0:34

Hey, everybody,

0:34

welcome to the show. This is

0:37

unfinished, and my name is Donna

0:37

Marsh. I'm going to be hanging

0:40

out with you for a little bit

0:40

here. And today's episode, I

0:43

decided to talk about medicine,

0:43

Big Pharma. And the reason for

0:49

that is, you know, I mean, we've

0:49

all had, at some point or

0:53

another, had an opportunity or a

0:53

reason to take medicine take

0:58

some sort of a drug over the

0:58

counter, or prescription

1:02

medication of some sort, you

1:02

know, that's very common,

1:06

obviously. And something that

1:06

I'm sure most of us are quite

1:10

grateful for. We've made

1:10

incredible strides over the last

1:14

couple of centuries in medicine

1:14

and technology to help us deal

1:20

with our ailments. And in

1:20

medicine can be a life saving

1:25

tool. But in my experience,

1:25

especially as a holistic health

1:30

coach and wellness practitioner,

1:30

I find that prescription drugs

1:36

particularly seem to be at the

1:36

forefront of medical treatment.

1:44

You know, you go to the doctor,

1:44

and what's the first thing they

1:47

do is spend two minutes with

1:47

you, and then they write you a

1:49

prescription for something, it's

1:49

become the

1:52

norm. And it's like,

1:55

prescription

1:55

medicine is become our first

1:58

line of defense against disease

1:58

and, and an illness instead of

2:07

our first line of defense being

2:07

a focus on health and wellness

2:11

and healthy diet and lifestyle.

2:11

I mean, I don't really watch TV,

2:15

I have a smart TV, and sometimes

2:15

we put on our like a smart TV or

2:19

watch Hulu or do whatever and,

2:19

and even in those kinds of

2:22

channels or whatever. And

2:22

definitely on regular TV. It's

2:26

crazy. The amount of

2:26

prescription medicine

2:32

advertisements in commercials

2:32

that come on. It's crazy. And we

2:37

laugh, don't we? We laugh

2:37

because usually they come with a

2:41

long list of side effects that I

2:41

mean, if you ask me, half the

2:47

side effects are worse than the

2:47

actual thing that the medicines

2:50

trying to treat anyway, but it's

2:50

just, it's crazy. We laugh about

2:54

it, but then we we take the

2:54

medicine anyway. We still take

2:59

it, we we pop so many pills,

2:59

it's insane. It's like, you

3:04

know, there's a pill for

3:04

everything. I mean, it's really

3:07

gotten to a point where it's

3:07

drug abuse. And it's, you know,

3:11

not in the typical sense that

3:11

you would think about someone

3:15

using drugs. You know, you think

3:15

about drug abuse, you think

3:19

about illegal drugs. First, you

3:19

think about someone who's just

3:23

kind of out of their head and

3:23

can't really function or

3:26

whatever, or they're robbing and

3:26

stealing and living on the

3:30

street because they're all

3:30

strung out and whatnot.

3:32

But you know what? Drug

3:32

Abuse is not just that

3:38

I work with people

3:38

all the time, and I never have I

3:42

have never had a

3:43

client?

3:45

Well, no, I can't

3:45

say that I have had one client

3:48

ever. One client who did not

3:48

have at least one prescription

3:54

medication that they were taking

3:54

the majority are have a laundry

4:00

list. This like cocktail of

4:00

medicine that they take. I take

4:07

you know this for this. And I

4:07

take that one for that. And I

4:09

have to take this for that. And

4:09

oh my goodness gracious. It's

4:13

mind blowing to me. Why

4:13

is that? Well, you know what Big

4:19

Pharma funds,

4:22

or hospitals, or

4:22

doctors or medical schools, they

4:27

partner with our insurance

4:27

companies. They've got their

4:31

hands in frickin everything,

4:31

everything.

4:36

In fact,

4:37

there there are

4:37

multi million dollar endowments

4:44

that are paid out regularly 10s

4:44

of millions of dollars. In fact,

4:49

there is and I'll tell you what,

4:49

I will post a link. I might post

4:54

several links, actually, because

4:54

there's a lot of great articles

4:56

and videos and stuff that that

4:56

are out there. If you want to do

5:02

some research and you want to

5:02

learn. There's a lot of great

5:05

information out there. A couple

5:05

of folks based out of Canada,

5:10

Andrew Russell and Karen

5:10

Lieberman back in 2019. They did

5:14

a fantastic four part

5:14

investigative Story series that

5:21

took a very in depth look at the

5:21

pharmaceutical industry and what

5:29

they call the hold it has on

5:29

Canada's Health Care System.

