of our bodies? Five and Nine talks with Kim Acebo Atech
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