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3:30

All right, so let's

3:32

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3:35

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3:38

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3:42

of the recording of this I M Rappaport

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Stereo podcast, and things changed quickly

3:46

in the NBA. As we know, Lebron

3:50

James and his Cleveland Cavaliers

3:53

are down three to two against

3:56

the Boston Celtics in the Eastern

3:59

Conference NBA Championship.

4:03

If they lose one more game, now, correct

4:05

me if I'm wrong. Moody,

4:08

correct me if I'm wrong. If they lose one

4:10

more game, what happens. I'm

4:12

just asking a question. Don't want to get you get you

4:14

all rolled up, but just if they

4:16

do lose one more game, what happens elimination.

4:20

Okay, he looked very tired.

4:25

Yeah, wouldn't you be I'd be exhausted.

4:27

But listen, these

4:31

are his guys. That's his coach, it's

4:33

his offensive system. Everything

4:35

runs through Lebron James. He's

4:37

got Tyler there. We don't know if this guy can

4:40

coach or not. Lebron James

4:42

is a superior basketball

4:44

mind, he's a superior player. But

4:46

listen, everybody has their floors. Maybe

4:49

his flaw is who he picks to be teammates.

4:52

Maybe maybe he shouldn't be coached by

4:54

a guy who he's that close with, Mr

4:56

tylu Maybe maybe that's

4:58

not the way things should be. Maybe

5:01

there should be a separation between church

5:03

and state, just like the separation between player

5:05

and coach. What do I know? I

5:08

know this, I will say this. That

5:11

guy after the game game uh

5:13

five Miles played

5:15

the clip. I know you have a way that you measure

5:18

turnovers if they're aggressive

5:20

or bad turnovers? Seven the other

5:22

night and six tonight? Where are you with with? That's

5:25

an unusual high number for you. How many of them

5:27

are unfortunate? How many of them can you live? Um? I

5:29

had two turnovers where I felt like there were just um,

5:32

really bad. My first turnover, I

5:34

tried to I saw something happening, and uh,

5:37

Marcus did a good job. Marcus Moore's did a great job

5:39

of reading it. Threw it up ahead to Calf he

5:41

picked it off. Um.

5:44

My second turnover, I went baseline, lost

5:47

lost my foot on Marcus Morris. Another turnover.

5:49

Um, a couple of them want

5:52

to transition to Jeff Green. I thought, I, you

5:54

know, put it on his hands and he kind of fumbled it.

5:56

Um. I wish I can have that one back and maybe bounced

5:58

past that one. How the back door I wanted

6:01

to switch hit his hands. Maybe

6:03

should have not thrown that when there's a little bit in traffic.

6:05

Our Horford was right there, but it hit switched hands. But

6:08

maybe you should have took that one back. Um.

6:11

I had a post up on Terry Rozier. They came in Peyton

6:14

from the bottom side of that means painting means

6:16

they double from the baseline. Sorry, guys,

6:19

um and Jayson Tatum got his hands

6:21

on him and I had a guy wide open. I should have faked hied

6:24

through a low And my

6:26

last turnover was just very very careless

6:28

on Terry Rozier, we had a pick and roll, I got to switch

6:30

and I just lost it out of bounce on the other side of

6:32

the air, um away from

6:35

there um basket. So

6:37

that's my six turnovers. I think out of those

6:39

six, maybe three of them was just careless.

6:42

I think the other three were attack turnovers. And I'm okay with

6:44

that. He was asked after the

6:46

game about his turnovers,

6:49

and with without checking any paper,

6:51

without looking down, without batting an eye, without

6:53

preparing for a test, this fucking

6:56

beast, this robot, Lebron

6:58

James was able to reset in detail

7:01

every single one of

7:03

his turnovers. Like, this

7:06

guy's mind is on some other

7:08

ship, and some people are like

7:10

the people get confused when I compliment

7:13

him ge. They get well, I thought you

7:15

hate him, I go, don't, don't hate him, You've

7:18

calm down. I don't hate him. I

7:20

want them to fucking lose. I

7:22

want him to lose. People think it's like

7:25

a it's a personal thing. They don't want

7:27

to hear that from you. You you're

7:29

dissing him one time. Nobody

7:32

want to hear that from you, Like

7:34

nobody want to hear you praising Lebron

7:36

after you after you dragged them down.

7:39

So of course they're gonna come at you like that. It's

7:42

not retracted,

7:44

But but I said what I said, But I'll retracted.

7:46

Keep it on record, keep it in the podcast. You

7:48

heard the clip. The guy's a fucking roboties on

7:50

some Rainman Dustin Hoffman, Tom

7:52

Cruise Ship. Nobody wants to hear it.

7:54

I'll keep my I'll keep my compliments to myself.

7:57

Yeah, yeah, you're throwing dirt on the grave,

7:59

but you don't know what the outcome of the next

8:01

game is gonna be. And considering

8:05

the caliber of player we're talking about,

8:07

I think you should shut the funk up with this guy.

8:10

Man, Okay, no

8:12

problem, no problem. Um

8:18

until the bell

8:20

sounds and maybe he's lost,

8:23

then you could say ship. But don't count this dude

8:25

out. You did that before and they won the champions

8:27

Okay, I just just listen. I'm

8:30

here to present the news. Okay.

8:32

I don't mean to get you all riled up. I could tell you're

8:34

a little nervous. It's okay, it's okay.

8:37

I can't I tried to compliment the guy and then

8:39

and then you jumped down my throat. Yeah, nobody

8:41

want to hear that from you. Western

8:43

Conference finals. We have a series. Houston

8:46

is now up three games to two.

8:50

It's very interesting, it's very competitive.

8:52

I thought it was gonna be easier for the Warriors.

8:55

It hasn't been. We're gonna see how that

8:57

plays itself out. Um

9:00

and I don't know. We have

9:02

a jam packed I am Rappaport Memorial

9:05

Day episode. As

9:08

I told you, Uh, offensive

9:10

lineman, this guy talks

9:13

ship. This guy's got stories. He's

9:15

a pro bowler. He plays for the Oakland

9:17

Raiders, played for John Gruden

9:20

in Tampa Bay, is

9:22

now playing for John Gruden and Oakland.

9:25

Offensive lineman. He protects the blindside

9:29

of a hundred million dollar

9:31

man, the quarterback Derek Carr.

9:34

He blocks for Marshawn Lynch.

9:37

He's a good dude, a thoughtful dude,

9:39

and he loves to talk shit. All

9:41

kinds of stories about playing football. And this

9:44

is just a great interview with

9:46

de Donald Penn coming up later in

9:48

the episode. UM.

9:50

Recurring recurring theme of the Iron Rapports

9:53

stereo podcast chicken Head Tommy Loren,

9:56

Oh what happened now? Chickenhead

9:59

Tommy Loren? Was that a restaurant? And

10:01

I believe Minnesota, if you've never listened

10:03

to the iron rapports stereo pockets. You know that we do

10:05

not fact check, but I believe she

10:07

was in Minnesota, Um huh.

10:10

And while she was in a restaurant, a woman

10:13

started verbally abusing

10:15

her. You have to use that words, not just calling her a piece

10:17

of ship. You have to say verbal abuse. And

10:20

then she splashed her with some water. You

10:23

see, that's dumb ship. Yeah, I as

10:25

much as I don't support that, because you know

10:28

that could turn into a whole thing. Yeah,

10:31

you know, you never know how she's gonna react

10:33

on somebody else is can react how another that

10:36

that's not okay. As much as I don't like

10:38

her, and I think she's just a like

10:40

just an upgraded cheerleader, and

10:43

and she's not a critical thinker, and

10:45

and she she doesn't even give a critical

10:47

thoughts to the president, who we all know is flawed.

10:51

She doesn't give any sort of bias nous.

10:53

It's just I want to suck him off. I

10:55

want to suck him off. I want to suck him off. She's

10:57

not saying that, but that's basically the

11:00

way she talks, like he could do no wrong.

11:02

Even his wife isn't as

11:05

unbiased as she is. But

11:08

I don't support walking up on people and

11:10

throwing water on people that

11:12

you don't know and doing

11:15

that. Why why why are they doing that?

11:17

If these are the people that are about tolerance

11:20

and and diversity, why

11:23

are you attacking her just for her words?

11:25

She's out, You're throwing water on her, and

11:28

and for what? For what? But

11:30

you but your to motherfucker with the tolerance

11:32

and oh we're compassion. But it's

11:35

the opposite because there's no

11:37

need to do that. She has

11:39

her opinion and you have yours. So

11:42

why you gotta assault the person? You see

11:44

what I'm saying, that's that's bullshit.

11:46

I agree, I agree. Um,

11:50

this prompted the president of the United

11:52

States, the

11:55

President of the United States, after this happened,

11:58

he came out and defended

12:01

Tommy loren She she's

12:03

great, we love her, we appreciate

12:06

her, we respect her. And and

12:08

this is why Donald's Trump Dick Stain Donald

12:10

Trump, as he had better known

12:12

as Dick Sain, Donald Trump, why

12:15

I think you're a fucking joke. Uh

12:17

what why are you talking about some lackluster,

12:21

unskilled, uh

12:25

chicken head? Like, well, why is this even

12:27

why do you even know about her? But this is this

12:29

is this is what he does. He tweeted

12:31

his support for Tommy right now after she got

12:33

splashed with a little bit of water. Um,

12:36

a little bit. It wasn't like somebody

12:39

did like an ice bucket challenge. I hit it with a little

12:41

little dows So you know, you you walk in

12:43

a restaurant and you walk somewhere and you

12:45

got your views, and motherfucker's attack

12:48

you. If she if she was really from the

12:50

street, if it was some street ship, that woman

12:52

would have got to ask kicked for that. But you can't

12:54

do that to people because you disagree with her

12:56

or whatever. You get your ass kicked for

12:58

that, because why are you doing that?

13:01

I agree? But but but uh, I

13:04

don't know why Donald Trump is such

13:06

a big fan that he had to send out a tweet

13:08

about her. She

13:10

needed to support um. I

13:13

wanted to ask you and ask a question

13:15

to the fans. Do you think that

13:18

Tommy Loren informer ESPN

13:21

broadcast there, they're like the same person.

13:24

They have unwavering, a

13:26

relentless support of all

13:29

things Donald Trump. Britt McHenry

13:31

remember her, she got fired from from

13:33

uh ESPN. I

13:36

call her chicken head Brit. She

13:38

has the same colored teeth

13:40

and the same bleach

13:43

blonde hair is Tommy Loren Do

13:45

you think that they are related? And

13:47

and do you think that the color of

13:49

their teeth should be called hooded

13:51

white or old right

13:54

white. I wanted to pose that to you. Uh,

13:57

No, they're not, They're not related, and

14:00

I would I would go for a hooded white. I like

14:02

that. That's kind of clever. Hooded white,

14:04

hooded white. Okay. Uh.

14:07

The the NFL news is

14:08

is is you know, with the with the

14:11

protests and the fines, um,

14:13

the Jets owner and the San Francisco owner,

14:15

um basically are not

14:18

in support of what the NFL did.

14:20

They have come out and said they will pay all fines

14:23

for their players that are divvied

14:25

out for these penalties

14:28

if you peacefully protest the flag.

14:31

This conversation is going to this

14:33

is gonna be the main conversation until

14:35

the playoffs during

14:37

the NFL season. Yeah,

14:39

who's in the locker room, who didn't, who

14:42

stayed, Who's who's anti this? It's

14:44

gonna be it's gonna be terrible. But

14:46

the owners drew a line in the

14:48

sand without the consultation of the

14:50

players. That lets you know that

14:53

they're saying we don't give a fuck. This

14:55

is our league and this is what it's going to

14:57

be. So they set the policy and

14:59

that's what it is now. So I'd

15:01

say, I'd say take the grievance to

15:04

where Like I said the last podcast,

15:06

take the grievance. If the issue is police, let's

15:09

go to the justice department, let's go to the

15:11

local precincts, let's do whatever. But

15:14

you're not gonna do that in a in the

15:16

workplace, in the stadium. They're not gonna allow

15:18

you to do that. Well, Dick Stain,

15:20

Donald Trump said,

15:22

uh that maybe these players

15:25

shouldn't be allowed to play, Maybe they shouldn't

15:27

be employed, Maybe they

15:30

shouldn't live in this country. This is

15:32

again, Dick Stain, Donald Trump the draft

15:34

dodger, and now

15:36

he's Mr American. He got drafted

15:39

and he avoided the draft at all costs.

15:41

Now he's Mr American. That

15:45

is that is true? Um, yeah,

15:47

he's saying these people shouldn't live in live in

15:50

the United States. Uh, maybe they should,

15:52

maybe they shouldn't leave. He suggested they shouldn't

15:54

live here. This is why, uh,

15:56

this is why I can't funk with him, because

15:59

you know what he saying. He's saying, Oh,

16:01

if you don't like the flag, you don't want you don't like the country,

16:04

maybe shouldn't be here. Well he maybe I

16:06

don't think he likes the flag, and I don't think he likes the country

16:08

because when he got drafted, he didn't go pose

16:12

it back to him. That's what somebody should do, pose

16:14

it back. That's real journalism. Maybe you

16:17

don't like the flag, dis country

16:19

here because when you had the ultimate honor

16:22

to do the ultimate support of your

16:24

country, you had Papa

16:26

right. They need us in the press row because

16:29

we would throw that question at him. Well what

16:31

about you? Maybe

16:33

you don't like it so much? Now

16:36

I wanted to throw this at you. This guy I

16:38

some people suggested that he's a sick funk of the week.

16:43

We being the critical thinkers at

16:45

the I N Wrapports stereo podcast, home

16:48

of the most disruptive podcasts in the world.

16:52

We know Lenny dike Stra as

16:54

a New York Met. I don't know him personally. I've never met

16:57

Lenny Dikestra. He's a New York

16:59

Met. He's a character or he's had a crazy

17:01

life. Uh he you

17:04

know, obviously had some drug issues. He's

17:06

made a fortune after playing baseball.

17:09

Then he gotten dieted that it was like illegal,

17:11

like through some you know, Wall Street scamming

17:14

all this stuff. Okay, he's

17:16

considered a hide head. He's he's way out

17:18

there. The

17:21

other day he was in an Uber. Now

17:23

we have spoken repetitively

17:26

about being in Uber's and

17:28

how these guys they don't leave you alone,

17:31

and how the Uber drivers they don't shut

17:33

the funk up and they don't mind their business. So,

17:37

while in an Uber car in

17:40

the Tri State area in New York, I

17:42

think it was in Queens, might have been in Manhattan

17:44

going to Jersey, Lenny

17:47

Dikstra asked the Uber

17:49

driver to change the address

17:51

of where he was going. Apparently

17:54

the Uber driver refused. Um.

17:58

I guess you're supposed to do it through the app. Um.

18:01

Also, the Uber driver is not supposed to

18:04

talk or have bad breath. That should

18:06

be a rule. Yeah, it

18:09

should be a basic rule. How are you should

18:11

be the only thing? Thank you for driving me

18:14

should be the second thing, and and

18:16

and chewing gum should be mandatory

18:18

while you're on the job at Uber. You should be forced.