5:33

They are uncovered a $151

5:33

million that were paid by big

5:44

pharma companies, to doctors and

5:44

hospitals over a two year period

5:50

in 2017, and 2018. And they

5:50

can't seem to find where that

5:57

money's gone. They can't train.

5:57

It's like the trail ends at a

6:01

certain point. It's really

6:01

interesting. In fact, I'm going

6:05

to play you a little clip here,

6:05

and I'm going to let you listen

6:10

to a little snippet of audio

6:10

from one of their videos. Diego.

6:16

Brad died

6:17

almost four years ago

6:17

now in 2015. Lee Chapman's

6:21

brother was 43 He died of a

6:21

suspected fentanyl overdose. His

6:26

journey actually began with a

6:26

prescribed dose of MS content at

6:31

the time, he had a back injury,

6:31

and eventually was diagnosed

6:36

with a brain tumor. For Brad who

6:36

was in constant pain. The

6:40

prescription began the path of

6:40

no return. I think he eventually

6:44

kind of sought a quicker acting.

6:44

The father of three is one of

6:47

the many faces of Canada's

6:47

opioid crisis

6:51

1000s of lives in Canada

6:51

hundreds of 1000s of lives in

6:53

the US happening simultaneously.

6:53

And I think disclosure would

6:59

have at least been one first

6:59

start to always be able to

7:01

understand what's happening. Unlike our neighbor to the south

7:03

and many European countries

7:06

Canada has no legislation

7:06

compelling drug companies to

7:09

reveal payments to physicians

7:09

and hospitals. Dr. Andrew

7:13

Bizzarri, the leader of open

7:13

pharma says transparency would

7:16

ensure appropriate prescribing I do think we're in an age in

7:18

2019, where patients really want

7:22

to have access to data and records last year 10 drug companies paid

7:24

$76.4 million to healthcare

7:29

providers and organizations up

7:29

from 74 point 9 million the year

7:34

before. That's $151 million in

7:34

two years. But we don't know who

7:40

received what and why I would probably characterize it

7:41

as the tip of the iceberg. This

7:45

assistant professor at the University of

7:46

Toronto's faculty of nursing

7:49

studies corporate influence on

7:49

health she points to the

7:52

physician payments Sunshine Act

7:52

in the US, which requires

7:55

medical product manufacturers to

7:55

disclose payments or other

7:58

transfers of value made to

7:58

physicians or teaching

8:01

hospitals, payments and gifts that cost as

8:02

little as $20 actually are

8:06

associated with higher levels of

8:06

prescribing

8:09

transparency laws, she says

8:09

could have helped officials

8:11

better track the prescribing of

8:11

highly addictive painkillers and

8:16

the interactions between drug

8:16

companies like Purdue pharma and

8:19

the healthcare sector. Purdue

8:19

pharma a company alleged in

8:23

lawsuits to have played a role

8:23

in the opioid crisis by

8:26

misrepresenting the

8:26

effectiveness and safety of

8:29

OxyContin gave just under $2

8:29

million last year to health care

8:33

professionals in Canada, but did

8:33

not specify details. It denies

8:38

the allegations sing it marketed

8:38

its products in accordance with

8:41

Canadian laws and guidelines and

8:41

its labels for opioids carried

8:45

warnings. Ontario's former

8:45

Liberal government passed

8:48

transparency legislation in

8:48

2017, the first of its kind in

8:52

the country. Last fall, the Ford

8:52

government put a halt to it. B C

8:56

considered similar legislation

8:56

but has not yet committed

9:00

we're not even have this

9:00

information. This may not be the

9:02

last time that any sort of drug

9:02

company or you know industry can

9:07

start to essentially hijack

9:07

prescribing patterns

9:10

for Lee Chapman's older brother

9:10

Brad it started in part with a

9:14

prescription for pain, followed

9:14

by a lack of services to help

9:17

him through his struggles, he

9:17

would have been still here with

9:20

us and I think contributing to

9:20

society in a really meaningful

9:23

way. To cure in any sense, other

9:24

pharmaceutical companies will

9:27

follow suit. So there is certainly hope. But

9:29

at this point, it's been a few

9:32

