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It's frustrating if you keep trying
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to stop drinking, but you're not
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succeeding. We've discussed the brain changes
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that make it more difficult in
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a few recent episodes, but there
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are other factors that determine whether
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someone get sober or not. To
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in this episode will discuss why
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there are differences in how people
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handle the same life circumstances and
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dressers and what determines whether you
0:25
will be resilient in the face
0:27
of stress and her job or
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not. You'll also learn about epigenetic
0:32
changes that make it more difficult
0:34
to be resilient and how your
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family, friends, and support system plays
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a role in. Before we do
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know, my husband had an unexpected
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did. He decided to go on
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a run. It was a simple
2:32
choice, but running help him cope
2:34
with this dress instead of trying
2:36
to stuff it and ignore it
2:39
or drone it was alcohol, food,
2:41
or drugs. We get confused and
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we think that because we've had
2:45
a lot of bad things happen
2:47
to us, that it makes us
2:50
resilient. We call ourselves strong, but
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resilience is. About how you handle
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the things that happen to you,
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not just having a bunch of
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things happened to you and and
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same as as someone who used
3:02
to call myself strong all the
3:04
time, I had a lot of
3:06
bad things happen to me and
3:08
my life, but I didn't deal
3:10
with any of them until I
3:12
got sober. Before that, I'd use
3:14
self destructive coping mechanisms to attempt
3:16
to soothe myself. Really is I
3:18
just made the problem worse. Resilience
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is the dealing with it is
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not. Just having a lot of bad
3:24
things. So more specifically, Resilience
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is defined as the ability
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to bend but not break,
3:32
to bounce back and to
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adapt well in the face
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of adversity, trauma, tragedy, or
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significant source of stress drinking,
3:41
or but off whenever we
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have a problem. Is. Not
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resilience, I've been sober a
3:49
long enough to have bad things
3:51
happen to me in my sobriety,
3:53
and I've even had a few
3:55
similar things happen to me while
3:57
I was drinking and in sobriety.
4:00
Second, really compare my response and
4:02
the outcome. Obviously the way that
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I handle it is different. Now
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what would I think? The most
4:08
important differences is how I respond
4:11
when the thing happens. Like
4:13
my immediate response, I don't
4:15
flip out start feeling sorry
4:17
for my. Sales. Or become
4:19
the intense. I stay calm, problem
4:21
solve, and immediately start thinking about
4:24
the future and how I'm gonna
4:26
handle this. What keeps coming up
4:28
for me and my research on
4:30
resilience is the role of social
4:33
support. Social support can help us
4:35
feel like we're loved, respected and
4:37
cared for by others and that
4:39
people can give us advice or
4:42
just listen to his van. A
4:44
two thousand and eleven study on
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deployed veterans looked at three groups.
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A control group with low
4:51
combat exposure and low Ptsd
4:53
symptoms of Ptsd Group with
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high current lunatics. In
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Hi Pete Beef in a
5:01
resilient. Group who is high
5:03
combat exposure and. Ptsd
5:05
symptoms be resilient, group was
5:08
more likely to be in
5:10
a relationship, had greater perceptions.
5:12
Of purpose and control more
5:15
family support. And felt. Like
5:17
their family understood them were there
5:19
is any group. Also had last
5:22
psycho social issues with your things
5:24
like depression, anxiety so mental health
5:26
conditions can make us less resilient
5:29
which is out of our control.
5:31
But all that means as we
5:34
have to work a little bit
5:36
harder at shifting our perspective and
5:38
would look if you have Ptsd.
5:41
I am not saying that it
5:43
is because Usac I have also
5:46
struggled with. Ptsd. And
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I don't think it's because I
5:50
suck side as want that to
5:52
be Claire. So this is an
5:55
example of functional support or we
5:57
feel like our support system understands.
6:00
And this is more strongly related
6:02
to resilience than the amount of
6:04
people in your support system or
6:06
how many tasks they can do
6:08
for you or meals they can
6:10
cook for you. Being understood is
6:12
important and this was always my
6:15
barrier to reaching out to others.