18:21

It should be a part of the job policy that

18:23

you chew gum. When a passenger is

18:25

in your car. Correct, Absolutely

18:28

no talking. There's no need to talk.

18:31

Your job is to drive me to

18:33

my destination. I don't care what

18:36

where you're from. I don't care where you're from,

18:39

how long you've been driving, how much you enjoy

18:41

being a driver, any of it. This

18:44

is not a blind date that where. This is

18:46

a service business. And if you are

18:49

driving me, keep a piece

18:51

of mint gum whatever brand you

18:53

want in your mouth. I

18:56

don't want to smell your breath in the entire

18:58

car. You smell like shit. That

19:01

being said, Lenny Dikeser was in the car.

19:03

He got into a beef with the with the Uber driver.

19:05

Apparently he pulled the gun on the

19:07

Uber driver. The police were called.

19:10

They they found the gun, they found

19:12

some weed, they found some ecstasy,

19:14

and they found some of that booger sugar.

19:18

Oh man, Lenny

19:22

Dicher is back in trouble. But I'm

19:24

thinking this, this whole thing could have been

19:26

inspired by a yappie,

19:28

nosy Uber

19:31

driver that could have pushed poor Lenny

19:33

Dikesher over the edge. Am I being

19:35

too compassionate? I wanted to see what you thought,

19:37

Mr moody Man. It's funked

19:39

up to know that Lenny is still skiing

19:41

out there's still wild. But man,

19:44

you're you're your own point where you're not You're

19:46

you're right where you need to be. Just

19:49

funked up from a man Lenny d Man to be still

19:51

skiing out there, man, damn skiing.

19:55

Um. The Internet Twitter

19:58

is some garbage. Uh.

20:00

The actress Rebel Wilson, who's

20:03

funny. She always plays the fat

20:05

girl. I'm that this is what the role she

20:07

plays. She makes jokes about her weight. Uh,

20:10

when she's in character, she makes jokes about her

20:13

weight out of character. Okay,

20:15

that's part of her brand, being like the chubby,

20:18

funny girl. I

20:20

like her. I think she's a she's a good Actress's a funny

20:22

actress. The Internet, mainly

20:25

Twitter, because this is where all like all all the all

20:27

the real bullshit happens, accused

20:31

other people of

20:34

fat shaming this

20:36

actress, Rebel Wilson. Rebel

20:40

Wilson then said no, I

20:42

was not fat shamed, and

20:44

then Twitter and the Internet

20:47

started to argue with

20:50

Rebel Wilson whether or not she had

20:52

in fact been fat shamed.

20:54

She basically saying, I have no problem what they said.

20:57

I don't care what they said. I don't consider it fat

20:59

shame. And then people started arguing with

21:02

her about how she should feel about

21:04

people commenting on her wake. This

21:06

is this is where we're at now. This is that sucker

21:09

ship. This is what they do

21:11

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21:13

me telling me how bad it

21:15

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I am wrapper. I mean like in their

21:45

soul, they're bitch made

21:48

in their soul. They are just grieving

21:51

and just wallowing in their guilt.

21:55

I I don't I don't understand it. She said.

21:57

I have no problem with what they say. I'm comfortable

21:59

in my skin. I'm comfortable with the comments. I

22:01

don't feel like I got fat changed. And then people

22:03

are trying to say that yes you did, blah

22:06

blah blah, blah blah. She

22:09

doesn't feel that way. You can't make her. It's

22:11

like they're bullying or you're thinking crazy.

22:13

Man. Yeah, that's

22:16

how they'd come at you. Man the Calvary

22:18

on on Twitter. And

22:21

since you're in the acting, you're still you know, in acting

22:24

category. I want to quote Biggie

22:26

Smalls on this guy. Uh

22:28

he he will be more gone

22:30

than Freeman. Morgan

22:34

Freeman, it's over.

22:37

Well, from from what I've read, this is the

22:39

beginning of the end. And uh

22:42

it seems like they're witnesses. These things were

22:44

done in public. So to quote

22:46

Biggie Smalls, you'll be more gone

22:48

than Freeman. It's over. Be it's Morgan

22:51

Freeman, one of the most respected, uh

22:53

successful movie stars

22:56

of the last twenty years, has been accused

22:59

of sexual harassment uh

23:02

verbally by eight

23:04

women witnesses. There's

23:07

witnesses. There are people co signing.

23:09

It was a whole investigation. You

23:12

know, it's it's too soon to

23:14

to speak on it. You know, there's been rumors about

23:16

Morgan Freeman and his step granddaughter

23:19

or his granddaughter. I don't know for

23:21

years. Easy Reader. Easy Reader

23:23

is gone from the Electric company.

23:26

He is gone. Let me tell you let me

23:28

let me read the epitaph. This motherfucker is

23:30

gone. Man. I read that ship on CNN

23:33

and they have witnesses and it was said

23:36

a lot of a lot of greasy ship was said in

23:38

public. Yo. He

23:40

knew it when all this ship was going down with these

23:42

other cats, he knew the other shoe was

23:44

gonna drop for him. It's just a matter of time,

23:47

and here we are. It ain't over. I

23:50

am. I'm not gonna say names, but it is not over.

23:53

It's bad to be famous, man at

23:55

this time. It's bad to be a

23:57

star. Man. You don't know, yo,

24:00

You don't know what these motherfucker's You know, they

24:02

could take you, misconstruing

24:04

you saying hello or you look

24:06

nice. They could just turn that ship around and

24:09

your your ship is over. Legacy

24:12

ruined everything, and

24:14

it's just man bucked

24:17

out. Man, um

24:20

miles, let me get a siren. Yeah,

24:23

that's it, because we we gotta stick Man

24:25

alert. We we we got

24:27

a stick Man alert.

24:30

This this guy just went from stick

24:32

man obscurity to

24:34

the stick Man hole

24:37

of fame Brazilian soccer

24:39

legends. I know, I

24:41

don't know. I'm not gonna pronounce his name correctly. They

24:44

call him Ronaldo, let's just call him

24:46

Ronaldo or Ronald Dino.

24:48

I'll just say Ronaldo so I don't keep screwing it up.

24:51

Listen, if if, if, if you follow sports, you you've

24:54

seen him. He's like one of the greatest soccer players of

24:56

all time. Went from stick man

24:58

obscurity right into

25:00

the stick Man Hall of fame. My

25:03

man married and

25:07

they're all aware and all they're

25:10

all in sync. Two

25:12

days ago, he married

25:15

his two fiances in

25:17

a private ceremony in

25:19

Rio Dijon narrow. I

25:22

love money. I love this, dude, Yo,

25:26

this is this is game. They're

25:29

totally in sync. The girls are happy,

25:31

Ronaldo is happy. They are starting

25:34

a family. I

25:36

don't know what to say, like, Yo, my man, Yo,

25:40

this is straight P I m P

25:42

straight stick man ship. And to

25:45

be clear, as stickman is not an ear irresponsible

25:48

fuck. A stickman is

25:50

one who does it in silence, does it

25:52

with class. There's no complaints.

25:55

Everything is above board. My

25:57

man has been quietly skating for

26:00

twenties something years. He's from Brazil.

26:02

He's a worldwide star. He's an international

26:05

soccer playing star. He

26:08

decided to settle down with not one but

26:11

two of his fiance's. They had a private

26:13

ceremony. What can I say?

26:16

I love this dude. And that

26:20

is not unusual on this planet,

26:22

only like only in America, like

26:25

like certain societies. But that's the norm

26:28

for men to have more than

26:30

one uh wife.

26:32

So yo, that's what it is

26:35

on the planet. That's the that's the norm.

26:38

Here it's different.

26:40

But YO, shout out to my man.

26:43

What's what's his name? Ronaldo? He put

26:45

it down. Man put it. Shout

26:47

out to the women, and shout out to those women

26:50

that said, you know what we accrue.

26:52

It's all of us, and and and good luck

26:54

to to your family and the rest

26:56

of your life. However you want to do

26:58

it as unconventional as some people might find

27:00

it. Uh do you Ronaldo

27:05

too too? And they and they with it, and

27:08

and everybody's cool. You know that's the norm

27:10

around the world. Just you know, in certain societies,

27:12

it's not not tolerated,

27:15

all right. Next, the

27:18

Charles Oakley New York Knicks James

27:20

Dolan saga continues, Um,

27:23

you know we rocked with oak till

27:25

the wheels fall off. Video footage

27:28

has surfaced. Surveillance footage

27:31

from the garden the incident that happened with

27:33

Oakley and the security guards

27:35

when they approached him. There's footage

27:37

showing the security guards talking to Dolan

27:41

and then Dolan sending them over to Oakley

27:43

and then giving him the thumbs up like

27:45

like this whole thing was like yo, go

27:47

go get him, go get him out of here. And

27:49

Oakley has said this from the beginning. And he wasn't doing

27:51

anything wrong. They said, he might

27:53

have been a little of inebriating, but if he didn't do anything wrong,

27:56

he didn't do anything wrong. We

27:58

we stand with oak rock with oak

28:01

of course, we have the Buttersoft Iron Wrappers

28:03

stereo podcast. Charles

28:05

Oakley, King of New York T shirt oak

28:08

is standing firm.

28:11

He will he he has filed a defamation

28:13

and discrimination suit against

28:16

the Garden and Dolan, And

28:18

this footage apparently makes

28:21

things look good for for our guy,

28:23

Charles Oakley's case, and uh,

28:25

you know, it's just more disruption for

28:28

the New York Knicks. Uh. This never should

28:30

have happened. Uh, he's the consummate

28:32

New York Nick. Uh left blood

28:35

and guts on the floor everywhere he played. But

28:37

he did his best work as a New

28:39

York Knick in the late eighties and

28:41

and throughout the nineties. Yeah. Absolutely,

28:44

Ok, you got a case. And

28:47

nobody makes a move like that without

28:50

the consent of the

28:52

guy who owns the place, exactly.

28:56

They don't just approach anybody like

28:58

they got the nod from the owner. And

29:00

Uh, this ship ain't This ship ain't going away and it's

29:03

gonna be figured out in a quarter law.

29:05

All right. Coming up next on the Iron Wrap for Stereo

29:07

podcast, all right, the Young Shooter Dean

29:10

Collins. Judge Dean Collins.

29:12

Uh, he stepped he

29:15

this, Yeah, he stepped into reside. We

29:17

have an award winning segment of six Funk

29:19

of the Week or Beyond with

29:22

the Young Shooter Dean Collins.

29:25

Coming up next, Miles Jordan's

29:27

take us in there with something funky, Take

29:29

us in there with a smacker, and then we have Offensive

29:32

Tackle thirteen years of NFL action

29:35

from the Oakland Raiders. Donald

29:37

Penn give

29:40

me a test test Test Test test

29:42

tea. Are you there? Yeah, I'm here, man. Make sure

29:44

my mike is no,

29:46

no, no, I heard what happened the other day. Moody was

29:48

recorded, you weren't. I'm not doing it twice,

29:51

so make sure it's on You're on it's

29:53

recording. As as promised, the

29:55

Young Shooter is back with

29:58

yet another episode of

30:01

Sick Funk of the Week or

30:03

We're beyond Now I

30:05

can I say it with you? No, no,

30:09

no, you can't. You can't

30:11

say it with me and I and and let me tell you something.

30:13

We did an episode the other day in premium

30:16

in primetime PTP. We call

30:18

it prime time podcasting. Uh. And

30:21

Judge Gerald Moody, Yeah, it

30:23

was was in the court. Uh. And

30:25

now you're saying, well, you heard that episode

30:28

was good, but you feel like you're a better, more, a

30:30

fairer, more unbiased

30:32

judge. I'm definitely. I'm definitely a more unbiased

30:35

judge. Um, Judge Moody.

30:37

I there's I have nothing against

30:39

Judge Moody. We're both we're both with just different

30:41

judges, you know what I mean. I mean, Fox

30:44

are out there. It's up to the judges to decide,

30:47

uh if they're six Fox of the Week

30:49

or beyond sick fuck. I

30:52

mean I was the first judge because we

30:54

did the first episode, so you

30:56

know, but it's neither here nor there. Why don't we just

30:58

start again? Were

31:01

doing? Man? You ship bag

31:03

dude. I didn't like we're a

31:05

diaper and go in the bathroom. We're

31:07

the one diaper when you're shooting a podcast,

31:10

were a man diaper. First of all, no one can

31:12

smell anything, and you're the one with ten candles in here

31:14

because you've all been you you're

31:16

busting through the can. I'm not doing anything. You smell

31:19

like ship. Let's get to it. You

31:21

guys know the deal. Uh. The sick

31:23

Funk of the Week is an award winning segment. Uh.

31:26

Sometimes we can't figure out if people

31:28

even be deserved to be on

31:30

this podcast, uh and be

31:32

considered as sick Fox of the week. So

31:35

we leave it into the judge's hand to

31:37

say, is it a sick Funk of the week or

31:39

is he beyond? You? Said? Award winning? By the way,

31:42

this is an award winning I wasn't part of the first one. I

31:44

didn't I didn't get any award. All

31:46

the awards. I take all the credit. That that's

31:48

how it works. That's how it works. I

31:51

get all the ideas from other people,

31:53

and then I take all the credit. I have no shame

31:55

in my game. Like Murder Doc and Chill HBO,

31:58

go and blow all of it. The of the ones

32:00

I came up with any proceeds. So

32:02

yes, not, it is not.

32:04

It's not a problem for me to do that.

32:07

I'll just lawyer up and U. Let's is

32:10

that threat taken however

32:12

you want? Okay, sick

32:14

funk of the week or beyond the sick fuck. Judge

32:17

Dean Collins Court is now in session.

32:23

A flight landing in Orlando

32:25

from Colorado Springs took

32:27

off in Colorado Springs, was landing

32:30

in Orlando, Florida. Not good

32:32

to be or not. Once you say Florida,

32:34

you know things are gonna get like Colorado. That's

32:37

cool, But then you're landing in a place you

32:39

don't know if you want to be there. Nothing.

32:42

A fifty nine year old man apparently

32:45

lost control of himself on

32:48

a flight. It's a Frontier

32:51

Airlines flight. Now, these are

32:53

the flights. I've said it once, I've said it

32:55

many times when you were flying uh

32:57

short flights on these now and

33:00

I'm not saying, you know, I'm not questioning anybody's

33:02

pockets and what they could afford, but it

33:05

is documented that on these airlines,

33:07

Frontier and these sort of their ship I

33:09

took Spirit Airlines. Never fucking

33:12

fly Spirit again. Okay, Frontier

33:14

spirit. Okay, but you gotta

33:16

do what you gotta do to fly. Flying is overly

33:18

expensive. A fifty nine year old

33:21

man punched a death pregnant

33:24

woman and

33:28

and her service dog while

33:30

the plane was in the air.

33:33

He punched a death pregnant

33:35

woman and then took a shot at

33:38

her fucking dog. The

33:41

man complained of it as being of being allergic

33:43

to dogs. As the plane descended, and

33:45

when it was being taxi to the gate, he

33:48

got into it or her dog, which is a service

33:50

animal, a great Dane, woke up. Uh.