years since the 10 largest

9:32

pharmaceutical companies

9:35

voluntarily released the

9:35

information about how much they

9:38

give and unfortunately, no one

9:38

has followed suit. It isn't the

9:41

law so they simply don't have

9:41

to. But the experts we spoke to

9:45

say there is value in knowing so

9:45

we will have to wait and see for

9:49

our fourth and final story in

9:49

the series about the

9:52

pharmaceutical industry and the

9:52

hold it has on Canada's Health

9:54

Care System. Please go to our

9:54

website anytime global news.ca

9:59

You can also take a look at our

9:59

three previous stories there

10:02

FARA, certainly an eye opening series

10:02

and one to watch out for thanks

10:05

so much for that. Thank you.

10:07

So very interesting

10:07

stuff. The people that I talk to

10:11

my clients and others most

10:11

people believe that they need

10:16

the drugs that they are

10:16

prescribed because they trust

10:20

the people who are prescribing

10:20

them. And they are scared to

10:24

death to not take them they are

10:24

so afraid of the diagnoses, the

10:32

labels the disorders, the

10:32

illnesses that they've been

10:37

stamped with, and what those

10:37

things mean that they're more

10:42

afraid of those things than they

10:42

are the chemical cocktails that

10:48

they're dumping into their

10:48

bodies. So I find this very

10:53

interesting. And I've done some

10:53

research and but part of that

10:58

research was, I looked at the

10:58

10, most prescribed drugs in the

11:06

United States in 2021. Now, I'm

11:06

not going to list them for you,

11:11

as I'm talking to you now, here

11:11

on the show, but I am gonna,

11:14

I'll pop them in the show notes.

11:14

But what what's very interesting

11:19

about those most prescribed

11:19

drugs in our country are that

11:25

three of them were for high

11:25

blood pressure. And if you

11:30

recall from possibly from an

11:30

earlier episode, or maybe you

11:33

just know that heart disease is

11:33

the number one killer in the

11:39

United States. And it has been

11:39

for a very long time, high blood

11:43

pressure is a big part of that,

11:43

right? It's about how

11:46

efficiently your heart is

11:46

pumping blood throughout your

11:51

body. So three of the top 10

11:51

drugs prescribed in our country

11:58

are treating high blood

11:58

pressure, seven of the top 10,

12:03

including those three that treat

12:03

high blood pressure, or treating

12:07

symptoms that are quite

12:07

manageable with diet and

12:13

lifestyle. Two of those

12:17

are highly

12:18

addictive. And one

12:18

of those two that are highly

12:21

addictive actually contain a

12:21

barbiturate. So the clip, the

12:28

audio clip that I just played

12:28

for you, I was talking about a

12:32

gentleman who had gone through

12:32

addiction, he's gone, he had

12:38

surgery or whatever, he had been

12:38

prescribed these drugs, and he

12:42

became addicted. And that's easy

12:42

to do. And it happens all the

12:45

time. Our society is rife with

12:45

prescription addiction and

12:50

opiates. The opiate crisis is a

12:50

thing. It's no joke, we're

12:56

talking about this affects

12:56

professional, otherwise healthy,

13:01

happy, educated, well, meaning

13:01

good people.

13:09

This guy that

13:09

was in you know, they were talking about in that clip, he was a he's a

13:11

professional, white collar dude,

13:15

when he was married, and I had

13:15

three young children and it was

13:19

awful. I have lost friends as a

13:19

result of the opioid crisis. And

13:27

I, you know, know, very good

13:27

good friends who, who have

13:33

battled addiction to opiates and

13:33

OxyContin and all of those

13:40

things. So it's a it's an issue.

13:40

So uh, so aside from the abuse

13:47

factor, the the addiction

13:47

factor, let's get back to the

13:51

the crux of the issue. Okay. So

13:51

that's the issue is that Big

13:57

Pharma has bought off the

13:57

majority of our medical

14:02

providers, and the educational

14:02

institutions and hospitals where

14:08

they are educated and work. It's

14:08

all about money all about money.