6:17
I make an assessment that they
6:19
will not understand. They might be
6:21
reactive, they might make it all
6:23
about themselves for it just would
6:25
be able to be there for
6:27
me in the way that I
6:29
mean these feelings. Make me isolated,
6:31
keep things to myself which
6:33
makes us less resilient. And
6:35
this is why getting support
6:37
in sobriety is so good.
6:39
Because you find a support
6:41
system where you truly feel
6:43
understood. It's a bunch of
6:45
people that think and behave
6:48
the exact same way you
6:50
do. Resilience begins in childhood
6:52
so again out of our
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control by a comes from
6:56
an environment and care giving
6:58
conditions that are loving, emotionally,
7:00
responsible, Consistent and
7:02
reliable. These. Environments also
7:05
hope. Is is he gave it.
7:07
Feel free to read. You need
7:09
a new she's? She's She's. Cute.
7:15
Huge Mean. Maintain friendships
7:17
and intimate. Relationships and develop
7:19
a real estate and positive
7:21
sense of self efficacy and
7:23
all of those skills are
7:25
associated with resilience. One, the
7:28
home environment is highly stressful
7:30
and chaotic. There are a
7:32
few consequences of this for
7:34
both animals and humans. We
7:36
become more at risk for
7:38
developing an exaggerated sympathetic nervous
7:40
system and exaggerated H P
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A access which if you
7:45
listen to episode to all
7:47
on that. Control stress
7:49
and exaggerated emotional and
7:52
behavioral responses to stressors.
7:54
So these exaggerated responses
7:56
can make us feel
7:59
overwhelmed. In In we need
8:01
something external like alcohol to a camp
8:03
to read. Doing it ourselves. Many
8:06
personality features are her radical but
8:08
your environment can impact how your
8:10
personality is expressed. I told my
8:12
boy and story another podcast before
8:14
and I'll less two of them
8:17
and the show nose for you
8:19
to check out if you don't.
8:21
Know it but something that I
8:23
always say his ears. Of being
8:26
bullied made me of weird. It
8:28
completely change my personality from a
8:30
sweet l gone friendly little girl.
8:33
To someone in mistrusting
8:35
who always expect the
8:37
worst inferred ship. In
8:39
fact away their genes are
8:41
expressed in a process called
8:44
epigenetics. There's some hundred and
8:46
said or social environment can
8:48
influence or stress response system
8:50
at the genetic level and
8:52
that these changes can be
8:54
a long lasting. This is
8:57
something I learned and my
8:59
crisis intervention training to. We
9:01
need caregivers who are reliable
9:03
and consistent or I can
9:05
cause severe issues for us.
9:07
the reliability and consistency. Of
9:10
your support system beyond your caregivers
9:12
also has an impact. So I
9:14
learn that people and let me
9:16
down that they can be trusted.
9:18
They would eventually leave and not
9:20
likely anymore and issues' reinforce. For
9:23
years and years now it's a
9:25
core belief that I have to
9:27
fight. I can't say how it
9:29
impacted my genetics, but I know
9:31
that stresses the reason I began
9:34
drinking. There have been a lot
9:36
of animal studies on Abby genetic.
9:38
some resilience, Repeatedly exposing least
9:40
two more aggressive my
9:42
for ten days straight
9:45
results. In the stress mice avoiding
9:47
other mice, showing less interest in
9:49
things they normally enjoy and even
9:51
becoming obese. They seem to have
9:54
a pleasure and eating but then
9:56
they also eat more. Some mice
9:58
become less at of. No
10:01
other symptoms and when researchers take
10:03
a look at their brains, they
10:06
can see differences on the reward
10:08
recognition, which is a factor in
10:10
developing an addiction. Researchers can also
10:13
make a my some more resilient
10:15
by blocking or inducing certain epigenetic
10:18
changes. Some of these changes last
10:20
for their entire lifespan. Rap baby
10:22
is that are rarely groomed by
10:25
their mothers, are less adventurous, and
10:27
they put up less of a
10:29
fight. In unpleasant situation is
10:32
so this would be like
10:34
learned helplessness. And when they have
10:36
their own babies are less nurturing. Towards
10:38
their babies, the genes that
10:41
these animal studies have identified
10:43
also show up in humans.