33:53

He said the dog was taking up more space. Blah

33:55

blah blah blah blah. He started complaining to the deaf

33:57

woman, who probably a lot

33:59

of things were getting lost in translation. He

34:02

punched her and then punched the

34:04

Great Dane, a service dog. Is

34:06

this man a sick funk of the week or

34:08

is he beyond the sick funk of

34:10

the week, Judge Collins, I mean I I couldn't

34:13

hit the gavel harbor on this one of

34:15

of going beyond sick falls. And I'll

34:17

tell you why, because

34:19

you know what, you know why I think I know. I go ahead, No,

34:21

I'm gonna tell you why. There's so many different factors,

34:23

but I thank you, thank you for calling me your honor

34:26

um. But there's so many different factors, but the one thing

34:28

that stands out to me is you're allergic

34:30

to the dog, therefore you punched the dog.

34:32

I'm allergic to fucking grass trees.

34:35

I'm allergic to cats and dogs. You don't see me fucking

34:37

ripping down trees. You don't see me fucking

34:40

attacking dogs. I stay away from

34:42

them. And that you punched the dog who's

34:44

a service animal. You punched a woman,

34:46

And not only did you punch a woman, but you punched

34:48

a pregnant woman who's going to have

34:50

a child, and she's handicapped,

34:53

disabled death. You, my friend,

34:55

should be fucking locked up behind

34:58

bars. I don't want to. You shuldn't see

35:00

the light of day. I don't care. How would

35:02

you give him five?

35:05

Five years? No longer, you're gonna

35:07

get longer than that. Yeah, I want you to get five

35:09

years for each each

35:11

of the factors that you did. So you're getting five pregnant

35:15

woman, you're getting five for hitting

35:17

the dog, and you're getting five for

35:19

doing it to somebody that was handicapped. So

35:21

that's I'm giving. I'm sentencing fifteen years

35:23

to the beyond the sick fuck guilty.

35:26

All right, the sentence has been given out. Um,

35:30

I didn't set this up. I did not set

35:32

this up. Okay, the six

35:35

fox are put on the dock and I present

35:37

them to the judge your honor.

35:40

In Florida again, in

35:42

Marion County, Florida, a

35:45

teacher has been placed on a

35:47

leave of absence as

35:49

wildlife officials are doing an

35:51

investigation. The teacher

35:54

had students drown

35:57

raccoons in cages during

36:00

class as part of an experiment

36:02

and an agriculture class. The

36:05

students, the students did so. Not

36:08

only did he did? He did this happen in class.

36:10

He had the students who as a man

36:12

or a woman who had the students do it. It's a man

36:15

a man in it Forest High School

36:17

UM in Marion County agriculture

36:20

science class. Kids brought home video

36:23

to their parents. Kid parents were like,

36:25

what the funk? Raccoons

36:27

live, raccoons, They're not dead. No,

36:29

And he didn't do it, he had the students do it. But

36:32

I have a question, go ahead and throw it to judge.

36:35

Should we be considering the students that participated

36:38

as six funks of the week too, so it's too

36:40

twofold. Is this teacher sick

36:42

funk of the week beyond sick funk the week? And should

36:44

some of these students be up for consideration

36:47

in this um. I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna

36:49

I'm gonna call this one a sick

36:51

funk of the week. I'm not gonna go beyond, but

36:53

I will say that the students are

36:56

are definitely up for consideration because

36:58

listen, when I was in school, what

37:00

happened to dissecting a fucking cat or

37:03

a frog? And you know what, even cats say

37:05

they do that they dissect cats, they're

37:08

dead. I never Okay,

37:10

Ever, it was hard enough for me in seventh

37:12

grade science class to dissect the frog.

37:14

And guess what, I didn't

37:16

want to do that, So I literally I said, hey,

37:18

guys, this is just kind of fun. This is fucked

37:20

up. I'm gonna opt out of this operation. Now.

37:23

If I'm in school today and the guy says I need

37:25

to drown, I need. I want

37:27

to do this and I want all of you guys to do it for

37:29

me, drown fourteen live

37:31

raccoons, I'd be like, hold on, guys, this

37:34

is fucked up. Maybe we just don't

37:36

do the kids and protesting.

37:40

Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and say

37:42

the kids are most I'd be

37:44

surprised if one of those kids didn't just

37:46

say, you know what, this is fucked up. I'm gonna leave

37:48

now. This is fucked up. Okay, maybe well

37:51

do your ruling you. I already gave

37:53

the sentencing the kids. The kids, they're

37:55

not up for consideration. They are sick funs.

37:58

The guys a sick funck for making the kids do his

38:00

fucking sick but not beyond. There's no

38:02

beyond there. To me, there's no beyond. It's

38:04

a sick fun though. Okay, fair

38:06

enough, This one is. This one's way

38:08

out there. This one is way out

38:11

there. A Texas doctor

38:14

is accused a false

38:17

diagnosis two dred

38:19

and forty million dollar health care

38:22

scheme, and what he was doing was

38:24

falsely diagnosing patients

38:28

to administer chemo therapy

38:30

and other treatments for people

38:33

who did not need

38:35

it. So he'd give you a false diagnosis,

38:38

give you chemotherapy although you didn't

38:40

need it. But they would come in and say I think I have

38:42

cancer or all sorts of things. He's a roomy

38:45

cancer degenerative diseases,

38:48

authritis. The more diagnosis

38:50

he given the chemo, the more money he would bring bring

38:52

in. The people are sitting there thinking they're

38:54

dying. Chemo is a serious chemotherapy,

38:57

chemotherapy and other medical

39:00

procedures going up to two hundred and

39:02

forty million dollars. This is

39:04

a doctor. People go there thinking thinking,

39:07

you know, this guy's gonna help me, He's gonna save me. I

39:09

could trust them. Thank you, Dr Schmidt,

39:11

Thank you Dr whatever. What's his doctor's name so

39:13

we can get it out, Doctor

39:15

George Zamora who quisite?

39:18

I can't pronounce his fox name. Dr

39:20

George Zamora Quasda. You

39:23

don't need to say anymore. He's beyond sick

39:25

fuck. I mean, how do you how can it not be

39:27

beyond sick fuck? You know, I'm going

39:30

in there for I got a fucking cold and

39:32

the doctor is gonna try and tell me I got cancer, I

39:34

need chemo. I'm sorry, you're sick

39:36

fuck. You're beyond sick fuck. And

39:39

um, that's a that's a life

39:41

imprisonment to me, all right,

39:43

Like you're ruining people's lives by making them go through

39:45

that chemotherapy and false diagnosed. Yeah,

39:47

because you could you, I mean, chemotherapy

39:49

attacks your body. It really

39:52

is a tough procedure to come back from me, like my

39:54

ulsert of collitis. When I have to do like chemo,

39:57

chemotherapy is no jo. And someone might

39:59

say no, well what about and I say over ruled done?

40:03

Next case in Illinois,

40:06

Illinois, Illinois, Illinois.

40:09

Nope, you don't say noise everyone. Everyone

40:11

learns that in like second grade. Never I

40:14

was suspended that week Illinois. In

40:16

Illinois, a man

40:18

stripped down naked, sick fuck.

40:21

Well I didn't finish you first, he said, Illinois.

40:23

Then you said naked man, I say, sick fuck. Okay,

40:26

so he's automatically sick fuck sick fuck

40:28

okay. A man stripped down

40:31

naked outside of Burger

40:33

King because they were closed. Who started

40:36

banging? He said, on the concrete, started banging

40:38

his head on the glass. He was then arrested

40:40

nude outside the Burger King. Is

40:43

this man is sick funk of the week or beyond

40:46

sick fuck? I'm gonna go ahead and and

40:48

and switch things up with this one. At

40:50

first I said he was a sick fun because he said naked.

40:53

But I'd like to say, listen, I've been in

40:55

this situation. You think taco

40:58

bells open, um, they say

41:00

it's open till to one am. You

41:02

get there a fucking one, it's shut. It's

41:04

closed. I'm gonna go ahead and say this guy,

41:07

Um, he's dedicated. He

41:09

he was hungry. He really wanted that burger

41:11

king. I think he may be a sick funk for wanting

41:13

burger king over anything else. But I

41:15

don't think he's a sick fun for stripping naked.

41:18

I don't want to see it. I don't want to see it. But

41:21

I have to give him. Um, I have

41:23

to give him some credit for

41:25

for just really going the extra mile to try

41:27

and get that burger. I mean, look, whoppers.

41:29

Uh, they're good at a certain hour if

41:32

they're closed. And he wants to strip naked and bang his head

41:34

on the wall, that's his problem. Some people may

41:36

look at it as a sick fuck. I say, get it out

41:38

of my courtroom. This is petty shit.

41:40

I don't want to deal with it. Uh, let's

41:42

move on this. This guy sounds like he had

41:44

a bad case of the munchies, and he was a little

41:47

high, and he took things a little too far. Please

41:49

give me something a little bit stronger than

41:51

this man. Not a

41:53

problem, Judge, You're on

41:55

or the next case. Now,

41:58

this is a tragic case, and I don't like to bring

42:00

tragedy, but this is so far

42:03

out and so wacky.

42:06

Um, a man and a

42:08

woman who both look like

42:10

sick fox. And and and when it comes

42:12

down to six Fox of the week, I do judge a

42:14

book by its cover. Okay, okay,

42:16

that's that's how the whole six

42:19

Fox of the week. Uh, we're started. I

42:21

am gonna judge a book by its cover. I said the other

42:24

day. If you have a full face of tattoos

42:26

and a rotting front tooth, I automatically

42:29

say, that's a sick fox. I'm with you. I

42:32

hate to you know, judge, you know shall

42:34

not judge a pass judgment in the Bible

42:37

and the Torah and all that stuff and

42:39

God and then yoga, I get it.

42:41

And you're in my court. You have to tell the truth and nothing

42:43

but the truth. So I do appreciate you saying

42:45

that. Okay, um, final

42:48

case. Uh. And And this was

42:50

presented by a few, not just one,

42:52

a few. I'd say about five different people

42:55

brought this case to me. And

42:57

I'm presenting it to judge, I'm gonna

42:59

have to sa a recess after this. So if we could just get

43:01

this one out. Yes, Now, this woman on

43:04

paper, and I do judge a book by its

43:06

cover doesn't look like

43:08

a true loose sick fox. She's actually attractive,

43:11

Uh, woman like Casey Anthony

43:13

type not but blond,

43:16

like just a kid like a pretty girl

43:18

like you would say on one of your dating apps,

43:21

you you would definitely be like swipe. Yes,

43:23

she'd get more swiped, like we're gonna

43:25

let's hear what she did. Brittany Zamora,

43:28

un married middle school teacher

43:31

Brittany Zamora in Arizona,

43:36

is accused of

43:38

performing oral sex on

43:41

a third team year old

43:44

boy in the school.

43:47

She was flirting with him in classroom chats.

43:50

Other kids said she had been being

43:53

um inappropriate with him

43:55

during school. Uh, then she sent him

43:57

pictures again. She's married.

43:59

This is married woman. She's twenty six year old.

44:01

She's been arrested. She had sex with

44:03

a thirteen year old boy. Now,

44:06

when you were in school, Dean, didn't the teachers ever

44:08

try to have their way with you? You know? No,

44:11

No, they didn't know. Why would

44:13

they? What do you mean why that's

44:15

not why would they? But there was there was a teacher

44:17

named miss Pool. It was really

44:20

hot. If I was fourteen or fifteen,

44:22

that would that would have been a dream for me. But for

44:24

for this case, I would like to say,

44:27

and she's married, and she's married. So imagine

44:29

if your wife is cheating on you, and then you find out

44:31

not only she cheating on it, which is terrible,

44:33

she's cheating on you with a student, okay, bad,

44:36

and then she's cheating on you with a thirteen year

44:38

old. I don't think the marriage thing even has

44:40

to come into play in this. I'm just thinking,

44:43

as the other guy was liked

44:45

honey, I wonder if

44:48

if he was in this courtroom, what would he

44:50

want the judge to say, Judge,

44:52

please, what is your birth on this? We've

44:55

heard these stories so many times and and

44:57

and it is an epidemic, and if the those

45:00

were reversed, might I

45:02

add it would probably get to me. I'm gonna

45:04

just go ahead and say it a little bit more media

45:06

attention, and it's a little bit more controversial.

45:09

A lot of people think that uh, young

45:11

boys like maybe this

45:13

is a predator,

45:16

She's an animal. I'm gonna go ahead and say

45:18

sick fuck. Um, I just

45:21

I can't give the beyond because I've heard it

45:23

so many times. I'm not excusing that.

45:25

But she's twenty six. Um,

45:28

it's fucking disgusting. It's it's it's uh,

45:30

it's statutory rape, right. I mean, if

45:33

her husband was it was with us in this courtroom,

45:36

would you be able to look him in the face

45:38

and say, I am only considering

45:41

your wife a sick fuck and not a beyond.

45:44

That's tough because I can't imagine him. You

45:46

know, he goes, Honey, you cheated on me. I

45:48

need to find this man. Who is he? I'm gonna

45:50

fucking beat him up. And then she goes, well, it's this kid on the

45:52

baseball team and little Tommy,

45:55

you know, he's the second second baseman,

45:57

and you're thinking, fuck, this is

45:59

the fucking guy. At that point, I don't

46:01

know what I would do. You know, what do you tell your friends? So

46:04

my heart goes out to him, out of everybody,

46:06

and my heart goes out to the to the child because thirteen

46:08

is really fucking young. And uh,

46:11

the woman's a pig. She's a fucking

46:13

pig, um, and and she should

46:15

definitely be behind bars. I can't give the lock

46:17

her up. I say, lock her up for a minimum

46:20

of ten years UM

46:22

and a maximum of thirty. I think she can

46:24

maybe change her ways, but she's

46:26

gonna go ahead and go onto the sick funck

46:28

of the week and not beyond. Um.

46:31

That's it. I need to get lunched. This court is a journey.

46:34

Alright. Well, Judge Collins, thank

46:36

you once again for joining us on another

46:39

award winning segment of Sick Funk of the Week

46:41

or beyond Sick Fuck. That's

46:44

cool that that goes that time for sure.

46:48

Alright, the judge made his decisions.

46:51

I don't argue with the judge. Uh,

46:53

the Honorable Judge Dean Collins. Sick

46:55

Funk of the Week or beyond. The

46:57

courtroom is now closed. Uh

47:00

coming up next, I promise

47:02

you. This is a ship talking extravaganza

47:05

from the Oakland Raiders offensive

47:08

tackle pro bowler Donald

47:11

Penn. Yeah,

47:15

chest test test and we get a test. Donald, Alright,

47:19

alright, alright, I'm hyped about

47:21

this podcast. I'm a fan. I'm

47:24

a fan of the way you play. I'm a fanily the way you carry

47:26

yourself. You're a vet. Donald

47:30

Penn covering

47:33

the blind Side of the hundred million dollar man.