14:17

And if the the crazy, long lists

14:17

of potentially serious side

14:25

effects of these drugs

14:28

aren't enough to tell

14:28

you that, to prove that it's all

14:34

about money, then perhaps

14:34

looking

14:39

deeper into the

14:39

where the money is going, you

14:43

know, follow the money, I always

14:43

say follow the money, like in

14:47

this investigative story, $151

14:47

million in two years, and they

14:53

can't quite figure out where

14:53

it's all gone. If it's not

14:57

transparent, that that that that

14:57

kind of money is is being put

15:01

into people's pockets that Big

15:01

Pharma is

15:04

buying people

15:09

at the expense of

15:09

other people? I don't I don't

15:12

know. I mean, it's so

15:12

transparent. I'm going to tell

15:16

you a story.

15:17

I've told the story so many times.

15:20

Years ago, I had a

15:20

fainting episode, and that

15:24

fainting episode led me to go to

15:24

the emergency room of a local

15:29

hospital and get checked out and

15:29

during the course of that

15:32

process, Have them trying to

15:32

figure out why I fainted, I had

15:37

to go for a CT scan, and MRI

15:37

whenever to see the they

15:43

suspected that I had some sort

15:43

of a rare disease. They're all

15:46

excited, actually, who might

15:46

have all these teams of doctors

15:49

came in, and it was kind of

15:49

crazy who she might have this.

15:51

And they were all excited

15:51

because they were going to get

15:54

to study because it was a rare

15:54

thing. And they didn't often get

15:57

to, you know, play with it. So

15:57

during the course of this

16:00

treatment, they they did this

16:00

thing to see if my blood flow

16:04

was okay, and make sure that,

16:04

you know, my blood was I was

16:06

getting blood to my brain. And

16:06

it turns out, I, I didn't have

16:11

this rare disorder. And they

16:11

couldn't figure out why I

16:14

fainted. But what they did find

16:14

out was that my thyroid gland

16:18

was very inflamed on one side.

16:18

And so I went to have some

16:22

tests, and have some further, I

16:22

had some blood work done and

16:26

further images taken and

16:26

different things. And I went to

16:30

this team of endocrinologist,

16:30

this big team of people in

16:35

upstate New York, and trying to

16:35

figure out what was going on.

16:39

The the head physician of that

16:39

team ended up she prescribed me

16:45

a synthetic hormone, because my

16:45

T levels, my my thyroid

16:51

hormones, were all out of whack,

16:51

right? So in an attempt to get

16:56

them, you know, to go back to

16:56

normal, she prescribed me this

17:01

synthetic hormone. So I took the

17:01

prescription along with her

17:06

direction to, you know, go get a

17:06

biopsy done and all these

17:10

things. And I was told by this

17:10

team of endocrinologist that it

17:16

was likely I was going to have

17:16

to be, I was going to have to

17:19

have surgery, it was there was a

17:19

good chance that I had thyroid

17:24

cancer. That was what they

17:24

suspected. They were very

17:27

concerned. Those are their

17:27

words, were very concerned. You

17:30

know, when I asked questions and

17:30

stuff, and they said, Well, you

17:33

know, if that's the case, then

17:33

we'll have surgery, remove your

17:36

thyroid, and you will likely you

17:36

will, you'll have to be on, you

17:42

know, a synthetic hormone for

17:42

the rest of your life. Okay,

17:46

well, I took all of that

17:46

information and put that

17:49

prescription in my handbag, and

17:49

I went home and I thought, you

17:53

know, I don't want to have

17:53

surgery. I'm not going to just

17:56

take the word of these people, I

17:56

need to learn more. And so I

18:03

began to research cycroid,

18:03

cancer, thyroid function, how my

18:09

diet and lifestyle choices were

18:09

affecting, said functions. And I

18:15

made some changes. I learned

18:15

everything that I could possibly

18:19

learn about sigh, roid, and

18:19

hormones and all of the

18:25

different supporting functions

18:25

in my body and what they do and

18:28

all of that. Fast forward a few

18:28

months later, I go back for my

18:31

follow up, and I have my blood

18:31

work done, again to retest and

18:37

all that stuff. And so I'm

18:37

having a conversation with the

18:39

doctor. And she begins to

18:39

shouldn't say a whole lot, she.