10:46
For example, people that commit
10:48
suicide who experienced childhood trauma
10:51
have a be genetic modification.
10:53
Some people who died from
10:56
suicide with a normal childhood
10:58
don't have social support from
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learn healthy behaviors feel understood.
11:03
Evaluate stressful events as less
11:05
threatening. Enhancer sense of
11:08
self control. Increase self
11:10
esteem in use. Healthy
11:12
coping skills. rejection and loneliness
11:14
activate many of the same
11:17
systems in the brain and
11:19
physical threats and fear Dale
11:21
people that have low social
11:24
support who experienced trauma are
11:26
more likely to develop Ptsd
11:28
and matter analysis studies have
11:30
found this to be a
11:33
consistent risk factor for the
11:35
development of Ptsd and positive
11:37
social support activates the parasympathetic
11:40
nervous system which inhibits. The
11:42
fear based systems from activating say
11:44
explain the nervous system in more
11:46
detail on Episode One Forty Nine
11:48
and I'll reference out in the
11:50
show notes if you forget, but
11:52
the parasympathetic nervous system helps us
11:55
day com. There's a lotta evidence
11:57
that one of the most effective
11:59
ways to. Butcher you become more
12:01
resilient is to focus on the
12:03
well being and parenting skills of
12:05
the pair. And to this comes.
12:07
From the parents learning how to understand
12:10
and meet their own needs to not
12:12
just meet the needs of their children
12:14
as adults, we can increase our resilience
12:16
by taking a look at our support
12:18
system. I know it feels like you
12:21
have to isolate and no one will
12:23
ever understand why you don't always have
12:25
to feel like that. You can give
12:27
people in your life a chance or
12:29
you can go find other communities to
12:32
be a part of as they say
12:34
no and supports you quite as hard
12:36
as a stranger on. The internet
12:38
and the resilience and coping skills
12:40
of your community influences you're coping
12:43
to. This is why Silver communities
12:45
are so critical because we learn
12:47
from the wisdom of the group
12:50
and we see examples of people
12:52
using healthy coping skills. And being
12:54
resilient, I see this all the
12:56
time. In my community where people
12:58
are trying to learn coping skills
13:00
and they learn from other people
13:03
in the group and the find
13:05
a new tool that helps. I'm
13:07
not drink, I always felt like
13:09
I had to keep everything to
13:11
myself, that people would never understand
13:13
me and that I should be
13:15
strong enough to handle it alone.
13:17
But when I was finally committed
13:19
to giving up drinking, that's when
13:21
I really began reaching out and
13:23
looking for support. Analyzing my own
13:25
experience, I would. Say, my resistance to
13:27
getting support was partly because I was
13:30
still trying to protect my drinking. I
13:32
dabbled in support and I was a
13:34
member of some online groups, but I
13:37
didn't support elders. I just showed up
13:39
when I needed a little boost because
13:41
I had a bad night and then
13:43
I'd go back on my way. When
13:46
I really quit, I could let my
13:48
drinking out into the light and show
13:50
at other people and be there for
13:52
them. I integrated into my support systems.
13:55
I started caring for others. And being
13:57
there for them to just getting more
13:59
support. Even only enough though
14:01
the cuter Than Nineteen review
14:04
published an addiction. Area studies
14:06
are people with alcohol use
14:08
disorder and people who are
14:10
high rask but never to
14:12
help an addiction and found
14:14
that when drinkers get sober
14:16
and more resilient, lose who
14:18
stay sober are able to
14:20
recruit more areas of the
14:22
brain. Recruiting more parts on
14:24
their brain allows you to
14:26
control your impulses, regulate emotions,
14:28
and refrain. This is an
14:30
idea that I'm working on
14:32
right now. Addiction simplifies the
14:34
brain. And we need to
14:37
make our brains more complex in
14:39
recovery. so stay tuned for more
14:41
episodes on that studies. and drinkers
14:43
who stay sober vs. Relapse Earth
14:45
have found that when presented with
14:47
an alcohol que no one should
14:49
stay sober have increased brain reactivity
14:52
to the queue in the higher
14:54
order thinking areas of the brain.
14:56
not like increased activity in the
14:58
reward system. they recruit more areas
15:00
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15:02
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