47:36

Derek Carr, thank you for rock with me on the Iron

47:38

Wrap Coors Stereo Podcast. It's crazy

47:40

you're a fan because I'm a fan, Because

47:43

I'm a fan, man. I'm a fan from all

47:45

back in the day, all your working man, So I'm

47:48

a big fan. So this is surreal. Alright,

47:50

Well, I appreciate I appreciate it. First of all,

47:53

um, before we get into football,

47:55

you played basketball in

47:58

high school? You were All state,

48:01

All city wall What I was All city

48:03

in all state? Um, my senior year

48:05

in football and basketball. I grew

48:07

up thinking I was gonna go to the NBA. Man, that was my dream.

48:10

My dad played basketball, didn't play football to sophomn

48:12

year high school, and uh, you know it

48:14

just picked up. Well, Uh, I stopped

48:16

getting taller, so I had to had to pick one. And you

48:18

know, not too many schools were coming at me for

48:20

basketball. Had a lot more schools coming from the football.

48:23

So and I kind of chose football and it worked

48:25

out for me. How how to all are you? I'm six

48:27

five, so so for basketball that's a two

48:29

guard. Maybe you know, fifteen years ago

48:31

that could be a three. You

48:34

know, maybe if you're sick, sick sick. That's

48:36

a Charles Barkley power forward. But that that was I

48:38

mean, he's a freak. That's crazy. That's what they's calling me. It's

48:40

called me baby Barkley. Were you like a Barkley. Yeah,

48:42

he's called me baby Barkley. That's how I got my That's

48:44

how I transitioned so well in the football because of my

48:46

basketball background. You know, I got I got great

48:49

feet. I called my feet sweet feet. You know, man, I got great

48:51

feet. Um, And I feel like that's because of my basketball

48:53

background. And I played a lot of basketball in all season

48:55

two. So when you played in your primary playing

48:58

basketball, you could you could done can all

49:00

that. I started duck in the college. Really,

49:02

it's crazy. I started dug in to college. You know. When I first

49:05

got to college, Um, you know that

49:07

that different way program, and I lost

49:09

a little bit more weight, and then I was doing some ridiculous

49:11

stuff in college. I was like, damn, I was I was doing this in high

49:13

school. So so you still play ball, yeah

49:16

I do. I'm I'm recovering from my andrew So this is the first

49:18

all season I haven't been able to do it because I had surgery

49:20

in December. But using on all season.

49:22

As soon as I get back out here hopping

49:24

adult league with my boys, and I'll

49:27

play, you know, once a week. Then sometimes on Saturdays,

49:29

I go twenty four hour play pick up games. Yeah,

49:31

that would be you. I mean, I'm sure you could play, but

49:33

I mean a pick and roll with you. So

49:35

that's a that's a that's a fucking pick. Running into

49:37

you, that's a pick. It's definitely a pick. Now. I love

49:40

basketball, man, I mean it's

49:42

still my love. Like I think I thought I retired,

49:44

I would coach basketball for football. Okay,

49:46

So NFL players, I mean you

49:48

see videos of like these dudes and you'll see

49:50

them at like I celebrity games. I've played with guys

49:53

in celebrity games throughout your years

49:55

in the NFL. What NFL players

49:58

legitimately have basketball

50:00

game? Like? Who could play? It's gotta be the receivers

50:03

like some of these dudes now they're like these receivers

50:05

are like two guards. You got one now, Martavis Bryant,

50:08

So what what dude to have you seen that could playball?

50:10

Quarterbacks? Who who got Marie Cooper

50:13

got some game? Uh? DC got

50:15

their car got some game too. He'd be surprised.

50:17

He got a nice little shot. Man, DC got some game,

50:20

you know, Marie Cooper. Who

50:22

else? Uh,

50:24

there's a couple other guys ain't coming to my my hair

50:27

right now. But a lot of guys in in NFL

50:29

could play. I mean they do it, do an all scene.

50:31

But you gotta watch it so much now because you know all

50:33

these injuries and stuff and and everything is

50:35

a little tough. But you know, when I play, I just don't

50:37

think about it. I just I just go out there and play because

50:40

you know, I love and you understand basketball

50:42

a totally different shape in football. So you know, when

50:44

I get out there and run, like my body is

50:46

way more sore than it is at

50:48

the football game. A different

50:50

movements, different you know, jumping and stuff,

50:53

I'm done. I'm like, I'm like, man, you know,

50:56

I'm hurting more than I did when I played football.

50:58

So who you got? We're in the play off now,

51:00

NBA, uh Calves,

51:03

Celtics, Golden State

51:05

Warriors. What's your prediction?

51:07

Like? Who do you like? Who do you I mean? Lebron Is,

51:09

I mean, we don't need to talk about this, dude. This

51:12

dude is I've never seen anything

51:14

like it. Where's your head at? With the playoffs.

51:16

Since you're you love ball Lakers, listen,

51:20

man, listen that conversation. Let's

51:22

we put that on pause. You guys are

51:24

on pause with the rest of the Lakers

51:26

all day now. But I gotta you know, I play

51:28

in Oakland, man, so I gotta stay with Golden State,

51:30

right, you know, k D and Clay they're good

51:33

friends and stuff. So and I feel

51:35

like whoever comes out the West, I feel like the Houston

51:37

and Golden State is the finals.

51:40

That series is the finals. Whoever one is that they win in

51:42

at all, That's how I feel. I want Golden State to win

51:44

so bad. I want them to beat the

51:46

ship out of Houston. And then I want them

51:49

to and and then although I want

51:51

Lebron to lose to Boston, my

51:53

favorite scenario is them losing

51:55

the Golden State again four

51:57

games. Sweet beat their asses and Boston

52:00

really surprised me. I think they're gonna make it this far with all the injuries

52:02

they went through, Like, Boston really surprised. Meg got some good

52:04

momentum going and a good coach. Yeah, exactly,

52:06

they got the young players are really stepping up and playing

52:08

good for him. But I'm I'm like you I

52:11

think, Um, you know, it's gonna be hard to um beat

52:13

Golden State in the way Steath came back in the way that

52:15

jail and it's gonna be tough. Um. Alright,

52:17

So coaches, speaking of coaches, you

52:19

guys, uh just acquired one of

52:21

the most charismatic, famous, biggest

52:24

personalities. You know, he won the

52:26

Super Bowl. He coached you with Tampa Um

52:29

and then he became like, you know, a

52:31

megastar, mega personality with

52:33

his Grooden camps and just his way. And you

52:36

don't know, is this guy bullshit with his face? Like

52:38

because sometimes I watch Grouden, I'm like, is he

52:40

fucking around like this? He doesn't know that his face

52:42

looks like that when he's on TV, But I guess

52:44

he seems so. He's

52:46

so much loves football and he's so

52:48

intense and he seems like he's

52:51

almost elated by talking

52:53

about football. Tell me what

52:55

John Gruden is like, man,

52:58

Um, He's a football maniac.

53:01

He's a football brains and football

53:03

head. I mean, he he'll going to meeting

53:06

sometime and he'll control the whole meeting.

53:08

He'll tell every single person their job, from

53:10

my job to the receiver to the quarterbacks,

53:12

reads to the center, to everything,

53:14

and he brings so much intense intensity

53:17

and passion. It's like it's like,

53:19

man, it's like, man, you want to play for this guy? You're like,

53:21

man, you know the way he comes and the way he talks

53:23

away, he carries himself and and

53:25

brings that energy. It's like a different energy. You know. It's

53:27

like that when I was in UM Tampa

53:29

and then you know, now with him

53:31

being away from football, it felt like his

53:33

knowledge just took like ten steps

53:36

ten steps forward. You know, he got so much he studied.

53:38

He'dn't studying football for so long, and now

53:40

it's just like it's just

53:42

like I can't wait to get stuff started. Like you know,

53:44

we had a little mini camp a couple of weeks ago,

53:47

and he was even saying he was like he's like he was like,

53:49

funk, this office is gonna be good, Like you know what I mean,

53:51

like like like we're gonna be good. We got some weapons

53:53

and the stuff he's um doing and the coaching

53:56

staff he brought in, Like he he brought a couple

53:58

of former head coaches. You know, UM coach Tom

54:00

came was my online coach. He's doing the run.

54:02

UM I think we don't better run the ball very well, and

54:05

you know it's gonna set up everything we got. We got some good

54:07

weapons. But he's he's he's

54:09

a manni when he comes to football, he's gonna he's

54:11

gonna coach you hard, but he's gonna love you and

54:13

he's gonna get the most out of you. That's that's

54:15

cool, is well, what do you think

54:17

it's like? Now you're a vet, but you know,

54:20

you've got some of these kids that are twenty two,

54:22

twenty three years old, they don't know

54:24

John Gruden. They grew up watching him in the booth.

54:26

To them, he's like a celebrity. You know, it's almost

54:29

like, if not the same, but like Stephen

54:31

A. Smith, like they don't they didn't see him as a coach.

54:33

What do you think it's like for these young kids when

54:36

they got this guy here who's the star, Like you

54:38

know, Derek Carr is a star, coop

54:41

as a star, you're a star. But like as far

54:43

as like recognizability, John Gruden

54:45

is a big What do you think it's like for for your your rookies,

54:47

your second year place, when you got this charismatic

54:50

guy who they've been watching their whole life, and now all of a

54:52

sudden he's their coach. I mean, I think they

54:54

gotta yeah, it's great. I think they gotta

54:56

walk into kinda and all at first, and then you

54:58

know, once he starts talking to him and starts talking

55:01

football, they're like, okay, okay, he's

55:03

a coach. He he he ain't just a

55:05

TV personality. He's he's a coach. He

55:07

he knows his stuff, he knows

55:09

what he's talking about, you know, and uh, you

55:11

know when he when he comes in, he's a he's a great player

55:13

coach, you know. Not to me, some coaches aren't player coaches,

55:16

you know what I mean. He's a great player coach, and he could

55:18

he could be a player coach and be be

55:20

serious at the same time and handle stuff. You know.

55:22

But but you know, I know

55:24

him. He probably you know, when the young guys come in, he probably

55:26

all right, it's the reality checks over. Now let's get

55:28

the work. You know, I'm John Gruding, it's over.

55:31

I was on TV on that. But now I need to get the

55:33

most out of you. Let me see what we're you're gonna be best

55:35

at. Let me see where I can use you. Let's get the work

55:37

because all he wants to do is win. And you

55:39

know, he got a big chip on his shoulder right now coming in.

55:41

You know a lot of people are doubting him, you know, saying

55:43

he shouldn't deserve all that money, and um, you know he's

55:45

bringing in a group of guys to to back up

55:48

his stuff. So so so we could be good. And you

55:50

know, I'm happy he's back in football. You know, one thing he

55:52

told me when he first got the job, when we talked, he was like, man,

55:54

Donald, He's like, I missed the game. I

55:57

missed the game. Yeah, And um

55:59

I was like yeah, um, you know, the meetings are

56:01

the means are fun. You know, listen to him. He's

56:04

fired up. He'll he'll show some old clips,

56:06

some guys, some new clips and stuff here. He'll

56:09

he'll go through stuff like places we put in his show.

56:11

He'll show Jerry Rice doing it. He'll he'll show um

56:13

Tim Brown doing it, you know, and it's just stuff

56:15

like that. He gets guys motivated, gets guys going

56:18

it, gets guys wanted to play for him. That's dope. Like

56:20

So it's really like that that enthusiasm that

56:22

we saw as a broadcaster. You're getting that firsthand

56:24

as a coach and you're getting all the details and

56:26

the special sauce and all that stuff.

56:29

And he was like that before he got into broadcast too. He

56:31

was the same way. When we're in Tampa. He he control

56:33

means, he he got is fired up.

56:36

You know, he's he's a great guy. And

56:38

um, you know, I'm really happy to be able to get another

56:41

round with him. That's dope. I

56:43

mean, I don't know, like they keep putting you out the

56:45

pastor you know that's the end of Donald

56:47

Penn. Uh he's holding out. Uh,

56:49

you know, as he's worth the money. You know,

56:52

Tampa Bay didn't want to pay you Oakland,

56:54

they hold out. Do you imagine yourself

56:57

this whole thing? Now, I'm I'm a New York Giant Chip, but

57:00

everybody loves the Raiders. Everybody

57:02

loves the Raiders. Do you

57:04

imagine yourself making it too when they

57:06

get to Vegas? And how do you feel about

57:09

as like you grew up as a fan. For me,

57:12

it's sacrilegious. This is just me

57:14

talking now. I don't want to get you involved with

57:16

this ship, but this is it's sacrilegious

57:18

that the Oakland Raiders are not

57:21

in Oakland, they're gonna wind up playing

57:23

in fucking Las Vegas. First of all,

57:25

well, what is your opinion on that? Second of all, you're

57:27

you're you're a vet, but you've got a twenty one year

57:29

old kid. He doesn't know where the funk he is. He's

57:32

from, you know, backwoods, wherever, swamp,

57:34

and then he's in Vegas. He's got,

57:36

you know, a million dollar contract. Anything

57:39

can happen to these kids. So well, what is your your take

57:41

on on the Raiders leaving Oakland?

57:43

They're so that's like the fucking didn't the New

57:45

York Yankees leaving the Bronx, you

57:48

know what I mean. I know they came in now l A. But it's like, the Oakland

57:50

Raiders deserve to be in Oakland. I don't care if the fans

57:53

travel or not. To me, that's funked

57:55

up. Now.

57:57

You know. I grew up a Raider fan, So it's like it's like some

58:00

real you know, it's a dream come true,

58:02

me playing for the team I grew up for. But you

58:04

know, a little disappointed when I when I found that out. I'm

58:06

not gonna lie a sugarcoat, you know. Uh. One

58:08

thing that we're trying to make sure we do. We're trying to make sure we bring

58:11

a championship to Oakland before we leave. You know,

58:13

lead with a banging And you

58:15

know, from what I heard and from what I talked

58:18

to with Mr Davis, you know he tried to do everything possible

58:20

to get a new stadium in Oakland. Our stadium is

58:22

bad. It's it's from the

58:24

eighties, right bad. And um,

58:26

you know he heard he tried his hardest

58:29

to do what he wanted to stand Oakland tried his hardest.

58:31

And you know, one thing bout Mr Davis man, he loves

58:33

his team, he loves his players. So if

58:35

he's making this decision, he's making the right decision.

58:38

And you know, I'm a support him and back then though, but

58:40

I am a little sad that we're leaving Oakland, you know, because

58:42

it's it's gonna be tough. It's gonna be like

58:44

you said, it's gonna be a different adjustment.