18:47

She says, I'm going to give you

18:47

a prescription, I'm going to

18:52

give you a refill prescription

18:52

for the Synthroid that I

18:56

prescribed you last time because

18:56

it's clearly working, your

18:59

levels are almost perfect.

18:59

Everything's looking really

19:03

good. Right? She felt around in

19:03

my my throat, all that stuff and

19:09

my thyroid didn't feel quite

19:09

large and all of that stuff. And

19:13

and I said, Thank you, but no

19:13

thank you. And I showed her the

19:20

prescription that was still in

19:20

my bag that she had given me the

19:25

last time and said I never had

19:25

filled. I never took the

19:29

Synthroid, I never took your

19:29

drugs. I changed my eating

19:33

habits. I changed my lifestyle a

19:33

little bit. I'm doing things a

19:36

little different. I educated

19:36

myself. And that's why my

19:41

thyroid is now functioning

19:41

optimally, not because of the

19:46

drugs that you said I needed.

19:46

And she kind of didn't really

19:50

know what to do her response.

19:50

This was her response. I'm going

19:53

to give you the prescription

19:53

anyway, just in case.

19:57

She She didn't know what to say.

20:00

She didn't have it

20:00

was like she couldn't wrap her

20:04

head around that I didn't take

20:04

the drugs.

20:09

It was bizarre.

20:11

I learned a lot

20:11

that day. And I'll tell you

20:14

what, my thyroid has been

20:14

healthy ever since. I've never

20:19

taken drugs for it. And in fact,

20:19

I've helped other people to

20:25

regulate their own hormone

20:25

levels and thyroid function. So

20:31

the fact that so many people are

20:31

taking these cocktails of drugs.

20:39

And so many of my clients come

20:39

to me with these long laundry

20:43

lists of drugs that they're

20:43

taking, because they feel they

20:47

have to is it's absurd to me.

20:47

And it's sad, and it angers me

20:54

because people, they don't know

20:54

what they don't know, they trust

20:57

these, these doctors who are

21:00

telling them that they

21:00

need these drugs.

21:04

And people don't

21:04

want to believe that the people

21:07

that they're trusting to look

21:07

out for their own best interest

21:10

for their own well being or

21:10

they're not. And I know that

21:14

people that I work with, you

21:14

know, at least in the beginning,

21:18

they're more afraid of these

21:18

labels they've been given than

21:22

they are this toxic crap that

21:22

they're putting in their body.

21:27

They've never been

21:27

given tools

21:32

to develop healthy

21:32

habits or to identify what

21:35

healthy looks like

21:37

for them.

21:38

Because healthy

21:38

looks a little different for

21:41

each person. We are biodiverse

21:41

beings, there's, you know, there

21:45

are things that are similar with

21:45

each of us, obviously, at a

21:49

fundamental level, but we're all

21:49

a little bit different. And

21:53

what's a great diet for you

21:53

might not be a great diet for

21:57

me,

21:58

and vice versa.

22:00

That's why cookie

22:00

cutter diets don't work. That's

22:03

why, you know, some people go to

22:03

the gym and pump iron two hours

22:08

every day and they absolutely

22:08

love it and get ripped and other

22:11

people it's like, they'd rather

22:11

have a root canal with no

22:16

anesthesia, you know, then go to

22:16

the gym and work out my I love

22:21

going to the gym, I love

22:21

working, I love lifting weights,

22:23

I love the feeling I love the

22:23

high I get after my partner

22:27

hates it,

22:28

he absolutely hates it.

22:30

There's other

22:30

things he'll do to stay in shape

22:32

and stuff. But he hates that he

22:32

doesn't like it doesn't like

22:35

being at the gym, he doesn't

22:35

like any of

22:37

it. I love it all. And

22:37

that's okay. You know,

22:42

everybody's different. But uh,

22:42

the right foods, the right

22:46

movements.