58:46

You know, I don't think I'm gonna make it to Oakland. I only plan

58:48

on playing two more years. You know, I'm gonna I want

58:50

to be around for me, I want to be around my kids more often

58:53

and stuff like that. So you know, I I

58:55

told him, I got two more years on me. This contract is probably

58:57

gonna be my last, and uh you know when when

59:00

ever, No, I'm not gonna I'm not like going to him. He said,

59:02

don't predict this player, but all the next two years and we'll

59:04

see what happens. But you know, I want to give him my

59:06

all these last to try to get the championship. But

59:08

it's gonna be a hard adjustment. Um, going

59:10

to Vegas, like you said, for them young kids, you know, coming

59:12

in with a pocket full of money, all that temptation, you

59:15

know, all the not even temptation, just that the

59:17

tables, gambling, like the whole thing. You know. The

59:20

clubs out there stay open five in the morning. You

59:22

know, I think the five in the morning. I think

59:24

some of them ship's opening five, you know, trying

59:26

to you know, but um, I heard they're gonna our

59:28

facilities gonna be far away from the strip over there. Listen,

59:32

Like, if it's fifty man, how far could it

59:34

possibly be. That's funny. They're

59:36

gonna try to put it. Well, I guess they have to put it because

59:39

it's logistically right. Yeah, but you know what, I

59:41

think they're gonna have a good plan you know,

59:43

they don't have some good people around, you know, to help

59:45

with the go with the guys and stuff like that. And then you

59:47

know, one thing that's want that we want to do. You

59:50

know, I might have to stick around because they might. They're gonna

59:52

need that veteran presence, you know, to talk these guys

59:54

down and you know, get these guys as good as ample showing

59:56

what they should and shouldn't do. So it's gonna

59:58

be a tough it's go a tough adjustment, but

1:00:01

you know, I think it's I think it's gonna be a good thing for uh,

1:00:04

for for the players. Shoot, they get the thirteen

1:00:06

percent raised just going to Vegas with no

1:00:08

state tax, right, So that

1:00:10

that's gonna put a little something to somebody's eyes.

1:00:12

No matter what I know, DC, he probably

1:00:15

like, shoot that all that money take out taxes for my contract.

1:00:17

I'm gonna I'm gonna live it back, won't go to Vegas.

1:00:19

Right. Um, So I

1:00:21

said, you're you're thirty five now, man,

1:00:24

I'm twenty eight for life for

1:00:26

life? Have you been before your

1:00:28

how how old you just turn? You just

1:00:30

turned thirty five? And this this season two thousand

1:00:33

eighteen, two thousand is your what's fifteen

1:00:36

thirteen season? Like

1:00:38

I said, you got a big contract

1:00:40

in Tampa Bay, you get released. You

1:00:42

know, every last year you had to hold

1:00:45

out for money. This year and

1:00:47

listen, you gotta build for the future. You can only go for

1:00:49

someone they draft, you know, these these

1:00:51

star alignment what

1:00:55

is it gonna like? Do you feel like like they're

1:00:57

trying to get rid of you? The NFL is trying to give you Like

1:01:00

you're as far as beating the odds in football.

1:01:02

I mean, it's rare that alignment plays

1:01:05

as long as you have I mean,

1:01:07

it's a blessing. It's luck, it's hard work.

1:01:09

It's just never getting that terrible injury.

1:01:12

Uh, do you get resentful? Like when

1:01:14

you have to hold out for money, do you get resentful? I

1:01:17

mean, I guess when they're drafting young dudes, that's that's

1:01:19

smart because you you suffered an injury and they

1:01:21

have to build for the future. But what is your take

1:01:23

on Like do you sometimes like, yeah, why are you guys trying to

1:01:25

get rid of me? I don't give up Sacks.

1:01:27

It's tough because you know,

1:01:30

even in Tampa I had to hold out to get a deal. Oakland

1:01:32

to hold out to get a deal. It's like I always gotta fight

1:01:34

for it. You know, I play my butt off

1:01:36

and stuff, and you know a lot of these other guys, they

1:01:39

only play as good as me and they just get handed all this Money's

1:01:41

I gotta fight for mine. But you know, it

1:01:43

is what it is. You know, I wish,

1:01:45

I wish I could do it different. I wish I wish

1:01:48

it didn't have to come to me holding out, you know what I mean.

1:01:50

I wish it would just play out. But you

1:01:52

know, I use this motivation. Man. You know, I came in undrafted

1:01:54

free agent, you know, on the start a hunting seventy straight games.

1:01:57

You know, so it's gonna be hard, Um, come

1:02:00

titians? What what? What? What drives me? So you

1:02:02

know, once I get back from the injury, I'm gonna compete.

1:02:04

Uh. You know, they got these young guys in. There's

1:02:07

no there's not gonna be no hard feelings because I love

1:02:09

d C and I love the team. So you

1:02:11

know, I'm gonna try to get those young guys right and

1:02:13

take them under my wing when I am done, because

1:02:15

I'm not gonna I'm going I'm not going out without a fight, you

1:02:17

know. So when I am done. I want to make sure you

1:02:19

know, this first round pick he gets all

1:02:22

my tips, everything I got in my back pocket. I'm gonna letm

1:02:24

know everything, you know, so when he does get in there,

1:02:26

you know he could protect my guy DC like

1:02:29

I do, because you know, at the end of the day, man DC always

1:02:31

gonna be friends, you know what I mean. And when I meet

1:02:33

this guy this week coming up, you know we're gonna we're gonna be good

1:02:35

friends. You know, they told me they want me to take him under my wing,

1:02:37

you know, teach them everything, and you know I'm

1:02:39

gonna do it. But you know, in the day, I'm gonna compete

1:02:42

my butt off. That's all I've been doing in this league. I always

1:02:44

fought for everything. I compete in my butt off for everything,

1:02:46

and like I said, nothing was given to me. So

1:02:48

that's my mentality. You know, I fight, I fight,

1:02:51

I fight, and I'm I'm gonna I'm

1:02:53

gonna go down swinging. Do you do? So when

1:02:55

you say compete, it's really just like to compete

1:02:57

to show you're healthy, compete to show you're still

1:02:59

all pro level. It's not necessarily

1:03:01

compete against him. It's really just at

1:03:03

this point with you to like show that like you're

1:03:06

you come back from this foot injury and you

1:03:08

still basically got it or basically used

1:03:10

to you summed it up so right, you know, basically

1:03:12

I still got it. You know you gotta understand. Um,

1:03:15

you know, when I went my whole career, every time

1:03:17

I've been like, I never had a solid backup because

1:03:19

I don't miss any games. And I think the Raiders

1:03:22

kind of saw that last year when I went down. They're like, damn,

1:03:24

you know, if something happens, we gotta have

1:03:27

something. Something. They're playing for

1:03:29

my hundred twenty million dollar guy, you know,

1:03:31

um, and we got to play for the future.

1:03:33

I'm not gonna lie when. Um, you know, I'm

1:03:36

first gonna tell you when. As soon as when as soon as

1:03:38

I saw the drop that I called grew and immediately like

1:03:40

what the fuck? You know what I mean? He and Ashen

1:03:42

I saw the next Monday, He's like he's he's like he's ready

1:03:44

to kick my ass. He was like joking, He's like,

1:03:46

you like kick my ass. And I was like, man I man,

1:03:48

I said, I'm good. Now. You know, I'm an

1:03:50

emotional dude. That's what makes me, uh

1:03:53

such a good player. Because I played with emotion, you know what

1:03:55

I mean. I feel like that's what it helped me out throughout

1:03:57

the career. But I ain't gonna lie. I called grew and as soon as that, like,

1:04:00

what the fund you guys doing? I can't do the hen and

1:04:02

answer. And then when I saw him money he jumping around me.

1:04:04

He was like he was ready to kick my assh down, her

1:04:07

down, he said, you know what I mean, explained everything

1:04:09

to me and stuff. That's one thing I like about him

1:04:11

till he keeps it real with you, man, keep you

1:04:14

can't. You know, it's it's

1:04:16

rare where you got a guy that that does that, especially

1:04:18

ahead coach exactly. I know him for well. We

1:04:21

joked around, you know, I was in his office

1:04:23

and we joked around about it. What he kept saying.

1:04:25

He's like he was mad at the motherfucker. He was ready

1:04:27

to kick my eye. I was like, I kind of that's coach. I kind

1:04:29

of love. He's like, yeah, that's why, He's like, that's why I an answer,

1:04:31

That's why an answer. But you

1:04:34

know, uh, now now talking to them and

1:04:36

seeing um them telling me to play and seeing

1:04:38

uh what happened and stuff, you know I'm good with I

1:04:40

mean, I was good with it, you know later on that day. But

1:04:42

to me, it was funny. I was watching the draft my son, my

1:04:45

nine year old. He loves football. He always

1:04:47

on NFL network and we were like waiting

1:04:49

on the draft, and he looked at me said, yeah,

1:04:52

you get they're getting rid of you. I

1:04:54

said, ship son, I don't know, but

1:04:58

that's funny. But yeah, now because I can sit

1:05:01

back and laugh about it though. But first of my song, like,

1:05:03

I was like, I was like, what the fun like, you

1:05:05

know, they're like first round. I'm like, I said,

1:05:07

we gotta dress right off the top right,

1:05:10

that's funny. So so how how

1:05:12

are you feeling? Uh? And what is it called the Liz

1:05:14

Frank injury? Who's that named after? Like a skater?

1:05:17

What is it called? I forgot? I forgot. The doctor explained

1:05:19

it to me before he did my surgery where it came from. But

1:05:21

that was right when I was in Um, I had the end a stage

1:05:24

out right after, so I don't remember what he said, but

1:05:26

it's it's named after somebody, You're right, Um,

1:05:28

I think it is a hockey player skate or something like

1:05:30

that. I think it is. Uh, But yeah, I fractured

1:05:33

like four balls in my foot and two of my list. Frank Um,

1:05:35

you the first person getting an update on my injury. Man,

1:05:38

I'm I'm doing good and I'm doing everything they

1:05:40

want me to do. It it's just different. This is my first

1:05:42

major injury I've had in my career. Alignment.

1:05:46

That's such a blessing. I mean for football

1:05:48

player in general, but for alignment. You guys always

1:05:50

get those people falling under you.

1:05:53

I mean, that's a fucking blessing. And I was mad

1:05:55

too, because you know, I had a hundred sementi um

1:05:57

straight star streak and I just passed Joe

1:05:59

Tom It's because he he got hurt

1:06:01

earlier in the year and I just passed them and then I

1:06:04

got hurt. I'm like, damn, you know, I had had the

1:06:06

streak going. But you know, I'm doing everything

1:06:08

they're telling me and do everything's going good. The

1:06:10

first rating thing is I've never been hurt,

1:06:13

and I want to do so much more, and they keep telling me,

1:06:15

you know, trust the process, trust the process, and I'm

1:06:17

listening. I'm like, man,

1:06:19

it's hard. I'm listening though, but it's like I want

1:06:21

to do more, and they're like man, just chill, just chill.

1:06:24

We're gonna we want you for training camp, you

1:06:26

know, during the season. We don't need you now. But as

1:06:28

I'm used to being out there with the guys. You know, I'm

1:06:30

in the back while practice, I'm

1:06:33

calling out my assignments and stuff. I'd

1:06:35

rather be out there. But I'm listening. I'm

1:06:37

not being hard hereuse I want to do a lot more than

1:06:40

they're letting me. But I am listening because

1:06:42

I know they know what's best, and you know, my

1:06:44

age and everything. I want to come back strong, you

1:06:46

know, I want to. I just want to win these

1:06:48

last two years. Man, Just have fun and win man, you

1:06:50

know, and champ. You know, it's up and down. When I

1:06:52

first got to the ratings, you know when one

1:06:54

thing I first thing I said, when my first interview, I

1:06:56

said, you know, I want to bring the Raiders back

1:06:58

to greatness, and you know I

1:07:00

have. But the mission is not not done yet. It's not

1:07:03

completely Super Bowls completely. You know, we got back to

1:07:05

the playoffs. You know I helped that. Uh.

1:07:07

You know, regim Ckenson did a great job drafting these

1:07:09

young guys, these young guys in and they've

1:07:11

been jailing the Khalil and d C. That

1:07:14

was a man. I was a knockout hit,

1:07:16

you know what I mean? Um them back to

1:07:18

back, first second round, and you know,

1:07:20

we we we gotta we. We

1:07:22

are disappointed with how we played last year.

1:07:25

And you know, a groom coming in and

1:07:27

us being upset with how the season went last

1:07:30

year. It's like everything's jailing and falling

1:07:32

place. But we still got a lot of work ahead of us. We still

1:07:34

got a long way to go. Derek Carr, I mean,

1:07:37

I love the way he plays. Uh,

1:07:39

you know, he's tough. I

1:07:42

love his story. You know, I'm a fan of his hundred

1:07:44

million dollars. First of all, When he gets a

1:07:46

hundred million dollars, are you like when you guys are on the road,

1:07:49

you're at dinner, like, don't look at me, like you

1:07:51

pull that fucking credit card out a hundred million

1:07:53

dollars, you know, d see

1:07:55

he take care of his guys. Man, he take care of He

1:07:57

messed one all the time. I said, you saw

1:07:59

a Matt Ryan just got so when you get that second

1:08:02

deal to just buy me a car, it could

1:08:04

be used. I don't want nothing too big, to

1:08:06

give me a little, a little little health cat or something,

1:08:08

you know what I mean. I always joking up about that,

1:08:11

and he always be laughing like DV. Like DV, always

1:08:14

joking about that. But you know, one thing about d

1:08:16

C takes care of us. Man. He takes care of his guys. You know this

1:08:18

his great Christmas gifts every year. And

1:08:21

uh, if we do go to dinner and he's yere,

1:08:23

he'll he'll take the bill. But you know, DC, he

1:08:25

studies so much. I mean, he's the first guy in

1:08:27

the um, in the um

1:08:30

the facility. You know, he's one of the last guys

1:08:32

to leave, you know. So when we do go to dinner,

1:08:34

sometimes he does miss a lot. He's like, hey, get

1:08:36

to sleep. You know, I'm up early in the morning. And

1:08:39

when you do do online dinners and stuff, like one

1:08:41

time he came. He came just from the beginning

1:08:43

for about thirty minutes and then just show face what

1:08:45

you appreciate, thanks for coming, you know what

1:08:47

I mean. We understand they had to go home, like, you know, I gotta

1:08:49

get up early. You're not gonna get in there getting in the book. So

1:08:52

so one thing ABOUTDC studied hard. He's a

1:08:55

you know man, um, he's he's a

1:08:57

great guy. He's a great player. Like I got a lot

1:08:59

of admirations for d See, like like you know, I mean I talked

1:09:01

holly about him because I really feel like, you know,

1:09:03

he's gonna be one of those great quarterbacks that we're

1:09:05

gonna be talking about from years to come. His

1:09:08

injuries, you know, like last

1:09:10

year he had injury the year before when you guys

1:09:12

were cooking, when he goes

1:09:14

down, Uh, Like

1:09:17

can you guys even recover from that?

1:09:19

Like it's so rare that, like you know what happened and feeling

1:09:21

like a guy comes in there he's is good or

1:09:23

playing, you know, sometimes even better like Derek.

1:09:27

Uh, you know, the injuries have been such a burden. Um,

1:09:30

how frustrating has that been? Like even not

1:09:33

in two thousands six, two thousand seventeen,

1:09:35

like when he went down when you guys were rocking and rolling

1:09:38

it. I mean it definitely like it screwed everybody

1:09:40

up. I mean that one, that one always sticks

1:09:42

to my head. I won't ever forget that one. Um. I

1:09:45

it was late in the season. I don't gave a sack

1:09:47

the whole season, and I'm blocking my guy and all of a sudden,

1:09:49

my foot just slips from under me and I

1:09:52

fall and he gets sacked and this first

1:09:54

second, I give up all year and he gets my quarterback

1:09:57

out for the year. Like was that the injury? Yeah?

1:09:59

And then my quarterback out for the year, and uh,

1:10:02

you know it's crazy. The same steps I take all

1:10:04

the time. I've been killing this dude all game,

1:10:07

and all of a sudden, I'm turning running my foot

1:10:09

just just stepped in the grass

1:10:11

and just boom. I felt right on my face, you

1:10:13

know what I mean. I just felt right on my slipped

1:10:15

out my hand and then d C told me he said

1:10:17

he he wished he would just went down. He said he tried to

1:10:20

fight out of it, and that's when he tried to get

1:10:22

out of it, when he tried to keep

1:10:24

going. He said, I should just went down. And you

1:10:26

know, I think DC learned from that. You know, sometimes

1:10:28

if you notice in the games, you know what I mean, if you

1:10:30

know he's gonna get stacked and something breaking

1:10:32

down here, he'll just he'll just go go down instead

1:10:34

of trying to fight stuff. Like, you know, I think he learned

1:10:36

from that. And then, uh, you know the one the one

1:10:38

um last year when he when he got his back, that was just crazy.

1:10:40

It was off a play action. You know, we're all running,

1:10:43

um, you know, using the balls out quick

1:10:45

and you know they came back and that was just a

1:10:47

freak one and uh he went

1:10:49

down to like he did. But the dude, you know, the lineman

1:10:51

fell with me and knee hit him in the back. It's

1:10:53

just um freak injurgy. But but one

1:10:56

thing about d C. You know, everybody like tried to he's

1:10:58

a tough son of a bit. Of course, he's a tough

1:11:00

motherfucker. Like like they don't know that. I know that

1:11:02

he's a tough dude. Like he's a tough, tough

1:11:04

dude. It's just been unfortunate, man,

1:11:06

Like you said, that year, the first year, he got hurt,

1:11:09

like we were rolling, we were rolling, we were

1:11:11

run. Then I got hurt. The next game, I couldn't

1:11:13

play in the playoffs. That was only my second time making

1:11:15

the playoffs in my my twelve year career.

1:11:17

So that was that was tough. And uh,

1:11:20

but you know, I think they gotta plan. Now, you know, they gotta

1:11:22

plan. You gotta have a plan, just like they gotta plan for

1:11:24

for for me, you know, bringing in these young guys

1:11:27

in case something happens. And I think that's why they're

1:11:29

bringing in these young guys now too, so because they know

1:11:31

we gotta protect the see, we gotta keep him up

1:11:33

right. Because when he's upright, he's doing

1:11:35

this thing and we're rolling, rocking and rolling. Um,

1:11:38

Marshawn Lynch beast Mode. I

1:11:40

mean, this is a person that people probably ask you about

1:11:43

him all the time. My boy, man, Well what is

1:11:45

he like? What's his fucking deal? Is he

1:11:47

coming back? Like? I mean, he's like everybody loves

1:11:49

best mode. Um. Last year he had

1:11:52

flashes of you know, beast Mode,

1:11:54

but it was just a frustrating year across the board.

1:11:57

As a Raider fan and I am a Raider fan. What

1:11:59

is he like as a person, and what is it like blocking

1:12:01

for him? And what is it like when he's when he is cooking,

1:12:04

you know, when he comes through the whole, he's

1:12:07

straight East Oakland. He's Straighthood.

1:12:11

I've known him for a while, even before

1:12:13

he got uh to the Raiders. I played

1:12:15

with his cousin Tampa and we

1:12:17

got real close. But you know, I love

1:12:20

these small I love his mentality, you

1:12:22

know, Um, you know, sometimes his

1:12:24

mentality gets a little too much like ever. But he got a

1:12:26

chill. But that's him and he ain't gonna change

1:12:28

for nobody. That's one thing I love about

1:12:31

him. But like you said, he's been

1:12:33

there every day this offseason program. He's

1:12:35

been working his butt off. He's been working harder

1:12:38

than I thought. I was even messing and I was like, I

1:12:40

called him my son. I was like, damn, son, he's been

1:12:43

every day. I said, Daddy, proud of you know what I mean? I said, I sound

1:12:45

proud of and

1:12:47

he'd like, chill son, chill sothing. But uh, now

1:12:49

he's been there every day. He's been working hard.

1:12:51

I was in the lunch room Thursday

1:12:54

leaving and he was sitting down with his new fullback

1:12:57

watching film, going through, you know, tell

1:12:59

him what he likes to read, what you know. I

1:13:01

was like, damn, I said, you never did that last you know, we

1:13:03

always looking around joke. Aros said, you never

1:13:05

did that last year. I said, man, I said, I said, my son

1:13:07

growing up? You know what I mean, like I was growing heybody,

1:13:11

don't talk to your daddy like that. You know we're going back and forth,

1:13:13

but uh, but he's on and you know what

1:13:15

we got. Uh, you know, one of the big big

1:13:17

hires that that guys are really sleeping on

1:13:19

is our online took coach Tom Cable. Okay,

1:13:22

why because he's he's a great online

1:13:24

coach. You know, how do you like at this point

1:13:26

you like you know that, But

1:13:29

explain what that means to to someone

1:13:31

like me. Because offensive line, it's

1:13:33

like we could see here and be like I played wide receiver, I played

1:13:35

two way in touch, I played flag football. Offensive

1:13:38

line is it like you either played offensive line

1:13:40

or you don't know anything about it. I don't do a fun how

1:13:42

much studying you do? Like,

1:13:45

you know, it's like you could play basketball your whole life.

1:13:47

You could get an understanding for basketball.

1:13:49

You can get an understanding for throwing football to

1:13:52

your son. You can catch the offensive

1:13:54

line is like you know, you feel like you go play

1:13:56

I'm gonna go play offensive line on a Sunday like you

1:13:58

could play golf, you could play tennis. Offensive

1:14:00

line is like this whole world to itself. So what

1:14:02

makes a good offensive lineman? Coach?

1:14:05

Uh, finding out what

1:14:08

your players are good at, find

1:14:10

out what they can do good, and you

1:14:12

know, put them in the right spot to succeed. Um,

1:14:15

not trying to have them do stuff, just because

1:14:18

uh, this is the drill. You gotta do what you gotta do it.

1:14:20

Okay, he might not be too good at that. All right, well we're gonna

1:14:22

do something else, you know what I mean listening like

1:14:25

like you know, I might tell, I might tell coach

1:14:27

like, you know what, this is how I've been

1:14:29

doing it? Like is that all right? If I do that? Some coaches like,

1:14:31

now you gotta do a mile way doing my way, you know. Coach Cable

1:14:33

was like, you know what if it works for you, you

1:14:34

you know, let's go ahead, let's

1:14:37

let's do it, you know, and uh go, but

1:14:39

like give me the intricacies, like what would work for you,

1:14:41

like like the way you set up, like because it's again,

1:14:44

this is so foreign, Like give me an example of something

1:14:46

like what is it you know? Or me, I've

1:14:48

been playing so long, like when I'm in my past, when I'm in my

1:14:50

stands, my foot's back far, you

1:14:52

know, when you're teaching some of the young guys, he got their foot

1:14:54

up a little a little bit closer, and I'm like, you

1:14:56

know, I'm coach, I'm used to this. I've been doing this trove

1:14:58

all right. I'm like he's I alway even thinking about

1:15:00

telling you nothing different. You know, you go do you

1:15:02

you know what I mean? Like, uh, you know, like some guys,

1:15:05

some guys aren't good pullish, you know, you gotta

1:15:07

pull get out of some guys aren't good pullers. All Right, we're not

1:15:09

gonna we're not gonna run that pool play for you. We're

1:15:11

gonna run the other way. And we might have to mix it

1:15:13

in once or three times to keep everybody honest,

1:15:15

you know, stuff like that, you know what I mean, But on

1:15:17

them one to three times, just just do what you can and try

1:15:19

to try and make it work, you know what I mean. And then uh,

1:15:22

you know hand placement, Uh, I like,

1:15:24

you know, I've been with a couple of different culches, so you

1:15:26

know, I've been talking different things. And then

1:15:28

when he comes in and teach his way, you know, he's

1:15:31

like, he's like, talk to me if you want to do something different

1:15:33

or or if you want to do it, if you don't like the way

1:15:35

I'm doing it, explain to me. So I might not always

1:15:37

agree with you, but I'm gonna listen to it and try to try

1:15:39

to take into perspective, you know, and try to help you out

1:15:41

with it. And you know, uh, coach Cable

1:15:43

when he was with Marshawn Man. I mean they were they were running

1:15:45

the ball fucking crazy in Seattle, you know what I

1:15:47

mean. And and for him to come back and bring

1:15:50

that run scheme here, I know, Marshan's fucking

1:15:52

excited and happy to have him back

1:15:54

in you know the time being that I've

1:15:56

been with him and been listening to him and

1:15:58

watching them and and listen

1:16:00

to the install of our run game like it's it's gonna be

1:16:03

great. You know. So when I say like offensive

1:16:05

line, uh stuff, like what does

1:16:07

it mean to be a good offensive lineman? You

1:16:09

know, being a good office line? You know one thing I'm

1:16:11

gonna get back to you, Like, like you say, office lineman, we

1:16:14

we do the dirty work. We get no credit

1:16:16

none, we get no credit. We do the dirty working.

1:16:19

And we're the engine, you

1:16:21

know what I mean, Like d see the car, you

1:16:24

know, the receivers and rims, you know what I mean, running

1:16:27

back the sound system, you know what I mean. But we're the engine.

1:16:29

You know, you can't work without the offensive line, you know what I

1:16:31

mean, with with the engine that makes it go. But

1:16:34

being a good office lineman is

1:16:36

you know one thing about me and my career, and why I

1:16:38

think I made it so far is I'm consistent.

1:16:41

Consistency, you know what I mean. They know

1:16:44

I'm gonna be I'm gonna be there, I'm gonna be on my

1:16:46

guy. You know, I'm not perfect. I

1:16:48

might slip up one or two times, but nine

1:16:52

percent a time, I'm gonna be Oh my guys. So

1:16:55

it's consistency and it and you got it. Sometimes,

1:16:57

man, sometimes you just gotta suck it up

1:16:59

and say, I'm just beat this dude's ass. Sometimes

1:17:03

technique go out out the window. You just

1:17:05

gotta just grunt your teeth and just fucking fight him.

1:17:07

Say I'm gonna I'm gonna get the best of this motherfucker.

1:17:09

Because like when I'm going Miller and his third

1:17:12

and fucking long and he's sitting here staring at

1:17:14

the fucking ball eyes bigg As ship, I'm

1:17:16

thinking, like, fuck, I gotta I gotta keep

1:17:19

this motherfuck off and I'm gonna do whatever it takes.

1:17:21

I mean, my technique might not be perfect, I'm gonna get my hands

1:17:23

on him and take him off. And he's he's one of the great

1:17:25

Vins, one the great. But I don't you know, it's

1:17:28

hard to eat breakfast that morning. I know, I gotta play Von, you

1:17:30

know what I mean. Stomach a little bubbly and stuff.

1:17:32

You know what I mean. I'm like God, I gotta played Von all fucking

1:17:35

gang like Ship, you know what I mean, Cause he good,

1:17:37

you know what I mean. By the end of the day, it's

1:17:39

I'm gonna compete. I'm a competitor, you know what I mean.

1:17:41

That's that's why I take pride, and I take

1:17:43

probably going gets the best and shut

1:17:45

them down. That's how that's how you get your name out of office line.

1:17:48

And you go against the best, and and when they look at the statu

1:17:50

sheet, like, oh Ship, was he there

1:17:52

that day? Right? No? No,

1:17:54

no, no no. That's how

1:17:56

I got growing gowing up in Tampa. You

1:17:58

know, I was going against John Abraham. He's one

1:18:00

of the most one of the best

1:18:02

defensive ends that I think that doesn't

1:18:05

get talked about. I agree. In my conference,

1:18:07

I had John Abraham, Julius Peppers. I

1:18:09

mean, one time Julie Peppers put his arm out on me. I

1:18:11

try to stop boys so long. I caught

1:18:14

him right here. He

1:18:16

he's a fucking freak and freak man, you

1:18:18

know, I one of the best, and you know I have will Will

1:18:20

Smith rest in peace, you know what I mean. Like like you

1:18:22

know, and and those those games you know we're

1:18:25

playing on Monday night football stuff like that. I'm like, man,

1:18:27

I want to show the world with the funk guys,

1:18:29

you know what I mean. They keep talking about him. I'm showing them. But I

1:18:31

got this young kid, you know what I mean, the damn this young kid

1:18:33

going against them. And and that's how you you get

1:18:36

yourself out there, that's how you get your name going on.

1:18:38

When you play against the best, you gotta be the best, you

1:18:40

know what I mean. When you're coming off the line, Like

1:18:42

I mean, when I'm looking at

1:18:44

you and I think about these offensive linemen who

1:18:46

get no credit, and you know, you'll

1:18:48

hear about oh this this, They'll like, you know, they'll talk

1:18:50

about a guy, this guy runs

1:18:53

the forty and forty. You're like this fucking

1:18:55

guys like the size of a fucking truck,

1:18:58

fat fucking you know guy, Like

1:19:00

you guys are talking about freaks because

1:19:04

you did the linebackers. We know, those

1:19:06

guys are like they're like, you know, crazy

1:19:08

fast, the Vaughan Miller's and all that you guys are

1:19:11

you have to like the quickness and and the agility,

1:19:14

and you're the biggest guys, you know, like especially

1:19:16

like the guards in the center. You know the deal. You know what

1:19:18

the crazy thing is? Now? Like the new kids

1:19:20

come in freaks, like like these these

1:19:22

deans, they're running as

1:19:24

fast. These deans running as fast the receivers. Now

1:19:27

have you seen the evolution of man? Since

1:19:29

you're crazy? I want to do my

1:19:31

campus stuff. I get the high school kids coming, and I'm like, I

1:19:34

was not that fucking big in high school. What the funk

1:19:36

are y'all eating? Like you know what I mean? Like it's some big

1:19:39

kids. I went to my college a couple of months ago,

1:19:41

and I sat down with the old line. I'm like, man, I

1:19:43

wasn't that big in college. Like, I'm like, what the fun is

1:19:45

going on? Where are they feel they're bigger than you? Right?

1:19:48

Yeah, in college already and stuff like that in high

1:19:50

school? Oh my god, damn. But um,

1:19:52

but like you said, like, like, um, you know, I know

1:19:54

somebody on my team. I ain't gonna call him. I ain't gonna say his

1:19:56

name though, but he got one of the worst bodies

1:19:58

ever, bro. But he's from He one of the most athletic

1:20:01

motherfucker's you just compliment.