22:49

The way to handle

22:49

interpersonal relationships,

22:53

body, mind, heart, and spirit

22:53

are all things that need to work

23:00

together to heatedly for, for us

23:00

to be truly healthy. We're not

23:06

told by our doctors how to

23:06

handle our emotional triggers.

23:12

We're not taught how to dig

23:13

deep in to that, too,

23:18

to uncover our core

23:18

beliefs, we're not shown how to

23:22

stop overthinking. We're not

23:22

shown how to be present, and how

23:28

to make good choices for

23:28

ourselves. And to face the

23:35

things that are challenging, we

23:35

what we're given is a little

23:39

piece of paper that says, Take

23:39

two of these and call me in the

23:43

morning. It's not right folks,

23:43

it's really not. And the good

23:48

thing about it, though, is that

23:48

we all have a choice in that you

23:53

are so much more powerful

23:56

than you think.

23:57

And I think most of

23:57

most people just have no

24:01

idea how powerful they

24:05

are, and Big Pharma

24:05

and medicine and prescription

24:08

drugs and all of that. It's it's

24:08

just, that's like one small area

24:15

that we can really, really

24:15

improve one obvious area at a

24:21

fundamental level where we can

24:21

make different choices, and

24:26

really empower ourselves because

24:26

we're handing our power over to

24:30

little little pills. We're

24:30

handing our power over to people

24:34

who give them to us. And those

24:34

people do not have our best

24:37

interests at heart at all. What

24:37

they have is a need to buy

24:45

another car and have a bigger

24:45

house and pay for their kids

24:48

college or pay off their own

24:48

student loans or whatever.

24:52

That's what they're thinking about.

24:55

It's money, money

24:57

is a corruptor it

24:57

really is

25:01

for some

25:04

and unfortunately

25:04

it It influences what our

25:08

medical providers and

25:11

educators do and how

25:11

they treat us. And we need to

25:18

empower ourselves

25:18

to think for ourselves to learn

25:23

to educate ourselves like I did.

25:23

I would have had my thyroid

25:28

removed and had to be on

25:28

medicine for the rest of my life

25:32

had I just taken What those

25:32

doctors told me at face value

25:40

and not had the presence of mind

25:40

to look further into it, I would

25:46

have just my life would be much

25:46

different than it is. But I

25:54

empowered myself to make

25:54

different choices, I gave myself

26:00

credit, to figure out my own

26:00

body, and to listen to my own

26:06

intuition. And not to that of

26:06

someone who was churning out

26:12

patient after patient after

26:12

patient after patient after

26:14

patient and who had been

26:14

educated by an institution that

26:20

A equals B. A is symptoms, b

26:20

equals prescription. A is

26:27

symptoms, C is surgery, that's

26:27

not okay. That's not okay, we

26:31

deserve better, we should demand

26:31

better. And until we get better,

26:38

we need to empower ourselves, we

26:38

need to do more for ourselves to

26:42

ask questions. Again, going back

26:42

to the tools, you know, most

26:48

people have not ever been given

26:48

the tools to develop healthy

26:54

habits, right. And in most of

26:54

most people don't even know

26:58

what's right for them. Some of

26:58

the people that come to me have

27:03

lousy diets when they first

27:03

come. And they think they're

27:06

doing the right things, but they

27:06

just have never been given the

27:10

tools to determine what those

27:10

right things are. And they just

27:13

go by what's in magazines, or

27:13

what's on the news and what they

27:17

see on social media or whatever.

27:17

And, you know, they read

27:22

different fat books about

27:22

whatever different types of

27:24

diets and whatnot, and they try

27:24

to figure it out for themselves.

27:27

And that's great. But they

27:27

actually just really don't know

27:30

what they're doing. They've

27:30

never found the right exercise

27:33

or movement, that's less

27:33

something they believe they

27:37

should do, and more something

27:37

they actually an activity they

27:40

actually enjoy

27:41

doing. It's less about

27:41

shoulds. And more about joy.

27:49

They've never been

27:49

given the tools to move beyond

27:51

the mental and emotional

27:51

triggers and the habits that

27:55

cause them to feel anxious or

27:55

depressed, to lack motivation to

27:59

feel overwhelmed. And to get to

27:59

the point of believing that

28:03

there's something wrong with

28:03

them, that justifies their

28:06

dependence on a drug or drugs

28:06

just to function in a healthy,

28:10

happy, natural, vibrant human

28:10

way.