1:20:04

I can't do that to my dude. But he

1:20:08

could move with Ben and you'll look

1:20:10

at him and be like, but when he gets

1:20:12

out there in space and plays, man, he's one of the best

1:20:14

in the game at what he does too. And he got probably

1:20:16

one of the worst bodies ever though, but he won the best. That's

1:20:19

just that's just the way it is. It's just something you

1:20:21

build. Like they look at me sometimes they were like, I'll

1:20:24

take my shot and that motherfucker know football

1:20:26

player, But when I get out there, Ship, I'm

1:20:28

looking like a sweet feet athlete, you know what I mean, Like like

1:20:30

like you know what I'm saying, Like it's it's stuff.

1:20:32

You guys are freaks, yeah, you know, like

1:20:34

do your offensive lineman or like we talked about the Antonio

1:20:37

Browns and yours, Like you guys are fucking

1:20:39

freaks. Yeah, you know. I got Gabe Jackson my

1:20:41

right guard. He's he's sucking strong and ship like.

1:20:43

He's from Mississippi. He's just a

1:20:45

big strong ox And I got Ko next

1:20:47

to me and he's just a big strong ox

1:20:49

man and we jail together. We

1:20:51

have fun together. We

1:20:54

talked, shipped to each other all the damn time.

1:20:56

You gotta have thick skin to be in our room.

1:20:58

Um, you know, uh looking

1:21:00

forward to this first round rookie coming because you don't have a lot

1:21:02

of money. So I can't wait for the old line that uh

1:21:05

that rookie dinner and uh, you know, make

1:21:08

them bring them snacks in, make him get his food on the on

1:21:10

the road trips and stuff like that. But you know,

1:21:12

old line mean, it's not easy. I'm not gonna

1:21:14

say it's easy, you know. And the way the

1:21:16

way the world is now, man, it's like

1:21:19

everybody just trained their kids to be football

1:21:21

players and be there. Like with my kid, I'm like, man, go

1:21:24

have fun, Go play what you want to play. Well, decide

1:21:26

that ship when you get older, man, getting baseball,

1:21:28

get to base on, get your football, and get your basketball. Well,

1:21:30

I'm not gonna predetermine nothing, man, like just go because

1:21:33

I like I growling, I thought it was woulna be an NBA. I wanted to be

1:21:35

an NBA. You know, look like about twelve years

1:21:37

and playing football. So you know,

1:21:39

like you look at some of these kids, like some

1:21:42

kids can I cant have that? Bro? Like, but I want to be going to tell

1:21:44

the parents like, like like, brother, I'm chilling like you got, I'm in football

1:21:46

year around, you know what I mean? Like let them let them

1:21:48

chill, you know what I mean? I feel like, you know some of

1:21:50

them guys that do get older and get

1:21:52

a lot of injuries just because they got wore down as a kid,

1:21:55

you know what I mean. Like, you gotta be able to

1:21:56

just to play have some fun sometime.

1:21:58

Man, I ain't train, train, try and then'll be a kid,

1:22:00

right, I agree? I agree? Um,

1:22:04

you mentioned Vaen Miller, You mentioned some names.

1:22:07

Who what are the other linebackers, other

1:22:09

defensive ends throughout your career that

1:22:12

you're just like, I I need to get some sleep,

1:22:14

uh, and I need to get in the film

1:22:16

room. That you've played against it it's just like,

1:22:19

are just good at their craft. That's

1:22:21

another thing to be a good off in the line. You gotta

1:22:23

study. You gotta study film. I watched film

1:22:26

a lot, And what are you watching for? I'm

1:22:28

I don't. I don't watch too much of the Run

1:22:31

Game because I feel like the Run Game, you just gotta

1:22:33

be better than the other man. He's got that one and more.

1:22:35

You gotta be there. But like when I'm going against those

1:22:37

good dans, I watched a pass, I watched

1:22:39

a pass rush moves all the time you're watching

1:22:41

the guy you're going again, Yeah, so I anticipate

1:22:44

and but what are you looking for? Like how he comes

1:22:46

off, like what side he favors? Like what are you looking

1:22:48

for? Yeah, I'm looking for his

1:22:51

moves. If he's a if

1:22:53

he's a bull rush guy, if he's a one armed

1:22:56

guy, if he's if he has a

1:22:58

spin, because you always gotta be ready for in like

1:23:00

von got won the sick of spins ever, right,

1:23:02

you always gotta be ready for the spin. So I

1:23:04

know, if I'm going on his vine, I can't ever lean too much

1:23:07

because if he hits me with that spin, I'm leaning. I'm done,

1:23:09

you know. So it's it's a little stuff like that,

1:23:11

um um, how they come off or they just upp

1:23:13

a field rusher, or do they take the inside

1:23:15

if you give it to him? So I always be ready. Okay, if they get

1:23:17

the inside more, I gotta jump it, you know what I mean. You

1:23:20

know, I try to watch, you know, some of the schemes

1:23:23

too, because you know, if I see okay, if I see this guy come

1:23:25

down here. Oh, I know he's gonna go inside, you know what I

1:23:27

mean. So I'll be ready. I'll react faster, you know what I mean.

1:23:29

If I see that lineback come over here, Oh that's that bliss.

1:23:31

They are about to run. You know, I canticipate stuff

1:23:33

better, you know what I'm saying. But

1:23:36

but yeah, but but some of them then it's like like you said,

1:23:38

like, man, when I first got to leave, John Abraham was giving

1:23:40

me the blues. Man, like when

1:23:42

I first man, when I first got the leg with Tampa,

1:23:45

I was like, I think my first four times playing

1:23:47

with him, he got a sack in each game. And I

1:23:49

mean after that, like I started, I started

1:23:51

fighting. I started fighting, I started learning, then I started

1:23:54

doing. You know, Peppers was a beast when I first got

1:23:56

there. My first start in the NFL IS against

1:23:58

the White Freeny and Indiapolis.

1:24:00

I was my first startup my career. And I

1:24:02

mean, and that dude was that dude and his

1:24:04

prime was was a man and he

1:24:06

was fast. Yeah, man, he

1:24:09

fast, had to spin had the bull rush, he had

1:24:11

everything he was set to spin up off the

1:24:13

bull rush. So you'd be trying sell on the bull rust and his spin.

1:24:15

But you know, I was an eye opener. That was a

1:24:17

great learning learning thing on that game. And

1:24:20

then, uh, you know another dude that people sleep

1:24:22

on, you know, the markets Ware. You know, I

1:24:24

played him in college twice and played

1:24:26

him I played probably I don't know how many times in the league.

1:24:29

But that's my that's he's a good boy, right, He one

1:24:31

of my good friends. But but he's a beast.

1:24:34

He's a beast. And then you know in my conference

1:24:36

right now, ain't too many left tackles signed up

1:24:38

to come to the NFC West, you know, because every Sunday

1:24:40

you gotta you gotta played Vughn twice a year. You gott played

1:24:42

justin Houston twice a year. You know, I mean, you gotta

1:24:44

play um Melvin Ingram and

1:24:46

a lot of people sleep man Joey Bosa, He nice man.

1:24:48

A lot of people sleep on him. He nice man. Joey both

1:24:50

got a lot of moves, man. You know. So ain't like left

1:24:53

tackles running to the FC. What you gotta have a

1:24:55

certain mindset, certain mentality to be able

1:24:57

to uh, to play in our conference. I love

1:24:59

it. I love this ship. I love this ship. My

1:25:02

man, Crabtree Michael

1:25:04

fucking Crafty and I met him and I was

1:25:06

like, because I funk with Crabtree. Why

1:25:09

does he drive every cornerback

1:25:11

deep? Why does every defensive player in the NFL

1:25:13

seemed to hate my man and Michael Crafty? Are

1:25:15

they mad because he's he's like a pretty boy, he

1:25:18

got his chain, says what happened that game?

1:25:20

That got out of hand? And like just the first questions,

1:25:23

why is everyone hating on my man Crabtree?

1:25:25

Now I don't know, man, crab my boy, Man c good

1:25:29

dude, Man's good player. Crab

1:25:31

Funny is hell too. Man. If y'all see that, I'm

1:25:33

talking Crapy Funny and hell, you're good dude. You know.

1:25:36

The bad thing is I hate seeing it because I

1:25:38

keep to leave. Is one of my best friends. One of my good

1:25:40

friends. Man. Our families are like this. You know, we played

1:25:42

Tampa together and like seeing that, it's

1:25:45

just it's just crazy, man, don't

1:25:47

I don't even just question. I mean they've been competing

1:25:50

this high school. They went to Royal High School in Dallas that

1:25:53

beaten since high school? You know what I mean? So did

1:25:55

they never say that? Yeah? So it goes back.

1:25:57

They they're both from the same city and stuff like that.

1:25:59

But you know it's sad. It hurts me because I'm

1:26:01

like, man, yo, both my boys, I try

1:26:03

to, you know, keep a calm between between both

1:26:05

of them, you know what I mean. But you know, you know, Crap

1:26:08

Crap a great receiver, man, you know what.

1:26:10

I'm sad to see him go, to be honest with all,

1:26:12

sad to see him go. Man, he gonna he's gonna bounce

1:26:14

back, um in Baltimore, Man, because he got a great quarterback

1:26:16

with flat and stuff, and he finds the

1:26:18

ball, the ball finds him and he got some of the best

1:26:20

chance. He got some of the best hands in the NFL. Man.

1:26:23

I'm a Misscrap though, but man, I got a

1:26:25

lot, a lot of love for Crap. But but I don't

1:26:27

know, man, I think people always tried to try Crab.

1:26:30

But you know what. The one thing about Crab though, Um

1:26:32

he talked, he talked with his play. I agree,

1:26:34

he talked with his play. I agree because that was something

1:26:37

I mean, and and that I kinda I kind of

1:26:39

man that that she was kind of growing over. I was like, man,

1:26:41

that game, you knew it was gonna told Key before the y'all

1:26:43

like keep im like, I'm like, just chill. He's

1:26:46

not chilling. And then you know, and

1:26:48

then you know already knew. I could see him crab

1:26:50

eyes and the hud. I'm like, funk, I'm like god ship

1:26:53

the early and again, I'm like, damn,

1:26:55

I'm like that she got bad for it was bad. It

1:26:57

was. I mean, there's nothing dope about

1:27:00

I mean, you're you're a vet. Football

1:27:02

fights to me are the dumbest thing ever because

1:27:06

I get the emotion and the violence and and

1:27:08

the adrenaline. I get that, but it's like, you

1:27:10

got helmets on, you got pads

1:27:12

on, there's really nowhere to hit, Like do

1:27:14

you get any ship? Like what was that something? Anybody grabbed

1:27:17

your didn't by grab your mask? I gotta I

1:27:19

gotta fight with Jared Allen a couple of years ago

1:27:21

on Thursday Night Football. He's

1:27:24

a fucking character too, right, Yeah, I got a lot of

1:27:26

respect for Jared though. You're you're a good player though,

1:27:28

but you know, Jared robbed me the wrong

1:27:30

way early in my career, and uh, you

1:27:33

know it's always balloon ballon and uh

1:27:35

you know that game. I one time

1:27:37

we were playing in Tampa and I was talking

1:27:40

ship to him, cose we want that motherfucker hit me with her,

1:27:42

he said, he said, don't talk to me till you make it across

1:27:44

the water. I'm like, fuck right,

1:27:47

like make it to the y probo. I'm like, damn, I'm gonna su

1:27:49

just shut me up, put me in my place, you know what I mean? And

1:27:51

then, uh, I made the Pro Bowl like two years

1:27:54

later, so we played them again. Some motherfucker. I made the Pro Bowl,

1:27:56

now, you know, I mean, I made across that motherfucker water.

1:27:59

But we had a game. We're batoon battling,

1:28:01

battling, and you know, you

1:28:04

know, he, uh, he got mad when

1:28:06

I tried to. I tried to you know what. You know me, I'm

1:28:08

a physical dude. You know, if I can get you, I gonna trying to finish you. So

1:28:10

I try to finish you, and he tried to. He tried to grab

1:28:13

me. You know, I knocked his helmet off. We started. I

1:28:15

felt like a little as Kido because he's holding my face man,

1:28:17

and I'm like this swinging and

1:28:20

I couldn't see nothing and I'm swaying that.

1:28:22

Uh. You know. It was crazy too because

1:28:25

we were winning thursdaynight football, And I mean that

1:28:27

stadium got so fucking

1:28:30

loud because the next play they

1:28:32

ran a fucking stunt and my Garden

1:28:35

didn't come off inside and he got a sucking sack.

1:28:37

The very next play that stadium

1:28:39

got so fucking loud he did this little thing.

1:28:41

We ended up still winning, though, but I was like, I'm

1:28:43

looking at my guard. I'm like, man,

1:28:46

then why did you knocked you off? Why did

1:28:48

you going there again? And that was the last

1:28:50

game of my guards career season two

1:28:53

because he had a foot injury. He's like, mean, I couldn't playing

1:28:55

off that ship. You know, he's playing through it, so I

1:28:57

couldn't playing off that foot to go back. So it's kind of

1:28:59

like but in my I don't like, man, fun like because

1:29:01

you didn't want to get it. I don't want to get ship

1:29:03

that. Yeah, you know what I mean. But but but that's another

1:29:05

dude that that's a fucking that was a fucking baller man, Like

1:29:08

I had to. I had to. I had to bring my lunchpill that

1:29:10

that game time Jared, every time I played j And I to

1:29:12

bring my lunch pill. I had to watch a lot of film on them,

1:29:14

you know, That's what I said, you know that's old, old,

1:29:16

old news and stuff. I got tremendous respect

1:29:19

for him, you know what I mean. That's one thing I do. Man, That's

1:29:21

one thing about me. I don't fear nobody,

1:29:23

but I respect a lot of motherfucker's um.

1:29:27

You seem like you talk ship a

1:29:30

lot. I not

1:29:32

died down my older age now because you gotta

1:29:34

keep your winning right, keep I gotta give your away, keep going.

1:29:37

You know, I'll be like I'll be watching that like damn, I'm

1:29:39

gonna getting into it like that used to be me. But one

1:29:41

thing I don't do, Bro, if you ever see me like, one thing I don't

1:29:43

do, Bro, you don't suck on my quarterback in

1:29:46

terms of what actually lay anything. You don't

1:29:48

suck my quarterback. I'll get on your as quick

1:29:50

I don't. I don't play that ship like. That's one thing I don't play,

1:29:52

and I don't play with most of my teammates. Man. I always

1:29:55

do no chief to my team, and I'm gonna be on your ship, you

1:29:57

know what I mean. I were one time some dude pushing to see how the

1:30:00

out the fucking out of bounds late

1:30:02

and I'm on the other side of field, I walked all

1:30:04

the way up to that motherfucker. They had to get me back to the huddle

1:30:06

because the time was running. I went all the up

1:30:08

to push the ship out, like, don't hit that motherfucker.

1:30:11

They don't suck my dude, like that's my quarterback,

1:30:13

Like I'll protect DC. That's

1:30:15

my dog. Like even if one of my dog, any of my quarterbacks.

1:30:17

They always tell you like DP always got my

1:30:19

motherfucking back. I don't. I don't that ship slide?

1:30:22

Who? Who? Who are the players that

1:30:25

throughout your career? Uh? That talk

1:30:27

you said? Jared talk shit? You know you could tell

1:30:29

his personality. He seemed like he talked ship all

1:30:31

the way through. Who are the other players that you've played

1:30:34

against? Uh that we or or

1:30:36

even on on your team? That just the big ship

1:30:38

talkers Because you know I'm the king of talking

1:30:40

shit. But but I mean, you guys are really

1:30:42

doing it. So who are the guys that, like, you know, like are loud

1:30:45

talking shit? Uh? Fletcher Cox

1:30:48

from uh from Philly, he talked

1:30:50

a lot of ship. I ain't playing him that much, but but

1:30:52

when I do play, I'm always talking Uh.

1:30:55

Um what's his name?

1:30:57

From Denver? When the linebackers from damer I don't remember. They

1:31:00

want the line back from Dinver. He'd be talking a lot

1:31:02

of ship. I'm gonna miss the funk up. Like make a play first,

1:31:04

you start talking ship, you know what I mean? Me

1:31:09

shout on my team, man, on my team now, like on

1:31:12

my team now, like our old line, like

1:31:14

we don't start ship, but you start some ship with we're

1:31:16

gonna finish it. That's one thing I like about.

1:31:18

We got one the best old lines in the NFL, and we're

1:31:21

gonna start ship, but we'll finish it. If you try to start some ship

1:31:23

and some people that try to start some ship and that then

1:31:25

the game they'll be working quiet, you know what I mean,

1:31:28

Like like like you know what I mean, like like you need

1:31:30

to chill the funk out. But you

1:31:32

know I love I I even growing

1:31:35

up. Like but he was always on offense, man,

1:31:37

mother fu. Steve Smith talks so much ship. He

1:31:39

did, and he was offense. But I love watching

1:31:41

them plays like that about the funding up full he talks

1:31:43

so much ship. Uh. And he's a little

1:31:46

dude. My boy, my boy Marcus s Peters, he was talking

1:31:48

a little ship too, and like like they're gonna be tough

1:31:50

the raums. Yeah you know what I mean im Yeah.

1:31:53

T J. War talk a lot of ship. My

1:31:55

boy too. He look a lot of ship to t J. Ward

1:31:57

talking a lot of ship. Uh, keep

1:32:01

you talking to a little bit. He I think he liked me

1:32:03

to calm down since and getting older. You know, ship

1:32:05

come down last year he was sucking on it. Yeah.

1:32:09

But yeah and on our team. You know,

1:32:11

one thing about one thing about Marshan. He don't talk. He

1:32:13

don'ta say ship doing again? Right? He seems like he

1:32:15

doesn't say after When I'll be trying to

1:32:17

jump on when he's scoring ship, he wants to shake my hand out,

1:32:20

I'll be like, because he hate when I do that. I'll be trying to grab

1:32:22

him and he hate that ship. So I'll be doing on purpose.

1:32:24

But mar Shan mar Shin

1:32:26

has seen my Shan gets smacked by somebody and

1:32:29

on the ground I'm laying down next to on the ground, He's like,

1:32:32

good motherfuckering hit hitt dude on the here. I'm like to

1:32:34

smack the ship out of you. He's like, good motherfucker here

1:32:36

hitting ude on the here. He typed up about it. Yeah,

1:32:38

like like like you know, what I mean. And then when he runs somebody

1:32:41

over, he'll get hired. But but if somebody hit him

1:32:43

hard, he'll tell you like like good ship, way to

1:32:45

bring that she said about time, you know what I mean, Like i'd

1:32:47

be like not the only time he really talk you don't. You don't

1:32:49

talk about ship, but he he comes to play. That's one thing I

1:32:51

like about the mother. He comes to play.

1:32:53

But I'll be like like last year, like watching

1:32:55

him, like sometimes I had like I'm

1:32:58

watching, let me keep blocking like

1:33:00

ship, I'm watching them like you know, I'm not watching. Let

1:33:02

me keep blocking. Get somebody down, feel like I got

1:33:04

myself watching sometimes like damn, this motherfucker is

1:33:07

a beast. You know. I always always wanted to play with him

1:33:09

man, and then finally play him last year. I'm like I

1:33:11

said, let me keep blocking up watching

1:33:14

sometime like you know what I mean, Like this motherfucker's he's

1:33:16

really like you could see his aggressive like you as

1:33:19

alignment. You could tell the difference like when he compared

1:33:22

to some other people, like his feet never

1:33:24

stopped moving like his craigy, Like you

1:33:26

know the same thing I would have been running thinking

1:33:28

he down and I gotta speedback up, like,

1:33:30

oh, he's still going, like you know what I mean, Like like he's

1:33:34

special, He's special. I love that. Um

1:33:37

tell me a huddle. Who's

1:33:40

doing the talking besides your quarterback

1:33:42

Derek Carr? Like like, well, what is it like? Again?

1:33:45

This is like we could sit here and talk about I study

1:33:47

this, and I watched this and fucking analysts

1:33:49

and experts and all these fucking stats and all

1:33:51

this ship an NFL huddle?

1:33:54

What what what is going on in there? Like it's third

1:33:57

and three? You know you're in in

1:34:00

in Minnesota. It's loud as ship, Like

1:34:02

what is that liking there? It's

1:34:04

a lot of there's a lot of deep breathing

1:34:06

going on. It's

1:34:09

a lot of deep breathing, especially on the line. I mean I

1:34:12

used playing as a gay before they moved in the right guard, I

1:34:14

used have to face the other way because

1:34:17

he's when I was in hell, I was in helling his breath,

1:34:19

So I have to face the other way so I should catch my breath,

1:34:22

like because here were breathing so hard and I'm I'm

1:34:24

like, damn, like I gotta get some real

1:34:26

fresh area. Not the turn, but you know in our

1:34:28

hold d C, do you know one thing about our team, man, Like

1:34:31

I'm I'm the oldest guy on the team now since Sea

1:34:33

Bass left and d

1:34:35

C and Khalil's are captains, they are leaders,

1:34:37

you know what I mean? For them to be so young and

1:34:40

be so mature at such a young age, just like damn,

1:34:43

I sit back, I sit back. I just won't worry more

1:34:45

about me, you know what I mean. Like I'm like, they got it,

1:34:47

you know what I mean? But now, how you know DC is probably

1:34:49

doing most He's doing most of talking. Then, um, you

1:34:51

know, are sin a rod? You know, no, he'll do

1:34:53

something talking because you know, he got to make sure he's

1:34:55

one that puts us in the right spotting and him and DC always gotta

1:34:57

be on the same page. So he might do something like and

1:35:00

stuff ain't going right. You know, I might come up like, come on, guy,

1:35:02

who gotta make a play here? Like, come on, guys, let's get it. Man.

1:35:04

I'll be like, you know, I look at the sticks

1:35:06

eight, third and three. Make sure I'll get the sticks third and three,

1:35:08

and like you know sometimes and two men, I'll remind

1:35:10

the guys like, hey, make sure you get out of bounce, you know

1:35:12

what I mean. Make sure you got bounced. Uh, and then

1:35:14

like you know, sometimes you know when we're gonna form, and I'll

1:35:17

tell the running backs, you know, make sure you hold make

1:35:19

sure hold onto the rock to it. I'd be like oldline, make sure

1:35:21

we're going clean it up because you know they're gonna

1:35:23

try shoot the ball, you know what I mean. Forming and stuff like

1:35:25

little reminders. I might I might do some stuff like that,

1:35:27

but usually you know, it's just DC and maybe Rod

1:35:30

telling us, like we might be talking about protection

1:35:32

coming up, or you know, you know with with

1:35:34

our offense, there's so much ship in the offense,

1:35:36

like sometimes you might need you might forget

1:35:39

something and be like, hey, hey, what's that again? Okay, you

1:35:41

know you got the other guys. Yeah

1:35:43

this other guys like what's that again? Like because there's so much

1:35:45

ship and you're thinking about so much other stuff, so it

1:35:47

might be like like one time we was a game

1:35:50

they they called uh, you

1:35:53

know, we called it we changed to play. I

1:35:55

looked at my doing as I said, I said, what the fun going?

1:35:57

Like, you know, you have to tell them I forgot.

1:36:00

I had a brain fart, you know, okay,

1:36:03

I got, I got. You have to be like highly like

1:36:05

like the listening is so much a part of the toughest

1:36:07

thing is when we play away. Man, I'm staying to be so loud.

1:36:10

What's the loudest ones? Like, give me the three loudest

1:36:12

places. Kansas City is louder than a bit.

1:36:15

New Orleans Dome is loud um.

1:36:19

Minnesota was loud as fuck. Um, Kansas

1:36:22

City get louder than a mother like

1:36:25

no, Seattle, Seattle is a loudest one

1:36:28

time? Can you hear the quarterback at the line? No, I

1:36:30

remember one time said I I ain't hear DC voice of

1:36:32

the second quarter. I swear I don't

1:36:34

hear DC voice. So how are you getting the snap that the

1:36:37

mording at the ball? We're going off the silent

1:36:39

like like I gotta say, like I'm not gonna

1:36:41

say it though, but like if you know that

1:36:43

one I looked one, one thousand, I go because

1:36:47

you can't hear ship. Yeah, we go off like you know,

1:36:49

head movements. We got certain little things, you

1:36:51

know what I mean, Like like because you know when it's

1:36:53

loud, the guard looks back and

1:36:55

when you see DC lift his head, he chats the center

1:36:57

and then whatever he does. I try to go

1:37:00

off of that because you can understand up

1:37:02

a split second late, I'm getting beat them

1:37:05

them. Then they're looking at the ball, they're flying

1:37:07

off, you know what I mean. So I gotta be on points. So they're

1:37:09

like when we're playing a loud, loud stadium sometimes

1:37:12

right, rocket mad sometimes, but we'll be sitting the back when

1:37:14

we're not up. I'd be like, Row, just do the just do the movement for

1:37:16

me, and I do it just to getting the time. Just do

1:37:18

the moment for me, and He'll just stand there and do

1:37:21

it, you know, just just I gotta because if if

1:37:23

I go in the game I fe uncomfortable with with the with

1:37:25

the side of the snap count, it's gonna be a problem. I got to

1:37:27

go in the game comfortable, you know what I mean. So even

1:37:29

before the games of time, we'll be on the sideline where they

1:37:31

before they do national Rod, just give it to me a couple more

1:37:33

times. Okay, all right, I got it, I got

1:37:36

it right, Yeah, Because you

1:37:38

know that that's why they that's why they get so loud,

1:37:40

you know what I mean, Because they try to. That's that's like they

1:37:43

want you exactly. They want you going off late.

1:37:46

Well, I remember when we play Seattle

1:37:48

once. I adn't hear DC. Honestly did not hear DC's

1:37:50

voice until the second quarter. That's crazy. Yeah,

1:37:52

it was. It was just so loud. They were so loud, Like you

1:37:55

know, we started, we started moving the ball a little and so calm

1:37:57

down a little bit, but when they were up and rocking,

1:37:59

like, I ain't boys whole

1:38:01

first cor um last season.

1:38:03

I think it was last season. Uh, it's

1:38:06

something that made outside of football and I

1:38:08

loved it. You were in Oakland

1:38:11

and you're getting heckled by you had the role.

1:38:13

By the way, did you come in the roles today? I came

1:38:15

in, Uh, the four by four g ship.

1:38:17

I wanted you to come up in the roles. You

1:38:19

were leaving the stadium. What happened with

1:38:21

the fan? Like? Were you walking a thway? What was

1:38:23

the guy saying? I was when I was

1:38:26

driving, I was driving through and you

1:38:29

know it's using never for some reason, it was

1:38:31

stopped right there. It's usually always just smoothed out

1:38:33

for some ready stop and you're in Oakland. Yeah,

1:38:35

and I'm I'm texting while I'm stopped. I'm looking at

1:38:37

my phone. You know, I gotta hell of messages. I'm looking at my phone and

1:38:40

I see some fly across my my whishield.

1:38:43

So I look out and I don't know if he threw

1:38:45

it or not, but I'll look out and I see

1:38:47

mother fu like like,

1:38:51

oh, I'm not me. I don't know if he threw it or not, but I just saw hopped

1:38:53

out the car and I went over there and yeah,

1:38:56

and he was like, he kept saying

1:38:58

one meal twenty one me between when meal

1:39:00

you ain't worth it. I was like, like, bro, I started

1:39:03

I started cousing out, and I'm like, what the fund are

1:39:05

you doing? Like like you're looking serious. I was like, I

1:39:07

was like, I would really beat your fucking ass, like for real.

1:39:09

And then I started looking around and this

1:39:11

boy was videotaping, and I saw

1:39:13

some other people video tape back, and I honestly said

1:39:16

this in my head, I promised you. I said this to myself.

1:39:18

I said, now, what the fund are you doing? Get your ass back

1:39:20

in this fucking car. I said, you're doing what they fucking

1:39:22

want. I like, I turned around, I got back in car,

1:39:24

like if you see the video, you can see me look, and I paused. I

1:39:27

was like, I like, what the fund is you doing? Down? Get your back

1:39:29

in the fucking car, you know what I mean. So I went

1:39:31

back and got back. Man, if I could go go back and do it all

1:39:34

over a game, I would never got off the car. I would just

1:39:36

last slide. I was pissed because we lost that

1:39:38

close game in San Diego that we should have won. And

1:39:40

then I saw some fly across my car. I don't even know if

1:39:42

it was a dude that, if it was him that threw it, but

1:39:45

that's a rude ship. When I look out that I was seeing

1:39:47

with his hands up like this talking, you know, point of ship.

1:39:49

So I don't MANE think it was him though, But you

1:39:51

know, you live and you learn. That's that's one lesson I'm gonna learn

1:39:53

from. You know, I'm not going forward, you know, I just

1:39:56

left. She saw it a lot, a lot. You know, you got

1:39:58

people on social med that, you

1:40:00

know, you got these social media thugs and ship like that, and

1:40:02

then ship and

1:40:04

then when you see them, they'll ask for an autograph of our

1:40:06

picture. You know. But um, you know, I just

1:40:09

learned to, you know, just block them and

1:40:11

uh, you know, just keep it keep it going,

1:40:13

you know, ship. I'm a old lineman. I block

1:40:15

for a living. So I'll block your ass on social media, quit,

1:40:17

you know what I mean. But yeah,

1:40:20

dude, the fans of Raid Nation fans, I love

1:40:22

them. They're so pass But we got

1:40:24

some of the greatest fans ever. Man. Like, Like

1:40:27

when I was in Tampa, I rarely in

1:40:29

l A. You know, had people come up to your Tampa

1:40:32

a lot. But now Radar fans like all

1:40:35

the time I'm in a grocery store, I'm in just

1:40:37

running the liquor store real fast. It's

1:40:40

it's everywhere, you know what I mean. It's like, as I

1:40:42

was out last night and I saw a gang Raider

1:40:44

fans like it's just a Raider fans are everywhere.

1:40:47

I'll be in Mexico on vacation, Raider fans come