28:15

I mean, you know,

28:15

medicine

28:17

has its place it I

28:17

will always continuously say

28:21

that I'm not saying that medicine does not have its place, it most certainly does.

28:23

It can be a life saving

28:26

thing. But we are far,

28:30

far too dependent

28:30

on it, we are too dependent on

28:33

prescription drugs, especially.

28:33

And we need to learn to think

28:39

for ourselves, what happens is

28:39

people will say, you know, the

28:43

say, Well, you don't understand

28:43

I've always been this way, or

28:45

it's just how I am or this thing

28:45

happened to me. And so now I'm

28:49

broken.

28:51

It's not as easy as you think.

28:53

Or Yeah, but I'm at

28:53

least I'm not, you know, dealing

28:57

with the symptoms.

28:59

At least I'm not still

29:02

dealing with whatever other thing I was dealing with before I took the

29:04

drugs. Even though now I have,

29:09

you know, six other things that

29:09

I'm dealing with as a result of

29:12

the drugs. We've learned all of

29:12

these defense mechanisms.

29:17

And we take the advice

29:20

of our physicians

29:20

and people professionals who we

29:24

trust.

29:25

And if you have found

29:25

yourself

29:29

saying similar

29:29

things, or you're kind of

29:31

thinking the same thing, what

29:31

are you not alone, it's it's so

29:34

common. But once we realize how

29:34

much power we have, we can begin

29:42

this process of change. Because

29:42

once you know what the reasoning

29:47

behind your choices is, and that

29:47

you've learned to lean on

29:54

beliefs. You know, it's just

29:54

it's what you've been taught,

29:58

it's what you've been

29:58

conditioned with. Once you

30:03

realize that, you realize that

30:03

the labels and the solutions and

30:10

I use that term loosely, are not

30:10

necessarily correct. They're not

30:17

necessarily accurate and they

30:17

definitely do not dictate who

30:22

you are. And once you recognize

30:22

that, you can start to make

30:27

small little changes start to

30:27

move beyond your diagnosis your

30:33

disorder. you label your crutch.

30:33

And that process will be as hard

30:39

or as easy as you make it. And

30:39

if some parts of it are extra

30:45

challenging, then that just

30:45

means that you need to focus in

30:47

on those parts. Because those

30:47

parts are where you have the

30:50

most healing to do, whatever

30:50

that might be for you. What we

30:55

all need to know what we all

30:55

need to remember

30:59

is that we've got this,

30:59

you know, you've got

31:04

this and trusting

31:04

ourselves in the process of

31:07

healing and moving beyond our

31:07

beliefs, our reliance on drugs,

31:16

or other people, or what society

31:16

says we should

31:20

be or do or feel,

31:23

are so much bigger

31:23

than that we're so much more

31:26

powerful than these greedy

31:26

corporations will have us

31:29

believe we are. And I'm proof of

31:29

that.

31:34

And that's what this

31:35

all boils down to,

31:35

we're all so much more than any

31:38

label or diagnosis or situation,

31:38

we may have found ourselves in,

31:44

we are divine individual pieces

31:44

of the cosmos, my friends, we

31:48

are so powerful.

31:52

And I'm not saying

31:53

to suddenly stop taking your medicine, because that would be irresponsible. And

31:55

that can be dangerous. What I am

31:58

saying is, investigate what your

31:58

options are, you know, working

32:04

with a holistic wellness coach,

32:04

like me, I mean, that can help.

32:09

If you'd like to explore that,

32:09

by all means reach out, it,

32:12

maybe it's me, maybe it's

32:12

somebody else. But it can be

32:17

highly effective, can be a great

32:17

way to discover and break

32:20

through your own personal

32:20

limiting behaviors and your

32:25

beliefs and really create a life

32:25

that truly honors your physical,

32:31

your mental, your emotional and

32:31

your spiritual well being. And

32:34

that might be, like I said, work

32:34

with me, it might be with

32:37

somebody else, it might just be

32:37

introspection that you

32:40

do. Add, sometimes it's

32:40

like a light switch, boom,

32:45

you'll just suddenly get it,

32:48

you can always go

32:48

to empowered humans.org. To

32:50

learn more, of course, and to

32:50

purchase my book, if you that

32:53

could be helpful, too. And

32:53

that's why the book was written.

32:57

I don't want to turn this into a

32:57

some sort of a sales pitch or

32:59

whatever. It's not what I'm

32:59

trying to do. I'm just really

33:02

passionate about this. And this

33:02

is my life. I, I've told you one

33:07

story, there's many more about

33:07

me and the people that I care

33:10

about. And I've worked with a

33:10

lot of different people. And

33:12

I've seen just some

33:12

extraordinary results. I've said

33:18

this in other episodes, I've

33:18

mentioned it in my book that

33:21

we're I really believe that we

33:21

are at a point on this planet.

33:26

We're like at this turning

33:26

point. And it's I believe that

33:29

it's time for us to really step

33:32

into our power.

33:35

And I There have

33:35

been so many signs lately. And I

33:40

don't mean that in a woowoo kind

33:40

of way. I mean, just everyday

33:44

things are showing us that there

33:44

are people in places of power,

33:51

that do not have our best

33:51

interests in mind, who are

33:56

greedy and power hungry. And

33:56

they will, to our detriment make

34:04

decisions that will gain them

34:04

more power and wealth. If the

34:10

war that's happening between the

34:10

Russia and Ukraine is not

34:13

evidence of that if our current

34:13

situation is not evidence of

34:19

that. If a bit the big pharma

34:19

issue is not evidence of that,

34:25

then my god we I don't what

34:25

other evidence do we need the

34:29

whole Rona thing?

34:32

I mean, look at how

34:32

different our world looks.

34:36

There is clearly a

34:36

narrative. There are puppet

34:42

strings being manipulated, we

34:42

are being manipulated. Our media

34:48

we can't even look at our media

34:48

is just it's farcical. We need

34:54

to rely on ourselves. We need to

34:54

have resources where we can get

35:01

information and be more self

35:01

sustaining, to be more

35:07

independent to lift each other

35:07

up to help each other because

35:13

government, Big Pharma,

35:13

big tech,

35:18

they're not going

35:18

to help us they're not when we

35:21

need it. We have to help each

35:21

other. And I think I don't say

35:26

that in a like a negative way. I

35:26

say that in a way that I truly

35:33

believe that all of these Things

35:33

are coming to the forefront

35:35

right now. They're becoming

35:35

obvious, because they need to be

35:40

because when it's been subtle,

35:40

it's people it's too easy to

35:44

look away. It's too easy to not

35:44

believe it. But when it's

35:47

obvious, you can't not see it.

35:47

It's a nudge for us to step up.

35:55

It's a nudge for us to love.

35:55

Better. It's a nudge for us to

36:01

be more compassionate humans. It

36:01

is a nudge for us to reestablish

36:09

our sovereign a place in the

36:09

universe. We need to think

36:16

bigger, we are bigger. And we

36:16

need to realize that and accept

36:20

that. Well, I've I think I've

36:20

babbled on long enough here. I

36:26

hope I've given you something to

36:26

consider. I hope I've inspired

36:30

you maybe to look deeper into

36:30

this. There are a lot of layers

36:35

here.

36:36

And we talk

36:38

about Big Pharma, we talk about medicine and corporate greed and we start to

36:40

go down this rabbit hole and

36:43

there are so many different

36:43

layers to be peeled back, and so

36:46

many different directions to run

36:46

in. I think it's time that more

36:51

of us find the courage to jump

36:51

down those rabbit holes, and to

36:54

really ask ourselves the

36:54

difficult questions and to be

36:58

really, really honest with

36:58

ourselves, because we know when

37:03

we're not being honest with

37:03

ourselves, don't we? We do. And

37:07

it's a choice every moment of

37:07

every day offers you a choice,

37:12

all of us. So choose wisely.

37:12

Friends, choose wisely. Honor

37:16

yourselves, honor each other.

37:16

And remember to find gratitude

37:22

in every day. And if you want

37:22

help in any of that I am here

37:28

for you. You are loved and

37:28

appreciated. And I thank you so

37:36

very much for listening. Take

37:36

care. I'll see you next time.